Reddit reviews Behringer Xenyx 1202 Premium 12-Input 2-Bus Mixer with XENYX Mic Preamps and British Eqs

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Arranqué el proyecto Economista del medio el año pasado como una forma de llevar el laburo de analista de consultoría macroeconómica a un espectro de población más amplio, lo cual implica menos jerga y biribiri financiero. Este año se sumó la periodista de Infobae Jorgelina Do Rosario y empezamos a cambiar el formato del programa: hemos ordenado los temas y sumamos las entrevistas que le dan un valor agregado enorme al oyente. Estamos muy contentos con el resultado hasta ahora, tanto en calidad del material como en escuchas.

De la misma manera que como mejoró el material también mejoró el hardware con el cual grabamos. En su momento empecé con un mixer Behringer Xenyx 1202FX, un micrófono Shure SM58, unos auriculares Audio Technica M40x y una Zoom H4n. Luego de mi viaje a Japón me traje micrófono un Audio Technica 4040 (large diaphragm condenser) y ahí terminó el avance en hardware en 2016. En términos de software editaba (y sigo editando) el archivo crudo con el Logic Pro X de Apple.

Este año invertimos y nos trajimos (via Amazon Europa) un mixer Allen & Heath Zed60 10fx y un segundo micrófono Audio Technica pero el AT875r (un shotgun cortito condenser que es una maravilla). De backup tenemos dos micrófonos Audio Technica 2100 (los que son USB/XLR) que en relación precio/calidad son muy recomendados para los podcasters amateurs. En resumen, nuestro lineup de materiales es de primera calidad y para explotarlo al máximo, estamos intentando mejorar el tratamiento acústico del área donde grabamos para minimizar ruidos indeseados.

Como te decía, estamos muy contentos con las escuchas (en número general y en público en particular, es decir, los quienes). Hemos recibido comentarios de gente que nos sorprendió y eso nos motiva. Todavía no es LA masividad en escuchas pero queremos estar acá invirtiendo en esto para que cuando explote el podcasting en Argentina (porque va a pasar, que no te quepa la menor duda) tener una buena base y experiencia para seguir proyectándonos.

Lo lindo es que se están acercando algunos sponsors interesados en el material asi que significa que hay proyección a futuro. La verdad que al día de hoy estamos muy a gusto y cómodos laburando en el proyecto, que es para nosotros ahora lo más importante.

Por otro lado, una de las cosas más copadas que me pasó es poder grabar con una persona que conozco y confío de hace muchos años. Al principio hacerlo solo era más un desahogo pero laburar con alguien en esto, que aparte sabe y se mueve en el medio, tiene algo muy especial y divertido. Ese es un item que taché de mi lista de pendientes.

En materia de proyección a futuro y ToDos, creo que seguir mejorando y buscando calidad para ofrecer el mejor producto disponible en el mercado. En materia de hardware todavía tengo la espinita clavada por el Shure SM7b con su respectivo Cloudlifter pero por ahora estamos muy contentos con el equipo con el cual grabamos.

Saludos!

I would recommend upgrading that at least a little bit. I host podcasts and I wouldn't want headphone mic audio on my show.

You should at least look at some cheap usb microphones. I'd recommend the [ATR 2100] () which I bought for 25 bucks. I'm currently using an [XLR mixing board] (http://www.amazon.com/Behringer-1202-BEHRINGER-XENYX/dp/B000J5Y282/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1456871248&sr=8-4&keywords=behringer+mixing+board) and a [10 dollar dynamic microphone] (http://www.amazon.com/Behringer-XM8500-Dynamic-Cardioid-Microphone/dp/B0002KZAKS/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1456871363&sr=8-3&keywords=behringer+3+pack) that sound absolutely wonderful and only cost me 70 bucks when I bought them used.

Are you going to be running your mics through an audio board (I would suggest that) or try to go straight into your computer?

These are the mics I use:
http://www.amazon.com/MXL-990-Condenser-Microphone-Shockmount/dp/B0002GIRP2/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1422462371&sr=8-3&keywords=MXL

Windscreen:
http://www.amazon.com/Nady-MPF-6-6-Inch-Microphone-Filter/dp/B0002CZW0Y/ref=pd_bxgy_MI_img_y

Audio board
http://www.amazon.com/Behringer-1202-BEHRINGER-XENYX/dp/B000J5Y282/ref=sr_1_19?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1422462418&sr=1-19&keywords=audio+board

These are doing to be your main components, if the mics are too expensive I can recommend some cheaper ones. Ideally you want to record to hardware (not your computer) then transfer it. I usually also record on my computer as well just to have a backup. I use Audacity to record on my computer

I use this to record to SD cards to put it on the computer.

http://www.amazon.com/Zoom-Handy-Portable-Digital-Recorder/dp/B001QWBM62/ref=sr_1_2?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1422462555&sr=1-2&keywords=h2n

Let me know if you have any questions.

