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u/elihu · 6 pointsr/NeutralPolitics

Republic, Lost by Lawrence Lessig is a pretty good place to start.

http://www.amazon.com/Republic-Lost-Money-Corrupts-Congress/dp/0446576433

Lessig's premise is basically that the big problem isn't corruption in the traditional sense. If you picture it as politicians being handed paper bags full of cash under the table in exchange for voting a certain way on a certain bill, that sort of thing really isn't all that widespread. The big problem is the completely legal economy of favors and undue influence that exists, which prevents both liberals and conservatives from making any progress on many of their policy objectives.

Liars and Outliers by Bruce Schneier is another book that has a lot to say about corruption, but he approaches the problem from the perspective of examining the various systems that society puts in place to compel good behavior from its members, and how those systems fail.

http://www.amazon.com/Liars-Outliers-Enabling-Society-Thrive/dp/1118143302

u/ALeapAtTheWheel · 2 pointsr/casualiama

>If we are smarter and more informed, why doesn't it appear that way?

Probably because you are comparing reality to your idealized world. Probably because you are suffering from what is called "Availability heuristic." If someone hangs out in r/bad_cop_no_donut, they are going to see a lot of stories about alleged bad behavior of cops gathered from all over the country. (pulling a number out of the air) Let's say 5% of cops are like that, and 95% are reasonable. Is that person going to go read 19 stories about cops doing normal things for every story you read there? probably not. Do you think that this will probably skew their perception of the police? Science says yes.

>How is the media allowed to so rampantly present belligerent lies? We (internet, Reddit etc.) are informed because we choose to be, the mass American public buys into the bullshit and further perpetuates the madness. We are raping the planet.

What are rampantly presented belligerent lies? These? Ignore the politics of the publication. They have citations if you want to verify the historical sources.

I'll give you a rampant bullshit lie believed by lots of people who use Reddit and the internet and who think they are informed. The earth is not anthropomorphic. It does not care for us. It cannot be "raped" without mutating the term in a way that both harms our ability to communicate and that is also callously insulting people who are the victims of rape. Getting this wrong isn't just lazy language. It fundamentally misstates the issues.

I don't see you as arguing, and I'm working under the assumption that you understand I'm not arguing either. That doesn't mean that I agree with you. I do, however, recognize the epiphany you are having. I had one too. Do you want to feel better about the world? Learn and practice some engineering and discover just how fast we are solving our human problems. Learn some history and find out just how different it is today than even 100 years ago. Learn some economics, psychology, and game theory and learn how and why people respond to incentives and just how little an 'informed' person knows. These things have really changed my outlook on life.

Like I said, we've never had so much information at our fingertips. Here's a list of book recommendations. They are all written for a popular audience. None require much in the way of math or previous understanding of the subject matter.

u/scruffandstuff · 2 pointsr/changemyview

Heh. Thanks. All too often people who feel like you fail to see their point proceed to demonstrate by poking you repeatedly with it.

Anyways. Privacy is such a murky issue. I'm not sure there is a right answer - or, hell, even just one question. Personally I love discussing it because I feel like there is so much left to get right. It's the wild west right now as far as personal information is concerned. Pretty much anything goes, and lawmakers are still trying to make sense of things.

If you're interested in expanding your perspective a bit, I highly, highly recommend "Liars and Outliers." As a CS student you have probably heard of the author. It presents a framework for thinking about security and trust, getting into issues like conflicts of public and private interests and scaling issues when trying to make things work on a national level.

u/PerviouslyInER · 1 pointr/unitedkingdom

sorry, what is common sense here? The prices are due to supply and demand. If people leave early, they haven't found a loophole in economic theory; they're just cheating - 'winning' by breaking the rules for selfish interest at the expense of everyone else.

u/penguinland · 1 pointr/atheismplus

Whoa! I need to read 16 essays before I can ask questions which are only allowed in a different subreddit than the one I have questions about!? That's a heck of a barrier to entry. Thank you for explaining how the system works over there, but that's not the community for me. Can we please not turn A+ into something that intimidating?

There's a trade-off here between welcoming potential allies and being unwelcoming to enemies. I suspect the problem is that there is a small minority of people who want to ruin things for everyone else, and we need to find a way to get rid of them without having our solution ruin things for everyone else anyway. Does anyone happen to have a copy of Bruce Scheier's latest book, Liars and Outliers? I imagine he's got a discussion of this problem in it. I've ordered a copy but it hasn't arrived yet, so I can't check on that.

u/HenryJonesJunior · 1 pointr/askscience

Other answers cover the basics well, but if you're looking for more to read on this subject, I recommend Bruce Schneier's Liars and Outliers. It spends a great deal of time talking about the evolution of trust, cooperation, and social interaction and yes, it cites its sources, the vast majority (at least for the chapters covering these topics) academic and peer-reviewed.

u/satanic_hamster · 1 pointr/TheRedPill

I've found it ironic that women think men operate with a double standard when they don't want to wait past a certain number of dates to have sex with them, but won't LTR them when they give it up and give the guy what he wants.

A man looks at it like this: "why should I wait longer than X amount of dates to have sex with you if guys in the past got it easier and quicker than I'm getting right now?" Simple, you shouldn't, it's not worth your time.

If I was looking for an LTR and a girl had a reputation for making good decisions, and even the faintest degree of sanity, I would be far more willing to consider her in the long run than a woman who was clearly reckless. Reputation is everything, for men and women. It's how you're able to invest in or trust anybody for anything.

Fundamentally as a man, you decide your own level of involvement, so, why should you have to pay a cost that other men didn't have to when she was more attractive the further back to go?