Reddit reviews Manning Up: How the Rise of Women Has Turned Men into Boys

http://www.amazon.com/The-End-Men-Rise-Women/dp/1594488045/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1348170752&sr=8-1&keywords=the+end+of+men

http://www.amazon.com/Manning-Up-Rise-Women-Turned/dp/0465028365/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1348170839&sr=1-1&keywords=manning+up

http://www.amazon.com/Man-Down-Reasonable-Gamblers-Everything/dp/0810998297/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1348171039&sr=8-1&keywords=man+down

Etc. It hasn't been out of fashion. It's been in fashion. It's just been under the guise of "now that everyone realizes women are so awesome and so much better than men, it's pretty obvious how men suck."

I shouldn't have limited it to books, but blog and newspaper articles as well. It's been a very popular topic among "real" (not straw) feminists.

> But then again (again), the men who are in female-dominated industries still tend to make more than the women and take higher places.

Correct, although I would add that this could be due to the amount of hours worked. People who put in more hours tend to be promoted more.

>everyone should do the jobs they want and the whole 'a man should support his family' is total crap.

It's nice to hear this, and I wish more people would say this. Too often, men get shamed for stepping outside of traditional gender roles. Take this book for example: http://www.amazon.com/Manning-Up-Rise-Women-Turned/dp/0465028365

Or the summary article:

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052748704409004576146321725889448

I don't want this to turn into mensrights (really, that place goes too far), but I want to say that it will be difficult to achieve equality between genders if feminism focuses on one.

Videomancy - None of you guys are making any sense. It is not "ignorant" to note that the trend in perfumery has shifted dramatically toward "gender neutral" fragrances. This is a fact. It is openly acknowledged by perfumers. Given only three-tenths of a second, Google search will amply demonstrate that.

Nor is it "ignorant" to hope for a re-balance, so to speak, or to prefer...what's the word I'm looking for?...more smouldering scents. Not all of us want to smell like our babysitters used to, or like a nice, happy air freshener.

Now as it happens, I've never had the opportunity to try Slumberhouse Norne, so thank you for the tip. That might be another one to add to the list of hold-outs in a perfumerie world awash with "unisex niceness".

Lastly, I seemed to have touched a big nerve with my comments not only on colognes, but on the surprisingly large percentage of males these days under, say, 32, who seem...underdeveloped. A surprising proportion have very little amibition, very little real world skill (how many can even change a tire?), and not much to offer a young woman. (This again is actually a demographic fact: just as one example, male enrollments in universities are declining, while female enrollments are rising. For more info, see, e.g., "Manning Up: How the Rise of Women Has Turned Men Into Boys" by Kate Hymowitz http://www.amazon.ca/Manning-Up-Rise-Women-Turned/dp/0465028365).

Do all males need to be macho? No. Is there only "one true way to be a man"? Not at all. Is there something wrong with a man taking up professional nursing (Gaylord Fokker-style), or becoming an interior decorator or a lipstick consultant? No. Couldn't care less.

But I think there is something wrong with a culture which essentially mocks or devalues more traditionally masculine pursuits, customs, outlooks, and skills - and, yes, scents - and I feel inclined to stick up for that sort of thing.