Reddit reviews SABRE RED Tactical Pepper Gel with Belt Holster – Gel is Safer – Maximum Police Strength Gel OC Spray, Quick Access Flip Top, 18-foot (5.5 m) Range, 18 Bursts – Designed for Security Personnel

Pepper spray/gel is your friend.

I rarely leave the house without it.

Violence can and will come out of nowhere.

I don't want to kill anyone, I don't own a gun. I'll sure as hell put someone into pepper gel hell if someone is at risk because of them though.

If they have eyeballs or lungs, it'll stop them.

Edit: Amazon Link for the kind I daily carry. Its no joke, if you EVER press down the button for any reason, wash your hands as soon as possible and DON'T EVER TOUCH YOUR FACE until you do. Do not EVER think of it as a toy. Not only will this stuff temporarily blind someone, but it'll also cause them to choke and have problems breathing. This is only meant for very serious situations where someone is committing a felony. Use of it outside those situations and your not protected by the law, your committing assault if not something worse. Spraying this on someone with breathing problems could kill them.

>Buying a gun is not a spur of the moment decision, not everyone is cut out to be a gun owner.

Thank you! This cannot be understated! You are more likley to be harmed or killed with your own gun. Every time the gun is loaded and drawn it must be understood that there is a potential for you, the person wielding the weapon, to shoot. If you shoot in self defense you must shoot to kill.

It's not a wishy washy subject, it's a go big or go home you need to be 100% in and make a careful decision and commit to the training, and do it well.

It's easy to forget those details and just make an off the cuff remark when it's something you grew up around and just 'knew'. So thanks again, Notmykl for the reminder.

OP would likley be in close quarters and need to carefully determine caliber, etc to ensure no walls are pierced, innocent bystanders struck. Tons of varyables to consider. Doubly so with a pending adoption.

You bring a good point especially considering that OP is from the UK and most likley didn't grow up around firearms as many of us in the USA and other countries did.

In that case Tactical Pepper Spray Gel is a better option. Gel is much safer than spray. I've had several police officers suggest this as an alternative to a firearm.

I bought my girls theirs off of Amazon, there are tons of different styles and products. This is the one I bought based on reviews and after talking to a local law enforcement officer in my district. Here is their main website that covers all sorts of safety stuff for law enforcement and private individuals.

They come with an expiration date as well, keep in mind, 4 years.

oh jesus, he's one of those PLS RESPOND losers. I love/hate those.

this one is legit creepy though. he's outright stalking you. jesus christ. you need to get pepper gel. it's like pepper spray, but better. they sell it on amazon for like 5-10 bucks or something. saber is a good brand.

I've relied on that one for years and it's never let me down.

>mist or fog sprays can be susceptible to wind and you could end up spraying yourself if you aren't careful.

Gel spray is the better alternative. It's a bit bigger than traditional self defense sprays.


SABRE RED Pepper Gel - Police Strength - Tactical Series with 18-Foot (5.5M) Range, 18 Bursts & Belt Holster https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004NKSPR8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_vHuRDbNZXHQ0W

I asked my friend who is a gun/self defense nut what brand of pepper spray I should buy. He recommended Saber Red Gel. Its long range, a gel instead of a spray so you're less likely to get sprayed accidentally when you use it, and has tear gas mixed in for good measure. I bought two cans, one for me and one for my girlfriend.

http://www.amazon.com/SABRE-RED-Pepper-Gel-Professional/dp/B004NKSPR8/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1464627838&sr=1-1&keywords=sabre+red

I'd probably also call the cops if you happened to get his licence plate #.

This squirt gun comes preloaded https://www.amazon.com/SABRE-Red-Pepper-Gel-Strength/dp/B004NKSPR8/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=sabre+red+gel&qid=1574388697&sr=8-1

Be very careful with this. Normal men in their 60s do not sexually pursue teenagers. Normal men listen when you say "no."

Next time don't apologize and blame it on policy or an imaginary boyfriend or that you're busy, because that leads this type on and it makes them think you would otherwise be interested, and they will try to wear you down. Don't say "oh I'm sorry, I can't because..."

Just tell the truth: "I am not interested in that. Please don't ask me again."

The most important thing I learned at that age is that you, yourself, have to be the "reason" you're not giving out your number. That gives them nothing to work with. Also, don't smile, don't be cute or quiet or unsure in any way. Make direct eye contact when you say "don't ask me again."

