Reddit reviews Actiontec MOCA Adapter for Ethernet Over Coax, 1 Gbps Bonded 2.0 MoCA Adapter (ECB6200S02),Black,9.2" x 3" x 6.5"

FiOS uses a device called an ONT (Optical Network Terminal) that translates the incoming fiber optic signal to internet, cable TV, and phone signals that your devices can understand. It's essentially the modem. This is the "OCN" you're referring to. It has an Ethernet port, a Coaxial cable port, and two phone ports.

The internet signal can be delivered over either the Ethernet or Coaxial cable port, but any speed of 100/100 and up requires Ethernet so we don't need to even talk about using Coax for it. When Ethernet is used for internet, the Coax port only carries the TV channels.

The Ethernet port on the ONT needs to be connected directly to the WAN/Internet port on the router. This doesn't have to be a Verizon router, it will work with any router. Obviously, for gigabit service you'll need a router with gigabit WAN and LAN ports, and that can actually do routing (remember, routing does not mean Wi-Fi) at gigabit speeds. I wasn't able to find any information on the Verizon router's routing throughput.

The best FiOS router is AC1750, which means one 2.4 GHz 450mbps stream and three 5 GHz 433mbps streams. The maximum theoretical speed of a device depends on how many streams it supports: 433mbps for 1 stream, 867mbps for 2 streams, 1300mbps for 3 streams. Very few devices support 3 streams, and in real-world conditions (particularly since 5 GHz is bad at going through walls) you can expect about half of the theoretical maximum speed. So, yes, you need an Ethernet connection to the router to get full gigabit speeds. The best way to make Wi-Fi work better is not to get a better and more expensive router, but to add additional APs so that you're always close to one and can get a good signal. APs, by definition, require an Ethernet connection to the router.

Using a non-Verizon router is dead simple when you only have internet, but with FiOS TV service it becomes more complex. FiOS cable boxes get their guide and VoD data through the internet, and like anything else they have to go through the router to access the internet. They do this with the MoCA protocol, which transmits data over coaxial cables. For this to work, the router must also support MoCA, have a Coaxial cable port, and have a Coaxial cable connection to the cable boxes. Only Verizon routers have this hardware built in. You're not out of luck, though. You can still use a non-Verizon router if you get the MoCA hardware separately. You just need to get a MoCA adapter, connect the coaxial cable that would otherwise be connected to the Verizon router to its Coax In port, and connect its Ethernet port to a LAN port on your router.

Hardwire to an access point will always be better than a mesh system.

I was in a similar predicatment to you...3,500 sqft house on one florr.

Do you have cable TV jacks throughout the house? If you do, check out MoCA devices (I Use These). They have Ethernet on one side, and RF jack on the other side. You may have to change out splitters (I Use These) with ones for increased bandwidth. When you connect MoCA devices, you connect them on the output ports (not the input)...also, you have to make sure that you don't have any RF amplifiers in the data as they will not pass data in both directions.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013J7OBUU works just fine as well.

Powerline didnt really work for me but what did work was use MoCA adaptors. If you have coaxial in the room with your router and your switch, you can get ethernet to your switch through coax. They are a bit expensive but if powerline doesnt work this definitely should.

Two of these would work fine:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B013J7OBUU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_AA8.BbJSV7HM0

Here's what I used

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B013J7OBUU/

I haven't done it myself, but my understanding is what you would do is set up the ubiquiti router as your main router connected to the Verizon ONT via ethernet. You would need a number of MOCA bridges to connect the ethernet from your ubiquiti router to your coax runs for the TV (here's an example MOCA bridge). I'd suggest having a separate switch to handle the MOCA bridges just to keep it all segregated (and potentially VLAN'd off). That should get you what you're after (but again, I have not personally done this nor have I really looked into it in great detail).

You can use any router with Verizon for internet, however if you also get TV through Verizon you either need to chain your preferred router to your Verizon router (and then you can just disable WIFI on the Verizon router), or you can get a MOCA 2.0 ethernet to coax adapter instead and solely use your custom router.

I should say, your TV will work without that but you won't have access to the guide or on demand options.

