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u/jive_s_turkey · 11 pointsr/vegan

If you haven't read it already and would like to be depressed about the sketchy details on studies like this - the book, Meatonomics goes into a lot of detail about the funding and shortcomings of various studies the meat industry relies on to influence consumer opinions.

u/Odd_nonposter · 8 pointsr/worldnews

And beans and rice are cheaper than either. People are just too married to the idea that every meal needs to be centered around a giant chunk of dead flesh and that everything else is a side dish.

If our culinary culture instead focused on stir frys, stews, chilis, and curries, bibimbap, casseroles, burritos and such where the meat is chunked up and mixed with stuff, it'd be much easier for people to change their habits. Beans already fit those perfectly, and meat substitutes can be stretched more easily.

Not to say that making meat more expensive wouldn't be a deterrent. We pay an artificially low price at the grocery counter, but end up paying way more on the back end with our taxes in the form of subsidies, state-sponsored advertising propaganda, and more. (Meatonomics is a good look at that if you're curious.)







u/[deleted] · 7 pointsr/vegan

I'm positive there is a direct relationship between eating meat and funding animal abuse and if you want to dispute that, try /r/debateavegan.

I don't think his job is to sit and convince you on Reddit, and if you want him to anyway, you can look up his resources for that. Meatonomics is a good book to start with.

u/_soulscratch · 4 pointsr/vegan

I think your argument is sidestepping a critical issue; probably 90% (that seems pretty generous too) of these cows wouldn't even exist if it wasn't for the meat industry. Here's a quote from a quick Google search:

>Among mammals 41,700,000 cows and calves were killed for food in 2000, as well as 115,200,000 pigs and 4,300,000 sheep, for a total of 161,200,000. These stats are also expected to continue to rise. Thus, the total number of all animals killed for food in 2000 was 9.7 billion.

There's no way 161 million cows, pigs, and sheep would be killed in the wild each year. There's tons of research coming out discussing how much more animal agriculture we produce each year due to the growth of populations consumption of meat (regions that are now consuming a larger percentage of meat as opposed to plants).

You might find this book to be really interesting. I keep meaning to read it myself but I've had several people tell me how shocking it was.

u/CarlsbadCO · 3 pointsr/vegan

beans and rice are cheap as balls - especially if purchased dried and in bulk.

If you/one/anyone eats a wholefood vegan diet and purchases dried/in bulk - it is way cheaper than eating animals.

A great book about the animal flesh industry and the infuckingsane amounts of subsidization is:

http://www.amazon.com/Meatonomics-Economics-Consume-Much--Smarter/dp/1573246204/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1420662136&sr=1-1&keywords=meatonomics

u/mycatturtle · 2 pointsr/CapitalismVSocialism

The book Meatonomics goes into the hidden costs of meat consumption. http://www.amazon.com/Meatonomics-Economics-Consume-Much-Smarter/dp/1573246204

Other than that, r/VerlorenesMetallgeld did a good job explaining.

u/BlackPorcupine · 2 pointsr/vegan

I would recommend this book: Meatonomics - David Robinson Simon

While the majority of the book doesn't directly deal with your question, the final chapter touches on it.

u/throwstemsaway · 1 pointr/IAmA

A plant based diet is much less expensive!

Legumes, fruits, and vegetables are the cheapest foods to buy at a store, and that's without the billions of dollars in government subsidization animal flesh (meat) and secretion (dairy) industries receive. Imagine if the government gave those same subsidizes to fruit and veg industries; there wouldn't be anyone in the country who couldn't afford to feed their family healthily! Keep it in mind when comparing the prices of animal flesh and plant based meats that the flesh is artificially priced low.

There are certainly more expensive options at the grocery store like faux meats and ice cream, but these can easily be made yourself for much cheaper. There are millions of vegan recipes on Google for literally every possible food.