If he persists, escalates, or gets aggressive with you in any way, call the police. Don't deal with it yourself. They will let him know why it is inappropriate for a man in his 60s to try to force a teenager to have sex with him.

You would also be wise to get some pepper gel and keep it on you at all times at work. Better to have it and never use it, than to arrive at that moment wishing you had it. I speak from experience. Be safe.

SABRE RED Pepper Gel - Police Strength - Tactical Series with 18-Foot (5.5M) Range, 18 Bursts & Belt Holster https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004NKSPR8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_OraVBbQQTAKC6

https://www.amazon.com/SABRE-Red-Pepper-Gel-Strength/dp/B004NKSPR8/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1511719520&sr=8-3&keywords=pepper+gel+sabre

Seriously, where are these idiots suggesting bear mace coming from?

If anyone is wondering, this is the one I recommend - $10 - it's the same formula as used by police departments across the country. The key chain attachment makes it easy to tie on a bright colored string lanyard, thus if it's tucked in your purse or pocket you'll easily find it. It's very effective.

If you want to step up in terms of distance, this is the one you want.

These spray a gel like spray, so the likelihood of it blowing in your face is very low.

First of all I don't recommend you get a knife for self defence, first and foremost for legal issues but also for effectiveness and range.

A good quality pepper spray would do a much better job, as you would consider less if to use it or not than to pull out a knife (speaking from experience).

I'd recommend the Sabre Pepper Gel for that task.

As for a good EDC knife - I'd go either with the RAT 1 (was my first serious knife) or the Kershaw Leek/Link if you don't mind it to be assisted.

https://www.amazon.com/SABRE-Red-Pepper-Gel-Strength/dp/B004NKSPR8/?th=1&psc=1

I don't get anything for mentioning it, but it works on both dogs, and dog owners.

I had to Google this thing to see what the heck you're talking about.

https://buy.taser.com/about-the-taser-pulse/

I wouldn't recommend buying a taser that shoots prongs out. If those prongs fail to make proper contact with your target, your taser is now useless. It looks like this model has a stun gun built in as a backup, but at that point you might as well go with a cheap stun gun.

In terms of price and effectiveness, I would rather just purchase several pepper gel canisters and leave them in places such as your back pack, car door pockets, etc.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004NKSPR8

Whatever you decide to carry on campus, I would argument it with a high-power tactical flashlight. Simply walking around with a lit flashlight at night should be enough to give someone pause if they attempt to approach you while you're alone. A tactical flashlight will be able to switch to enough lumen output that you can blind someone with it well your retreat.

https://www.amazon.com/Streamlight-88040-ProTac-Professional-Tactical/dp/B007RB82CS/

Bear spray is considered a pesticide by the epa and as such has standards for humane treatment. It is not meant to incpapacitate as pepper spray is. It isn’t as strong as I thought it was though. (In retrospect this makes sense due to a Bears much greater sense of smell than a person) Pepper sprays have more oil making them thicker and harder to remove. Bear sprays are designed to create a cloud for maximum coverage making where as pepper spray is a stream for less splash damage and blow back.

Pepper spray is totally legal in Colorado if you're using it in self-defense. It's legal to carry and you don't need to warn people around you that you are in possession of it-- in other words, you can conceal carry it legally. I believe it's also legal to brandish it. I carry this with me at all times. Important to use pepper gel and not pepper spray, as it's more wind-resistant and less likely to blow back into your face.

Bear spray usually has a lower OC content than allowed in regular pepper spray - 1-2% for bear spray vs. 10% for humans.

Human Spray - 10% OC http://smile.amazon.com/SABRE-RED-Pepper-Gel-Professional/dp/B004NKSPR8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1425328962&sr=8-2&keywords=pepper+spray+OC

Bear Spray - 2% OC http://smile.amazon.com/Counter-Assault-Deterrent-Holster-10-2-Ounce/dp/B001DQ76JI/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1425329101&sr=8-5&keywords=Bear+Spray

The only advantage of bear spray is that is is designed to shoot farther. If you want to use pepper spray get some designed for humans.

REPORT THIS GUY! As a 19 year old man I can say "Abdul" is a damn creeper, and NOTHING he did could be considered normal or good in the slightest.

