Reddit reviews CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme VR GXiVR8020A2 Desktop Gaming PC (Intel i5-7400 3.0GHz, AMD RX 480 4GB, 8GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB 7200RPM SATA III HDD, 802.11AC WIFI USB Adapter, Win 10 Home), Black - Discontinued with Manufacturer

I got this one: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01NBL8BER/ref=od_aui_detailpages01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
And I'm immensely pleased with it. Personal recommendation is find a prebuilt configuration from like Amazon or somewhere. Doing a custom build from them is more expensive than building it yourself, but a prebuilt is around the same. you get a solid keyboard and mouse from them too. I was on a budget of 1200, and I got a pretty shit monitor, but for the PC I run PUBG on Medium and Ghost Recon Wildlands on High both topping over 60fps. the only difference between mine and the one in the link is that I have an i5-7500 not an i7.

This just came an hour ago, lots of good reviews too. (have to have Prime though)

Not knowing your budget, this is a fairly decent machine that is hard to build for the cost (i5/RX480)

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXiVR8020A2-Desktop-i5-7400-802-11AC/dp/B01NBL8BER/

It should accomplish your goals at $720. I doubt you will find anything better at Bestbuy unless they are running something on cleareance. If you build I would recommend the r5 over the i5, but it is a decent machine and should accomplish your goals. It is a pretty decent gaming rig that will play most modern games at 60fps at high/ultra and should be able to do graphic design work without much issue. A r5 or i7 might do it a bit faster, but for most prebuilts they start jacking up the prices after that point.

I second this. Upgrading to a sub-$200 graphics card is the most cost effective way to go about this. FX 8350 won't be too much better than the i5 2300, and a $65 Pentium G4560 is almost a side-grade; no meaningful improvement.
If the friend REALLY wants new, consider this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NBL8BER/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=11413L9RV1HZK&coliid=I22HTJPFBR3522
a $720 pre-built form CyberpowerPC. Modern mid-range hardware that should outperform any aforementioned builds. If friend wants to build new: wait for AMD's new budget CPUs and go from there.

No, that is an abhorrent processor. The games that you're playing aren't that demanding in the first place, but you still shouldn't be buying a five year old processor just now. I would recommend either this Intel system or this AMD system which are similarly specced. I would personally recommend the latter because it has an r5 1400 and a 580. I don't know what mobo is in the last system so I'm not sure if you can oc the CPU or not. It's probably an A320 and not a B350.

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXiVR8020A2-Desktop-i5-7400-802-11AC/dp/B01NBL8BER/ref=pd_lpo_vtph_147_bs_t_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=XR0C038Z2GPVGM0G4Q62

$640 bucks, add this current amazon rift daily deal as well, and you're looking at a total under 1,000.

How much does a playstation cost? This rift deal is almost putting it in range of buying a playstation and PSVR bundle I would think.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor | $78.89 @ B&H
Motherboard | MSI - B250M PRO-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | $63.88 @ OutletPC
Memory | Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory | $66.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $104.33 @ OutletPC
Storage | Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $47.79 @ OutletPC
Video Card | EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB GAMING Video Card | $224.98 @ Newegg
Case | Deepcool - TESSERACT WH ATX Mid Tower Case | $27.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply | Corsair - CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply | $26.99 @ Newegg
Operating System | Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit | $89.89 @ OutletPC
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $761.73
| Mail-in rebates | -$30.00
| Total | $731.73
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-10 19:55 EDT-0400 |

I also would look at this. Just add ssd.

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXiVR8020A2-Desktop-i5-7400-802-11AC/dp/B01NBL8BER

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01NBL8BER/ref=psdcmw_13896597011_t2_B01NBLH6JF This plus a freesync monitor would be a great set up

I bought this recently and it runs the game really well. Only $720

Edit Messed up the link


[CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme VR GXiVR8020A2 Desktop Gaming PC (Intel i5-7400 3.0GHz, AMD RX 480 4GB, 8GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB 7200RPM SATA III HDD, 802.11AC WIFI USB Adapter, Win 10 Home), Black] (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NBL8BER)


Review here [CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme VR GXiVR8020A2 $720 Gaming PC Review Lon.tv] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMS58ksRB-A&feature=youtu.be)

There's a subreddit /r/suggestmeapc for this. But anyways my sister was in the same boat because she was too afraid to learn how to build a PC for fear of breaking a part, and also because she lives across the country so I can't do it for her.

