Reddit reviews Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus - CPU Cooler with 4 Direct Contact Heat Pipes (RR-B10-212P-G1)

As far as bang for your buck, I think the Hyper 212+ is a better buy. It's about two-thirds of the price of the Hyper 212 Evo and you'll only see a minimal benefit with the Evo (which is from the better fan, if I recall correctly).

You really can't go wrong with either cooler but if you're already over budget or need to save a few dollars somewhere, I'd say the 212+ is a better buy - especially if you're only doing some conservative overclocking.

This seems like the perfect excuse to upgrade to a Hyper 212.

Without question the Cooler Master Hyper 212+. You can get it for 30$, and there's simply nothing that can compete with it in value.

You can get a much better deal than that getting the parts yourself.

• 8 GB G.Skill Ripjaws = $44
  
• Cooler Master 912 Case = $50 microcenter
  
• XFX 750w Black Edition = $115 amazon ($120 - 40 MIR @ microcenter if you can find it)
  
• Cooler Master 212+ CPU cooler = $20
  
• Seagate Momentus XT 500GB SSD Hybrid - $90
  
• EVGA 560 ti = $215
  
• i5 2500k = 179.99 @ Microcenter
  
• ASRock P67 Ext 4 Gen 3 = 165-50 instant combo w/ 2500k = $115
  
  Total = $815 bux (before tax for in store items)
  
  edit: i put that list together real quick - you could probably find better deals for the video card if you look around. That's the exact same build I got except I went with the 560 ti 448. You dont need i7 either the 2500k = 2600k minus HT. 2500k is pretty much all the power you need for a kick ass machine.

Just a few suggestions here:

• HD 6950 2 GB for roughly the same price, which you can unlock to a HD 6970 relatively easily.
  
  
• You're probably better off just getting 2 of these, as it'll perform roughly as well as the Western Digital Caviar Black for a lower price, and the Seagate you chose is really mediocre. Also, you could even try to get an SSD and a relatively slow 2 TB HDD for storage. I don't know much about SSDs though, so I won't make any uninformed suggestions.
  
  
• That memory is extremely overpriced, and the differences between 1333, 1600, and 1866 (crazy..) are more or less negligible. Here's 4 GB of DDR3 1600 RAM for a good price.
  
  
• 850 watts is overkill unless you plan on Crossfiring two of the HD 6950s. If you're just gonna use one (which will perform admirably at 1920x1080), you're better off with a cheaper power supply >500 watts. This is a good power supply at a decent price after rebate.
  
  
• Here's a cheaper ~~23" monitor ~~better 23" monitor which should be just fine.
  
  
• Here's a cheaper wired mouse with very good ratings.
  
  
• Here's the same HAF 922 case, for cheaper and with free shipping. The only difference is that the case fan LED is red instead of blue.
  
  
• You really only need the six-core Phenom II if you mess around with multi-threaded applications a lot, and you would be better off going with a Core i5 or i7 in that situation anyway. That said, the Phenom II x6 is still a great CPU. If you feel like downgrading just a tad bit, a Phenom II x4 955 is still an amazing CPU, which can be overclocked easily to 3.7 GHz or higher. A recommended heatsink would be the Cooler Master Hyper 212+, which will guarantee low temperatures.
  
  EDIT: There's currently a pretty decent 5% off, with a $10 gift card deal, for the Phenom II x4 1090T.

Are you gonna liquid cool? I ask because that case is generally for liquid cooling. The airflow of that case it not that great. Here's another option, a lot better suited for air cooling: HAF X.

For CPU cooler, here's a pretty good one, the Hyper 212 Plus. It's not much more than the one you listed and it's regularly considered one of the best air coolers, especially for the price. If you can, try to pick up a 2nd 120 mm fan and do push/pull with it.

Also if you are doing serious heavy duty video editing, I'm always a proponent of getting as much RAM as you can. May want to think about getting the 16 gb kit.

Besides that it looks pretty good. Some might say it'd be better (and cheaper) to get 2 Samsung F3 1 tb drives and run it in RAID. Also there's people out there who might have some issue with the 590 card (either say it's overkill, or better to get two 580s) but I don't have a particularly strong stance on either position so I'll leave that to them.

Just a sidenote though, if you can afford to add it to your system, I'd highly recommend getting a SSD as a boot drive/program drive. It was the most noticeable change I ever got from a single component upgrade. I'd recommend at least a 128 gb if you're gonna put all your programs + windows on it. You could probably get away with 64 gb but you'd always have to be super frugal about space. My personal recommendation is the Crucial M4. Just make sure you update the firmware to revision 9 before you start installing anything on it (google it, it's super easy to do).

