Reddit reviews Sewell Wii to HDMI Converter, Low Latency, 480p

https://www.amazon.com/Sewell-HDMI-Converter-Latency-480p/dp/B0072JP56G

We already have a lagless way to play melee on monitors. The problem is melee players are pretty particular about lag and decent monitors are expensive. It saves a ton of space but 1k+ is a lot of money if you want to have like 10 setups.

One of the reasons melee is so uniquely successful at a local level is because setups are cheap as fuck so you have people like me who can buy 4-5 full setups for the price of 1 monitor or console and can host a tourney anywhere or make sure there's always enough setups for friendlies.

That said a melee re release would still being melee to a new audience, hopefully it just isn't laggy.

This is really good for a Wii. Converts the output to HDMI.

Sewell Wii to HDMI Converter, Low Latency, 480p

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0072JP56G/

Edit: why downvotes? This was super recommended in a recent thread about an HDTV setup?

you're absolutely right that there is dedicated hardware which can do it out there -- for example these are a common recommendation -- but they've only recently come down in price. Free CRTs from the trash are cheaper (and simpler to explain to the non-technical members of the community, though it can lead to misunderstandings as in this thread)

You do NOT need a CRT.

Please stop growing this myth!

For the 9000th time, you can play EASILY with gaming monitors (which you probably already have for your FGC games) on console.

All you do is buy a $30 Wii2HDMI adapter that acts as a passthrough and doesn't add any lag. Sewell is the best brand.

You can also play via emulation on your PC with Ishiiruka/Faster Melee - a fork of the popular Dolphin emulator. This also allows you to play matches online.

The point is: PLEASE STOP saying you NEED a CRT

https://www.amazon.com/Sewell-HDMI-Converter-Latency-480p/dp/B0072JP56G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1485388144&sr=8-1&keywords=sewell+hdmi+adapter+wii

Sorry for the yelling lol

Thanks :P

Lagless HDMI converters for Wii have existed for a long time.

Here are two tested lagless HDMI adapters meant specifically for the Nintendo Wii:

http://www.neoya.com/wii2hdmi

http://www.amazon.com/Sewell-Wii-HDMI-Converter-480p/dp/B0072JP56G/

Regarding 3, just use a Sewell adapter for Wii. It causes basically no lag and is much more affordable (the lag from a "lagless" LED monitor will have more impact than the adapter). Note that it'll still be slower than CRT, but if you have a good enough monitor it shouldn't make a big difference.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0072JP56G/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1478198903&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX200_SY289_QL65&keywords=sewell+wii+hdmi&dpPl=1&dpID=118FI5oLlGL&ref=plSrch

This is what I use for a portable setup I made. We use it for tournaments around here and no one can feel any lag. A couple say it even feels faster but I think that's the sharper visuals from my monitor

This, but if you go with a Wii2HDMI, make sure it's one of the ones that doesn't upscale to 1080p. The Sewell one is a safe bet.

If he absolutely refuses to play on anything else, even if you'll provide a CRT, then I'd recommend getting something like the Sewell HDMI converter.

It won't make everything perfect but it should help with a fair amount of the lag. That said the TV probably still has display lag and will have to upscale the image, but it helps a lot with the lag from digital analogue conversion.

If you want to get HDMI out of a Wii, a Wii2HDMI converter will probably perform better than any generic Composite to HDMI converter you're likely to find.

http://www.amazon.com/Sewell-Wii-HDMI-Converter-480p/dp/B0072JP56G/

You need to output the Wii in 480p (Progressive Scan) mode to get recordings in 60fps. This isn't possible with a Composite Cable. Your options for this are:

A. Component Cable For Wii

B. Sewell HDMI Converter for Wii

The HDMI converter is essentially lagless (less than 1 frame) and allows you to output in 480p. I know many players who use this, and even bring their low-lag monitors + this adapter to tournaments.