She ended up getting this PC

CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme VR GXiVR8020A2 Desktop Gaming PC (Intel i5-7400 3.0GHz, AMD RX 480 4GB, 8GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB 7200RPM SATA III HDD, 802.11AC WIF https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NBL8BER/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_nJ2yKmDdjDpAK

Pretty good for the price if I do say so myself. I visited her and checked it out and it was a pretty nice PC, only thing you'd really have to do is switch the power supply out because Cyberpower PC is known for some ass PSUs. Comes with an alright mouse and keyboard too.

This is a much better deal for only $40 more. But you're right, that's on the better end of the pre-built category.

You would need to upgrade everything on that tower (with the possible exception of storage) to effectively do VR. If you are looking to spend that much on a prebuilt, though, this CyberPowerPC is a much better deal for the money due to the i5-7400 and better upgrade path.

Get this CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme VR GXiVR8020A2 Desktop Gaming PC and this ASUS VS228H-P 1080p monitor. With a powerful Intel i5-7400 3.0GHz processor, solid AMD RX 480 4GB graphics card, 8GB DDR4 RAM and 1TB 7200RPM HDD, this PC will run Civ VI and even more powerful games, very well.

This one might be more up your street u/AUTplayed https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXiVR8020A2-Desktop-i5-7400-802-11AC/dp/B01NBL8BER/ref=pd_sbs_147_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01NBL8BER&pd_rd_r=4G47E1F33WTM8G58CKKN&pd_rd_w=TH9mR&pd_rd_wg=mYJrX&psc=1&refRID=4G47E1F33WTM8G58CKKN

Dropping in a new graphics card is pretty simple, and hard to mess up. I understand not wanting to bother, but I generally encourage everyone to give it a try.

If not, that's fine. I would suggest this system, as a solid, pre-built gaming computer.

That PC is not a great deal at all. It would be cheaper and would deliver better performance if you built the PC from individual components. Something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD - Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor | $176.99 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard | MSI - B350M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard | $79.99 @ Amazon
Memory | G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory | $60.98 @ Newegg
Storage | Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $48.44 @ OutletPC
Video Card | Asus - Radeon RX 580 8GB ROG STRIX Video Card | $280.98 @ Directron
Case | Corsair - 100R ATX Mid Tower Case | $44.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply | EVGA - 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply | $36.88 @ OutletPC
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $749.24
| Mail-in rebates | -$20.00
| Total | $729.24
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-25 18:41 EDT-0400 |

You'd be looking for a GTX 1060 6GB or RX 580/RX 480 GPU. The reason I say that because there's a shortage now and it might be difficult to find a mid-range GPU for a decent price.

Otherwise if you're completely against building it yourself this would way better then the one you're looking at.

I recommend

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXiVR8020A2-Desktop-i5-7400-802-11AC/dp/B01NBL8BER/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1497582397&sr=1-3&keywords=gaming+computer

get the oculus rift headset on sale(or ebay)

That said I saw some pre-built PC on amazon that came with RX 480 and pretty good CPU and 8GB RAM that was $800 or something and that's still better than mine (the CPU wasn't maybe quite as good as my i5 but definitely good enough)

edit: I think it was this https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXiVR8020A2-Desktop-i5-7400-802-11AC/dp/B01NBL8BER/ref=lp_8588811011_1_5?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1497313584&sr=1-5

I assume you don't want to build it yourself. If so, I would recommend trying to find a good prebuilt, esp since with the graphics card shortage you will have a difficult time finding a standalone mid-ranged card.

Some options: https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXiVR8020A2-Desktop-i5-7400-802-11AC/dp/B01NBL8BER/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1499701908&sr=1-2&keywords=gaming+desktop

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXi10200A-Desktop-i7-7700-7200RPM/dp/B00IMOND82/ref=sr_1_11?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1499701908&sr=1-11&keywords=gaming+desktop

https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-AM002i-Desktop-Gaming-PC/dp/B01N2RLS05/ref=sr_1_20?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1499701908&sr=1-20&keywords=gaming+desktop

http://www.microcenter.com/product/471280/Aspire_AT3-715A-UR11_Desktop_Computer

http://www.microcenter.com/product/473972/IdeaCentre_710-25_Desktop_Computer

BEST DEAL: http://www.microcenter.com/product/475437/G314_Desktop_Computer

http://www.microcenter.com/product/474127/G221_Desktop_Computer

http://www.microcenter.com/product/474288/G151_Desktop_Computer

I guess $1100 was a deal and not a constant thing.

