Reddit reviews NEO CN Gravity Feed Dual Action Airbrush
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Gravity-feed airbrushes perform well at lower air pressures, which help create greater detailA unique 0.35-mm needle and nozzle combination for finer detail spraying and medium-sized spray patternsIncludes interchangeable large (1/3 oz.) and medium (1/16 oz.) cups designed with a funnel shape, which makes for easy clean-up and more efficient paint flowIdeal operation is between 5 and 35 psiIdeal for use with smaller air compressors that produce a maximum of 20 psi
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So I am NOT an artistic person so this is especially anxious for me. But, I needed something to keep my hands busy that wasn't masturbating, so here we are.
I have probably over studied techniques and materials, and I want this post to be a "documentary" if you will. Where someone who has no business painting is going to be doing just that.
So, I'll be documenting my pitfalls and approaches to everything here. With all of you lovely people, it'll also hopefully be a central location for someone like me or just wants to get into 40k can refer to.
Disclaimer: I'll be at work until 5pm EST. But my job is pretty cushy so I'll be adding planning details throughout the day
Tools and Such
Well, I probably overspent here. Only because I'm lazy and didn't want to make the drive to harbor freights. But then again, paying the premium to help support my local game shop is going to give me some karma in the long run. Here's the list of things that I ended up picking up:
Theory is Great and All (11.13.19)
So here are my updates from actually painting.
Life Sucks and I haven't gotten much done (11/15/19)
So I was only able to apply a second coat of to what I've already done. But honestly, not too shabby! Apparently I didn't water down the paint too much.
Also, I recently switched to a different cell phone carrier, and got a $200 prepaid card.... So I'm getting these.
There's a blog that I found (will have to find it again later) that recommended these.
That is a pretty shitty airbrush.
For €10-15 more you can get yourself a much better airbrush such as the Harder & Steenbeck Ultra or the Iwata Neo.
tl;dr: Buy quality, cry once.
Okay, that's a broad question you are asking.
First you need a brush. Get a double action. I recommend either the badger patriot 105, or the iwata neo for your first brush.
You need a compressor. I used a cheap one off amazon pretty well until I upgraded to a larger California air tools silent compressor.
You want a moisture trap as well, plus an air hose.
As far as paints go I really like the Vallejo model air and game air paints. The game air paints have very vibrant colors, whereas the model air line is more like real camo colors from WW2
Airbrushing is above and beyond nicer than brush painting. You just can't do things with a brush that you can with an airbrush. Don't break the bank with an airbrush now. Get something simple and get your feet wet with it. I've been recommending the Neo for Iwata a lot lately. It's half the price of most mid-range airbrushes but definitely gives you a much better airbrush than something like a Master. Master's are very frustrating to work with.
I used that airbrush for three years. Be mindful that that airbrush is going to be less precise and less well machined than a more expensive brush. It also needs to be cleaned more frequently than other brushes, or it will jam. I cleaned it often enough that I just removed the back handle entirely because it served no useful purpose (not even as a counterweight). That brush is serviceable. It won't run circles around your expensive airbrushes of the world, but it works. If you don't clean it, though, that thing is going to drive you crazy.
In case this is helpful: https://www.reddit.com/r/modelmakers/comments/2yzw9o/master_g23type_airbrush_takedown_and_cleaning/
I still use that compressor when I build models. My airbrush now though is this:
The brush a lot of people consider a nicer starter brush (i.e. in a way, the next level up) is this one:
The reason why /u/triviper said it's about $200+ to start airbrushing is because you need not just the airbrush, but the compressor, moisture trap, hose, and adaptors if you're buying everything separately and want a setup that will last you a long time.
My setup isn't the best, but I got
Total = ~$145
Hope this helps. Brings me back to when I was researching all this for myself.
My setup isn't the best, but it's the bare minimum that I was comfortable with. Two years later and I'm still using the same stuff except I got a spray booth and respirator since I'm using lacquers now
/u/MacdougalLi /u/xhui /u/arkanoid2520
Edit: my bad, this doesn't factor into the paint, alligator clips, and various topcoats. Note that I had all of the former because I started out with spray cans. The cost will probably go up to $170 - $200 depending on what you also get
The reviews are a bit special, I doubt it'll last you long, even if it manages to spray once for you. I've never come across such a compressor, in honesty, save your money, buy once and buy right.
If you're that tight on funds then one of these will get you going, but the compressor leaves a lot to be desired. If you can stretch further, a kit like this has a decent compressor, the airbrush is still a cheap chinese kit. If you want to spend money more wisely then a compressor like this and an airbrush like this will serve many years for a beginner before upgrading the airbrush to something with higher detail. The compressor will serve any model airbrush very well. You can get that compressor or similar in a kit too.
Sure, nothing special really, this is my brush.