EDIT: Also was looking at your motherboard. From everything I could see, this Gigabyte board seems to be pretty much the same features wise and cheaper to boot.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor | Purchased For $178.88
CPU Cooler | Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler | Purchased For $22.99
Motherboard | Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard | $68.99 @ Newegg
Memory | Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory | Purchased For $37.00
Storage | Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $69.99 @ Newegg
Video Card | HIS Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card | $163.98 @ Newegg
Case | Rosewill REDBONE ATX Mid Tower Case | $44.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply | Cooler Master GX 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply | $29.99 @ Newegg
Keyboard | Rosewill RK-201 Wired Standard Keyboard | $5.99 @ Amazon
Other| 3Lue Red Mouse| $10.00
| | Total
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available. | $607.80
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-18 04:44 EDT-0400 |

Use Amazon Warehouse deals on the 8350 and the RAM.

8350 Warehouse Deal

XMS3 Warehouse Deal

3lue Mouse

Used 212+

Really, the rest of this build seems pretty self-explanatory. It's an 8350, man!

Also, this is a very nice motherboard. I have the 990FX version of it, and it has given me no problems whatsoever.

He does not have an AIO. He has traditional water cooling.

I'm just using a 25$ tower cooler with 4 heat pipes. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002G1YPH0

The Liquid Metal thermal paste was about the same price as the cooler itself. I did this back when Liquid Metal was pretty much unheard of and impossible to find. Back when people just started experimenting with deliding their CPUs. It made a 30c difference which is enough to beat traditional water cooling on a non-delided CPU.

My voltage is 1.05 to 1.28 depending on load. For some reason it crashes if I hit 1.3v so I can't take it higher even though I have cooling headroom. I don't think the mobo can supply power reliably as the Package begins to draw near 100W. Right now it pulls up to 84watts. Here are the stats over the last 5 days

http://i.imgur.com/ZaAsn3n.png

You may notice core #0 is 10-12C less than the others. This use to be the typical temp, and core #2 use to always be the coolest of the 4. I noticed this happened after I moved and knocked over the PC. I need to re-apply the Liquid metal but I prolly realistically will never get to it.

Also may notice that I'm not techincally at 4.4Ghz, my real scheme is 4 cores @ 43x, 3cores @ 44x with a 101ish mhz base clock for 4343Mhz full load and 4467Mhz partial load. I have to use this scheme because of my power draw limitation. I think my chip would have been able to go a lot faster otherwise.

92mm heatpipes are not nearly as effective as the 120mm ones. I would reccomend the hyper 212+

The Antec Neo Eco 620w is $40 right now on Newegg after rebate and a promo code. It doesn't come with an external power cable. But I reckon you can use that extra $25 to shop around for other cases or motherboards that have features you want but couldn't budget for :)

Edit: You can also swap that RAM for some PNY XLR8 with a nice rebate, and save yourself another $20.

That total of $45 will cover a Hyper 212 Plus CPU cooler (or you can shop around for other stuff as mentioned earlier).

If you can get it for $30 get the Hyper 212+: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002G1YPH0/?tag=pcpapi-20

Yeah I'd go with an Intel build at this price point as well. An i5-2400 at stock speeds still pretty handily beats even a 980, and I'm not sure you'd be able to close the gap by overclocking it a little more.

If you could fit a 2500k there wouldn't even be any contest, Intel would be the better cpu for sure.

Your questions:

• Should be enough to run BF3 on high and Skyrim on probably high/ultra
  
• I'm going to change this to a 2500k and a mobo that can overclock it
  
• 620w is definitely enough
  
• As long as you're willing to deal with having to ship it over internationally I don't think there's much of a problem; the most problem-prone parts would probably be.. the mobo or power supply? I don't really know tbh, the only one I would've worried about is the hard drive, but you only have an SSD in the build. I can't say if your case or monitor will come out in one piece though.
  
• I'll edit some changes in and I'll see what you think
  
  Edit: Here you go, a much much stronger cpu for only about $10 more.
  
