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2x4 USB 2.0 Audio/MIDI Interface for recording microphones and instrumentsAudiophile 24-Bit/192 kHz resolution for professional audio qualityCompatible with popular recording software including Avid Pro Tools*, Ableton Live*, Steinberg Cubase*, etc.Streams 2 inputs / 4 outputs plus 1x MIDI I/O with ultra-low latency to your computer, supporting Mac* OS X* and Windows XP* or higher2 state-of-the-art, MIDAS designed Mic Preamplifiers with +48 V phantom power
I like the Berhinger UMC204HD.
https://www.amazon.com/Behringer-UMC204HD-BEHRINGER-U-PHORIA/dp/B00QHURLCW
At this pricepoint all the market entries are going to have the same chips inside and similar performance, but the Behringer has the broadest feature set, with 'inserts' and MIDI.
I have two Berhinger interfaces, the UMC404HD and the UFX1204. I'm happy with both.
Behringer UMC22 is US$48 on Amazon. It will do.
Behringer Uphoria UMC204HD is the best bang for the buck. If you can save some more money you can get it for US$80.
Well, you have a massive leg up on a lot of people in terms of music theory and chops. I'm going to assume you can read a fake book, a chart and are probably a better player than me. Jazz especially will align with composition, voicing and other stuff. Even though classical gives chops, I think (without explicit work) it leads to something that synths or production might not use.
The good thing is, it's not as much practice. It's a lot of toying around, reading and learning. But it's not like playing. You see the opposite problem with people that make a lot of noise but then want to start on composition or music theory. They have all this gear but they don't finish stuff. That's fine for some, just fool around but then there's not much growth. That's pretty much the end game. So what you're going to discover is a universe of TIMBRE. New sounds that are very dynamic. Modulation, timber over time. The problem is, a lot of this stuff won't exercise your chops. Maybe that's ok with you.
Do you have a DAW or a computer to record with? The cheapest way for almost anything is software. U-he makes great plugins and they have Hive as an intro synth. It's no toy either. It just has "
"accessible" priorities. They are releasing a new version soon so maybe wait on that. You're going to need a VST host to go that route. Maybe you have something already. Reaper is free to try. And you'll need a sound card. Almost anything is fine. Behringer has a cheap USB thing for $130: https://www.amazon.com/Behringer-UMC204HD-BEHRINGER/dp/B00QHURLCW/
That'd be fine for a while. You'll want to upgrade it if you want to improve recording sound and/or complexity in projects (latency).
Barebones for a software synth:
Otherwise, you could go hardware. In which case, getting the Korg Minilogue is a great intro synth. It only has four voices which might be frustrating. It would teach you the basics of oscillators, filters and ADSR envelopes. Almost anything synth will (including software). If you want more voices, maybe an 8 voice Korg prologue.
Flying Lotus and Jon Hopkins is more about production and layering in which case you probably want to learn a DAW pretty well. That's heavily produced and processed music which might not have a lot to do with "the synth". The sound you're after might be many layers of drums and effects. Hard to say. You'll need to learn plugins, mixing and how to work quickly.
For playing with a live band, I'd only use a hardware synth.
Another way to practice textures and having control over it is something like this.
That's kind of the practice type material/goals you might take on. Then making "that bass sound you heard" is going to be way easier. There's also another synth subreddit /r/synthrecipes/ where people ask for tips on things they heard. I don't know much about that subreddit. Hope this helps ... ask questions ...
get a audio interface with xlr outputs or 1/4 outputs. Also your're gonna wanna get balanced outputs.
https://www.amazon.com/Behringer-UMC204HD-BEHRINGER/dp/B00QHURLCW
Behringer UMC204HD. $80 new, and there's a used one on Amazon Warehouse right now for $68:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/ol/B00QHURLCW/ref=mw_dp_olp?ie=UTF8&condition=all
The thing is pretty fantastic for the money:
https://audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/budget-dac-review-behringer-umc204hd.1658/
So when recording vocals and guitar at the same time, like you'd like to do, the debate on what to do is really about how much control you want over editing in the end process.
- If you don't care about control on the individual levels of guitar and vocals AND want to record in one take with both instruments, all you need is one mic, XLR, Mic stand, headphones, and an interface to get the signal into your computer.
In this situation, you need A. and Interface that is cheap but not a POS because it really affects the sound of your recording. Behringer makes a cheap interface for 1 Input (microphone) and actually has a decent Preamp in it. B, you need a microphone and cable (XLR, Balanced) to capture the sound and send it to the interface. This area people could talk forever about, but for just getting the job done and a decent sound, AT2020 Condenser (Currently On Sale) is a great option for capturing both your voice and guitar. any XLR will do $10 or something like that.