You can still pick up an Oculus Ready PC for $799 from Cyberpower (say what you will about the brand, this is certainly a product that exists and is $799), making the whole thing $1200 for a competent VR setup.

That's not too shabby. Still expensive, but it's cheaper than most Macbooks, or anything from the Microsoft Surface line, or any premium computer product.

This is a pretty good system and comes with mouse and keyboard CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme VR GXiVR8020A2 Desktop Gaming PC (Intel i5-7400 3.0GHz, AMD RX 480 4GB, 8GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB 7200RPM SATA III HDD, 802.11AC WIFI USB Adapter, Win 10 Home), Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NBL8BER/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_vRBkzbAKSCDT9

I have the same graphics card and you can 60fps or more at 1080p in all games current games

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Wanting to upgrade my PC that I purchased pre-built. Here is a link to the computer a bought. Planning on upgrading the RAM, adding another HDD or SSD, and maybe the fans. Any recommendations?

Thats my pc here

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B01NBL8BER/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Is there such a cable on the market ?

Thanks bud uv been a huge help

Only found 1 decent build on Amazon/newegg.

[Amazon link] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01NBL8BER/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1496187229&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=gaming+pc&dpPl=1&dpID=511WRjswCuL&ref=plSrch)

As the other user suggested, you could get one of companies to build a pc for you with you selecting the parts. This would be the best way.

Since I don't live in US, I am not sure what store do it

Thank you! I'm going to get this one I think

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B01NBL8BER/ref=olpOffersSuppressed?ie=UTF8&overridePriceSuppression=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01NBL8BER/ref=s9_acss_bw_cg_PCACDTCE_2e1_w?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=unified-hybrid-3&pf_rd_r=ZP4NFZ3Z5MMM8KBESZX4&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=533d7f1e-16af-4797-823f-36bec33a2731&pf_rd_i=565098

Can't speak for quality or performance, but I bought this one yesterday from Amazon when I ordered my Oculus. As a plus, it is on sale today for $639.99

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01NBL8BER/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01NBL8BER/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

If you can snag the Amazon deal with the $100 gift card this will put it under a grand.

I just finished defragging. Wont know if it helps till i play agina later tonight or tomorrow. I couldn't find the exact page from the sellers website but i did find the amazon page to it, it has a 7200 rpm disk drive. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01NBL8BER/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

This one is hard to beat for specs and price.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01NBL8BER/ref=s9_acsd_hps_bw_c_x_1_w

The only questionable component is the power supply. It's a high Power unit. Some units get good reviews other don't. None of the reviews scream avoid though. Granted getting a nicer fully modular one later is an option

Secondly its lacking an SSD not a killer for a lot of people, but it is for me.

A review of the skylake version here

http://www.legitreviews.com/cyberpowerpc-gamer-xtreme-vr-pc-review-gxivr8020a_184769

what do you think about this?

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXiVR8020A2-Desktop-i5-7400-802-11AC/product-reviews/B01NBL8BER/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_show_all_btm?ie=UTF8&reviewerType=avp_only_reviews&sortBy=recent

Seems to have alot of the same components as your first link no?

Im looking for a new case fan for my computer and not sure what to get. Will This fan work? Thanks

Not too bad, this one has a better CPU and GPU but, no SSD but 16GB of intel optane memory which will make the big HDD faster.


I also saw this on amazon.ca that has the same CPU, a a better GPU and no SSD for $939, if you click the options at the bottom it will give you the option for an identically specced PC as the one you linked for $50 less in a nicer looking case.

I can try to look into the debug logs, but I'm not even sure how, and don't pretend to be terribly PC literate.

But yes, I definitely get a third screen some distance to my right that shows only my Desktop wallpaper. Not the desktop, mind you, which is obviously what the normal screen(s) should be showing, and do. No, it's just the Wallpaper with nothing on it. It's not the existence of this buggy screen that troubles me; it's that it corresponds 1:1 with the app failure (the failure, specifically, that manifests itself as a like 1 to 3fps framerate on the 1 or 2 normal screens).