  Part list permalink / Part price breakdown by merchant
  
  Type|Item|Price
  :----|:----|:----
  CPU | Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor | $179.99 @ Microcenter
  Motherboard | ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard | $122.86 @ Newegg
  Memory | Corsair 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory | $33.22 @ Amazon
  Hard Drive | Crucial M4 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk | $105.00 @ B&H
  Video Card | HIS Radeon HD 6870 1GB Video Card | $139.99 @ Newegg
  Case | Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case | $49.88 @ Amazon
  Power Supply | Silverstone 600W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply | $68.98 @ NCIX US
  Optical Drive | Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer | $19.99 @ Newegg
  Monitor | Acer S231HLbid 23.0" Monitor | $154.99 @ Amazon
  Operating System | Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) | $99.99 @ Newegg
  | | Total
  | Prices include shipping and discounts when available. | $974.89
  | Generated 2011-12-26 23:14 EST-0500 |
  
  Add in a cheap $20 cooler like this one: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002G1YPH0/?tag=pcpapi-20
  
  And for about $30 more, you get way more performance out of your build.

>i7 860

LGA 1156?

The Cooler Master Hyper 212+ is cheap ($20) yet highly functional. The downside is that it's massive and might interfere with sticks of RAM if they have large heatspreaders.

Edit: Seriously? Downvoted for suggesting the most popular cooler amongst /r/buildapc users?

For 20$ you should get a cooler master hyper 212+, it has a bigger fan (120mm vs. 92) and will easily allow you to reach the max "on air" overclock of that chip. The stock heatsink will easily allow 3.4 GHZ, possibly more. throw in a coolermaster 4 pack of 120mm case fans, put one on the other side of the hyper 212+, and three in the case. all your cooling needs taken care of for 30$ shipped

for 30$ you might as well get 2x4GB ram. these ones are great

the case and psu are good quality, though you can get the antec bp550w, which is modular, for 10$ more.

170$ for that video card seems pretty standard, with 140$ being even better if you get the rebate to come through.

Reading reviews of that mobo, it seems that the compatible ram list is pretty small, and ram issues seem to happen a lot to that board. in the 100$ range there are several am3+ mobo's which would fit your needs. I suggest going with one that has 2 pci-e x16 slots and runs them at (x16, x8) in crossfire or sli. the one you currently have is x16,x4 which will give less performance if you sli/crossfire down the road. if you don't think you'll crossfire, don't worry about that.

• 2500k £160
  
  
• Hyper 212+ £27
  
  
• GTX 580 3gb x2 £800
  
  
• Asus P67 £127
  
  
• OS £78
  
  
• Ripjaws RAM £42
  
  
• Obsidian 800d £200
  
  
• 800w PSU £93
  
  That should run BF3 on ultra 1080p 60fps, so yeah it'll shit on any game. If your friend wants to spend that much purely for gaming then a 2600k and more than 16GB of ram is a waste. If he goes with an SLI set-up with a high end video card I'd strongly recommend at least 2 monitors otherwise you're not utilizing all of the card/s power. If not get a monitor with a high resolution. Total = £1550 w/ shipping and any other minor adjustments. You can get him the 2600k and 16GB of ram but it's his loss not your's.
  
  Note: I priced it up on Amazon because they are a good maker of pricing for components in the UK, you could probably find some parts cheaper.
  
  Edit: add an SSD if you like, they aren't for everyone. Personally i'd go with a 60gb good make one and stick OS and most played games on it; a 240gb one IMO if a big waste of money. But, each to their own.

Most of the computer noise comes from what is called the CPU "heatsink" - a small fan on top of the very small processor. It is usually a VERY good idea to replace the heatsink for various reasons, but also decreases sound issues (as the fans are better, larger, better designed structure, etc.) Heatsinks depend on some part on what type of CPU/Processor you have. This is the one I have: CPU Heatsink for AMD edit: it should be noted that the linked heatsink is compatible with a large array of CPUs, just check if yours is there! =)

Sound can also be caused by your case (vents, insulation, set up, rattling, etc.), the amount and size of the fans (larger fans are quieter - less rotations, or whatever).

Also, when installing heatsinks - or anything else - just save yourself the trouble and google an installation video on youtube.

I ended up getting the Hyper 212 Plus because I read some reviews that said it was quieter than the Evo. I've never had an Evo, so I have no basis of comparison, but I just installed the Plus last night, and it was definitely quieter all day today than the stock cooler I took out of there.

On a separate but related note - I have a quad monitor setup, with 2 GPUs, 3770k, and WD Black, so my office gets pretty hot. The old fan I was using to cool the room was too loud for me to keep it on when having meetings on Skype. So I ordered a Vornado 660. On the lowest setting, it keeps me nice and cool, and is damn near silent, even from up close. So quiet in fact, that after I bought it, that's when I decided to replace the stock CPU cooler, as that was then the loudest thing in the room. So, I definitely recommend that Vornado - worth every penny.

pcpartpicker.com

So if you don't want to overclock, you can go with a much cheaper mobo. Sorry, no suggestions from me. I didn't research in non-OC parts.