If you ever want to have callers/skypers/etc. on your show, make sure you get one that you can do a mix-minus with. Basically you'll want a mon-send or an fx-send. Look for at least a 2-bus mixer or you'll be limited to a single mix-minus connection.

I have a Behringer Q802USB - I should have just bought the 802 (not USB) for $15 less. Here's a little secrete I didn't know when I bought it - you can't use the USB bi-directionally. You're EITHER sending audio to the PC or receiving audio from the PC. So it didn't work for my needs to monitoring incoming audio from the PC and send my mic feed at the same time. I ended up buying a UCA202 USB interface and that solved my problem.

You'll hear the Behringer's are noisy. They are. If you drive the gain it gets really hissy. BUT keep the levels down and it works just fine. For under $80 it's really hard to beat.

If you're on a budget, and want to record 3 mic, I would maybe take a look at these:

Behring 1202
http://www.amazon.com/Behringer-1202-BEHRINGER-XENYX/dp/B000J5Y282/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1421430697&sr=8-1&keywords=behringer+1202

Alto Professional ZMX122FX
http://www.amazon.com/Alto-Professional-ZMX122FX-8-Channel-Preamps/dp/B004TM31FG/ref=sr_1_2?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1421430794&sr=1-2

Mackie 802VLZ4
http://www.amazon.com/Mackie-802VLZ4-8-channel-Compact-Quality/dp/B00EDHWLFI/ref=sr_1_33?ie=UTF8&qid=1421430841&sr=8-33&keywords=audio+mixer

Yamaha MG10XU
http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-MG10XU-10-Input-Stereo-Mixer/dp/B00IBIVL42/ref=sr_1_61?ie=UTF8&qid=1421430887&sr=8-61&keywords=audio+mixer

For a really inexpensive 2-bus mixer with a sub-group, maybe the Behringer Eurorack UB1204. You get 2 aux sends + a 3-4 submix. I've not heard anything about these mixers - so I can't tell you if the mic pres are at all acceptable. Anyone will tell you if you're serious to stay away from Behringer.
http://www.amazon.com/Behringer-UB1204-PRO-BEHRINGER-EURORACK/dp/B00551VDIM/ref=sr_1_sc_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1421430950&sr=8-2-spell&keywords=behringer+euroack

I own this mixer and I won't say it's great, but if you need an inexpensive way to unify the audio output of various devices this will do that for sure. I mean obviously there are better mixers out there but to give you a place to start there's one.

You will also want a sequencer of some sort, I don't have any recommendations on hardware for that, I am still figuring that part out, I use Ableton for now.

What we use :) Just grab some pop filters too.
Good luck!

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000J5Y282/
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002HJ61PK

I also vouch for the Behringer XENYX 1202. It's relatively inexpensive and reasonably powerful. You'll also need one of these for USB interface:

Behringer UCA202 Audio Interface

You do need an XLR for mixers.

I bought the AT2020 USB mic first, and I had the same problem you are having, my PC fans were WAY TOO LOUD. And so I bought This Mixer and the XLR version of the AT2020

USB mics are great when you have a studio or if they are dynamic. USB condensers are only great if you use a studio.

The benefit of condensers is that they are great vocal mics. The pick up a very good range of frequencies, and allow your voice to come in crisp. But that also means that a lot of background noise will come with it, so you need to be able to reduce way comes through, and even still post editing is a must.

this is the one i've been using: https://www.amazon.com/Behringer-1202-BEHRINGER-XENYX/dp/B000J5Y282 there's nothing really "lofi" about it, i get plenty of high end distortion from it. and it's pretty versatile, i'll use patch cables to route various channels through pedals and into inputs, and tweak knobs as i progress through the song.

Here's an example of something I've done using this set up (i recorded a live take and then overlapped two parts of that): https://clyp.it/rxpzbnx1?token=8c75dc57fec78caa06cb2c204f5865e0

So, I don't know the most technical differences, but I can tell you the major difference between Condenser and Dynamic.

