Reddit reviews A Framework for Understanding Poverty

Have you met many people living in poverty? Self-control is not a characteristic you would find in many of those families. Lack of self-control is a major contributor to why some of those people live in poverty. Let me be clear that it's not the only reason people live in poverty.

You also don't seem to have a grasp on how generational poverty works... If the parents live in poverty, there is a very high likelihood that their children will also live in poverty when they are adults. It's a cycle, and in many, many, many cases the only thing that breaks that cycle is external influences. Many of these outside influences are directly tied to education.

It's more expensive for you and I, in the long run, to pay for someones "fuck ups", and then their children's "fuck ups", and then their children's "fuck ups" because we never helped break that cycle. It's more cost effective to direct resources to help that initial child break the chains.

A really eye opening book that explains this in greater detail is A Framework for Understanding Poverty by Ruby Payne. I used to believe the same things you have been posting, until I really looked into the deeper issues of poverty. It's not as cut and dry as it seems like it would be.

https://www.amazon.com/Framework-Understanding-Poverty-Ruby-Payne/dp/1929229143

Generalizations supported in state curriculum:

Nazis were bad.
Holocaust was horrific.
British colonial rule was oppressive.
The United States had no choice but to enter WW1.
Vietnam was a just war.
The Cold War was a necessity, because...
The Soviet Union was evil.
American Slave Trade was wrong and immoral.
The Southern States were incorrect to leave the Union.
The Southern States were slave-supporting states.
The Northern States were against slavery.


The list goes on and on. Generalizations are not bad when they are rooted in overwhelming fact. If generalizations make teachers bad, then what do generalizations in the curriculum we teach make us?

And now you're going to have to box your way out of this corner. Don't tell me: all those generalizations are rooted in fact and mine is not. I can already hear your keys buzzing away. The problem is...you do not teach where I do and thus cannot know what I know--so you may only form conjecture as to how accurate my assessment is knowing nothing about it. It is an impossible situation but you will try nonetheless.

Anyways...expert, there is a problem in schools with the standards for accepting FRL population and assessing its accuracy. Period. You can argue that, but I'd like to see some data supporting it. I'll provide you a link to my data in an edit in 2 seconds.

EDIT: http://www.usda.gov/oig/webdocs/FWA%207-7-03.pdf and http://www.johnlocke.org/acrobat/cjPrintEdition/cj-july2008-web.pdf

EDIT 2: Also, if you want to become a teacher I recommend picking up this book by Dr. Ruby Payne: http://www.amazon.com/Framework-Understanding-Poverty-Ruby-Payne/dp/1929229143 It is essential in understanding poverty and its impact on the students you will teach. Just a helpful recommendation.