If you want the hyper 101, you want the I version:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002G1YPH0/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B002G1YPH0&linkCode=as2&tag=logicaincrem-20

But most people reccomend the 212evo:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002G1YPH0/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B002G1YPH0&linkCode=as2&tag=logicaincrem-20

It seems that the 212 evo is superior for a small price increase. And the 101 you chose (the intel version) is only available from 3rd parties.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002G1YPH0/?t=slickdeals&ascsubtag=qCEoQkCwEeO95-ZWJb0cRAaGt7_0HZl3_0_0_0 The Hyper 212 Plus is on sale for $17 after mail in rebate. Not going to get anything that good for that cheap anywhere else.

...but I'd still get the EVO.

The best bang for the buck seems to be the Cooler Master Hyper 212 plus

Nice build.

He could always swap the CPU for the $110 FX-4100 and overclock the shit out of it. The compatible mobo would be $60. He could make that difference by not getting the DVD drive and just getting one later. He can then OC the FX-4100 quite far with the Hyper 212 and call it a day for a total of about $30 more at $815.

Hell, if he was really serious and wanted to destroy pretty much any game in existence, he'd drop the 6870 and pick up two HIS 6850's for $100 more (he'd have to grab this). He could make up that $100 difference by pirating windows (don't pretend nobody here does that) and then he'd be playing any game at ultra settings with no questions asked.

Looks pretty good to me. The only thing you really need to change is the RAM. What you have selected is 1.65V which Sandy Bridge doesn't like. Here's some cheaper similarly performing 1.5V RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226191

Also since you have the 2500K I'm guessing you're gonna OC, so you should tack on a 212 for cooling: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002G1YPH0/?tag=pcpapi-20

Also look to raserei's post for more suggestions. The only thing I disagree with is waiting for Ivy Bridge. Intel has been delaying the hell of out it for a while now. Also the Z68 mobo you have is cheap enough so downgrading to a P67 probably wouldn't be worth it.

What kind of heatsink and fan are on the CPU?

I have the same CPU - the stock heatsink and fan ended up getting really loud on me, but this fixed it.

The 2500k is admittedly not that great with the stock cooler, but you only need a $25 aftermarket one to bring it to those temperatures (load temperature was previously about 80 Celsius, versus ~50 with that cooler). $25 extra seems quite reasonable to me given how much I spent on the CPU, especially since the cooler will most likely last several generations.

The big heatsinks might be a problem when you install a cpu cooler.

The EVO was released later, that's why there are less reviews. It's a bit cheaper here.

The ssd is a regular drive. If it doesn't fit in your computer case, get a 2.5" to 3.5" adapter. Most people use them for their OS. What other kind of data did you want to copy?

gpus: buy the refurbished one at your own risk; there's a model with 2GB of vram in case you want to play your games on two monitors; the other two are identical but one of them has been pre-overclocked by the manufacturer.

ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231416&cm_re=8gb_ddr3-_-20-231-416-_-Product

mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130571&cm_re=c43-_-13-130-571-_-Product

cpu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070&cm_re=2600k-_-19-115-070-_-Product

cpu cooler: http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Sleeve-RR-B10-212P-G1/dp/B002G1YPH0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1304138452&sr=8-1

hdd: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152245&Tpk=2tb%20f4

ssd: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227550&cm_re=vertex_2-_-20-227-550-_-Product

PC Part Picker should do everything for you. They give you the option to filter by compatibility with the parts you already selected.

Since you're using an i5, any motherboard with an LGA1155 socket will be compatible. You should go for one with a p67 chipset.

This is a pretty popular CPU cooler.

I've got my Q6600 running at 50c max even in Bad Company 2 with a Hyper 212+ http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Sleeve-RR-B10-212P-G1/dp/B002G1YPH0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1309753465&sr=8-1
and 2 of these in a push pull http://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-Sleeve-Bearing-blades-FN121/dp/B000C1DXLU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1309753490&sr=8-1
I would actually get one of those fans to act as a rear exhaust also.

Motherboard: That will work just fine. I believe the quote you listed is telling you to buy an add-on card which connects to your motherboard through a PCI slot and gives you extra USB ports like this. That mothboard has 4 USB 2.0 ports and 2 USB 3.0 ports and your case has two front panel USB ports. This brigns your total USB ports up to 8. If you need more than 8 then you can buy an add-on card or back plate that attaches to the USB connections on the motherboard. The latter looks like this. The black thing obviously goes to the motherboard.