- If you wanted to track the guitar and vocals separately, one at a time, the only change I would make is the microphone. Shure SM57 would do great for vocals and guitar individually. There have been many singles and albums in the rock, acoustic, and folk category recorded on these mics alone with fantastic results.
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- If recording the guitar and the vocals at the SAME TIME is the route you want, it's definitely possible. 2 Input interface, Two mics, Two XLR's, Two Mic stands, headphones.
- a change in interface is needed from the first behringer to this one because they have the same sound only difference is the amount of inputs for ~$50 more. Next would be buying two microphones, both options listed above are probably going to be the cheapest you'll find with a decent sound. You can find packages like this on guitar center and other audio retailers, but the mics come with a lot of bad frequencies in my opinion, but hard to argue $99 for two microphones. get the cables, plug everything up and record enable two live tracks in you preferred DAW.
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As far as the computer goes, Ableton hands out free versions of its "lite" program, and I believe you can record in that version. That would be the best route in my opinion for DAW, Reaper is a good option, I'd stay away from fruity loops if you are mainly just going to be recording audio.
Most of these solutions will put you under or around $250 so I hope this helps, if you have more questions let me know.
Edit- Thanks for clearing that up! One is on the way! (3-6 months from now...) Yeah, they're 79.99 on amazon and a bunch of other sites, if you don't mind waiting this looks like a really freaking good audio interface if you're reading this and you don't have one. I have read that usb 3.0 and the drivers from behringer are required. Also apparently macs will handle this puppy without drivers I think. Yay!
Again, thanks for all the help you guys! I'll pin this sucker to my fridge lol ;P
Original post:
Yeah so I have plans to do a live show, triggering audio and midi clips from the launchpad and possibly soloing/talkboxing live when the midi to the synth isn't playing. I don't want to get a whole bunch more equipment, I'm looking to get just the behringer umc 204hd (currently on sale on amazon right now for less than the 202hd)
I've tried explaining this just via text before but really i'm more a visual kind of guy
I want the audio to go into the daw without also going out live through the back end, so that I can apply sidechaining and mixing eq effects to it and end up with a finished master channel that is more polished and much more controlled than just trying to mix in the synth outside of the daw.
Being able to put a master compressor on everything and know that it's gonna sound dope as hell as it comes out is basically what I want to do. Make a live experience that is super polished and took a lot of work to set up, but is also flexible enough to not feel "prerecorded", everything is just a little bit more planned out than a dj set may be.
Also if you could recommend a similar audio interface which can do all I ask of it, as stated above, that would also be great.
Cheers and thanks for trying to decipher my chart/diagram! I spent all of 30 minutes making it as neat as possible with just a mouse.
The Behringer U-Phoria UMC 204HD is a great one, I use it myself with my AT2020.
Another alternative is the 202HD which doesn't have MIDI ports but is cheaper. Depends what you need.
Your condenser mic needs power, and it can receive power over a XLR/mic cable from a preamplifier with a 48v switch.
The preamplifier needs to be connected to an analog->digital and digital->analog conversion circuit to work with your digital computer.
The devices that handle preamplification AND D/A A/D conversions are called AUDIO INTERFACES. A cheap one: behringer ucm2
If you want to use it as MIDI keyboard, then connect it via USB and it should work. But if you want to record its audio, then better get an external audio interface. Something like https://www.amazon.com/Behringer-UMC204HD-BEHRINGER/dp/B00QHURLCW/
Wow, 25? Don't tell anybody in the music business :)
Seriously, I thought your video shows promise, the best thing you could do is pick up a cheap USB audio interface and a "large diaphragm condenser microphone" and some headphones. Set it all up, then practice without recording for a few ways to get used to the feel of singing with your audio feedback in the headphones. Once you a re comfortable, hit record..!