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> For those who want to play #SSBM on an HD gaming monitor, your best option by far is Sewell Wii to HDMI http://www.amazon.com/Sewell-Wii-HDMI-Converter-480p/dp/B0072JP56G/

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For practical and tournament use, everyone plays on a 60hz CRT. I'm sure some CRT's can break that number, but there's no point playing on those since those aren't the standard and never will be. It's honestly best for the community to start to adopt to A gaming monitor -> Wii -> wii2hdmi adapter -> hdmi cable. That way we can move to monitors like every other competitive game, while incurring essentially no additional input lag(~2ms). Something like [this] (https://www.amazon.com/Sewell-HDMI-Converter-Latency-480p/dp/B0072JP56G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1493707468&sr=8-1&keywords=sewell+wii+hdmi) can be connected any modern monitor, and allow Melee to be played offline on a monitor even without Dolphin.

This seems like a tremendous investment to do something you can already do with a wii, a low latency monitor, and a good hdmi adapter.

I'm not against console modding at all (I do and enjoy it myself from time to time) but you can already build a setup like this with negligible lag without any heavy modifications to existing hardware.

The LGP has a random blackout issue. You'll be playing and then all of a sudden, BAM, blackout for 1 or 2 seconds. It's very sensitive to voltage when being used with the Component input, so much so that even plugging in controllers can cause it to black out sometimes.

We have been working on a solution, but as of right now this is a good solution, but has no recording capabilities, although you could get the LGP and this and just record over HDMI where there's no chance of blackout (that's what I do): http://www.amazon.com/Sewell-Wii-HDMI-Converter-480p/dp/B0072JP56G/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398017066&sr=8-1-fkmr1&keywords=sewell+wii2hdmi+480p.

The Elgato Game Capture HD has been rumored to be just as fast as the LGP when it comes to conversion as well as will let you record, but Fizzi hasn't pulled any real numbers on it yet as far as I know.

With either of these options, you need the right monitor as well if you are going for a HD lagless setup. Both the BenQ RL2455HM and the Evo monitor are tried and true for our purposes, but many other gaming monitors could work depending on their quality.

Here's the (sadly out of stock) link. That's the exact one I bought and it's amazing even on my ~2ms ASUS monitor.

I use a Wii with a Sewell low-latency Wii to HDMI adapter that outputs a 480p feed to my BenQ 1080p monitor. The progressive scan makes a huge quality difference for sure. From what I understand it's a YPbPr component to RGB/HDMI converter, on top of the analog to digital conversion that it handles.

I do not emulate as emulators are currently not allowed on the leaderboards.

While we don’t have a really good quality HDMI plug-and-play solution like how the GameCube has the GCHD, HDMyCube, etc; this is currently the “best” hdmi solution under $100.

Sewell Wii to HDMI Converter, Low Latency, 480p https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0072JP56G/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_TcD1CbY48RP96

https://www.amazon.com/Sewell-HDMI-Converter-Latency-480p/dp/B0072JP56G

This is a proven source for good ones. Melee community recommends it but, it's pretty pricey.

It's this Sewell Wii HDMI adapter
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0072JP56G/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_ep_dp_ZyQAybHF5245D

http://www.amazon.com/Sewell-Wii-HDMI-Converter-480p/dp/B0072JP56G/

Like I said it does over-gamma the signal a bit. An alternative also tested as lagless is this C&E component to HDMI. It doesn't over gamma the signal, but requires you have the wii component cables. It has bad reviews but supposedly works and most of the reviews seem like they are from people who know nothing about technology.

http://www.amazon.com/Component-YPbPr-HDMI-converter-v1-3/dp/B009EA7ZUA/ref=pd_sim_e_6?ie=UTF8&refRID=0T1V0ZSVWX803ABT728C

Get this one, it's what different stream setups use:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0072JP56G/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

This one is known to not have any lag in the conversion process, so if you have a good gaming monitor, you should be fine.

I use this and have a 1 ms gaming monitor, and even my stingiest and tech skill orientated friends are happy to play on it.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0072JP56G/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

hd gamecube cables are just component. you can buy wii component cables cheap, or get one of these. total cost > $75.

Refer to this post

I am using this monitor and this adapter

I used to play on a CRT and I would recommend my new setup to anyone.

This is a suitable workaround to the non-analog issue

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0072JP56G?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s02

(unfortunately it's sold out on Amazon currently, but there may be good enough alternatives if you search around the related items)

You also need a proper converter to get minimal lag. Either this or this. Both have been tested to work fine (the C&E supposedly looks better though).