Next time someone makes you feel uncomfortable like that, ask them to leave IMMEDIATELY. The safety of you and your wife is not worth a few bucks, people over paper ya know.

Also as other people have said you might want to invest in better security. It's a trust but verify sorta situation, you'd like to think all of your guest are going to be super cool French, hitchhiker, philanthropists, but lets face it, some are going to be like Abdul. You need to prepare yourself for them.

1). Don't ever give them keys, do not give any random asshat with an AirBnB account permanent access to you home. Use something like the reset able combination locks others have suggested.

Also reinforce the hinges and strike plate, it's the most common way exterior doors fail against a home invader. A window reinforcement film is also super useful, it helps prevent windows from shattering when hit with bricks and the like.

2). Get a security system, a fucking loud one. Motion controlled flood lights, sirens, all that shit; messed up fuckers don't like having the whole neighborhoods attention focused on them. Something like this, doesn't require a contract and seems pretty good (Am not endorsing, just found it via Google).

3). If you like dogs, get one. You'll have an amazing furry friend and certain breeds can be intimidating, yet lovable, security puppers

4). Learn how to say no, it's a valuable skill that can be a literal life saver. Maybe go on a ride along with your local PD, see how they deal with belligerent drunks and the like. or you could ask the advice of someone you know is good at resolving this sort of stuff. These aren't the only ideas of course, find what works best for you.

5). A shotgun can be your best friend if perverts decide to take things to the next level. Invest in something like this, a security length barrel, and some self defense ammo (or anything that says "20 gauge, Buckshot, Low recoil, Home Defense," etc. on it).

Also learn how to use it and store it safely, Google around to find local ranges that host intro to shooting/intro to shotgun type classes. You don't have to be Rambo, but getting the basics down pat can turn you into a competent shot-gunner.

Plus trap, skeet, sporting clays, etc. are super fun!

(Tasers, stun guns, collapsible baton and pepper spray are also good alternatives if you don't want to use lethal force)
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Hopefully this give you some idea of how to protect you and yours, stay safe!

This is what I use. I looped the belt strap through one of the straps on my seat pack so I can reach down and grab it quickly.

Funny your name is Saber, because Sabre is definitely the one I rely on.

The best is the Sabre Red Police-Grade Pepper Gel. It comes out in a wide spray of gel like substance, which is awesome because the first thing people do when they get hit in the face is to try to smear it off their face with both hands. But, the more you smear the gel, the worse it gets. It completely incapacitates them for better than typical spray.

It's only 13 dollars, I highly recommend it for any traveler.

https://www.amazon.com/SABRE-RED-Pepper-Gel-Strength/dp/B004NKSPR8/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1549585777&sr=8-3&keywords=sabre+red+spray

If this is legal in your area it's what police use and suggest if you aren't comfortable with a firearm.

It's a gel so it doesn't have the blowback issues common with sprays.

This is a completely valid and understandable reply regarding firearms. Even if it's not a gun, especially if it's not a gun, I still urge you to find a suitable weapon for daily carry.

Sabre pepper gel is reliable, doesn't leak, and because it's a gel as opposed to an aerosolized spray it doesn't atomize in the wind and can't blow back at you. I carry this and a punch dagger (cannot be taken away from you easily because the handle is completely wrapped in your palm).
Stun guns are not generally reliable, but again I recommend Sabre products, they make a stun gun that gets good reviews for reliability and power, and is supposedly effective through up to 3 layers of clothing. Expandable batons and baseball bats also have merits, but I wouldn't recommend either unless your upper body strength is better than average.

The idea is not to attack your ex on sight and it's not to avoid calling the police completely. The idea is to call the police when he shows up and have a last-ditch weapon concealed on your person if his violence escalates to intent to kill (you don't get close to him, but you make damn sure he won't walk away if he gets too close to you).

As I said, guns aren't everyone's cup of tea, and not the best for every situation; however, opting to not have viable self defense options at all is foolish. Please, for your own safety, research some serious self-defense options that will work for your situation. Domestic violence usually escalates over time and I've read too many stories of women that call the cops and try to talk it out every time who are murdered when their abusers finally go off the deep end. Anything is better than nothing, and if you ever have to use it, you're already dead and have nothing to lose.