Regarding specs and all, here is the PC I've got, purchased specifically for use with the Rift.

Here's a really good prebuilt system at this price point.

If you want a pre built PC this is a better choice. [Amazon](http://www.CYBERPOWERPC.com/ Gamer Xtreme VR GXiVR8020A2 Desktop Gaming PC (Intel i5-7400 3.0GHz, AMD RX 480 4GB, 8GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB 7200RPM SATA III HDD, 802.11AC WIFI USB Adapter, Win 10 Home), Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NBL8BER/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_.ET6ybJKXEPDE)

My brother has this pre built pc:
CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme VR GXiVR8020A2 Desktop Gaming PC (Intel i5-7400 3.0GHz, AMD RX 480 4GB, 8GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB 7200RPM SATA III HDD, 802.11AC WIFI USB Adapter, Win 10 Home), Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NBL8BER/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_qVd9ybCCV4JDC

It can run VR. Not saying buy this but you can use it to compare

This one seems to be within your budget and would run Siege no problem. Other people here might have better options.

Generally speaking, yes, it is better to go custom and pick everything out yourself. You save money, know everything thats going in your system, and have knowledge and experience of how a pc works. All this past week i've been in the process of figuring parts for my build as well. However, I did come across this really nice/affordable pre-built PC that can easily be confused with a custom build. If i wasn't already commited to building my PC
I would go for that one easy. Check it out Here and Here.

If you still want to custom build i recommend reading through the PC MasterRace builds page and start from there.

Lastly, I'll link my own builds that im considering. They're around the same price range you mentioned. Intel i5-7500 // AMD Ryzen 1500X

Check out Amazon, the CyberpowerPCs aren't too terrible for their price, it's not as cheap as building your own but they're not so bad.

This one looks pretty decent, but there are cheaper models if you still need to squeeze in the cost of a monitor.

I would say there is a sweet spot for performance with every price tier.
I would recommend building with an AMD 570 or 580 as your GPU. at 1080P they are extremely powerful cards for the money and in comparison to the lower priced cards, there is a HUGE performance jump when you get a 570 or higher ( Nvidia 1060 is good too but i feel like you are currently getting more for your money with AMD).


If you go below a 570 you are going to have to cut corners on gfx settings in everything and in the long term you won't feel like your money went as far.


So that GPU is around 180ish bucks and a 580 4gigabyte version is only 210. SO its worth the 30 bucks, bigtime. You can max out pretty much every single game at 1080p 60fps. The 480 is almost the exact same card.


On the CPU front it's going to be a hard choice. Dayz loves faster cores so Intel is def faster, but that comes at a decent cost. If we are talking about the lower tier of CPUs ( sub 200 bucks) the i5's are not overclockable so AMD kinda wins here to IMO. A 1500x or 1400 can be had for 170-190 bucks, they are overclockable and have a decent stock cooler. The intel parts will always need a cooler if you buy one you can OC. I would ALWAYS purchase an overclockable CPU. The return on your investment is worth it.


Above all DO NOT BUY FX series AMD cpus. A cheap I3 will better in most cases.

A B350 ryzen support motherboard is 100 bucks. Would recommend picking one with good onboard sound though.

8 gigs of Ram 60$ is all you need.

50$ for a 1TB hard drive

CASE 50$ bucks and 35$ PSU (get at least a 500w) and you are set.


https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NBL8BER/ref=psdc_13896597011_t1_B01M3UKNVD

This PC is pre built and honestly is a way better value. I feel like this is the sweet spot, you will totally feel like you have a beast rig and not just something that works. It's like 200 bucks more but the difference in performance and longevity is massive. It is also above the minimum spec for VR! This MB and CPU are not capable of overclocking but it is a very strong CPU and won't bottle neck the GPU at all.


If you built it yourself you would be around 700$ish. That Prebuilt is perfect for someone like you. I personally always build it myself since it was surprisingly easy once I learned. If you know someone that could help you IRL then totally build yourself. Otherwise get the PC i linked man. It's going to make your money go so much further.

Above all DONT GET FX amd cpus. You will feel the inadequacy immediately. You can go cheap on the GPU if it is at least a 460 (560) or 1050ti (950, 750ti). That can be easily upgraded later. DO NOT buy any GPUs lower than the ones i mentioned.

