Reddit reviews Colloquial Irish: The Complete Course for Beginners (Colloquial Series) - Book & CDs

Prepare to be blown away.

Perhaps others can comment on how good the actual resources are. I haven't used many of them, except the grammar books.

Gaeilge!

So, this post is probably going to be long. Just bear with me.

If you want web resources, there's a few good things floating about out there. First is [Erin's Web] (http://www.erinsweb.com/gae_index.html). She offers lessons, which seem to be decent. I haven't used them, because I have the good fortune to have classes, but perusing them doesn't lead to any glaring errors. I would suggest you start there, as it also has the approximate English pronunciation equivalents.

If you want books, there's a few that could be helpful. [Briathra na Gaeilge] (http://www.litriocht.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=795) and [Leabhar Mór Bhriathra na Gaeilge] (http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6407961-leabhar-m-r-bhriathra-na-gaeilge) are excellent books for verbs. The first smaller, and has a smaller index, and is easy to carry around and study. The second is huge (Literally titled "Big Book of Irish Verbs"). It contains 112 sample conjugations, as well as a history of the language. On top of that, the index is near inexhaustible, contain over 3,000 verbs, along with their verbal noun, verbal adjective, and a reference to which one they are conjugated similar to.

For general grammar, you have several options. The one my school recommends is [Irish Grammar Book] (http://www.amazon.com/Irish-Grammar-Book-Nollaig-MacCongail/dp/1902420497/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1363504088&sr=8-1&keywords=irish+grammar+book) by Nollaig Mac Congáil. It's a good overview of the grammar. However, I would suggest the series of [Basic Irish] (http://www.amazon.com/Basic-Irish-Grammar-Workbook-Workbooks/dp/041541041X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1363504147&sr=8-1&keywords=basic+irish) and [Intermediate Irish] (http://www.amazon.com/Intermediate-Irish-Grammar-Workbook-Workbooks/dp/0415410428/ref=pd_sim_b_4) both by Nancy Stenson. They're part of Routledge's series (Essential Grammar, Comprehensive Grammar, etc.), and I really like how that series, as a whole, is laid out.

For nouns, there's [Irish Nouns: A Reference Guide] (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Irish-Nouns-Reference-Oxford-Linguistics/dp/0199213755/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1363504256&sr=8-1). This books is immense, and awesome. It contains a shit ton of nouns. And also a lot of verbal nouns as well as describing how to decline them and when to decline them. It's an amazing book. I wish I had a physical copy.

For courses, there's the simple [Teach Yourself Complete Irish] (http://www.amazon.com/Teach-Yourself-Complete-Irish-Audio/dp/0071758984/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1363504328&sr=8-1&keywords=teach+yourself+irish) and [Colloquial Irish] (http://www.amazon.com/Colloquial-Irish-Complete-Course-Beginners/dp/0415381304/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1363504346&sr=1-1&keywords=colloquial+irish), however one that's used a lot in Ireland is [Búntus Cainte] (http://www.amazon.com/Buntus-Cainte-Ceim-hAon-Edition/dp/1857910656/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1363504385&sr=8-1&keywords=buntus+cainte). There are three levels of it, if I'm not mistaken. There's also [Gaeilge Gan Stró] (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gaeilge-Gan-Stro-Beginners-Multimedia/dp/0956361447/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1363504420&sr=8-1). I haven't used it, but supposedly it's good.

There's also immersion courses, if you have the time and money. One is offered by [Oideas Gael] (http://www.oideas-gael.com/en/), in Donegal. [Another] (http://www.nuigalway.ie/acadamh/cursai/dianchursai_gaeilge/neachtrannaigh_irish.html) is offered in the town called Carraroe, by NUIG. It's the one I've done, and I prefer that dialect.

Which reminds me. That's another thing you're going to need to know: there are three main dialects, one for each province minus Leinster, and the standard official. A brief glance at the [Wikipedia] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_language) page will help explain some of the differences.

If you want to practice speaking, there's a Facebook group called [GaelSkype] (http://www.facebook.com/groups/GaelSkype/) which does Skype sessions. Don't worry; you don't have to show your face if you don't want to.