Check this thread on the Verizon forums for more information.

I bought my 2 story house brand new over 6 years ago and unfortunately did not choose to get it pre-wired with Ethernet so my options are pretty limited. The builder did however include a single Ethernet connection from the outside telecom box to my living room. With this I was able to connect the ONT to my Ubiquiti USG in the living room and get wifi through the house with the connected AC Lite. However I have a lot of ethernet connected gear in my office (computer, Microcell, NAS, etc) which is on the first floor but does not have an adjoining wall to the living room.

I use 2 of these to connect the office and living room and they are extremely reliable and allow my full 500/500 internet connection in my office:

https://www.amazon.com/Actiontec-Bonded-Ethernet-Adapter-ECB6200S02/dp/B013J7OBUU/ref=pd_sbs_147_t_1/131-2202447-9421808?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B013J7OBUU&pd_rd_r=702cd6af-d71d-4ff1-aa33-57999a4376db&pd_rd_w=ejaV9&pd_rd_wg=4PjmK&pf_rd_p=5cfcfe89-300f-47d2-b1ad-a4e27203a02a&pf_rd_r=VYPQB75ZWD8Z310D9WA7&psc=1&refRID=VYPQB75ZWD8Z310D9WA7

Just get an actiontec moca adapter. I used those for friends who don't use TiVo. I'm pretty sure the class 2 moca's are out.

Yup:
Actiontec Bonded MoCA 2.0 Ethernet to Coax Adapter (ECB6200S02) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B013J7OBUU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_7EfVzbF8KSJMP

Look into using a MoCA device like this

Actiontec Bonded MoCA 2.0 Ethernet to Coax Adapter (ECB6200S02) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B013J7OBUU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_CRaQzbDK7Q8JG

You will get far superior performance with MoCA over Powerline

>Is buying just an Actiontec-WBC6200Q02 a simple solution with my hardware?

No. You need something to be the "source" of the MoCA network, so you would need something like this: https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B013J7OBUU/ref=twister_B017XMNV2Q?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 to pair with the WCB6200Q.

Additionally, you may have a hiccup because MoCA and DOCSIS 3.1 (the technology that runs your cable modem) use the same frequency space. You can try to use the modem and MoCA adapters at the same time, but no guarantee that they will work because of the frequency issue. The way you'd get around this is to make sure that the cable you're using for the MoCA is isolated from the rest of the cable network.

https://www.amazon.com/Actiontec-Bonded-Ethernet-Adapter-ECB6200K02/dp/B013J7OBUU

Moca 2 adapters that will do 1gb/s are fairly expensive, you need 2 of them so a total of $140 per link. However, this approach plus a cheap access point will give you better coverage than having a single more expensive access point.

https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Unifi-Ap-AC-Lite-UAPACLITEUS/dp/B015PR20GY

Measure the strength of your wifi and your neighbors at various points around your house. You want to set your access points to channels with the least amount of interference, for the best performance.

If you have an android phone I recommend this app:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.farproc.wifi.analyzer

These if you have coax in both rooms, https://www.amazon.com/Actiontec-Bonded-Ethernet-Adapter-ECB6200S02/dp/B013J7OBUU/ref=dp_ob_title_ce

To follow-up I ordered an Actiontec MOCA (ECB6200S02) adapter and an Orbi RBK50 mesh system.

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My goal was to have the Orbi router in my office so it could cover that half of the house and then I'd put the satellite (with Ethernet backhaul) upstairs on the opposite side of the house to cover that side. My wiring cabinet is in the unfinished basement so putting the router down there is less than ideal.

I have two network drops in my office, let's call them "NA" and "NB". Down in the wiring cabinet I plugged the "NA" wire directly into the ONT's Ethernet port. Up in the office I connected the Orbi router's WAN port into that "NA" drop. Then I connect one of the switch ports on the Orbi router to connect into the "NB" drop, then down in the wiring cabinet put that "NB" wire into a 16-port unmanaged switch. Then all the other network cables for all the other rooms in the wiring cabinet would also go into that switch. This way everything that's wired would be behind the Orbi router.

