Reddit reviews Seasonic FOCUS Plus 650 Gold SSR-650FX 650W 80+ Gold ATX12V & EPS12V Full Modular 120mm FDB Fan 10 Year Warranty Compact 140mm Size Power Supply

Looks fairly modular to me: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B073H33X7R/ref=asc_df_B073H33X7R58610211/

Besides it's in my rig.

It's probably the worst time it's been to buy a 8700. They are way over priced and if you had to buy one you looking at about £150 premium on what they were a couple of months ago. That's across the board for Intel chips. Even 7600K chips are hitting £180 when they were about £120.

If you buying a CPU that can overclock then you probably should, especially if you have a reasonable cooler already.

I would probably push you to consider an AMD build in the current market as it's better value, I'm sure someone here can provide a decent AMD equivalent build as I'm pretty out of the loop.

If you are picking up a GTX 1080 you should pair the with a 1440p or higher monitor. Probably ideal to pick up a 144hz+ 1440p monitor. (Unless you want 240hz).

RAM prices are crashing and there's been lots of really good deals about, if you can spot a deal just go for it, anything from 2666 and up will do you fine.

You probably want a NVME drive as a boot drive so pickup the NVME version. Could go as low as a 256GB NVME and pickup a cheap 1TB SSD for storage (prices are pretty low and 'black friday' is coming up).

Personally I would swap the PSU for a Seasonic Focus Plus PSU but they aren't miles apart.

The BQ series is kinda meh, I would buy this one instead, it's the best PSU on the market, is fully modular, and costs the same:

https://www.amazon.com/Seasonic-SSR-650FX-ATX12V-Modular-Compact/dp/B073H33X7R/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1522686434&sr=1-1&keywords=seasonic+focus+plus+gold

The PSU efficiency ratings actually refer to how much extra power the PSU has to pull from the wall to provide the rated power to the components. Remember that your PSU is converting the AC current from the wall into DC current for your components. Your PSU cannot maintain 100% of the wattage it draws from the wall through to the components. It will actually provide less wattage than it draws from the AC power source.

Because of that, PSUs are rated by how much power they can (supposedly) supply to the components, not how much power they need to pull from the wall. So a PSU rated for 500W at 80+ efficiency should theoretically be able to supply 500W to the PC, but to do so it will to pull about 625W from the wall (500/.8 = 625). Higher efficiency ratings like Gold or Platinum means that it may pull less from the wall to hit that 500W. So like, if a Platinum rated PSU is 90% efficient, it may be able to supply its components with 500W but it only pulls 556W from the wall (500/.9).

Generally PSUs rated above 80% efficiency are just given the Bronze/Silver/Gold/Platinum/etc. system rather than hard numbers. I'm not sure precisely why this is other than that manufacturers feel they may not be able to guarantee efficiencies above 80% one hundred percent of the time.

That said I am not an expert so somebody may come along and correct this a bit.

Just buy used version only $80.74

650 watt is good for future

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B073H33X7R/ref=olp_twister_child?ie=UTF8&mv_size_name=3&mv_style_name=1&qid=1540459359&sr=1-1

Thanks for the help. So a Seasonic focus gold plus would be fine? It has the correct cables? https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Computer-Power-Supply-Components/Seasonic-SSR-650FX-FOCUS-Power-Supply/B073H33X7R

It's not really a good PSU for the price.

Seasonic Focus Gold 550W | 650W

EVGA G2 550W | 650W

Corsair TXM 550W | 650W

For anyone that misses the PSU(btw great deal!) Amazon has some Seasonic Focus+ units for good prices. Might be normal, but I just discovered!

[I got this 650w gold rated modular for $77 after rebate] (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073H33X7R/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_MskOAbNRADKXJ)

That is a low end psu not meant for gaming PCs.

This is a high end psu below $100.

Seasonic FOCUS Plus 650 Gold SSR-650FX 650W 80+ Gold ATX12V & EPS12V Full Modular 120mm FDB Fan 10 Year Warranty Compact 140mm Size Power Supply https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073H33X7R/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_WNEMDb0NR6RYD

Also, for reference regarding PSUs...

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1045610-new-psu-tier-list/

https://youtu.be/QJ_VV3UjEBY

If you are going to have a motherboard in your computer and you were not planning on using custom cables, a semi-modular PSU will work just fine.

