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10 Reddit comments about Going Postal: Rage, Murder, and Rebellion: From Reagan's Workplaces to Clinton's Columbine and Beyond:

u/LizardMalone · 53 pointsr/watchpeopledie

There's a fascinating book by the journalist Mark Ames about the rise of workplace/school rage shootings (at least in the US) and their correlation with intensely increased economic and social pressure on middle-class America over the last 30-40 years. He compares their perception by media and government (and those sympathetic to the shooters) to slave rebellions of the 18-19th centuries.

Didn't necessarily agree with all of his conclusions, but worth a read if interested.

u/p3on · 49 pointsr/reddit.com

they both apologized to their parents, they weren't sociopaths (though it may be easier to label them as such), and they were, in fact, bullied:

>As one member of the Columbine High School football team bragged after the massacre, "Columbine is a good, clean place except for those rejects. Most kids didn't want them there... Sure we teased them. But what do you expect with kids who come to school with weird hairdos and horns on their hats?... If you want to get rid of someone, usually you tease 'em. So the whole school would call them homos."

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>Former columbine student Brooks Brown recounted one incident: I was smoking cigarettes with [Klebold and Harris] when a bunch of football players drove by, yelled something, and threw a glass bottle that shattered near Dylan's feet. I was pissed, but Eric and Dylan didn't even flinch. 'Don't worry about it, man,' Dylan said. 'It happens all the time.'"

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>Once, a student reported them to the administration for allegedly having brought drugs to school, just to humiliate them for a laugh.

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>They were so marked for abuse that even talking to them was dangerous. One female student recounted how, when she was a Columbine freshman, some jocks spotted her talking to Dylan Klebold in the school hallway between classes. After she walked away from him, one of the bullies slammed her against the lockers and called her a "fag lover."

source (an excellent read by the way)

these were kids deeply disenfranchised by the institutions that surrounded them -- high school, suburbia, etc. -- and rebelled. in eric harris' own words, "we're going to kick start a revolution, a revolution of the dispossessed!"

>the record now shows Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold hadn't been bullied — in fact, they had bragged in diaries about picking on freshmen and "fags."

yes, if experience shows us anything, it's that bullied people can't bully others.

p.s. usatoday is shit publication. wtf@"not videogamers", they played doom 2 and that's well known

u/ivquatch · 3 pointsr/politics

> The answer is not more gun control, it is broad social reform that actually improves quality of life in a general sense.

You nailed it. It seems likely that these rampage-killings are acts of desperation in response to various forms of oppression/social repression. Eventually, it becomes so overwhelming that people snap. Have you by any chance read, Going Postal?

>The butchery carried out by the capitalist class is the most unfettered in states like my own (Alabama)

I suppose what happened to Jefferson County is probably the worst example of this exploitation.

u/PatricioBateman · 2 pointsr/todayilearned

there was recently a well publicized paper that touched on some of this, about how cutting taxes for the wealthy and cutting social programs shifts cost to more need for police patrols etc, there was even a term used I think, not "defense spending" but something along those lines that refereed to this extra "protection" spending needed to control the masses -- you don't happen to know the paper? why is it so hard to understand that when people don't have certain basic needs it will always manifest itself in some way.

I want to read this -- although the author who runs http://exiledonline.com/ is sometimes too left for even me I think it would be a good read.

u/etherghost · 1 pointr/politics

The phenomenon is easily found in history.

A clear example would be the conduct of black slaves during the plantation slavery age of North America. The slaves would go so far as to fight other slaves to protect their master, despite common sense dictating that they should instead uprise against him.

bibliography:
http://www.amazon.com/Going-Postal-Rebellion-Workplaces-Columbine/dp/1932360824/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1290383000&sr=8-2

u/bashir_allende · 1 pointr/reddit.com
u/tjmac · 1 pointr/politics

“[Going Postal] (https://www.amazon.com/dp/1932360824/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_WOMfAb38J2T68)” - by Mark Ames Milton’s manifesto.

u/Randaethyr · 1 pointr/news

Mental health problems doesn't mean "mentally ill", dissociative disorder etc. it can also include issues like depression.

> Suicides spiked in Japan in the 90s and 00s after their economic wave from the 70s and 80s finally crashed.

Which is also when homicides in the US spiked. Mark Ames argues that economics also factors into school and workplace "rage" violence.

u/cojoco · 0 pointsr/reddit.com

You should read Martin Ame's book, "Going Postal", which comprehensively documents what is wrong with US society.