Here's my compressor
I've only been painting for about 6 months now but if there's one thing I have learned it's to be patient and not rush, also make sure your paint is the right consistency.
I'm not a veteran by any means in terms of Airbrushing (I've airbrushed 2 kits... a MG Strike Freedom & a MG Nu)
For both of them I went with a very cheap set-up...
For the Airbrush I used a Iwata Neo Gravity which I bought at Hobby Lobby for about $45 w/ their 40% off Coupon :P and it was a great starter airbrush, to me it was straight to the point and definitely something I'd recommend.
As far as my compressor goes, I went with Master Compressor. Reason being is it had a Hose, Water Trap & the Compressor. It works great and I still use it and I like it.
I didn't have a Spray Booth and went with spraying in a damn tub I bought at Walmart for $3 lol and didn't even have a mask...
I highly recommend getting one as it definitely helps out.
I recently bought one and I now use the MSA Safety Works Mask. I started painting my 3rd Airbrushed Kit (about 3 pieces primered lol) and this mask is a god send. I was killing myself before and don't suggest you do the same.
With a Airbrush & the Compressor Set that I linked you should be good to go all you really need is paint which I bought all of mine at the time from Hobby Town USA since they carry Tamiya Paints which are very user friendly and I thinned it 1:1 with 91% Isoprophyl Alcohol from Walmart.
I was in the very same position as you lol, I built about 9 kits before starting a Airbrushed model.
I recently purchased another Airbrush, I got the Master G23 and I've only used Primer on it but it's pretty good, the action isn't as great as my Neo but it's nice enough since I'm no pro and I feel it matches my skill level.
If you have any other questions I can help you as much as I can.
COPYING MY RESPONSE FROM A OLD POST!
I have used the Master Airbrush to paint my Hi-Nu Bust(Scroll down for it) and my MG Unicorn.
Both came out pretty well and to be honest I don't suggest you start with a Airbrush that is expensive... I've done some decent work on my stuff using the Iwata Neo & the Master which both we're under $50... Decent enough to place in contests.
IWATA NEO CN airbrush and AS-186 compressor.
For a total of 140$ as the time of writing this (on 5.8.2019.) it is the best cheap airbrush and compressor combo.
Why? You get the whole package - Airbrush, a compressor with a tank, air filter and a hose which is all you need to start airbrushing
Iwata Neo is considered the best cheap(est) branded airbrush on the market by many so I used it here, also the AS-186 compressor (Check later in the page about it more) is p good. You also get a hose which far too many people forget to buy when choosing a compressor.
Note for other users - I am currently rewriting the airbrush page a bit (this will be on the top of the page), so if you have any wishes to add to it please comment.
the NEO CN is a great, cheap, gravity feed, dual action brush. A little more money than what you were looking to spend. But from what I've seen, it's just about the best value as far as budget airbrushes go. If you live near a hobby lobby you could probably use one of their aewsome coupons on it. And no matter what you go with, you'll need a compressor too.
It all depends. Expect to drop somewhere between 150-300 dollars on all the equipment for airbrushing. Think hard about whether or not you want to drop that cash on that instead of a bunch of new kits.
If you do want to get into airbrushing, these are usually recommended as starting things.
The NEO Iwata http://www.amazon.com/NEO-Gravity-Feed-Action-Airbrush/dp/B004INERK4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1426961305&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=neo+iwata
This is the airbrush I use. I like it, but have never used a different one.
Air Compressor http://www.amazon.com/AIRBRUSH-COMPRESSOR--Airbrush-Published-Exclusively/dp/B001738DXU/ref=sr_1_18?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1426961238&amp;sr=8-18&amp;keywords=air+compressor+tank
If you want your compressor to be quiet, you will want a tank. They hold air in a tank so it wont constantly be running and makin noise.
The badger is great for the detail work you said you want to do and I would recommend it, since it is a detail oriented brush, the nozzle and color cup size make base coating, priming, and varnishing more difficult, you would be better off getting the eclipse or this to start out and then the badger for the detail work
Do you have any in mind? I haven't used it myself but I'm planning on getting my partner an Iwata Neo CN for christmas as her first starter airbrush- .35mm nozzle, two different gravity cup sizes, dual action and a price point of ~60USD make it seem like a phenomenal choice for a first go!
You can hookup any airbrush to a compressed air can. It is never recommended for extensive modeling due to pulsation. You may be prone to pressure-loss while you paint and whatnot. The cheapest you can go is a $70-$100 compressor and a $40-$60 airbrush (Iwata Neo). 8 Dollar colors seems pretty expensive when mr.color bottles go for $2-$3 a bottle that when thinned goes a long way.
Depends on your budget, I'd recommend getting quality tools from the get go, if you can afford them.