I forgot dictionaries! [Foclóir Gaeilge-Béarla] (http://www.amazon.com/Focloir-Gaeilge-Bearla-Irish-English-Dictionary-ODonaill/dp/1857910370/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1363505112&sr=8-9&keywords=irish+dictionary) is one of the most respected dictionaries out there, and most comprehensive. However, it only goes Irish -> English. [Foclóir Póca] (http://www.amazon.com/Focloir-Poca-English-Dictionary-Gaeilge/dp/0828817081/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1363505172&sr=8-1&keywords=focloir+p%C3%B3ca) is a smaller one (pocket dictionary), which goes both ways. Very useful! Then there's a few websites that help. [Irish Dictionary] (http://www.irishdictionary.ie/home) is a good one, though it can get really, really annoying at times. The same can be said about [Focal] (http://focal.ie/Home.aspx). It's more official, but is really only good for technical terms (like Libertarian, something I looked up the other day.). Google Translate can be helpful, if searching for one word, but I'd check around other places first. [An Focloír Beag] (http://193.1.97.44/focloir/) is a nice one as well, but it's solely in Irish. However, it will conjugate verbs for you, and can find the root based on any conjugation. There's also an [English-Irish] (http://www.amazon.com/English-Irish-Dictionary-Terminological-Additions-Corrections/dp/1857910354/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1368104543&sr=8-1&keywords=english-irish+dictionary) dictionary that is the equivalent of Foclóir Gaeilge-Béarla.

Whew! I think that should keep you covered. PM me if you have any more questions.

PS: [This] (http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/7577625/Irish_Gaelic_(Gaeilge) is an amazing torrent, if you're into that stuff. I personally like physical copes, but here ya go, and in no way advocate pirating.

Good on you!

Unfortunately, there's a lot of atrocious shite on the internet in terms of Irish language "learning" - so be careful. Sealbhach recommended Daltaí na Gaeilge. I second this - it's overall a good site, with some solid grammar review.

I recommend getting a solid beginner's text, preferably one with audio, because you really want to be able to speak the language. Try either Teach Yourself Irish by Diarmuid Ó Sé or Colloquial Irish by Thomas Ihde.

While you're doing this, watch some news programs and whatnot on TG4 (Tee-Gee-Ceathair). Even if you don't understand anything, make a point of listening as often as possible, so that you get used to the rhythm of the language, and how it should sound.

Finally, if you can, try to attend a course in the Gaeltacht. The Acadaimh in Carraroe has courses of varying levels of difficulty and length.

First of all, I'm thrilled that you're committed to continue learning Gaeilge! Like you, I picked mine up from the library also. I've actually had fairly good luck with libraries being willing to do an inter-library loan for materials not in their own system, so even if your local library doesn't have these discs for example, they may be able to acquire them from an affiliated library.


A quick note on the Pimsleur program. One thing you may have encountered is that Irish has a number of unique dialects which are not always mutually intelligible. If I recall correctly, the Pimsleur course exposes you to the Munster dialect (think, Cork for example). As a result, you'll learn Conas tánn tú? for "How are you?" as opposed to Cad é mar atá tú?, Cén chaoi a bhfuil tú?, or Conas atá tú?. Michael O Siadhail's 'Learning Irish' uses a dialect spoken in and around Connemara, for example, so you'll want to check beforehand if it makes a difference to you.


Now, personally I quite enjoy Michael O Siadhail's 'Learning Irish', but I'm hesitant to recommend it as a beginner's book. Routledge puts out the 'Colloquial Irish' CD/Book set focusing on the same dialect, but it's supposed to be a bit more accessible.


Have you seen any of the Living Language courses before? They recently updated their 'Living Language Irish' course. While I've heard good things about this one as an introductory course, I haven't used it, and thus cannot vouch for this one. At ~$35 though, the price certainly seems right. 'Teach Yourself Irish' is an old standby for a lot of folks too, but it might not be what you're looking for if you're primarily interested in speaking.


On the side, I suggest watching programming online via TG4's site. They have a good selection of shows across a wide variety of genres. Ros na Rún is a bit of a guilty pleasure of mine...


I haven't tried Rosetta Stone's Irish offering yet, primarily because it's still prohibitively expensive (at least for my tastes), but that's always an option as well. Is it the best? I cannot say, perhaps someone else here has tried it though and could offer their opinion.


Hopefully this helps somewhat. I've found the most frustrating aspect of trying to learn Irish to be the dearth of other students of the language, or even native speakers, near me. The Gaeilge subreddit is a help of course, and there are plenty of Gaeilgeoirí on the net these days, so hopefully if you stick with it you'll be able to eventually arrange some further speaking practice opportunities.


Go n-éirí an bóthar leat!