In his ama Johnny Knoxville said getting sprayed with Sabre red pepper spray was the most painful thing he's ever experienced. I've used it three times (work late nights in a terrible area) and it instantly takes someone out of a fight. It's a lot easier to explain pepper spraying someone to the cops than it is to have to defend why your knuckles are bruised and the other dude is unconscious.

Yeah, I would also say to start carrying pepper spray just in case it's needed as a last resort - it's cheap and portable. If you don't have any experience with it, practice using it (NOT into the wind) so you have some muscle memory if you ever have to actually use it. I like this one.

Depending on your State laws (Such as California) its legal to have better forms of OC Pepper Spray range in capsicum concentration, force distance, etc. Other states require licensing or training or make it illegal for consumers to carry. I'm licensed in the State of California for when I worked as a Security Officer to carry law enforcement grade Pepper spray which is 10% oleoresin capsicum (OC). If your state laws allow it, this is the brand I use that has 10 percent and a higher range (5.5 meters): Sabre Red (gel form) Note: I prefer gel form due to its more idiot proof for me personally. This brand has other forms available.

You should consider getting pepper spray and a taser for when you aren't at home, first step is to check if they are legal where you are.

If you decide to get pepper spray, this kind is a gel, so you don't have to worry about where the wind is coming from. As for a taser, this one appealed to me because it is designed to make it difficult for it to be taken from you.

This one. Gel because it's windy. Apparently it takes 20 seconds to kick in. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004NKSPR8/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_awdb_t1_eGq9AbK1YCRQJ

This may help too

Buy this one: http://www.amazon.com/SABRE-RED-Pepper-Gel-Professional/dp/B004NKSPR8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1456956705&sr=8-1&keywords=pepper+gel

I unfortunately had to use it twice - one at an uncollared rottweiler that was running at me and my dog and another on a would-be mugger/whatever at night. They both dropped immediately.

In addition to a bat, I have a couple containers of pepper gel inconspicuously placed around my house in case of a situation like this.

• Pepper Spray - You can keep 4 legged and 2 legged animals away. I like the foam versions.
  
• Crank/Solar Flashlight/Radio/Phone Charger - Lets you get updates on news and weather and allows you to replace your flashlight (keep the headlamp) with this.
  
• Whistle - They really weigh a fraction of an ounce so no reason not to have one for emergencies.
  
• Small notepad and pen - Writing down notes (like if the news lists a set of roads that are totally blocked or whatever)
  
• Cards - if you think you will get bored.
  
• Glow Sticks - Fire may not be your friend in a big city. A few 8-12 hour glow sticks could come in handy.
  
  It did not sound like you were looking at a true SHTF emergency so I left out things like a flat pry bar or silock key or some of the other larger items you would not need just because of a hurricane or something.

For the most part this was exactly the outcome you could hope for. You are self aware and continually check your surroundings for exactly this purpose. They identified you as a potential target but then you engaged them, identified them, and chose the wisest path of egress. You did not present the easy target they may have been searching for.

IMHO, groups like this are only a threat as long as they're together. While personal alarms (almost as effective as car alarms), and stun guns hold a purpose neither would be effective in this situation. Pepper spray could strike multiple opponents and buy you the time to Get Outta Dodge. Keep doing what you're doing. Consider adding something like this to your daily carry: https://www.amazon.com/SABRE-Red-Pepper-Gel-Strength/dp/B004NKSPR8/ref=sr_1_4?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1484697105&sr=1-4&keywords=pepper+spray+self+defense

Don't be afraid to challenge, appear mentally unstable, or to engage early if you're threatened. Best of luck.

I keep a can of pepper gel in my backpack, and my backpack is always with me during the work week. My SO keeps the same type of pepper spray in her purse (or a smaller little pink one on her keychain—she doesn't have her CPL), so, yeah, I usually have pepper spray with me somehow.

I really only have it in case I run across a neighborhood dog that wants to taste me or if I have to go somewhere I could get arrested for carrying. I also bring it with me to the gym since I'm afraid my old Corolla will get stolen and I don't want to leave my gun in a gym locker.

Dang it!! Fixed

I think I'll go with this

"Spray" is ok, but that crap can bite you in the ass if the wind is blowing. Look into Pepper "Gel" http://www.amazon.com/SABRE-RED-Pepper-Gel-Professional/dp/B004NKSPR8/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1427094432&sr=1-1&keywords=pepper+gel because it minimizes the chance of cross contamination. You don't want to incapacitate yourself accidentally. Pepper ____ is god awful stuff that makes grown men cry, scream and can cause temporary blindness. The affects can last for 45 minutes, which is a really long time to be in shear agony when you are trying to escape a situation.