Decent starting setup would be TC-20T compressor (or equivalent, there's a bunch of similar compressors coming from the same chinese factory) and either Neo for Iwata, Badger Patriot 105 or H&S Ultra. All of them offer good performance and will last you quite a while. Personally, I'd go for Ultra simply for the ease of maintenance.
If you're on a really tight budget, you can look for some cheap chinese kit. Not the highest quality, but it'll do well enough as a learning tool.
You're going to find that you can either get some decent gear upfront for a realistic price, or you can go cheap and have to replace poorly performing gear almost immediately, which is the expensive way to go. These items below come in within your listed budget and will give you good service for years.
Get a compressor with a tank. Those cheap air compressors may save you thirty dollars upfront, but you're really going to regret having that on-demand-only air pressure bobbing up and down and screwing up your air flow. This Master TC-20T is a good buy. Get the TC-40T for twenty dollars more if you're going to want to do other types of spray paint art in the future. This one has more endurance before heating up. I own one of these and they are quality gear at a good price.
Get a decent starter air brush. This Iwata Neo Dual Action is good for a starter and yet isn't too expensive so if you screw it up you won't break the bank. At the same time, the machining of the parts is much, much better than those cheap Master sets which really aren't good at all. Granted, you may get lucky and get a good-yet-cheap Master air brush, but more likely than not, you'll spend most of your time trying to get the thing to give you a spray without splatter.
Get a quick release coupling set for the airbrush. Having to use a wrench to attach the air brush gets old really, really fast -- like immediately -- and the ten or so bucks makes it a great deal. Iwata-Medea Quick Disconnect Set
Eventually when I cave and get an airbrush I'll be getting the NEO CN Gravity Feed Dual Action Airbrush $58 and the Master Airbrush High Performance Airbrush Air Compressor $66.
Something like this for a budget beginner. https://www.harborfreight.com/deluxe-airbrush-kit-95810.html
I prefer the Iwata Neo. Its dual action gravity feed https://www.amazon.com/NEO-Gravity-Feed-Action-Airbrush/dp/B004INERK4
Then you need a compressor with an air regulator.
Rancor gives some good advice. I've only started modeling for only over a year but I don't know how I would paint a kit without an airbrush. Iwata Neo and this Compressor is what I've been using and it has been working really well.
hmm. now does the moisture trap need to be anything special or just a standard run of the mill thing you buy? I really want to make sure I don't mess this up. I do know that you need a clean up kit for the airbrush and this one I got from a sale long ago. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004INERK4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
Something like this is okay to start with. If you want a better brush the Iwata Neo CN and the Badger Patriot 105 are highly recommended and are beginner friendly.
u/didgeboy and u/Monti21 make valid points. I picked up an inexpensive air compressor and cheap airbursh from Amazon. While the compressor is has turned out to be very nice - quiet, easily adjustable - I upgraded to an Iwata Neo and haven't touched the cheap airbrush since. I've picked up a second Neo, and am now looking to buy something for more detailed work. Paint flow through the better airbrushes is much more consistent. I've really enjoyed the learning curve!
If that's all you want to do then almost any airbrush will get the job done, but if you think that there's even a chance that you want to go further than that, you might consider getting something at least reasonably good.
I like the Iwata Neo as a good starter brush.
Have you thought about asking around to your friends and seeing if any of them have an airbrush you can borrow? Alternatively, you could look around and see if anybody is offering an airbrush demo/class in your area.
Save your money you are like $100 bucks off getting a decent set up.
Edit: Let me elaborate on my reasons a little bit.
You want an air compressor with a tank and an automatic on/off switch.
This will keep your airbrush from getting pulsating air and the on/off switch will extend the life of your compressor (so will the tank as it isn't running all the time). Some added bonuses is being able to work without a lot of noise.
There are some cheap ones you can buy on amazon. ( TheTC-40T and the Master Tank Compressor)
Airbrushes are tricky. but you still can get soem good ones under $100. Like the Badger Krome RK-1, Badger 105 Patriot, Iwata Neo (Not made by Iwata but supported by them), and Iwata Revolution
For airbrushes, I'm personally a fan of the Neo by Iwata, especially their gravity feed (cup) model. The brush is well built, fairly easy to take apart and clean, and has very few issues with most paints and other products you may put through it.
I picked mine up on sale for around $50, and if you have a Michael's or Hobby Lobby nearby, you may be able to pick it for less with one of their one-item coupons they release occasionally. It's also nice if you have a hobby store near by as you can drop in a pick up replacement needles or nibs if you accidentally drop it >.>; . Needles and nibs typically cost in the 10-15 dollar range for replacements, so not too terrible.
For compressors, a simple compressor with a tank will work wonderfully, so long as it has a proper pressure regulator and water trap. I have this compressor and it works well, after I got the correct airbrush hose to attach to the NEO.