Here's some gear that would worthwhile to look into... adjust to your budget and taste.
https://www.amazon.com/Behringer-UMC204HD-BEHRINGER-U-PHORIA/dp/B00QHURLCW/ref=sr_1_14?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1496707506&sr=1-14&keywords=usb+audio+interface
and pair it with either a microphone like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Nady-SCM-800-Diaphragm-Condenser-Microphone/dp/B000R4LQ4S/ref=sr_1_12?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1496707358&sr=1-12&keywords=condenser+microphone
or get a pair of large and regular condensers like this:
https://www.amazon.com/MXL-550-551R-Microphone-Ensemble/dp/B002LASBS0/ref=sr_1_11?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1496707358&sr=1-11&keywords=condenser+microphone
Those are just suggestions, check out this guy's channel, he's got some great tips!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZRnrA5GOx0
A external sound card (audio interface) like such ;
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00QHURLCW?aaxitk=uvWivV0TJ-U1M9WdqXhZsQ&pd_rd_i=B00QHURLCW&hsa_cr_id=3638016320001
There are tons on the market, just depends on what you looking for, there is a guy named Podcastage on youtube that gives a good break down on cost effective pro audio equipment.
The audio interface will help you manage your sound between your laptop and mixer more effectively, plus it could also help with any digital to analog problems.
Hope this helps
The cheapest way would be this guy, but only if you have a line-level output on your computer... which I think most do.
The better option would be to get an audio interface like this, which connects over USB, and
Something like this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00QHURLCW/ref=mh_s9_acsd_top_boEu3_c_x_4_w?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=mobile-hybrid-3&pf_rd_r=WG6WTE1FKQJGX7TKVWNP&pf_rd_r=WG6WTE1FKQJGX7TKVWNP&pf_rd_t=30901&pf_rd_p=0103afa1-969e-59ec-af5f-b5e6ed4a4ba6&pf_rd_p=0103afa1-969e-59ec-af5f-b5e6ed4a4ba6&pf_rd_i=11973691
And 2 of these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0756V2B6R/ref=mp_s_a_1_29?ie=UTF8&qid=1517757516&sr=1-29-spons&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=stereo+condenser+microphone&psc=1
I suggest anything with USB 3 or FireWire or better. I suggest over 96mhz due to violin for sure. So look at the specs.
If you had to sacrifice maybe usb2 for now if you do t mi d getting another interface later if you just want to experiment. Maudio kind of sucks for their entry level stuff
http://amzn.to/29kGmuu. Maybe this or maybe pick one with a free entry level daw if you don't have one yet.
Edit: honestly I suggest 200 to spare
Can you give us an indication of what your working Budget is?
Can we assume you have a decent computer to record to?
What is it you will be recording? A few more details please?
Most studio - amateur or profession - use Active Monitor - Mackie MR, KRK Rokit, JBL 300-Series,... - though there are cheaper monitors, how well they will do will depend on what you are trying to record.
The Behringer Uphoria UM2 ($39) is a very basic USB Interface. You will not be able to do anything fancy with that. But perhaps you don't need anything fancy. I don't know.
https://www.amazon.com/BEHRINGER-Audio-Interface-1-Channel-UM2/dp/B00EK1OTZC/
Something like this with two discrete inputs with controls is probably better, but considerably more money -
https://www.amazon.com/Behringer-U-PHORIA-UMC202HD-Interface-Structure/dp/B079YBLNSX/
https://www.amazon.com/Behringer-UMC204HD-BEHRINGER/dp/B00QHURLCW/
Again, I don't know what you are trying to accomplish, so I can't say what will work for you.
If you go with passive speakers, and you need an amp, this one is powerful (relatively speaking) and versatile -
https://www.amazon.com/SMSL-AD18-Bluetooth-Decoding-Amplifier/dp/B01M3ULDG9/
Just a few thoughts.
You would have to do some adapters to get everything plugged in, but this would work
https://smile.amazon.com/Behringer-UMC204HD-BEHRINGER-U-PHORIA/dp/B00QHURLCW/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1505615486&sr=8-3&keywords=u-phoria
This is the recording interface I use, as you can see it has a knob on the front for "Mix" that mixes the Playback and the input. It would give you live ultra low latency monitoring.
This is of course WAY overkill for what you are trying to do, but it would work.
As to if this would actually lower your volume (of your actual voice) I don't know, and if trying it out is worth 80 bucks to you. There might be a cheaper interface out there, I just don't know of one that has the mix feature, and have not used any other so I really couldn't speak to how well it would work.
If you want to stick to Behringer, look at something like this instead. You want something that has an XLR input for your ATR 2100 and has USB out to get to the computer. I can't speak to the quality of the pre-amp in that, but honestly, I'd guess it's not great. Alternatively, you might consider this one which I'm guessing has a better pre-amp, but I don't know. I really have no experience with their products.