Reposting something I submitted earlier this month:

Do not let Trump supporters attack you without a response.

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Learn about your local and state laws on gun ownership.

https://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/state-gun-laws/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_the_United_States_by_state

Locate a fire arm retailer

http://localfirearms.com/411/gun-dealer-directory

http://grabagun.com/

http://www.gunshopfinder.com/

http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/category/index.jsp?categoryId=33613696

http://www.gandermountain.com/guns/


Locate instructors and classes for training

http://www.pinkpistols.org this group focuses on educating LGBTQ folks in the safety and usage of firearms for self defense.

http://findnra.nra.org/

http://www.nrainstructors.org/search.aspx

https://gandermtnacademy.gandermountain.com/training/find-classes


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Don't let them think they can get away with their attacks and hate. Make LGBTQ and Women the most armed demographics in the country. Make the Republicans hesitate before they think they can subjugate us.

Carry pepper spray. Sabre Red Pepper Gel is a gel-based police strength pepper spray.

Like guns, pepper spray (especially the 'police strength' type) have their own laws and restrictions, which you can read here and here.

While pepper spray is the "more comfortable" option for those unfamiliar with firearms, please remember it has limited range dependent on the size and design of the canister, and factors such as air movement can even end up blowing the spray into your eyes (making yourself vulnerable, although this risk is mitigated by using gel sprays). A gun has more range, and is not stopped by simple barriers. You can read more about using pepper spray in self defense here.

We need to be able to take action immediately, and in such a way that they are deterred from attacking us again.

Bears have much more sensitive noses and are typically fended-off from a longer distance. It's a much bigger can and it makes a big cloud. Pepper gel comes in a much smaller canister and is supposed to be safer to use and more effective on humans.

Better yet, get the same product with inert contents.

Real pepper gel

inert cannister for practice/training

This is the one I carry because it shoots a stream from a far distance.
https://www.amazon.com/SABRE-RED-Pepper-Gel-Strength/dp/B004NKSPR8/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=saber+pepepr+gel&qid=1555556593&s=gateway&sr=8-1-spell

This one.

SABRE RED Pepper Gel - Police Strength - Tactical Series with 18-Foot (5.5M) Range, 18 Bursts & Belt Holster https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004NKSPR8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_3OGTBb3VDJTRC

Sabre makes a gel version, so does Fox Labs.

use the gel then https://www.amazon.com/SABRE-Red-Pepper-Gel-Strength/dp/B004NKSPR8/ref=sr_1_11?s=hunting-fishing&ie=UTF8&qid=1518470095&sr=1-11&keywords=pepper+spray

It might be a good time to mention getting some pepper spray. Sabre Red makes some small ones that are a gel type (much less chance of it blowing back in your own face) and they're only about $9 on Amazon. They have a slightly bigger size for $13 that has a longer range too.

I work in the home services field and have been attacked by dogs on 3 occasions.


I used this each time and never ended up with a bite.

I've also used this with same results.


Why the fuck would you shoot a dog if you didn't need to? Why bring that legal shitstorm into your life?


Are you dipshits just chomping at the bit to use your gun in a self defense role? You really need to stop.

I can't imagine pulling my G19 on a stupid dog.

Learn how to use pepper spray. A good pepper spray.

http://www.colonialshooting.com/vab/event-type/handgun-1/

https://revolutionbjj.com/

https://www.amazon.com/SABRE-Red-Pepper-Gel-Strength/dp/B004NKSPR8/ref=pd_sim_200_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=S67T92SV3HNRZC1ECAN8

https://us.glock.com/products/model/g26gen4

http://www.vaguntrader.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/1233431#Post1233431

This is why I open-carry an Omega Star-Warrior Stun Baton at night. Don't let the 150k Volts fool you - it's the amps that cause pain.

Also, police-strength pepper gel that shoots up to 18 feet away.

Both, legal to open-carry where I am.

Best thing you can do, short of a firearms license.

EDIT: Everyone must watch that last link - it's fucking hilarious.

EDIT2: Wow, fuck ya'll haters.