Historically the TXM line has been good. Although, I would feel a lot better if you put this Seasonic in, instead (I do have a particular love for Seasonic and Super Flower, though):

https://www.amazon.it/Seasonic-Focus-Alimentatore-650W-Nero/dp/B073H33X7R/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1538748325&sr=1-1&keywords=seasonic+650

(and it is fully modular, like BeefWehelington so enjoys)

> optiplex 9010

Ah, I think that model can't accept regular front 120mm fans

And I'm not sure about psu. I guess they do sell compact sized ATX PSU like this:

https://www.amazon.com/Seasonic-SSR-650FX-Modular-Warranty-Compact/dp/B073H33X7R/

140mm / 5.51 inches

Expensive though

"Compact" models seem to vary from 140mm to 150mm

That's a pretty good build indeed, pretty similar to what I have myself. Except I would definatly try to pull a 1070ti. The 10-series are going down in price and a lot of them are actually on sale right now due to the announcements and pre-orders of the 20 series. If you do so you will probably want some 650w psu to power it and have some upgrading potential. (I recommend the Seasonic gold https://www.amazon.com/Seasonic-SSR-650FX-Modular-Warranty-Compact/dp/B073H33X7R ) Good luck dude! hope you will enjoy your pc gaming experience :)

I don't know EU prices, but I'm always a fan of EVGA PSUs. Seasonic is also suppose to be pretty good while being slightly cheaper. Just bought a Seasonic PSU put in my wife's new build.

These are just alternatives I would trust, not sure if they meet your needs or not.

This Seasonic 650w Gold

This Seasonic 620w Bronze

This EVGA 650 G3 Gold

Any of those would be great choices. There’s a 650w Platinum Seasonic if you wanna get real crazy for $100 after rebate. But you probably don’t need a platinum psu.

If you want even cheaper I can recommend some but you’ll lose full modular in exchange for semi or non-modular.

Thanks for the list I always wonder what to buy for my next build, between this two:


https://www.amazon.de/Seasonic-Modular-Netzteil-Computer-Gaming/dp/B073H33X7R/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1524348350&sr=8-2&keywords=seasonic+prime+650


http://www2.seasonic.com/product/prime-650-w-gold/

I'm seeing this same one on Amazon, but with a $40 MIR? Total price ends up $39.99. How does this work? A double rebate? I haven't really done this rebate thing, would appreciate if someone could chip in on this.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073H33X7R/ref=twister_B07547XN78?_encoding=UTF8&th=1

OK here's my current status. Thanks very much to everyone that is helping me with this :) Currently the whole thing is from Amazon and is sitting at $1,142.57 before shipping.

• GIGABYTE B450 I AORUS PRO WiFi Our starting point. Purely because Tom's liked it.
  
• AMD Ryzen 7 2700 Same.
  
• Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 Windforce 8G Graphics Card Because the 2080 from Toms seems overpowered for what I want/need. As u/Overload_inc suggested it might be worth me stepping down to the 2060 and using the extra cash to buy a correctly matched monitor? My current one is 10 years old and I'm guessing therefore not cool.
  
• MyDigitalSSD BPX Pro 512gig SSD The price difference makes it seem like a no brainer to go M.2 on the SSD. Could be convinced to go 1TB though this model got on Tom's best list for good longevity.
  
• Patriot Viper 4 Series Extreme Performance DDR4 16GB (2 X 8GB) 3200MHz Kit Purely because it has no lights on it. I did not dive into caring about timing stats or anything like that. Would be happy to fiddle with this more.
  
• Seasonic FOCUS Plus 650 Gold SSR-650FX 650W Didn't google. Straight from Toms. Given that I downgraded the video card it may be that 650 is too much?
  
• NZXT H500 – Compact ATX Mid-Tower Case because it looks fine and can get it prime from amazon.

Can you tell me if this one is any good?

Seasonic FOCUS Plus Series SSR-650FX 650W 80+ Gold ATX12V & EPS12V Full Modular 120mm FDB Fan Compact 140mm Size Power Supply https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073H33X7R/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_UASaBbKJFZQP5

Amazon has the full modular version of that power supply for almost the same price ($92 vs 88).
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073H33X7R/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_OWhRCbZCWMDX3

What GPU you have? Figure a healthy 250W for everything in your system before a GPU, and add for instance ~300W for a 2080 ti, so for that total draw of 550W, I'd spec a 750 or 850W 80+ Gold to give some leeway for spikes and the efficiency curve.

On the other hand if you're going for something like a 2070, the GPU power draw would be closer to only 200W, so something like a 650W 80+Gold.