There are a couple extra tools that can help with airbrushing as well, but most can be picked up at a later point. Something I would recommend that you get with the initial purchase is a spray booth. This allows you a place to spray into and capture many of the errant particles of paint from your airbrush. Combined with a proper respirator mask, it will ensure that you don't breath in any of the particulate from airbrushing, and hopefully don't have airbrush paints drying on items they weren't directly sprayed on. I would say of the two, the mask is the most important to have.
A quick-disconnect is useful for cleaning and swapping airbrushes, but isn't really necessary at first. A cleaning pot is also useful as it gives you a dedicated space to spray out leftover paint and cleaing fluid, and should stay fairly contained.
I would also look at purchasing a ultrasonic cleaner further on, as it is amazingly helpful for cleaning the airbrush when paint has leaked into the body, or spilled into places it shouldn't be.
Other's can probably offer advice as well, but that's what I currently use. Hope this helps!
I did it with brush but my brother and I just split on this affordable one . I used these paints for color. As for the weathering, I dipped a small but wide damaged brush into grey paint (silver works better) and lightly lined the edges that I thought would chip away first. I tried to be careful because it’s easy to over do it.
I use this one.
Some are dual action (like the one linked), some are single action, some have wider spray areas -- this is a pretty good airbrush tutorial (part 1 of 3).
This is my setup, I'm happy with it.
Additionally, a decent airbrush that is a little cheaper.https://www.amazon.com/NEO-Gravity-Feed-Action-Airbrush/dp/B004INERK4Something to keep in mind, is that the NEO is NOT made by Iwata. It's a Chinese airbrush with their name on it. But I've heard it's quite decent. Here's a video on it, and it's got a great video for learning to clean your airbrush in the description. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8YKUA2SGzU
Is it worth getting an airbrush and air compressor? Would this air compressor and air brush be good? I've been interested in painting and building more complex kits and was wondering if I should make the investment.
This is what I personally used since September. The only I complaint I have has to do with the airbrush cup o-ring. Just toss it and put teflon tape in it's place. I don't have any complaints otherwise.
That? how much are the rest of the hose and hopper run, do you know?
Its only 54 right now on amazon NEO CN Gravity Feed Dual Action Airbrush https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004INERK4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_taa_FdgPBbPT8EZRD
You can't go wrong with an Iwata NEO. I'm not sure how much detail is involved in what you are painting, but this airbrush is very versatile.
If you look at the bottom "Customers who bought this also bought" you will see compressors.
I'm seeing it for $54.50 on amazon : https://www.amazon.com/NEO-Gravity-Feed-Action-Airbrush/dp/B004INERK4.
Idk if there's anything wrong with that one, because that is cheaper than most places, but the reviews are good.
Out of my 3 airbrushes I seriously still find myself using this bad boy. It's easy to clean (paint well screws off) and it's not very expensive at all. https://www.amazon.com/Gravity-Feed-Dual-Action-Airbrush/dp/B004INERK4
If you're looking to spend a little less, I have the Neo, and I'm very happy with it.
Then again, I don't do anything crazy with it whatsoever, mainly for basecoats of light colours or large models.
I have one cheap 0.2mm Sparmax SP20 and one Iwata Revolution Br (0.3mm). The cheaper one is a lot more work to clean and maintain, though I am unsure if it is a quality issue or just the smaller nozzle diameter that's causing it.
I don't have this one, but I have heard very good things about it:
If you plan on buying one, look at the "frequently bought together" area a bit under the main image. You do want a quick-disconnect and the cleaning pot, it makes it a lot easier. You should also consider a soft, braided hose (the plastic ones are often a bit springy and can resist your movements).
Do you have a suitable compressor?
I have this one. It is great and it has never let me down. As far as an airbrush, I suggest the Neo. If you are from the US they will be cheaper yet.
I too would appreciate this.
Not Black Friday but I was recommended this compressor and this air brush on the Discord channel yesterday.
the iwata neo is a good cheap airbrush. I used to use one untill I upgraded to a Sotar, and they're pretty decent.
so if i get this: https://www.amazon.com/NEO-Gravity-Feed-Action-Airbrush/dp/B004INERK4/ref=sr_1_5?crid=1GJX2LR3C2LW3&amp;keywords=iwata+airbrush&amp;qid=1563204953&amp;s=gateway&amp;sprefix=Iwata%2Caps%2C165&amp;sr=8-5
What else would need besides the paint? Would be all that i needed or would i need some kind motor or whatever? All I want to use the air brush for is painting skin. I have a spray can for primer that's worked well for me so far.
Iwata have a 'Neo for Iwata' which is cheap and general purpose.
For a little extra you could get a Badger sotor20/20 its a finicky airbrush but once you get the hang of it its great.
You really need a decent airbrush, cheap no name knock-off copies will probably put you off airbrushing for life.
The NEO is made for Iwata who make some of the best airbrushes around. Review is here he does raise some issues, but this was written 7 years ago.