Remember that you can plug this PC into your TV. All new flat panel TV's are essentially PC monitors with higher latency. That could save you a good bit of funds till later. I play on a 46 inch in a recliner with a wireless g700s mouse and keyboard. I had to do some research to buy the right TV to get low enough latency, but you can make do with the TV you play consoles on, especially since steam has big picture mode.

I have almost the same level of rig as the prebuilt and i get 60+ fps on high setting 90% of the time. Only in major cites does it drop and it is only around 50fps then. So Dayz looks awesome and is smooth as silk. Heck i play witcher 3, DOOM, and Battlefield 1 on ultra and stay at 60 fps 90% of the time.

If you drop down to the PC you linked you will play on the lowest settings and it will dip into the 30fps range in cites or lower. The difference in how the game feels between the two PC's is like night and day.

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXiVR8020A2-Desktop-i5-7400-802-11AC/dp/B01NBL8BER/ref=sr_1_4?s=prime-day&psr=PDAY&ie=UTF8&qid=1499760076&sr=1-4&keywords=desktop

This appears to be a great deal but you'll have to buy today. Otherwise you could build your own, which is fun as hell!

Just doing a 'VR Ready' search on amazon the cheapest you get is 620-680, with a mechanical drive and 8 gb of ram and no monitor by CyberPower.
I think you are under estimating the DLC's... Valkyrie is 40 bucks whatever... the DLCs add a couple extra hundred with Valkyrie KNOWN for P2W micro transactions as well.
Computer: https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXiVR8020A2-Desktop-i5-7400-802-11AC/dp/B01NBL8BER/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1500241330&sr=8-2&keywords=vr+ready

https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/5mwrgx/angry_joe_show_names_eve_valkyrie_one_of_the/

Hey. It turns out he wants a prebuilt instead of building it.

I am wondering if I was buying a prebuilt gaming computer, would it run fine for his stock trading? He might do two monitors at most in the future.

This is the one

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXiVR8020A2-Desktop-i5-7400-7200RPM/dp/B01NBL8BER/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1488250947&sr=8-4&keywords=cyberpowerpc

This one is worlds better for $10 more: https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXiVR8020A2-Desktop-i5-7400-7200RPM/dp/B01NBL8BER/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1488250947&sr=8-4&keywords=cyberpowerpc

AMD RX 480 4GB

My PC is the exact same model as this CyberpowerPC but w/ the last gen i5-6400 Skylake CPU
https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXiVR8020A2-Desktop-i5-7400-7200RPM/dp/B01NBL8BER

What are you thoughts on buying a rebuilt PC like this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NBL8BER/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_dp_T1_84Xnzb718KQNA

It includes:

Intel i5-7400 3.0GHz

AMD RX 480 4GB

8GB DDR4 RAM

1TB 7200RPM SATA III HDD

802.11AC WIFI USB Adapter

Win 10 Home

Would it be cheaper to buy a prebuilt machine and just upgrade it? What works best on a budget?

i can give a bronze lining and say its not huge bad thing.

1. If xbox were to have good vr (rift/psvr/vive quality) they would need to limit it to XOX. So the current potential player base of microsoft vr is 0. In contrast millions of users had the PS4 when the psvr came out and didn't need to buy a new console and a headset in one swoop (though some did upgrade to ps4 pro, myself included)
   
   
2. $500 for the xox vs $700 for a pc that can run rift assuming that microsoft would go with rift rather than making their own in house vr headset. a $200 difference seems silly, especially considering you expect people to buy both at once.
   
   
3. They have been pushing for augmented reality glasses rather than VR for the last couple years. Sony went with VR. I think one is better for gaming, and its a poor gambit by microsoft to hope that AR is the future of gaming. It is probably the future of things like smartphones and cameras though.

This? CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme VR GXiVR8020A2 Desktop Gaming PC (Intel i5-7400 3.0GHz, AMD RX 480 4GB, 8GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB 7200RPM SATA III HDD, 802.11AC WIFI USB Adapter, Win 10 Home), Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NBL8BER/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_K8TszbP6XGNF2

Something like this ?