If you want something with more inputs and flexibility, I'm pretty sure the 802 (as /u/fridaynightarcade has mentioned) gets used fairly frequently in here to good reviews. That is more expensive and has more inputs, but it also provides room for growth if you're ever planning on adding more people/microphones/audio sources to your stuff.
So what would work better for what we're doing? The Behringer Q802USB or the UMC204HD?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008O517IC/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
or
https://www.amazon.com/Behringer-UMC204HD-BEHRINGER-U-PHORIA/dp/B00QHURLCW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1500862952&sr=8-2&keywords=UMC404hd
They're the same price. What would be the benefits of one over the other?
How about something like this?
https://www.amazon.ca/Behringer-UMC204HD-Interface-Microphone-Preamplifiers/dp/B00QHURLCW/ref=pd_cp_267_4?pd_rd_w=bUqCt&pf_rd_p=64a84aa4-b549-4445-9bf3-48bdeed5f24a&pf_rd_r=FX3NWDPM2P6N3N7MHKJS&pd_rd_r=ae0536b5-3968-11e9-bc35-6d37620f0add&pd_rd_wg=vjeUk&pd_rd_i=B00QHURLCW&psc=1&refRID=FX3NWDPM2P6N3N7MHKJS
Going by your budget from your other comment (and usage), I'd recommend the Behringer UMC 204, PreSonus AudioBox, or something similar for an interface (just make sure it has 2 XLR inputs) and a set of dynamics like the Behringer XM1800S or the CAD D32. This should also leave enough money for a couple of mic stands and XLR cables, and give you a great sound.
If you can, I'd also recommend looking into acoustic treatment. Even if it's improvised (some thick blankets strung up behind you), it will help improve your audio significantly. Basically, you want to cut out some of the reverb from the hard surfaces in the room as they will make the audio sound harsh. You don't need a full on studio, but acoustic treatment does more for audio quality than more expensive mics.
The midi controller will likely connect on its own via USB. Looks like the MIDI Commander has a USB connection and a MIDI-out port.
If you do want the flexibility to connect MIDI to other stuff with the interface and the floor controller, you'll need an interface with MIDI in and out, which this Behringer has for a decent price, though I haven't looked at reviews, so do your research. I don't think the smaller Scarlett interfaces have MIDI in or out ports.
I use one of these: https://www.amazon.com/Behringer-UMC204HD-BEHRINGER/dp/B00QHURLCW/
They record up to 192 kHz and 24 bit audio which is more than enough for any analog format.
If your receiver has tape outputs just connect them to the 2 XLR inputs on the interface with something like these: https://www.amazon.com/d/RCA-Cables/Hosa-CPR-202-Stereo-Interconnect-Cable/B000068O17/
Some techno geeks will tell you otherwise, but you always want to Mic a guitar cab if you are recording with a good dedicated instrument Mic. I have one of [these:] (https://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-Silver-Cardioid-Instrument-Microphone/dp/B0002GYSNC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1499801289&sr=8-1&keywords=sennheiser+609) and it does a hell of a job for 100 dollars in my opinion. Research "how" to mic a cab as well before you begin.
After that, the "interface" is just basically an input that goes from the microphone cable to the computer. A good pre-amp here helps a lot with quality, but I bought this guy recently, and again, for that price, it kicks so much ass in my opinion. I don't see how it could be made any cheaper.
I think the main thing if you get more expensive with the interface you can A: get better preamps (probably not important to you if you are just getting into it and B: Record more inputs simultaneously. I have an 8 port one as well as the one I linked, and that's nice when the boys come over to crack a few cold ones. If we get to jamming, I can just mic everything, start recording, and see what happens. But realistically, if you don't want to do the "whole live band" recording thing, and be able to go back and have everything separately tracked for editing, the two interface is fine for personal recording. (use one for most instruments, both at once for anything in stereo).
Then it's just telling your DAW to use the interface as the input and recording your tracks.
You will have no ill effects. If you do plug in a mixer just make sure to set your gain staging correctly to avoid overloading your devices input and whatever you do DO NOT TURN PHANTOM POWER ON! You will potentially blow up the OP amp of whatever outboard gear you connect to it.
