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u/islamchump · 2 pointsr/MuslimMarriage

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People often read Horkheimer and think, do these imbeciles think some group of evil people is controlling society (in a conspiracy type of manner)? how idiotic of them.

actually, individuals in the collective are the cause of this,

parents push engineering on to you because it will lead to a good life

people choose majors for extrinsic reasons now

men view themselves in monetary value because they need to be providers (this is true, howev,er the happy normal life exacerbates this)

as a student success is by grades not by what you learned

the moment you ask a kid, what do you want to be when you grow up?

these are all examples of how we, the collective of individuals, cause it

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Impact of Colonial Rule on Todays Educational System of Pakistan

>The British ruledIndia for more than 150 years. They came as a separate entity with a different religion, language, culture, style of politics and economic system. They colonize India for financial benefits. They institutionalized the systems more efficiently. Their focus was more on to facilitate their own rule than to work for the social welfare of the natives. They came to India as traders, however within short span of time they realized the weaknesses in then system of governance and planned to capture India. Local segments joined them to weakening the cohesive forces and asthey succeeded in capturing Indian lands bit by bit and weakening the existingsystem, ultimately capturing Indian sub content in 1857. They built their own kind of education system. The aim was to produce work force which follow the mindset of the rulers without causing any problems. They philosophy behind the system was to educate the people in such a way to think like rulers and oppress their own countrymen. In the beginning they adopted the language and culture of India and their tone was liberal and neutral but as they got dominating force they became harder in promulgating their systems. In 1835 English was made the mediumof instruction and whole of the education system was handed over to the missionaries. It is a general perception that educational system of Pakistan is still under the influence the colonial mind set.This system does not give the sense of independence as the educated people try to enslave their own countrymen. This system teaches to hate fellow beings. This study aims at to see the impact of colonial rule on today’s educational system of Pakistan.

The Lingering Impact of Colonization on Pakistan: Negative or
Positive?


>The British rule had a lasting Impact on the lives of the Indian people. They exploited the
Indian territory for their own interests and left the land in more disorder and confusion than
they found it in as (1) their attitude of superiority shattered the confidence of the people, (2)
their agrarian revolution did not help improve yield and caused landholdings to become
more fragmented, (3) the Indian industry was not protected and many traditional ones were
ruined , (4) education was not made easily accessible , (5) construction of railways although
improved transportation however was not done keeping the Indian interests but the British
interests in mind and (6) the new political system which lacked personal element was not
more effective than the old one.


also to relate the objective mind to colonialism,

the quote "The British rule had a lasting Impact on the lives of the Indian people. They exploited the
Indian territory for their own interests and left the land in more disorder and confusion" is the product of thinking with an objective mind

basically okay how can we the brits make hella alot of money in India


the root cause of the objective mind is from enlightenment style thinking which is why Frankfurt school is also called critical theory.

i gave a mini khutba about this how we cannot understand the Quran because of the underlying assumptions that are in a society that are the byproducts of enlightenment style thinking (NOT THAT WAY SPECIFICALLY). Like today in in my religious class, i went toe to toe with stark atheist on the meaning of "evidence"

because Horkheimer says "Our minds are closed to a different world, we will get upset of people to violate the rules of the game, but we do not question those rules"

basically we don't question the rules, for example, what is and is not evidence and why is it that way, instead we are on the defensive with the Quran like omg we're nice people stop hating on us, look Scientific miracles, we're rationally scientific people like you!

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Excellent Sheep: The Miseducation of the American Elite and the Way to a Meaningful Life

>A groundbreaking manifesto about what our nation’s top schools should be—but aren’t—providing: “The ex-Yale professor effectively skewers elite colleges, their brainy but soulless students (those ‘sheep’), pushy parents, and admissions mayhem” (People).

>As a professor at Yale, William Deresiewicz saw something that troubled him deeply. His students, some of the nation’s brightest minds, were adrift when it came to the big questions: how to think critically and creatively and how to find a sense of purpose. Now he argues that elite colleges are turning out conformists without a compass.

>Excellent Sheep takes a sharp look at the high-pressure conveyor belt that begins with parents and counselors who demand perfect grades and culminates in the skewed applications Deresiewicz saw firsthand as a member of Yale’s admissions committee. As schools shift focus from the humanities to “practical” subjects like economics, students are losing the ability to think independently. It is essential, says Deresiewicz, that college be a time for self-discovery, when students can establish their own values and measures of success in order to forge their own paths. He features quotes from real students and graduates he has corresponded with over the years, candidly exposing where the system is broken and offering clear solutions on how to fix it.


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read the articles/studies/journal entries for sure, then pick a book that interests you the most and run with it and have fun!


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related kinda but in a different way,

Inglorious Empire: what the British did to India

>In the eighteenth century, India’s share of the world economy was as large as Europe’s. By 1947, after two centuries of British rule, it had decreased six-fold. Beyond conquest and deception, the Empire blew rebels from cannon, massacred unarmed protesters, entrenched institutionalized racism, and caused millions to die from starvation.

>British imperialism justified itself as enlightened despotism for the benefit of the governed, but Shashi Tharoor takes on and demolishes this position, demonstrating how every supposed imperial “gift”―from the railways to the rule of law―was designed in Britain’s interests alone. He goes on to show how Britain’s Industrial Revolution was founded on India’s deindustrialization and the destruction of its textile industry. In this bold and incisive reassessment of colonialism, Tharoor exposes to devastating effect the inglorious reality of Britain’s stained Indian legacy.

This dude did something amazing (i can go into detail why it was amazing given the ethnocentrism, academic, power, and cultural structure present and just uh it makes me drool in awe) but basically he questioned what people view as a genocide and said mister Winston Churchill, the one who helped stopped the genocidal Nazis promoting freedom and democracy committed a genocide himself in continental India

relevant article https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/world-history/winston-churchill-genocide-dictator-shashi-tharoor-melbourne-writers-festival-a7936141.html

because other people came out and rebuked him which shows he challenged a pharaoh

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sorry but here's an interview of the Indian historian and the lady who supports him says about the Britain education about their vicious imperial past till 6:11

u/sultanatehere · 1 pointr/explainlikeimfive

Yes! Apart from playing India's Hindu-Muslim divide, the Brits did play on this caste divide. They stayed here for like 200 years, their arrival saw the falling of Mughal Empire and departure, the creation of the Republic of India. Two centuries are enough to entrench it. Assuming you are from the USA, may I recommend you these two books, if you are interested to know more about the British rule in India by Shashi Tharoor. Inglorious Empire and An Era of Darkness.