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u/darthrevan · 20 pointsr/newjersey

I'm undecided on wage increases, but we do need to be careful of logical fallacies here.

The first is the appeal to motive fallacy. The identity of who is funding the ad is irrelevant to deciding the truthfulness their claim. We need to look at the issue itself and see what the merits are on either side, regardless of who is presenting what side, because as Jamie Whyte put it in Crimes Against Logic:

>It is perfectly possible to have some interest in holding or expressing an opinion and for that opinion to be true.

The second is the Card & Kreuger example you cited. We have to be careful of making a hasty generalization. The Card & Kreuger findings by no means settled the issue. In fact, the very next section to the page you linked, which discusses the responses to that study, begins:

>In subsequent research, David Neumark and William Wascher attempted to verify Card and Krueger's results by using administrative payroll records from a sample of large fast food restaurant chains in order to verify employment. They found that the minimum wage increases were followed by decreases in employment.

So the effect of minimum wage increases on employment is still not definitively known, at least based on what I can gather from that Wiki page.

TL;DR: This issue, like most, is much more complicated than it may seem at first and we need to look at it carefully without resorting to hasty and fallacious thinking.

u/bloub · 5 pointsr/skeptic

Crimes against Logic, by Jamie Whyte. It's really clever and witty.

Edit : you can find a lot of his Times articles here. Be sure to check The five great fallacies and how to spot them.

u/Sarah-rah-rah · 5 pointsr/IAmA

Wow, you're absolutely terrible at debate.

What everyone is trying to explain to you that just because OP went around a few dangerous places and lived, that doesn't make these places safe. Hence, OP saying "you were all wrong!" is disingenuous because it's based on luck instead of actual crime stats.

A few resources for learning how to debate topics online: this book, this book, all of these.

u/[deleted] · 3 pointsr/IWantToLearn

Hi there. A few years back I wanted improve my logic skills as well. I recommend these books: Critical Thinking is like a full course on critical thinking and logic, along with assignments. If you want more specific examples of logic flaws in society, I recommend Crimes against Logic.

u/Aesir1 · 2 pointsr/atheism

The book itself is kind of entertaining and informative, but the title is pure hyperbole. I think marketing had more to do with the title than the author. I think it is supposed to be tongue-in-cheek. I certainly don't advocate the intentional use of logical fallacies for persuasion. For an excellent treatment of logical fallacies used in this way, I recommend Crimes Against Logic: Exposing the Bogus Arguments of Politicians, Priests, Journalists, and Other Serial Offenders.

u/wiltscores · 2 pointsr/books

Weston's A Rulebook for Arguments is clear and concise.

Heinrichs' Thank You for Arguing is more informal with lots of pop culture references.

Sagan's Demon Haunted World is a paean to science & critical thinking and Whyte's Crimes Against Logic is good as well

u/whyamiupthislate · 2 pointsr/skeptic

I found this book helpful http://www.amazon.com/Crimes-Against-Logic-Politicians-Journalists/dp/0071446435

It isn't terribly in-depth, but it helped my understand the mindset of thinking logically and seeing where fallacies lay, plus the author has a very good sense of humor which makes the book nice to read.

u/blowingmindssince93 · 1 pointr/logic

yeahhh i've been trying to do the same i've always been good at picking at fallacies within debates and arguments but never known the names and whatnot. i think my two favourite books i've read on it so far have been: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Crimes-Against-Logic-Politicians-Journalists/dp/0071446435/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=1OUX7ZNGSEQQY&coliid=I7NZTFCGW8PUC

and
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Fundamentals-Critical-Argumentation-Reasoning/dp/0521530202/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=1OUX7ZNGSEQQY&coliid=I2KQKKH9GW8FG2
managed to borrow both from my university library!

u/t-rexcellent · 1 pointr/atheism

find a little book called "Crimes Against Logic."

u/radical_heartbeat · 1 pointr/AskReddit

Crimes Against Logic. It's not a comprehensive primer on logic but this book highlights many common logical errors used today.

u/kgbdrop · 1 pointr/AskReddit

Philosophical:

u/kfphysics · 0 pointsr/atheism

>TL;DR If you don't agree with abortion, don't get one.



I completely agree with your sentiments, but I want to point out a bit of a logical fallacy many of us fall under when trying to argue with the religious. The problem is that things like abortion and gay marriage go against a Christian's fundamental set of beliefs, and they are taught not to abide by it in any capacity. Jaime Whyte does a better job of explaining it in his book "Crimes Against Logic." I think it's a book /r/atheism or /r/politics would enjoy.



http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0071446435