I would add though, if you're gonna drop $100 on device like that, why not spend the extra $20-30 on a 2 channel unit like this: https://www.amazon.com/Behringer-UMC204HD-BEHRINGER/dp/B00QHURLCW/ref=sxin_1_ac_d_rm?ac_md=2-2-bWF1ZGlvIGludGVyZmFjZQ%3D%3D-ac_d_rm&keywords=maudio&pd_rd_i=B00QHURLCW&pd_rd_r=6ac0e74a-9349-4277-a530-4ecf53a27259&pd_rd_w=H7uuW&pd_rd_wg=O1fIN&pf_rd_p=404c4843-2c96-4d0d-a5fe-2b0598693e61&pf_rd_r=STKYGDHY83H2TY0XJN6M&qid=1568618756
You get a far better and far more versatile unit for not much extra cost. There's other brands if you don't like Behringer that aren't that much more expensive either. I'm sure the unit you've linked will serve your function but there are far better units out there that aren't that much more expensive.
These (umc204 and umc404) do have the MIDI DIN in/out connectors.
https://www.amazon.com/Behringer-UMC204HD-BEHRINGER/dp/B00QHURLCW/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?keywords=behringer+uphoria+um2&qid=1561954038&s=gateway&sprefix=behringer+euph&sr=8-4
Beware, the cheaper interfaces mostly don't have MIDI DIN
I recently bought a Lenovo Flex 14 for around $500 on amazon and it has worked out very well for my live band so far. I run backtracks and occasional realtime vocoding on it. I have also made it my main studio computer at this point as well. I use a behringer umc204hd interface for recording. Hasn't let me down yet.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07PB5M8DS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/Behringer-UMC204HD-BEHRINGER/dp/B00QHURLCW/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=umc204hd&qid=1564685525&s=musical-instruments&sr=1-1
That mic is great, but you can get something like an SM57 much cheaper, if she's recording acoustic guitar.
If you want a pretty good vocal mic, that will also be cheapish you can get something like this.
Or just buy an sm58 which is a cheaper version of the other one you just showed, and is good for doing live stuff if you want to do that.
You can also get a 4x4 input thing so that she can multitrack into a daw, or just a smaller one if she's only ever going to record like 2 tracks at once.
I got something like this.
The SM57 and SM58 are pretty much standards in the music world.
That being said, IIRC the SM7b (the mic you're looking at) is what Micheal Jackson recorded a lot of his stuff on ( the bad album at least), so it's def pro level.
My power rail on my modular is supposed to have an integrated power filter. But I also installed noise suppressing socket in the case to help eliminate AC line noise from the 110 outlet.
I didn't have noise issues with my previous interface which was this guy
The one I have is this hunk o junk Im usuing temporarily.
I only get the high pitched squeal using this interface via USB. No noise when I run my synths into a mixer, PA or analogue recorders.
https://www.amazon.com/Behringer-UMC204HD-BEHRINGER-U-PHORIA/dp/B00QHURLCW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1474603481&sr=8-1&keywords=behringer+audio+interface
You need an audio interface instead of audiophile hardware.
I use this UMC204HD and I really like it, it powers my 250ohm DT770s just fine. I use it for gaming and music.
It meets most of your needs:
What's your input source (PC, turntable, CD player, etc)? The D5s don't have an unbalanced (RCA) input, though you could use an RCA to 1/4" converter like this.
If your input source is a computer, you would be better off using a USB DAC or proper audio interface (with balanced outputs). Something like this or this.
The Vali 2 looks like a quality product, but it's a headphone amp and will not do much for you besides act as a volume control. The under-gained, small tube will add some (minimal) harmonic distortion, but it won't make the system sound "better."
Let me know what sources you intend to use and I can make some recommendations, if you like.
To be honest, I'm not sure /r/techsupport is the right sub for this. You might do better in /r/livesound.
A few things of note here.
You're getting that "hiss" because of line noise. The greater the gain, the more noise you'll hear.
The entire purpose of XLR is for balanced signals throughout the cable run. Balanced cable runs help to mitigate noise caused by electromagnetic interference.
The moment you introduced an unbalanced connection (the XLR->3.5mm cable to 3.5mm input) into the equation, that was effectively defeated.
There are other considerations here including knowing the difference between Mic Level Input and Line Level Input. However, in this specific situation, I'm going to point to a particular issue. Although the Behringer PS400 unit that you're using supplies Phantom Power to your microphone (which is needed for a Condenser microphone - but would not be needed for a Dynamic microphone), as far as I can tell, it does not supply any gain.
I would suggest a USB audio interface - either to act as a supplement to your PS400 unit or to replace it in entirety. I don't know what your budget is, but this Behringer unit might do the job.
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Regarding the USB version of your microphone, my Google Searching is turning up numerous reports of issues with that microphone and Windows 8/8.1/10 - though some of them claim to have mitigated or resolved the issue by lowering the gain, and raising the recording volume to max.