In theory it makes sense (to me) and it should work but when I tried that the Orbi app said it didn't have a network cable connection.

(And before anyone asks - yes, both "NA" and "NB" drops in my office work. Up to this point I've had my Synology NAS on "NA" and a switch on "NB" for my computer and our network printer.)

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To get it up and running I ended up just putting the Orbi router in the basement and connecting the WAN port directly into the ONT. The setup detected a network cable connection and completed.

Within 20 minutes of having the Orbi setup and configured the router lost its internet connection twice. Once it fixed on its own after a few minutes and the second time I had to completely reboot the router. So this thing appears to be a piece of junk. From what I read online not all versions of the Orbi firmware support Ethernet backhaul and the latest firmware (v2.2.1.210) is completely broken and has been for months with no updates. So I manually updated the router to v2.1.4.16 (per this thread). That update went fine, then I updated the satellite and it the update never completed. Then the router lost its internet connection. At this point I just pulled it all out and went back to the FiOS router.

I guess I'm going to give the Orbi stuff another shot this weekend but I don't have high hopes.

The MOCA adapter seemed to do it's job just fine. When I had it connected my Guide, DVR and onDemand was all working on my STB. So at least there's that...

Any other recommendations for a mesh system? I have a 3000sqft house (with a 1500sqft unfinished basement) and I just need good WiFi on the main floor and for the upstairs bedrooms. I also really want Ethernet backhaul since I have a network drop in every room.

As much as I'd love to have Ubiquiti I didn't have the foresight to have the builder put network drops in the ceiling everywhere so without running a bunch of cables and cutting a bunch of holes in my brand new house that leaves me with their in-wall units and I'd need one in just about every room so that gets pricey quick...

Google WiFi seems to be decent and the price is right but I've read it drops connections a lot and just isn't that fast overall. It's cheap enough I can always just throw another puck in a room when I need more coverage.

Eero is rather expensive, I'm looking at $500 for their "pro" system.

Suggestions?

I literally got one of these from Amazon on Wednesday: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013J7OBUU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

My testing showed transferring a 40GB file in <10min, and fast.com more than maxed out my Comcast internet (100/10, gave me 110-120 down).

i was thinking of getting this router with this moca adapter and use this ethernet cord. I believe the coax outlets are all connected because i took the router from upstairs and plugged it into my coax and it worked perfect. As far as speeds i mostly want to be able to set up a wired connection to my computer for gaming and be able to connect my ps4 with a wired connection and all my other devices wireless.

Or this


https://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B013J7OBUU/ref=mp_s_a_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1484300077&sr=8-9&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=actiontec+coax+to+ethernet

If you could solve this mystery, it could worth MILLIONS of $$$. :) Seems to happen to many people, works for years, then won't work at all. New powerline adapters don't fix problem. Most give up and look for other solutions.

If you have coax cable from your TV/Cable provider , consider using Coax to deliver your ethernet via MoCA.

https://www.amazon.com/Actiontec-Bonded-Ethernet-Adapter-ECB6200S02/dp/B013J7OBUU

That’s what I went with too. Actiontec Bonded MoCA 2.0 Ethernet to Coax Adapter (ECB6200S02) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B013J7OBUU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_h9tcMwjJjHUbh

My setup is

Demarc -> MoCA adapter -> cable modem -> router -> switch.

On the MoCA adapter, coax in comes from the demarc. Coax out goes to the cable modem. And also on the MoCA adapter I have an Ethernet cable going to my switch, which is how the MoCA adapter is receiving the Ethernet signal. The signal then travels out the MoCA adapter back down the coax line to all of the coax running in my home. I then use the 2nd MoCA adapter at the place where I want to extend my Wireless AP and have it hard-wired in.

I also have a MoCA filter at the demarc so that no MoCA signal travels beyond my home.

All purchases from Amazon.

The fact that the ONT is far from your router leaves out running an ethernet cable from the ONT to your router. If you could do that, calling Frontier and having them switch your connection is a piece of cake.