CPU: Depending on how much video editing you do you might be able to drop down to the 2500K. The 2600K will be better for video editing, but if you really need to save money and don't edit enough to justify the price increase then you can get the 2500K.

GPU: The 570 is pretty good and you would want to get an EVGA card because they have a lifetime warranty. You can also get the 6950 which is slightly worse (maybe 10% less FPS) but costs about $80 less.

Hard drive: Switch to the Samsung Spinpoint F3. It's cheaper, faster (the 6 Gb/s on the WD is crap, HDD can't even get up to 3 Gb/s), and more reliable. If you have extra money then get an SSD. One of the best upgrades you can give your computer. They are crazy fast

Everything else looks good. Make sure to get an aftermarket CPU cooler if you overclock. The Cooler Master Hyper 212+ is great.

What case do you have? If it is a large enough case, I would swap out that CPU cooler to something like the Hyper 212+ It'll save money and also perform a bit better.

you've got a good start, there are a couple of easy upgrades you could make to optimize your build.

you can upgrade your hard drive to a samsung f3 1TB for $5, and you could upgrade your graphics card to a GTX 560 for $20. both of those upgrades are worth it, and neither costs alot.

if you're planning on overclocking your 2500K, i would definitely add a CPU cooler like the Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus. even if you're not overclocking, it's a good upgrade to keep your system's temperature down.

Don't forget to get a optical drive, especially if you plan on installing your OS from a disc. this is a cheap read/write drive, however if you want to play blu-rays; you'll need something like this. but you won't be able to burn discs with that drive.

if you're looking to save some money, you won't need 8GB of RAM unless you plan on dealing with large/complex files. 4GB is plenty for gaming. if you're going to be doing heavy video/photo/vector/3D editing, then 8GB is worth it. However; RAM is cheap right now; 8GB is no longer unreasonable for average users.

If you want to connect to a wireless connection, you'll need an adapter

don't forget your peripherals! unless you already own them, you'll need a keyboard, mouse and monitor.

you'll also need an OS; newegg carries all versions of windows 7. they have a good deal on 64-bit home premium OEM. I don't recommend getting a 32-bit operating system, 64-bit systems can emulate a 32-bit OS to run any 32-bit applications you may need. it is possible to install apple software, but it is a legal gray area. consult /r/hackintosh for more information.

have fun building, let me know how it goes!

I would NEVER use the stock fan. Pick up the cooler master 212, which is great for overclocking, inexpensive and in general just an awesome addon to your computer.

If it wasn't for those raptors you'd be able to squeak by with a considerably less beefy power supply, but you'll probably be looking at this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371045

and the r/buildapc favorite

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Sleeve-RR-B10-212P-G1/dp/B002G1YPH0/

Edit: If you're feeling adventurous, you can oil the fan in your power supply:

http://www.dansdata.com/fanmaint.htm

I suggest using the mineral oil mentioned in the article. When you open a power supply though you need to be EXTREMELY careful, the big capacitors in a power supply hold a charge for a long time and can shock the life out of you.

If you're willing to pay 25 shipped for it, might as well just get it for $28, brand new

You say you're using a Storm Scout? A Hyper 212+ will fit in that case just fine:

http://i.imgur.com/c62QS.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/OPeWZ.jpg


Other than that, if you're looking for a low profile cooler for the same or less than the cost of the Hyper 212+, the Arctic Freezer 7 Pro Rev. 2 or Cooler Master Hyper TX3 should be fine. But considering the Hyper 212+ fits in the Scout, and it only costs $26 on Amazon, I'd say that's your best option.

You can save $5 by grabbing your mobo and OS together. Alternatively, buy it from Superbiiz along with your HDD and use the coupon code CHEERS to get $20 off the order.

Save yourself some more and grab the Hyper 212+ or Corsair A70. If you're buying your CPU from Newegg, grab the i5/A70 combo.

You can save yourself some money by grabbing a nice 8GB RAM kit and 6870 combo.

If you're dropping that much on a case, you might as well grab the nicer Antec P280.

Your PSU is overpriced. You can save money and get a better PSU with this FSP Aurum.

Lastly, if you really want to save some more, you can cut out the CD drive and install your OS with a flash drive.

If you're going with the 570, you might wana look into gtx 560 ti 448 core cards. One at ncix for $280. 560 448 is supposed to have similar performance as the 570.

Edit: noticed on another thread you can get the cooler for $20 at amazon

Are you planning on overclocking? If so, you should pick up a better CPU cooler. Many people around here like the Hyper 212+. For $20, you can get a 300-1200 mhz increase in your CPU speed.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002G1YPH0/?tag=pcpapi-20

Everything is compatible. I don't know much about that motherboard but it is gigabyte so that's respectable. The only thing you need to get is a cpu cooler. the cooler master 212 plus it the most popular around these parts.

