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u/[deleted] · 3 pointsr/AskHistorians

And here is a full-length study on an African culture that idolizes obesity - I had to read it for an anthropology course, and it's pretty interesting.

u/Person_On_The_Web · 1 pointr/rant

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>nope - don't care about the feelings of the crappy parents. i care about the wellbeing of the children they're foolishly sending into harms way.

So then what are the options for a parent trapped in bad area, impoverished and with little hope for getting better for their children? You like to disagree with bits and pieces of what I'm saying and disregard the stuff you don't feel like thinking about. Go back and read what I said, don't just gloss over it for parts you think you can respond to. I specifically mentioned that the parents I an referring to have little to no choice in sending their kids away, it's the best they CAN do in some cases and if you don't respect that you have no right to speak to what kinds of parents they are.

>in that SPECIFIC instance, he's correct - but not correct in how he chose to interpret and act on it. equality is an illusion - every person is greater in some things, lesser in others. some people have beauty, some have brains, some have money, and some have influence. people at the bottom of the barrel typically have none of the above, and so have to rely instead on hard work.

No, he isn't correct though and neither are you. The Nazi ideology you've chosen to adopt here is rooted in a presumption about the natural state of things that has no basis in science. Yes humans are naturally competitive, but we are also biologically and naturally communal and you can find examples of that in nature now. There's nothing to suggest we cannot be entirely communal and equal in all things of material substance. Sure not everyone is "beautiful" as you say but that depends on the person you're talking to. In some cultures fat is seen as ugly whilst in others it's seen as beautiful. Actually I recommend the ethnography called Feeding Desire by Rebecca Popenoe if you want to learn more about this dynamic in the Saharan people Azawagh Arabs.

Equality is not an illusion, some anthropological work shows the existence of "aggressively egalitarian" societies. It's not only possible, it's a total reality and had happened all over the planet. What you believe about the sort of neo-Darwinian animal nature of people or their basic qualities is all entirely subjective and rooted in YOUR historical education, which was created by people like you who didn't fully understand the depth and complexity of different human cultures. There are differences but the adjectives you mentioned "greater" "lesser" "beauty" "brains" "influence" those are all entirely subjective to the people who are subject to this person. Money isn't subjective, but as we've discussed money is given by opportunity and is thus not something that describes a type of person but a state of being.

Hard work is not all there is to making opportunities for ones self, it just isn't. I can give you a plain example, New York Firefighters and EMTS and Officers until just recently were fighting for years for basic health care costs for the damages of 9/11. Now you tell me who works harder and is more dedicated to their job than first responders? You want to tell me why it took a social media crusade by one of the most popular late night comedians and thousands of people reaching out in advocacy for them before congress got their ass into gear and stepped up to help them? You wanna tell me why we need social media blowhorns to get people to pay attention to basic needs of the people? It's because people sit back and pretend everyone else just isn't working "hard enough" to get the lucky break they need. Nah, not the case.

We live in a country where it is impossible for some people to get ahead, even if they work their fingers to the bones, even if they die doing their job their families have to fight medical bills and tax collectors. That's so unamerican in nature it makes me physically sick. Don't talk to me about hard work, just because it may have worked out for you doesn't mean everyone else has it that way and you need to start opening your horizons a little bit and start examining the world around you or it will leave you behind.

>if you map out averages of ability across races, you'll see commonalities emerge. modern politics has forced the scientific community to surpress these studies, because it doesn't mesh with the thinking of the politically correct - but its THERE.

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Well that's just real convenient for you, your evidence exists but you can't show it to me cause the government suppresses it. Maybe the science you are referring to is just wrong, but I don't think you would have considered that because it doesn't mesh with your thinking does it? I'm not even asking you to conclude that it's wrong, I just want to see the sources you're using to reach this conclusion. Anything, a newspaper clipping, some kind of verifiable piece of evidence to show you're not just assuming that something you read about or heard once is true and that's what you've believed for the last forty years. Show me what's "there" and I can't promise not to rip to shreds, but I'll look at it.

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>shitler was wrong in using his power to try to exterminate what HE saw as lesser races. wrong in assuming they were lesser, wrong in trying to exterminate them.
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>in todays society, we've gone the equally wrong direction of "dumbing down" everything to the lowest common denominator - removing the drive from any child to develop exceptional talent. which is deeply disturbing and sad :(

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I don't know who you're referring to. We still have Ivy League schools and a capitalist republic democracy, the only thing that's changed is those really smart children went on to realize the dumb ideas of the past were really symptomatic of a poor understanding of diversity. You should read "Ender's Game" it actually does a really good job in showing what it means to be in a team, and how different individuals, because of their differences make up for each other's shortcomings and that is what makes us better than a homogeneous population that would see a class of the "intelligent" and a class of the "underlings" no, that's not what matters. In some cases genius a nourished, in some it's revealed, in some cases genius is discovered long after a person has died. Human progress and the march towards Nietzsche's ubermensch is not a path of homogeneity or class dialogue, it's a path of endless diversity and modulation and specializations but also adaptations to new challenges and that requires the preservation of diversity.

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>instead we should return to separating out individuals by ability (regardless of race) and let each group focus on what they test best at. raise a group of super science brains. another of mental librarians. several groups of super athletes. PUSH them into being amazing :) and let them lead our future by inspiring others to what the pinnacle of humanity CAN be...

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Again, it seems like we agree on the direction and that's what diversity does by compensating for society's poorly placed institutional biases. There are no racial differences, and there is no one keeping everyone special, that's such a poor stereotype of what it means to be liberal. Liberalism is not about denying people who are gifted opportunities, it's about making sure the landscape in which gifted individuals find themselves is so level that they ALL have a REAL opportunity to achieve success. Sometimes genius is discovered and sometimes it needs a little push, sometimes great people are born and never see the inside of a book because of fascist and backwards social policies. We aren't pushing too far into the realm of homogeneity, we're discovering a new tactic for the embellishment of our future leaders. It's called equality, and it's the bees knees.