I don't know much about computers honestly I just bought this pre build

CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme VR GXiVR8020A2 Desktop Gaming PC (Intel i5-7400 3.0GHz, AMD RX 480 4GB, 8GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB 7200RPM SATA III HDD, 802.11AC WIF https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NBL8BER/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_fM7p8rcoqFfOj

It could be your in game render settings though google what you should set them to to maximize fps

Yes. But this is better:
https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXiVR8020A2-Desktop-i5-7400-802-11AC/dp/B01NBL8BER/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1497896487&sr=8-1&keywords=cyberpowerpc

Edit: It's not better. It's about the same, just an alternative. This one comes with mouse and keyboard. Either get this cyberpower or the 580 version of what you had. Both are good for prebuilts.

I got you fam: https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXiVR8020A2-Desktop-i5-7400-7200RPM/dp/B01NBL8BER/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1486252217&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=i5%2B6502%2Brx%2B480%2Bcyberpower&th=1
Not amazing but for the price it allows for a decent amount of expandibility.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NBL8BER/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t.nzzb54PP3CQ


Well under $1000 an it will play all your games.

Thanks for the kind words.

With the caveats that I haven't gone through Prime Day in detail and that we don't really know how Destiny 2 will run, I'll give some recommendations that I'd give to my friends. I'm assuming you want to game at 1080p and that you already have a monitor to do so.

This CyberPower deal seems to be pretty good. You'd have a hard-time DIYing one at that price. The RX 480 would be better if it were 8 GB than 4 GB, but at 1080p it's not that big of a deal.

Similar type of deal for this other CyberPower prebuilt. In general, we'd rank it as a 1080p60 system. The CPU is going to hold up much longer, and the GPU is another 4 GB, but it's the slightly better RX 580 vs the RX 480 in the other one. The GPU will be what ultimately holds you back, but assuming Destiny 2 is anything like the other 2017 releases, it should be able to handle it.

To get technical, both the RX 580 and 480 GPUs average just below 60 fps in Watch Dogs 2 at Very High settings (what we'd call an Open World game). WD2 is one of the most demanding games out there, due to the huge environments and large amount of simulation required. I'm skeptical Destiny 2 will be as demanding at Watch Dogs 2. If it performs more like a FPS than an Open World game, it's going to be hitting well above 60 - like 80-100+ fps based on the way those cards handle pure FPS games. I don't know definitively for Destiny 2, but I'd recommend either as a 1080p60 rig.

Ah, I misunderstood your original post. I thought you already had a system in mind to purchase and only needed advice on the monitor/monitors.

If you have Prime and can stretch your tower budget a bit, this isn't a horrible deal. Similarly, this one is stronger, but greatly eats into your monitor budget.

For monitors, you're looking at:

1 - Basic 1080p 60Hz monitor. Only real negative to it is the port options (VGA or DVI only).

2 - Refurbished, but alright.

3 - IPS panel, so better color accuracy than the others.

4 - Larger and has Freesync (75Hz refresh rate).

EDIT: Just reread your original post and noticed you specified LCD for the monitor type. Is that a 100% must-have or is LED okay too? I'll need to revise my monitor list if it's a must-have.

Ok so If I shortened it to https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXiVR8020A2-Desktop-i5-7400-802-11AC/dp/B01NBL8BER/ can I repost it?

For 800$ you could built a really good pc.

As a prebuild maybe this:

[this!]
(https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXiVR8020A2-Desktop-i5-7400-802-11AC/dp/B01NBL8BER/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1491688289&sr=1-3&keywords=gaming+pc)

OP lives in US and you can get these exact parts in a prebuilt for $720 and it comes with keyboard+mouse/parts and labor warranty.

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXiVR8020A2-Desktop-i5-7400-802-11AC/dp/B01NBL8BER/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1493154980&sr=1-3&keywords=cyberpowerpc

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXiVR8020A2-Desktop-i5-7400-802-11AC/dp/B01NBL8BER/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1493178061&sr=8-1&keywords=cyberpower+pc

This one is perfect for 1080p but 1440p would be a stretch, should be doable though.

I'm not so bright when it comes to building PC's, so my first one I'm going for is going to be a pre-built PC. I've heard nothing but great things for this rig Here . It's pretty cheap for a good system and has plenty of room for upgrading in the near future. I'm going to primarily play on PS4 with friends, but I MUST try this game on PC.