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Sleeve-RR-B10-212P-G1/dp/B002G1YPH0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1322939673&sr=8-1

It could be a poor seal between the heatsink and CPU which would be alleviated by remounting the heatsink, although you would need to reapply some Thermal Compound. I would certainly consider a step up to the Cooler Master Hyper 212+, it is only $20 and will be a huge improvement.

Hey! Very nice build, congrats!

Also, you should have a look at the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus. I am building a setup similar to yours and for all your needs it will work flawlessly. Although the Liquid Coolers are also very attractive but there are always the inherent risks - such as the tube splitting and the liquid leaking, frying your beloved components in the process.

Wow, thanks a lot for that :) I'll be awaiting your review haha. Any major difference in this or this? I am planning on over clocking.

You won't be able to overclock with that motherboard you picked. You need a p67/z68 mobo like this.

You'll probably want an aftermarket CPU cooler, so I suggest this

For the SSD I suggest you get this

You picked a 5400RPM HDD, you want a 7200RPM like this if you need to store lots of files like pictures, movies, etc then get 1 7200rpm and 1 5400rpm.

Personally I'd go with a more cost effective SLI/Crossfire solution for your video card, the 580 is pretty bad when it comes to price/performance. You can get two 570's/6950's and it will cost about the same, if not less, and you will get much more performance.

Case is up to you, but I suggest something like the HAF912

And finally, your power supply is a bit overkill. At most, 750W is what you need if you take my advice and sli/crossfire 570s/6950s.

oh and the fan: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002G1YPH0/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

How old? I have a cooler I ordered for mine to find out it's incompatible. If you'll pay the shipping and 5 bucks it's yours. It's compatible with about anything. Except mine :(
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002G1YPH0/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

A cooler will help you squeeze a lot more power out of your CPU. And it'll still run at a nicer temp than with a stock one, and quieter.

For a cooler you should look into the EVO 212 air cooler . Its only around $27 and good quiet performance.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B002G1YPH0/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1383186647&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70

For fans the Corsair AF120 are some nice high airflow affordable quiet fans. http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B007RESGBC/ref=mp_s_a_1_9?qid=1383186731&sr=8-9&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70

As for cable management I recommend cable ties and in your case here maybe like a cable guard or shield that can cover them to make it look cleaner inside. But that case is pretty tight overall so your best bet is to just upgrade it when you got an extra cash around.

Watch this video for some tips on cable management in that case https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjeTO5TBWy8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

No, but I did buy a cooler master hyper evo 212 plus

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002G1YPH0/ref=oh_details_o02_s01_i00

i got to tell you now if your looking for something quiet you gotta build it all quiet. CPU Cooling, and the GPU. only noise my machine makes is starting up, the HDD is loud as fuck. But after about 20 seconds you cant even tell it's on.

I picked up this for my 8120.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002G1YPH0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Here is a link to the heat sink that i purchased. It should fit your mobo and case fine enough!

When applying the thermal paste to your processor, and generally when handling the processor, make sure to wear latex gloves.
First use a alcohol wipe to clean both surfaces, then place a dollop of thermal paste down and set the heatsink in place.

Remember, when stuck, there's a youtube video explaining how to do everything. Notably, corsair does a series on how to assemble a pc!

This is my parts which I built

Case : Cooler Master HAF 922

CPU : Intel Core i5-2500K

CPU Cooler : Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus

Mobo : GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD4-B3

Memory : Corsair Vengeance Blu 8 GB (2X4GB) PC3-12800 1600mHz DDR3 240-Pin SDRAM Dual Channel Memory Kit

HDD : Samsung Spinpoint F3 1 TB

GPU : EVGA GeForce GTX 570

PSU : Cooler Master GX Series 750W ATX

so i caved in. I always thought newegg had the best prices, isn't this cheaper on amazon for some reason? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002G1YPH0/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Direct-Contact-RR-B10-212P-G1/dp/B002G1YPH0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1346703831&sr=8-1&keywords=hyper+212

This is a good one

I have a stock cooler on my AMD 8350 and I want to replace the cooler/fan/whatever might be on top of the CPU.

What's the difference between this and this? Which one should I get? help pls

You only need a cooler if you're going to overclock. You can get this.

And as a response to your other question, if you want fast boot times and loading and your budget allows then go for it. The 830 is a great drive. Some people want to wait until the 840 comes out. Up to you.

