Reddit reviews Freedom Betrayed: Herbert Hoover's Secret History of the Second World War and Its Aftermath

>we were wrong to help liberate the jews from concentration camps?

That is an entirely false (20/20 hindsight) revisionist history.

Sorry to burst your patriotic bubble, but the US was not (at least not intentionally) some "perfect anti-racism savior" of the Jews, and did NOT join the European War to "liberate the Jews from concentration camps". (The pro-Jewish sentiment was a post-holocaust reaction to the genocide.)

1. Racism was not only present, but widely accepted, and a part of MANY western government policies throughout the early 20th century (the racist practice of "Redlining" for example was part of FDR's "New Deal" National Housing Act of 1934 -- thus via federal laws and programs, segregating and affecting not only Blacks, but Latinos, Asians, and Jews).
   
   
2. In fact, the entire "eugenics" mentality that was present in Germany was actually imported there... mainly from the United States where it had grown over several decades out of the "Social Darwininst" movement (one of the other "modern revisions" to history is the hiding/denying/ignoring that the anti-evolution "Scopes Trial" was actually originally about racism, with the "science" promoting racism, and religion trying to quash racism).
   
   
3. Prior to the war, the US, like other western nations had several years of opportunities to allow significantly higher amounts of Jewish immigration from Europe (keep in mind that the Nazi's had gained power in the early 1930's and the actual war did not begin until September 1939), but for a variety of complex economic (it was the Great Depression) and political reasons (including but certainly not limited to the influence of the Zionists who wanted Jews to be "encouraged" to emigrate to Palestine rather than America) instead severely limited it.
   
   
4. Despite the fact that people now equate the term "concentration camp" with "Nazi run Jewish Holocaust Extermination Camp" -- in fact the "concentration camps" under that name were first "invented" and run by the British in Africa during the Boer War at the beginning of the 20th century (and it could be argued that the US had previously practiced similar things with Native American Indian tribes, and again with Filipinos during the Spanish-American war).
   
   
5. By early 1942 the US had it's own "concentration camps" (called "internment camps") for Japanese as well as German and Italians (just as there had been huge anti-German sentiment during WWI).
   
   
6. The German concentration camps did not become the genocidal "death camps" until the mid 1940's. (Substantial killing had occurred before, but the "Final solution" and mass systematic extermination did not begin until 1942).
   
   
7. Following the attack on Pearl Harbor (Dec 7, 1941) the US Congress (on Dec 8, 1941) declared war on Japan -- arguably due to FDR's machinations and his own fascistic and racist tendencies (see linked article below).
   
   
8. It was actually Hitler in Germany (along with Mussolini in Italy) together in alliance with Japan, that declared war on the US.
   
   
   Here's an article with some background that is NOT widely known but which really is NOT in dispute. (Review of a forthcoming book entitled Freedom Betrayed: Herbert Hoover's Secret History of the Second World War and Its Aftermath).
   
   And it should be noted (as others have in other posts) -- that quite probably the entire reason why the Nazi's rose to power and the German people accepted them, as well as why their was such rampant antisemitism (aka a "betrayal" by the banking class) throughout central Europe -- was almost entirely due to Woodrow Wilson's "interventionist" (and arguably entirely UNnecessary) entry of the US into the WWI (aka "The Great War" at the time) which created the defeated and downtrodden Germany (which was then further "crushed" by the Treaty of Versailles). Because otherwise, WWI had basically ground to a standstill, and a stalemate.
   
   
   EDIT: As a further side-note, one additional consequence of the Allied "victory" in WWI -- was the breakup of the (Kaiser) Germany's allied Ottoman Empire -- (aka Turkey and what we now call the "Middle East" all the way to Iraq and Arabia, as well as Egypt, Sudan etc) -- literally creating new countries (and dividing them up between the British and the French like so many pieces of pie) via "lines drawn in the sand" (and thus creating the mess that we have to deal with now).

In Sep 2000, the neo-con PNAC web-site argued that the U.S. needed "a new Pearl Harbor event". A year later, 9/11 was orchestrated and the neo-cons got their wish.

Historian George Nash has now made public Herbert Hoover's secret history of the 1943-1963 period, and we find that the original Pearl Harbor was also an orchestrated event.

> In November, the U.S. intercepted two new offers from Tokyo: a Plan A for an end to the China war and occupation of Indochina and, if that were rejected, a Plan B, a modus vivendi where neither side would make any new move. When presented, these, too, were rejected out of hand.

> At a Nov. 25 meeting of FDR’s war council, Secretary of War Henry Stimson’s notes speak of the prevailing consensus: “The question was how we should maneuver them [the Japanese] into … firing the first shot without allowing too much danger to ourselves.”

> “We can wipe the Japanese off the map in three months,” wrote Navy Secretary Frank Knox.

-- Patrick Buchanan, "Did FDR Provoke Pearl Harbor?", Antiwar.com, 07 Dec 2011

Notice that the U.S. is using the same tactic against Iran today: instantly rejecting all conciliatory proposals made by Iran, then using this orchestrated "failure of diplomacy" to provide the justification for military aggression.

The difference is that Iran has so far refused to take the bait and respond to U.S. provocations and acts of war. This means that the U.S. will have to construct a false-flag terror attack on itself, similar to the bogus used-car-salesman assassination plot perhaps, and then use that deceit as a fig-leaf for aggression.

He tricked America into a war it didn't want and sacrificed many American boys at Pearl Harbor to get his war.

His New Deal prolonged the great depression by years and caused untold suffering.

He gave away half of Europe to Stalin's communist hell for no reason whatsoever, and in doing so got a lot of American boys needlessly slaughtered in Normandy. All of his advisors, and Churchill himself, said come up through the south and keep Stalin bottled up at the eastern front.

Stopping Hitler was a good thing, but empowering an even greater mass murder, Stalin was certainly not.

>youre a white supremacist

No, but your hero was. He opposed the Costigan-Wagne anti-lynching bill, appointed Hugo Black a notorious KKK member to the Supreme Court, and locked up Japanese people just for their skin color, etc.

I'm opposed to foreign wars.

Y'ever read Herbert Hoover's book "Freedom Betrayed"?

I'm with Hoover, we should have stayed out of both World Wars. Our involvement in the first preciptated the great depression, AND left Britain and France strong enough and cocky enough to bully Germany into a treaty that was 100% certain to precipitate another war.

Our involvement in the second was even worse, because we betrayed the Baltics to Stalin. We should have let those two equally vile empires batter themselves into ruin.

Actually, I have a very deep understanding of the circumstances leading up to the pacific war (one of my nerdiest hobbies).

Check out Freedom Betrayed: Herbert Hoover's Secret History of the Second World War and Its Aftermath.

TLDR; Japan was doing its imperial thing in China, the US put an embargo on Japan. The pro-American Japanese cabinet reached out to FDR, begging for the lifting of the embargo - promising to do anything to make it happen (even shipping the PM to Hawaii or Alaska to sign whatever in person). The PM also asked that these communications be kept secret, as the embargo had created pretty strong anti-American sentiment that threatened his power and ability to peacefully resolve the disagreement between the two countries. The Whitehouse leaked the letters, the PM lost power. We moved a shit load of ships into Pearl Harbor as a show of force, and the rest is history. FDR wanted that war. Also, MacArthur notified FDR of Japan's offer to unconditionally surrender more than once - FDR ignored him. The war could have been ended much sooner, and without the use of nuclear weapons. Take a look at the article from 1945