Condenser mics are going to pick up a lot of ambient noise. You'll probably see these in a recording studio, and they work well in that setting because studios are designed to incorporate them. Some condenser mics require phantom power to power them, the Blue lineup does not as they are powered by the computer.

Dynamic mics are going to be more focused, picking up the sound directly in front of them. I prefer the Dynamic, as I think you can get a better, more isolated sound. Especially if your recording space isn't ideal or acoustically treated.

The Blue Microphones (Snowball and Yeti) are condenser mics. So, if you're using a Yeti, you're going to be picking up a lot of the noise in the room, and outside the room (and even the building, depending on your recording space). So, if you have animals, roomates, Air Conditioning, fans, any little thing that makes noise, it will be picked up.

We used to record with a Blue Snowball, and while it's nice for capturing the sound of multiple hosts, the cons outweigh the pros.

Now, if you're able to treat the space with either acoustic foam, or even something as simple as hanging blankets up, and putting some on the floor if you don't have carpet, this will help your acoustics.

Or, if you're a one-person show, you can record in a closet, as well Just be mindful of any ambient noises you might not think of.

However, depending on how many people you're planning on having, here's the setup I recommend, for your price range:

1. Behringer Xenyx 1202 with 4 XLR inputs. - This $80 mixer gives you some room to grow.
   
   
2. Behringer Ultravoice 3-Pack - This affordable $40 dynamic microphone bundle will let you and any additional hosts get started with a decent sound. You could always upgrade to more expensive mics later, but even the affordable Behringer XM8500 is a great mic that comes in at $20.
   
   
3. Pick up the cables, which should run you between $20–$30: 3 XLR cables, plus the line out from the mixer to your laptop/computer.
   
   
4. Audacity. Free, easy-to-use editing software that I've been using for 6 years and is perfect for my show's needs. There are a lot of online resources to support Audacity and all of its functions.
   
   
5. A hosting site: Podbean, Shout Engine, Libsyn, Archive.org, etc. This is where you'd upload your show and use your RSS feed to get into iTunes. I personally use Podbean, but to have a decent go of it, you'll have to pay. We pay around $100 a year. Shout Engine and Archive.org are free alternatives, and I've personally used Shout Engine without issue.
   
   
6. Some people like to use headsets to monitor their sound, but it's not super necessary to start. You can gauge your volumes by watching the recording track in Audacity and see if anyone needs to be turned up or down. Using dynamic mics and a mixer will give you a lot of volume control pre-recording. Down the road, you could look into an Audio Interface which would allow for multitrack recording, giving more control over everyones levels post-recording.
   
   And there you go. For about $150, you'll have a decent starter setup which will capture a good sound right away.
   

If you want to spend money and not just use your laptop you will need the following.

3 XLR microphones, stands and cables
A mixer with at least 3 XLR inputs
If you want to all listen on headphones you will need a splitter for that
A few assorted cables i will list
And garage band or some other recording software.

I have listed below what i used starting out.

[Microphones] (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002T45X1G/ref=oh_details_o08_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

[Stands] (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002M3OVI/ref=oh_details_o08_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

[Mixer] (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000J5Y282/ref=oh_details_o08_s02_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

[Headphones splitter] (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000M0TN6U/ref=oh_details_o08_s01_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

[Microphone cables] (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008B2DBY6/ref=oh_details_o08_s02_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

[Other cables] (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005HGM1D6/ref=oh_details_o08_s02_i02?ie=UTF8&psc=1) These are used to go from your mixer into the recording device and also from the mixer into the headphone splitter.

Hope this helps.

You could always try this Behringer ULTRAVOICE XM1800S Dynamic Cardioid Vocal Microphones, 3-Pack (at 30-40 bucks a pop you can buy two for SIX mics) and TASCAM DR-40, and as many of these splitters as you need. We've put our mics into these splitters and they work splendidly. You'll also need XLR cables for the mics as well. If you have two friends who are louder than everyone else I guess you could also buy a mixer for a little more control.

Anyways, I have the DR-40, Behringer mics, and the splitters. They work pretty damn well for how cheap you can get them. You get great portability, as well.

A lot of these guys are probably a lot more pro than me, so they're probably the ones to listen to if you want to be super legit. If you are on a budget, though, I can confirm that this setup works quite well! Minus the mixer you could probably get everything for six people having a their own mic for ~$300.