Cooler Master make very popular CPU coolers and this one is on sale for ~$17 with a $10 rebate. It's a great deal for a good CPU cooler. You might be looking for something more intense, though...I'll leave this up as an option!

Of I didn't notice that this was 3770 (no K). So you don't need an aftermarket cooler. But if you do go with the K, then here you go

Good choice on the cpu. It is fantastic for gaming but you are paying for the K at the end.
You probably know already, but if you do not, intel's K series have an unlocked core multiplier meaning you can easily over clock them.

But in order to do so safely, you will need an aftermarket cooler. I suggest the CM-212 Plus. If you don't plan on the overclock, the locked core i5-2500 saves you a little bit.

I have that ram, and its great but if i did it again I would go with something like Crucial Ballistix which have better timings.

And finally, I would highly suggest the crucial m4 of Plextor m3 instead of the corsair.

EDIT: Here is my go-to $600USD list which might equate to around the price you are looking for.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i3-2120 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor | $116.99 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard | ASRock Z77 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard | $102.55 @ Newegg
Memory | Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory | $41.99 @ Amazon
Hard Drive | Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk | $118.99 @ eCost
Video Card | XFX Radeon HD 6870 2GB Video Card | $179.99 @ Newegg
Case | Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case | $49.99 @ SuperBiiz
Power Supply | Antec 450W ATX12V Power Supply | $34.98 @ Amazon
| | Total
| Prices include shipping and discounts when available. | $645.48

Get a 600 Watt Power Supply. It'll save you 50 quid.

Get the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus CPU cooler. 25 more quid saved.

With all that extra money, you can upgrade to a Radeon 7770 for about 35 quid more.

Also, you only need 8 GB of memory. 16 GB is overkill.

Other than those things, a great build.

I'm just now noticing it.. it irks me. Thinking of getting a cooler master cooler.
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Plus-RR-B10-212P-G1/dp/B002G1YPH0/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=3K9B0ND36LMZF&coliid=I3BF82C373UZ88

you can overclock a little on the stock fan, but it's not recommended.

You can just run it at stock for now and when you decide that you want more power, you can buy a $20-30 aftermarket CPU cooler (The coolermaster Hyper 212+ is the goto cheap cooler) and overclock it while getting lower temperatures and a quieter system.

If you want to get an nvidia card, the 560ti is a good card, but it's in the ~$220 price range. For single GPU setups, driver issues really aren't an issue and multi GPU setups tend to be more trouble than they're worth. I would stick to a card on the recommended list and ready why they recommend it over the competition.

Cooler Master Hyper 212. It's the most recommended cooler here. It's cheap and gets the job done.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002G1YPH0/?tag=pcpapi-20

You can save $5 by ordering it from Amazon, FYI.

For those who don't have a Fry's around them, Amazon has the 212+ for $24.99 + free shipping http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002G1YPH0/?tag=pcpapi-20

Yeah the case is kind of a bummer but I couldn't justify spending more $$ when it's mostly an aesthetic issue.

For CPU cooling I forgot to mention I got Cooler Master CPU Cooler

Liquid cooling is probably unnecessary. Here is a solid aftermarket cooler that practically everyone uses/recommends for a Sandy Bridge.

If you were willing to deal with a non-modular PSU you could shave off about $15. I wouldn't recommend a PSU less than 750 if you plan on Crossfire in the future, though.

I would probably recommend a different motherboard as well.

Optical Drive

Other than that, you appear to have all of the pieces you need.

Linky for the lazy people

This is a really nice cooler, and it's pretty cheap. A lot of people don't trust stock coolers. If it can keep the CPU cool, awesome, but I personally don't want to take the risk.

Just a note, coolers aren't designed around specific motherboards; they are designed to fit various CPU socket types.

The Cooler Master 212+ is a wonderful cooler for $30 that is often recommended around here. You can't go wrong with it.

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Sleeve-RR-B10-212P-G1/dp/B002G1YPH0

Cheap and Effective(probably more than the zalman) Also I have heard a lot about mounting issues with the zalman for i5's

Also, 850W power supply is overkill unless you plan Crossfire in the future. If you don't plan to crossfire 650W is fine.
Corsair TX 650
You could also look into getting an SSD at that price range.

After reading through some benchmarks for CPU scaling on skyrim, i'd say to go for an aftermarket CPU cooler and an overclock to squeeze the most out of your system.
A Hyper 212+ would work well for £26.75, putting you at £601.26 or the Hyper 212+ EVO for £28.05 leaving you at £602.59

On the other hand, BF3 is almost purely GPU load, and an overclock won't help much on that.