A MoCA adapter is what you're looking for. It may be cheaper than a coax router.

https://www.amazon.com/Actiontec-Bonded-Ethernet-Adapter-ECB6200S02/dp/B013J7OBUU/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1521728348&sr=8-5&keywords=moca+adapter

i think the coax is just rg6

by "that unit", do you mean the moca? i dont think so

the ethernet stuff is all tested and good (router has 5 or 6 ports, they work)

am i maybe using the wrong sort of moca adapter? would this be the sort of thing that'll actually work: https://www.amazon.com/Actiontec-Bonded-Ethernet-Adapter-ECB6200S02/dp/B013J7OBUU/ref=dp_ob_title_ce

I have seen people use this for fios to get rid of the fios router and still have tv support. I wont be much help unfortunately since i don't have tv with fios.


https://www.amazon.com/dp/B013J7OBUU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_nwCVDbQP7BZM9

I recently utilized Moca at my parents house where they had DirecTV throughout the house. You can usually look up your modem model. However if you have Spectrum they do not support Moca. You can however use these adapaters wherever you want to utilize connections (one as a pass-through to your modem with the router connected to the Ethernet line) and the other where you want other connection.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B013J7OBUU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_9JOMDb0X5DAX8

My coax lines were not connected on the back end so I had to trace the cables from where they terminated (attic of all places) using a Coax tracer tool:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004ULX9C6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_BNOMDbX347AAX

The COAX line coming from the street into your modem will need one of these MOCA filters to prevent your connection from bleeding out into other Coax lines in your area:


https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DC8IEE6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_BKOMDbWGSCMFN

You will also need one of these Moca splitters to connect your Modem and your other Coax line where you want the other Moca adapter to connect to:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0113JAN8K/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_oMOMDbYY9R53C

A friend of mine switched over to an ASUS router from the FiOS provided router the other day using a MoCA 2.0 bridge on the Coax side instead of having the ONT switched over to Ethernet. If it worked for ASUS, don't see why it wouldn't work for onhub.

She said she's getting a full 500+ Mbps each way, so I suspect it's either the MoCA 2.0 or MoCA 2.0 bonded adapter.

https://www.amazon.com/Actiontec-Bonded-Ethernet-Adapter-ECB6200K02/dp/B013J7OBUU?th=1

If I recall, she patched the cable box via the second coax lead you'll see on the adapter.

You have your FiOS router plugged into the WAN1 port? Does you FiOS router have a WAN port of its own? I think technically the Ubiquiti ports can be configured for anything but you might as well use the suggested ports.

On my Ubiquiti switches it shows my modem/router as an uplink port. Does your USG show your FiOS as the same? I would definitely start by making sure DHCP and Firewall are turned off on the FiOS router. You basically want to turn it into a modem-only.

If it's anything like the crap Comcast tried to get me to use I'd suggest scrapping their setup and get yourself a replacement that just does modem duty. I have never used Verizon's FiOS so I am not sure the setup but I am sure a quick Google could link you to several verified alternatives. Maybe even something like this? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B013J7OBUU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_ep_dp_GYTLAbHZZ9SVJ

So if I were to run cat-6 through the ceiling like you suggested to wall plates in each room...and at some point want tv in one of the rooms, would I need to buy 2 of these (Actiontec Bonded MoCA 2.0 Ethernet to Coax Adapter (ECB6200S02) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B013J7OBUU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_.fbPBbZ7MAQR2) and place at either end of the Ethernet connection if I wanted to place the cable TV box in the room? Or this (Sabrent HDMI Extension cable over Cat5/6 RJ45 Extender adapter (Up to 200-Feet)With power Adapter (HDMI-EXTC) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001PT1A7C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_VobPBb026NE2Y) and place the cable box near the patch/switch away from the room with the TV and connect the tv directly to the wall plate?