I use SeaSonic power supplies in all of my PC's.

Something like this https://www.amazon.fr/Seasonic-SSR-650FX-Modular-Warranty-Compact/dp/B073H33X7R

I plan on going with [this] (https://www.amazon.de/Seasonic-Modular-Netzteil-Computer-Gaming/dp/B073H33X7R/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1520580943&sr=8-2&keywords=Seasonic) one, because I'd be able to use it for a while.

I'd recommend this one.

That other Seasonic unit is pretty old at this point. Still good, but there are improvements to be had.

Spend the extra few dollars, just for piece of mind

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073H33X7R/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_fPPVAb7QWTHE3

got this in the cart

Seasonic FOCUS Plus 650 Gold SSR-650FX 650W 80+ Gold ATX12V & EPS12V Full Modular 120mm FDB Fan 10 Year Warranty Compact 140mm Size Power Supply https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073H33X7R/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_K0F5CbDZ32536

this power supply was recommended https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073H33X7R/?tag=pcpapi-20

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how does it beat this one for 25 less?

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https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171128&ignorebbr=1

PSU: https://www.amazon.com/Seasonic-SSR-650FX-Modular-Warranty-Compact/dp/B073H33X7R

Ram: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233852&cm_re=3000mhz_cl15-_-20-233-852-_-Product


Or anything 3000mhz or better and CL15 or better.

$50 more for a small performance boost, 3200 CL15, this is as good as it reasonably gets: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232221&cm_re=2x8gb_3200mhz_cl15-_-20-232-221-_-Product

Lost my psu cable while moving. Can I just but a random cable on Amazon or should I buy a specific type/one sold by the company?

As was already said, maybe up the PSU. In theory, 550W should be plenty, but on my first build all the Wattage calculators told me 520W was fine ... it was not. So I tend to err on the side of caution nowadays.
You could buy the Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 650. A bit cheaper plus 650W, what's not to like?
You could go cheaper on the cpu cooler and the case, but it depends on your overclocking plans and features you want in your case

Is it though, it's PRIME / Platinum that's premium for Seasonic right?

650w goes for $90 hardly budget I do agree but worth the initial hit to the wallet, mid range then? lol. The PRIME / Platinum models which are the ones I consider premium are in the 200s

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Seasonic-SSR-650FX-FOCUS-Power-Supply/dp/B073H33X7R/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1539178125&sr=8-2-fkmr0&keywords=SeaSonic+Focus+Plus+Gold+lineup

Will that do the job?

Is this one a good substitute?

https://www.amazon.de/Seasonic-Focus-Plus-650W-Modular-Netzteil/dp/B073H33X7R/ref=pd_sbs_147_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B073H33X7R&pd_rd_r=a47180f8-da2f-11e8-8572-bff4bf7a5c64&pd_rd_w=04uGh&pd_rd_wg=m7YoP&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&pf_rd_p=51bcaa00-4765-4e8f-a690-5db3c9ed1b31&pf_rd_r=3295JPSA8YVDY9B1KJ35&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=3295JPSA8YVDY9B1KJ35

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Also, what exactly is wrong with the first one I had?

Ended up going for this one https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073H33X7R/?tag=pcpapi-20

Cheap - https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-100-BR-0600-K1-Bronze-Power-Supply/dp/B07DTP6QKG/ref=sr_1_6?crid=Y3XDOAYPVQ33&keywords=power+supply&qid=1568246886&sprefix=power+sup%2Caps%2C254&sr=8-6
Medium - https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-MPY-6501-ACAAG-US-Certified-Supply/dp/B07H5KFBB9/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=cooler+master+psu&qid=1568246575&sr=8-4

Rich - https://www.amazon.com/Seasonic-SSR-650FX-Modular-Warranty-Compact/dp/B073H33X7R/ref=sr_1_8?crid=Y3XDOAYPVQ33&keywords=power+supply&qid=1568246886&sprefix=power+sup%2Caps%2C254&sr=8-8

You can go with two power supplies, but you don't need to do that and your case probably won't fit two supplies. Your system likely draws less than 550Watts.

https://www.amazon.com/Seasonic-SSR-650FX-Modular-Warranty-Compact/dp/B073H33X7R/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=seasonic+%27power+supply&qid=1569097956&s=gateway&sr=8-1

https://www.amazon.com/Seasonic-SSR-650FX-ATX12V-Modular-Compact/dp/B073H33X7R. ?