Sources:
CPU scaling for Skyrim
CPU scaling for BF3

• I love my Crucial M4 SSD, when installed properly it is well worth it. If anything I wold suggest you buy an even bigger M4. They are totally worth the extra money.
  
  
• You should buy a cheaper motherboard like others have stated.
  
  
• Even if you don't plan on overclocking your CPU I would suggest ditching the stock cooler that the i5 and i7 come with. They are really bad. Go for a Hyper 212+, 212 Evo, or a Sunbeam Twister 120.
  

I would go for the 212 plus.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002G1YPH0/?tag=pcpapi-20

Fan

PICS, PICS, PICS!!


Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor | 181.95-€ @ Mindfactory
CPU Cooler | Cooler Master Hyper 212+ | 26.80€ @ Amazon
Motherboard | ASRock Z68 EXTREME3 GEN3 | 105.94€ @ Mindfactory
Thermal Paste | Arctic Cooling MX-2 | 4.90€ @ Mindfactory
Memory | Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory | 39.99€ @ Mindfactory
Hard Drive | [Old HDD till the prices drop] | ~60.00+€ @ Mindfactory
Video Card | MSI Twin Froz III 6950 2 GB | 254.63€ @ Amazon
Case | Corsair Carbide 500R | 95.65€ @ Mindfactory
Power Supply | 700W Super Flower Golden Green 80+ Gold Modular | 103.11€ @ Mindfactory
Optical Drive | Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer | 16.30€ @ Mindfactory
||| Total:
| All in Germany || ~834.50€ + HDD

Oh great, I can get away with a 620W PSU? That card looks like it will fit what I'm doing perfectly.


For the air cooler, will a $20 fan cause any noise?

Thanks for your suggestions!

edit: Would this fan do well?

It's worth considering the 2500k instead of the 2600k for the processor in my opinion. I don't have enough knowledge about how much performance hyper threading gives you so I don't feel comfortable telling you not to get it but research it a bit. If the advantage isn't huge you can save about $80 going for the 2500k.

For RAM 8 GB should be enough but aim for 1600mhz. Source. As the article says I wouldn't try to get higher than 1600 mhz.

If you are planning on OCing get the cooler master hyper 212.

I always see this drive thrown around in builds, would be worth looking in to.

One of the best bang for the buck coolers out there: Hyper 212+

Will let you get a decent overclock in and isn't super expensive.

Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus certainly is popular around here. It dropped as low as around 15 bucks leading up to black Friday but no idea if that will come again soon. Kinda a hassle to apply thermal paste because of the grooves around pipes but its really only something you have to do once and there are a ton of guides.

This one is good if you want to go with air or you could go water cooling like this one if you want to OC a little farther. Either will be much better than stock and should get you over 4ghz.

Looks good. With the parts you already have, you can't really go wrong with the others.

An after-market CPU cooler is ALWAYS recommended when OC'ing. Personally I like this. But a lot of people will recommend this.

With the stock cooler on a 720, you should be able to clock up to around 3.2 from the stock 2.8 and maintain under 65C which is the highest you should hover around. I would recommend purchasing a light aftermarket cooler such as a Cooler Master Hyper 212+. Also, you are going to be overclocking your CPU in the bios.

Link:
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Sleeve-RR-B10-212P-G1/dp/B002G1YPH0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1319929968&sr=8-1

Instead of going water cooled have you looked at getting a better heatsink/fan?

If you are going to OC it always recommended to replace the stock cooler as it is not designed for that.

Good Cooler (fits haswell)

If around $20 is your budget, definitely go with the 212 Plus. It's pretty much the same as the EVO. Great cooler, great temps, quiet and has a $5 rebate!(Probably not worth it, but up to you.)

I'm looking to upgrade my CPU air cooler from the default crap intel stock one to a better after market one.

I have an i5-2500, and from this is what I was able to find with couple of minutes of research:

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Contact-Heatpipes-RR-T4-18PK-R1/dp/B00BSKY1M4/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1465150898&sr=1-1&keywords=Cooler+Master+Hyper+212+Plus+-+CPU+Cooler+with+4+Direct+Contact+Heatpipes

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Plus-RR-B10-212P-G1/dp/B002G1YPH0/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1465150898&sr=1-2&keywords=Cooler+Master+Hyper+212+Plus+-+CPU+Cooler+with+4+Direct+Contact+Heatpipes

I'm not sure which one to pick. If you guys have a better suggestion, let me hear it!

Also, what thermal paste and rubbing alcohol for removing paste would you guys recommend?