If you'd like to learn about the reasons why many governments subsidize meat and dairy, I recommend the book Meatonomics by David Robinson Simon. "It explores the unseen economic forces that drive our animal food system, and the strange ways these forces affect our spending, eating, health, prosperity, and longevity. Among other things, consumers have largely lost the ability to decide for ourselves what – and how much – to eat. Instead, those decisions are made for us by meat and dairy producers who control our buying choices with artificially low prices, misleading messaging, and heavy control over legislation and regulation."

u/Pineapplefucker666 · 0 pointsr/AnimalsBeingBros

A couple definitions of propaganda: "ideas or statements that are often false or exaggerated and that are spread in order to help a cause, a political leader, a government, etc." and "information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view."

Earthlings is not false, exaggerated, biased, nor is it misleading. It literally just documents standard practices on factory farms. We both know that you just made up that "0.01%" homie.

Factory farms raise 99.9 percent of chickens for meat, 97 percent of laying hens, 99 percent of turkeys, 95 percent of pigs, and 78 percent of cattle currently sold in the United States.x.

In order to meet the high global demand for meat, we slaughter approximately 70 billion land animals for food each year. This can only be done through industrialized factory farming.

Here's some examples for you:

A California meat company forced to recall 143 million pounds of meat after undercover footage showed extreme cruelty taking place

this discusses a New Mexico dairy farm that was shut down after undercover footage exposed regular acts of animal cruelty. It also talks about states with gag laws that criminalize such footage.

video footage of abuse at an Oklahoma pig farm

article with video showing abuse of chickens at Tyson Foods facilities in Virgina. Tyson has a long history of animal abuse in their farms that has been documented in dozens of videos at different farms in the US

cruelty footage at Smithfield foods

Animal Cruelty at New York's largest dairy farm.

this video shows various industry practices of dealing with animals that are standard in the US.

This touches on environmental effects, traumatic effects on workers, sustainability, and the conditions of farmed animals.

This is not propaganda. To slaughter literally billions of animals in a year, you have to objectify and commodity them. They're called live"stock" for a reason. I assure you their rights are not remotely respected. And before you talk about "good farms," know that that the land needed for livestock, mainly for cows, covers 45% of the world's total land and is the leading cause of deforestation and habitat loss.. Meaning being fully "free ranged" (a term with no actual legal enforced meaning) would take up much, much more land than industrialized farms already do.

Wiki article with many sources about ag-gag laws and how they are put in place to censor systematic animal abuse in a way that infringes not just on the rights of the animals, but on our free speech and right to know where our food comes from as well.

New bills are introduced all the time to silence and censor any footage inside factory farms. That in itself is corruption. When a corporation can change laws to suit itself and silence citizens, that is, by definition, corruption. And the publicity from these videos and this information is the only thing threatening them. That's why they want these laws in place.

Here's more though:

The Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act (AETA) is a United States federal law (Pub.L. 109–374; 18 U.S.C. § 43) that prohibits any person from engaging in certain conduct "for the purpose of damaging or interfering with the operations of an animal enterprise.

In the United States, taxpayers support upwards of $38.4 billion a year in subsidies to animal food production and assume over $400 billion of externalized costs associated with animal food production including subsidies, healthcare costs, environmental costs, animal cruelty, and fish production.
Eliminating subsidies would rid our food system of market distortions and allow the market principles of free trade—the principles that govern our economy—to readjust our consumption patterns towards healthier and environmentally aligned products.

Corporate agriculture has massive lobbying power in the government and in return, receives massive subsidies from your and my tax dollars.

Every five years legislators update "The Farm Bill", pouring millions into subsidies and slashing the largest costs of industrial livestock production, specifically feed and waste management. Livestock production in the United States is one of the most heavily funded sectors of agriculture, in addition to tobacco and cotton. A 2007 Tufts University study found that factory farms saved $34.8 billion between 1997 and 2005, as they were able to purchase feed at low prices with the aid of federal subsidies.