Thanks so much for your help, this is extremely helpful.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Seasonic-FOCUS-Plus-Power-Supply/dp/B073H33X7R/ref=sr_1_3?s=computers&rps=1&ie=UTF8&qid=1522756650&sr=1-3&keywords=seasonic+psu&refinements=p_76%3A419158031

Does this seem like a good choice/price then?

Great! I will look into the 1080ti, is the rest of my build good enough to handle it and not restrict it?

Oops sorry about that part. I would get this power supply:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073H33X7R/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_R-ahDbDV248TP

It costs more but will last you a lot longer. If you plan to upgrade then the psu should be at least 650w. This one also comes with like a 10 year warranty.

This is my psu. Would you use 2 cables?

And also, I've used Seasonic's Wattage Calculator as well as I've looked at the recommended Wattage according to the graphics card and the results are ~420 W minimum to 550 W recommended. So your PSU will do the job, however if you've got some spare cash I'd consider upgrading it to Seasonic's Focus Plus 650W 80+ Gold Modular power supply. Higher wattage capacity should increase its efficiency and keep it cooler as a result (plus it allows for further upgrades in the future). It's not an absolute must, however. You should check whether it's compatible if you plan to get it.

Edit: Considerably more important: buy more case fans. One case fan typically won't provide enough airflow. Atleast 2 more would be a good idea.

1. You are better off buying a Ryzen 1600 with a cheaper set of 2666 or 3000 RAM
   
   
2. You are better off getting a more modern wifi chipset with wireless AC.
   
   
3. For PSU Seasonic M12ii is a very old platform. You can get much better deals on sale such as this one if you don't mind the rebate: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073H33X7R/ref=twister_B07547XN78?_encoding=UTF8&th=1
   
   
4. I'm generally not a big fan of GTX 1060 6GB when RX 480 8GB is similar in price.

This is a decent option: ready for prime delivery. It's not modular but it's a good psu and 700w, bronze rated.

BE QUIET T380703 700 W System Power 9 Power Supply Unit - Black https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B079KHM3ZR/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_YuBrDbYHJA4SN

Better quality but a bit more expensive:

Seasonic SSR-650FX FOCUS Plus Gold 650W (80+Gold, ATX 12V) PSU/Power Supply- Black https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B073H33X7R/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_pyBrDb9Y6WN0A

https://www.amazon.co.uk/EVGA-BRONZE-Modular-Compact-220-B3-0650-V3/dp/B071NL8YZH/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?keywords=EVGA+-+B3+650+W+80%2B+Bronze+Certified+Fully+Modular+ATX+Power+Supply&qid=1563127905&s=computers&sr=1-1-fkmr0

or https://www.amazon.co.uk/Seasonic-SSR-650FX-FOCUS-Power-Supply/dp/B073H33X7R/?th=1

I'm pretty stuck maybe you have another option? system draws like 400

change PSU to https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B073H33X7R/?tag=pcp0f-21 , worth the extra few pounds.

I'd maybe shop around for cheaper ram as £100 for 16Gb seems a bit steep.

Check if you can get a better motherboard if you have the budget.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073H33X7R/?tag=pcpapi-20

... no, replacing your current terrible power supply with the same terrible one is not acceptable. You are spending $700 on just a video card. You can afford to spend a couple bucks more on a power supply that doesn't kill all your brand new expensive components the second you put load on the GPU.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B073H33X7R

It's like buying a $250,000 supercar and then filling it with shit tier watered down 87 octane gas from "Bob's Gas" because it's $0.05 cheaper.

Odd that you want to build this yesterday but okay.

Jokes aside, I’ve got a brand new build for you because your rig is pretty dated and if you’ve got $800 you can definitely afford a new system.

|Component|Title|Price|
|:-|:-|:-|
|CPU|Ryzen 5 3400G + Vega 11 GPU|$149 (Amazon US)|
|GPU|Empty GPU|$0 (Amazon US)|
|RAM|(2x8GB) Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000|$74 (Amazon US)|
|Motherboard|Gigabyte B450M DS3H|$70 (Amazon US)|
|Storage|Crucial P1 500GB|$66 (Amazon US)|
|Storage 2|Empty Storage|$0 (Amazon US)|
|Power Supply|Seasonic FOCUS Plus 650 Gold|$88 (Amazon US)|
|Case|Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L|$35 (Amazon US)|
|Monitor|Empty Monitor|$0 (Amazon US)|

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It doesn’t quite take up all of your budget but if you want something a bit better you can toss in a 2060 to that build.