I assumed this was the same tech as MoCA and Fios gateways get squirrely with more than one MoCA device from what I've read on this sub. If you have the most modern router from Fios, all you need is a single MoCA box in the basement on the same coax signal from Verizon. I bought the actiontec here: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B013J7OBUU/ref=sxts_kp_tr_2?pf_rd_p=8778bc68-27e7-403f-8460-de48b6e788fb&pd_rd_wg=XFEyX&pf_rd_r=BPV5BKMY3445024ZM4MJ&pd_rd_i=B013J7OBUU&pd_rd_w=4b9NG&pd_rd_r=0228fe60-7514-4904-bac6-b497fa3f7195&ie=UTF8&qid=1549983003&sr=2for my dad to wire his desktop on another level. You might be able to use this one: https://www.amazon.com/Actiontec-Dual-Band-Wireless-Extender-Ethernet/dp/B00FKTMWDE/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1549983003&sr=1-4&keywords=actiontec+moca for up to 100Mbps for 1/5 the cost and a bonus wifi repeater.

Just a note, you can use a MoCA to ethernet adapter to replace the need for the FiOS router (and its monthly rental fee). I'm using the older version of this and it's worked perfectly from day 1 without any setup.

https://www.amazon.com/Actiontec-Bonded-Ethernet-Adapter-ECB6200S02/dp/B013J7OBUU/ref=dp_ob_title_ce

You mean I could buy this here, plug the coax cable from the wall and then connect the via ethernet cable that thing with my router?

https://www.amazon.com/Actiontec-Bonded-Ethernet-Adapter-ECB6200S02/dp/B013J7OBUU?ref_=pe_623860_70668670

Which MoCA adapter are we talking about? The ones I'm looking at are $82 on Amazon

There’s an Actiontec set that I have great experience with. https://www.amazon.com/Actiontec-Bonded-Ethernet-Adapter-ECB6200S02/dp/B013J7OBUU

Make sure to get the 2 pack if you get them. Also, depending on connection speed, you should at least go Cat 5e if not Cat6 to ensure gigabit compatibility.

So I'd use this - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B013J7OBUU/ref=twister_B017XMNV2Q?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 and connect that to the coax in. After that connect the filter to the TV out and connect my Ethernet cable to the Ethernet out and all should work in theory?

Ah I see. The ONT is the box that they installed in my home, right? That's in my basement (I think), so does that mean I would need to hook up an ethernet cable from that to my router? There's an ethernet port on the same coax outlet where the coaxial cable that connects to my current rented verizon cable is. Could that possibly also be connected to the ONT too? I guess only way to find out is to try it right? xD

Also, if you don't mind me asking (sorry for all the questions), assuming I have that the ONT stuff all set, I currently have this TP-LINK router that I was recommended by a friend. Would it be better to get this adpater or would this cheaper one work just as fine?

Do you already have FiOS service, or are you planning on ordering it?

If the ONT doesn't have an ethernet port then it sounds like it's a pretty old one. If you don't already have FiOS service then there's a good chance they'll upgrade the ONT when you call and order it. If they do that then the new ONT would likely have an ethernet port that they can provision for you.

If you're stuck with that ONT then one solution would be to purchase a MoCA bridge which would provide you with an ethernet port. Then you could use whatever router you want.

https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Unifi-Security-Gateway-USG/dp/B00LV8YZLK/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1511814229&sr=8-2&keywords=Unifi+Security+Gateway

https://www.amazon.com/Actiontec-Bonded-Ethernet-Adapter-ECB6200S02/dp/B013J7OBUU/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1511814273&sr=1-2&keywords=moca+bridge

https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-UAP-AC-HD-Unifi-Access-Point/dp/B01N15FSAG/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1511814368&sr=1-1&keywords=unifi+ac+hd

I like the sound of the USG one. Is this essentially all I need to get it set up? The MoCA 2.0 Bridge, USG, and the UniFi AC HD. And the software which I'm assuming is a free download. What is a switch and do I need one of those as well? And do the Verizon agents that come and set up everything work with these as well? I would assume not..

So, if I buy a MoCA bridge like this, I could just unhook my MI424WR for two hours to release DHCP and then plug the bridge in and run it into my own router?

[This one] (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B013J7OBUU/)

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All understood. So you're saying COAX goes to the modem .. right?

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Check out using MoCa if you have coax in the rooms.

Actiontec Bonded MoCA 2.0 Ethernet to Coax Adapter (ECB6200S02) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B013J7OBUU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_Ei6JAbV1G6R02