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As am I. Every time a remotely queer topic comes up, they get hordes of Hoteps and Ankheads trying to spit some myths about how "Africa never had homosexuality" and "it's a white invention."
Thankfully there are more than enough knowledgeable people that are willing to share information about the subject.
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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/mar/08/african-homosexuality-colonial-import-myth
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/sep/09/being-gay-african-history-homosexuality-christianity
http://www.jstor.org/stable/10.2979/africatoday.58.1.55?&seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents
https://www.amazon.com/Boy-Wives-Female-Husbands-Studies-Homosexualities/dp/0312238290
> You do know that the concept of "Nations" and countries in Most of Europe wasn't invented back then?
Ummm yeah. When I said they are more than 30 countries in Europe, I meant each one of these countries have their own unique history. Different tribes, empires and cities had different rules. Ofcourse the borders dont look the same today, that wasn\t my point. I was just saying Europe wasnt monolith. Each had different levels of tolerance, some more than others. But most still had heteronormative expectations of gay people.
I AM GAY. And honestly, expecting gay people to birth babies and engage in a heterosexual \public life\ IS STILL HETERONORMATIVE. Not all homophobia is killing gays or hating us. Expecting gays to fullfill heteronormative standards in society is still homophopbia. I\m sure a gay man asking the father of his male lover to take his sons hand in marriage would look down upon. Same if lesbians did the same.
Ancient Greece is my favourite civilization and I always quote them and speak fondly of them. They were definately progressive, speficially the Spartans. I\m just saying heteronormative standards still existed for gay people in Greek society. Ofcouse it wasn\t as bad as the Christian. But I never said they were worse.
My original opinion was simply >>>>> ||| Homophobia existed before Christianity. |||| I originally never made any mention criticizing the Greeks. You brought them up and I said it\s true that they were accepting of gay relations but they still expected gay people to abide by heterosexual formal life.
I know tons of examples of gay acceptance in cultures. I mean, in sub saharan Africa, there was a concept of sister
husbands and boy wife. http://www.amazon.com/Boy-Wives-Female-Husbands-Studies-Homosexualities/dp/0312238290. Its example of gay accpeting socities in pre colonial Africa, but I am also of African origin so I know that a couple of reigions and empires being accepting is not equal to EVERY African tribe being accepting. That is what I meant when I said \ they are more than 30 countries in Europe and Ancient Greece didn\t represent the values of ALL of continental Europe.
My point is that ... Humans will create a hierarchy based on anything. And Im just saying that Christianity didnt invent it. Its all politics. Im sure most people wouldnt have given a fuck about gays if they werent rewarded in social ways from being homophobic.
This article is about WW2 gay prisioners being discriminated by allies. Someone blamed Christian values for the gay prisioners being left behind. Meh, I dont entirely see it that way. USA was anti Nazi but still invited over nazis
to America to continue with their medical experiments. Humans are selfish and opportunistic, that trumps everything before Christian values.
Im just saying that the allies leaving gay prisioners behind wasnt the only fucked up thing they did... Human selfishness is the root of all evil. And the problems in Christianity exist because of it. That is what I meant when I said homophobia existed before Christianity.
Even the good side aka the allies, were still corrupt, because they were human with their own agenda.
My original point was never specifically about homophobia. It was about humanity in general. Some guy blamed it on Christianity and I responded to him saying that humans have always been fucked up