Edit: The DR-40 comes with a 2GB memory card but you might want to upgrade it a little bit just in case. SD cards are pretty cheap now, though!

Edit Edit: You'll also want some stands, too... and these windscreens.

It might end up around like $300-$400 bucks. But when some of those Blues cost $100 per mic for the cheapest ones, it's kinda a good deal for all of the stuff you'll get. Also, if podcasting doesn't work out you now have all the equipment to start a karaoke bar.

I do this for my lil ghetto karaoke setup,
Get a cheap mixer, i personally use a behringer:

Premium 12-Input 2-Bus Mixer with XENYX Mic Preamps and British EQs https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B000J5Y282/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_pzeKDbHGTRSFM

Yeah, USD TO CAD $290 + (MP shipping) 40$.. I think that's how that price is made up... not sure if they tax it. the ETA shipping would be July 10th to 17th aka I think they ship it from the US.

also it's a great setup for my desktop, but I need to figure out how to have multiple inputs without buying a Reciever... I thought about getting a mixer but I'm nervous about noise..(Premium 12-Input 2-Bus Mixer with XENYX Mic Preamps and British EQs - https://www.amazon.ca/Premium-12-Input-2-Bus-Preamps-British/dp/B000J5Y282/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1498564571&sr=1-3&keywords=mixer)

I need input for a Macbook, DJ set & Desktop (DAC Aune t1 mk2)

Keep in mind with that mixer you have no real room for expansion. It only has two ports for XLR. Spend a little extra and go with this one if you're on a budget.

I honestly wouldn't use behringer for mixers after my personal experience with them. They make pretty decent mics (I've been using a set of these for years and have been very happy although I wouldn't discourage you from getting the mics you linked), but I had one of their mixers and it crapped out in less than a year. Maybe if you've got a stationary setup it will do better, but we're kind of a mobile operation and those mixers are not durable.

The RMX units should be used as an insert on the master channel. DJM mixers have the ability to insert hardware effects into the master channel, while the Xone 92 does not. I'm guessing that you had the RMX unit connected to your DJM750mk2 via the send and return jacks, and had the return type set to insert. This routes all of your audio through the RMX and you hear only the output of the RMX unit.

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When you connect the RMX to the Xone via the aux 2 output and return 2 input (the image you posted of your setup appears to be connected in this manner, but the diagram you linked shows the mix 2 output feeding the RMX unit. DO NOT CONNECT THE RMX UNIT AS DEPICTED IN THIS DIAGRAM, it will cause feedback), you are hearing both the original signal that goes into the RMX unit and the output of the RMX unit. This is why you are able to hear the sequencer/noise effects, but not filter effects. The filter effect is working, but you are still hearing the original signal so you don't notice any change.

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Try setting the aux 2 send on channel 4 to pre (by depressing the pre button under the aux 2 knob) and lowering channel 4's up fader. Now with the aux 2 knob on channel 4 turned up, you should hear the RMX unit working as you expect it to. This is because you are know only hearing the return channel.

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The proper way to use an RMX unit with a Xone 92 is to run your master output to the RMX unit and route the output of the RMX unit to your amplifier/speakers, not back into the Xone 92. The downside to this setup is your are not able to record the RMX unit via the record output of the Xone 92. In order to record your mix with the RMX effects, you would need a way to split the signal from the RMX to go to a recorder and the amplifier/speakers. Typically this is done with a second mixer (not a dj mixer, something like this).

I edited the main thing but its for just podcasting around a table so just strictly audio from mics.

From the above comment would this be a decent mixer then or should i go with the Q1202USB. Also those ADR2100 mics are dynamic correct? So these two mixers will be able to run them?

What you need is a board
BEHRINGER XENYX 1202 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000J5Y282/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_KgURAbGQA217A

3 mics

Monoprice Large Diaphragm Condenser Microphone - (600800) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AJHBVMU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_yhURAb1K08J02



3 mic arms


Neewer NW-35 Metal Suspension Boom Scissor Arm Stand with Built-in XLR Male to Female Cable, Shock Mount and Table Mounting Clamp (Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AK7SKL4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_.hURAb4CEZSSE

Some kind of pop filter too.


It’s a little more than what your budget was but this is all really cheap gear and you won’t need any sound proofing and your audio will be clean once you get settings all set up. I strongly recommend this as a starter build. I’ve been using a similar setup for years.