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u/kirkgoldsberry · 17 pointsr/nba
u/WhatsAPartridge · 8 pointsr/nba

Under the "Stats and Data Analysis", this should be reading for those that don't have a bachelors in NBA or a masters: Basketball on Paper by Dean Oliver

u/HD_Thoreau_aweigh · 5 pointsr/nba

Garbage time, or playing up or down to a team, can be accounted for.

I don't wanna sound elitist but the explanation requires more math than I'm willing to do. If you're interested in it I would HIGHLY recommend Basketball on Paper by Dean Oliver. He has a chapter devoted to this subject that is really good and is eminently readable. The book itself is inspirationally good.

There's a lot of other sports stats guys who talk about the same thing. I think Wages of Wins talks about it a lot.

tl;dr: if you run the numbers and test which stat is more predictive, win record or point differential, it's point differential.

u/wjbc · 3 pointsr/nba

Not a book, but Nylon Calculus 101 is a good introduction to analytics. You could print it out if you want.

Dean Oliver's Basketball on Paper is a classic. Although published in 2004, it's still relevant.

u/jokes_on_you · 2 pointsr/nba

I think we may have miscommunicated about your ambitions. What you're referring to is a scorekeeper and I don't think it requires much, if any, formal statistics training. You had mentioned getting a master's degree so I was talking about something different. Those who are trained as statisticians or related fields and hired by NBA teams are called many things but often has "analytics" in the title. Think Daryl Morey, Warriors, Sam Hinkie, etc. Using numbers to inform play style, acquisitions, trades, etc. Here is a book about it that seems aimed towards the layperson. This one is considered the "Moneyball" of basketball but is quite dated. This is by Kirk Goldsberry and is specifically about the 3-point shot and probably has the highest production value and approachability.

u/PresidentWhitmore · 2 pointsr/CollegeBasketball

Of the books I've read:

  • A Season on the Brink - John Feinstein Feinstein's chronicling of Bob Knight the 1985-1986 Indiana Hoosiers. The book was very successful and Feinstein followed it up with a number of inside looks at college basketball. 10/10
  • The Last Amateurs It's about the Patriot League which, at the time of publication, was one of two conferences that didn't award athletic scholarships (Ivy was the other). 7/10
  • Basketball on Paper - Dean Oliver Oliver is the granddaddy of basketball analytics. His examples are primarily focused on the NBA, but it's an interesting read that might change your perspective on how you watch basketball. 8/10
  • Don't Put Me In Coach - Mark Titus Maybe it's just because I was a big fan of Club Trillion back in the day, but I think it's a really funny and interesting read about what big time college basketball is like today. Like A Season on the Brink, it helps you realize that, regardless of the era, these guys are just college kids. 7/10
  • Playing for Knight - Steve Alford There are some interesting Indiana stories in here. But whereas A Season the Brink is enjoyable and a must read for any college basketball fan, this one is probably just worth reading if you're an Indiana fan. 5/10
  • Last Dance: Behind the Scenes at the Final Four - John Feinstein Eh. Not as good as some of the other ones I've read by him. 4/10.

    On my bookshelf but I haven't read them yet:

  • Underdawgs - David Woods The story of Butler's first trip to the Final Four. This is the one I'm most excited to pick up next.
  • Rising from the Ashes - Terry Hutchins It's about Indiana's dumpster fire leading up through it's return to the Top 25 in 2011-2012. Honestly, I only bought it because Hutchins and Woods were selling them side by side at a Butler Indiana game and I felt weird buying just the Butler book while wearing Indiana gear. It's a story that I already know by heart because I lived through it so I might never get around to reading it.
  • The Last Great Game - Gene Wojciechowski About 1992 Kentucky - Duke. Haven't read it yet. Although I certainly plan to.
u/Boozers_Hair_Care · 2 pointsr/nba

the book of basketball by Bill Simmons is a good book that puts how good certain players were in context at the time it was written.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Book-Basketball-According-Sports/dp/0345520106

Bballbreakdown http://www.youtube.com/user/bballbreakdown

on youtube is a cool channel that explains how certain offensives work and what is actually happening on the court.

basketball on paper by dean oliver is a good start to a statistical analysis of basketball.

http://www.amazon.com/Basketball-Paper-Rules-Performance-Analysis/dp/1574886886/ref=pd_sim_b_14?ie=UTF8&refRID=1ZM4AQKYZC4K42KYFDME

u/120kph · 1 pointr/sportsbook

OK so my first really interesting read has been Mathletics by Wayne Winston and Basketball on Paper by Dean Oliver.


What I have learnt so far is that it really comes down to knowing your statistics, knowing how to apply them and building a spreadsheet from there, identifying patterns along the way.

u/OliverAlden · 1 pointr/nba

These stats are from Dean Oliver's 2004 book (and earlier, on his website):

https://www.amazon.com/Basketball-Paper-Rules-Performance-Analysis/dp/1574886886