Could you elaborate as to why?

EDIT: Ok I can see why now, but isn't the Sewell adapter that I have already doing the converting from analog to digital? So it would seem to me that HDMI => DVI should work.... but it doesn't.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0072JP56G/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Here you go
and this was the reddit post that made me get it:

http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/28wx41/is_this_the_correct_way_to_setup_a_lagless_lcd/

I play with headphones all the time!

You will want a BenQ RL2455HM or any of the 1ms response monitors and this adaptor.

Sewell Wii to HDMI Converter, 480p https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0072JP56G/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_.Kqxwb0CK0T1C

CRT are those big ass tv that your grandma probably has laying around. Basically you can't use a flat screen tv cause it has too much lag.

You should get something like this if you want to play using a wii.

OKay, does anyone know if there is a different Sewell HDMI to wii adapter than the one I bought. My monitor has 11ms response time, and all the Benq monitors have 10, yet I hear stories about how lagless a monitor and that setup is, yet I can barely play when comparing it to my CRT. It's not bad, but it's enough that I notice.

Ah ok. I saw a couple places saying it could range up to 30ms, which is what I was mainly concerned about. I was looking at this Sewell Wii to HDMI converter which I think would work nicely, I've read good things about it: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0072JP56G/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awd_7PQMwbXBW4PTZ

I've been doing so much research on this the past couple days and I still feel very uneasy about it all hahaha

> The Wii U does provide better image quality for Wii games and lower lag/input delay

No, it doesn't. It lags more outing Gamecube/Wii games through the HDMI cable than it does if you use the third party adapter that's widely used since it has almost no input lag: https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0072JP56G/

I asked the maker of this and he stated that the WiiU's HDMI lags more.

I just ordered one for the Wii from Amazon that doesn't scale, and is described as 'low latency'. I was hoping to find something similar for PS2, without having to buy a bunch to test out.

https://www.amazon.com/Sewell-HDMI-Converter-Latency-480p/dp/B0072JP56G
This one?

i also just saw this http://www.amazon.com/Sewell-Wii-HDMI-Converter-480p/dp/B0072JP56G/

This one worked really well for me

The Sewell adapter is a bit pricier than the other one linked but it's the best adapter out there if you're sensitive to lag. It's used in conjunction with lagless monitors as a replacement for CRT TVs in Smash Bros. tournaments.

pick up the Sewell Wii to HDMI converter. I use it, and there is no noticeable latency. https://www.amazon.com/Sewell-HDMI-Converter-Latency-480p/dp/B0072JP56G

If you use a Wii to play Gamecube games, you can use a Wii2HDMI converter to make your Wii output 480p over an HDMI cable (after changing from 480i to 480p in Wii settings). Keep in mind that this isn't true HD (which is anything 720p and above), but it should clear up any muddy glare.

For specific Wii2HDMI converters, I recommend the Sewell Wii2HDMI brand (amazon), which has been tested in an article I will link at the bottom. However, it seems to be out of stock as of right now.

You can search "Wii2HDMI" on Amazon or whatever online store you use to find a similar model. I recommend a model that does not perform upscaling, which means finding one that outputs 480p, not 720p. Let the TV upscale the image instead. However, looking through Amazon's catalog, I don't see very many that output unscaled 480p (some don't even specify a truly 480p output), so getting a 720p/1080p upscaling Wii2HDMI converter is fine.

Also, I would recommend a gaming monitor in order to minimize display lag that can ruin timings. For general-purpose gaming, I recommend either the BenQ RL2455HM or the BenQ RL2455HM. Both are the same, except that one is 24 inches and the other is 27 inches.

If you choose a gaming monitor, I also recommend getting headphones or a stereo speaker system. The speakers in my setup is the Logitech Speaker System Z313

Here's a quote for total costs.

Wii2HDMI + {monitor} + Speakers + HDMI cable

• RL2455HM (24 inch) = ~25.00 + ~180.00 + ~40.00 + ~8.00 = $253
  
  
• RL2755HM (27 inch) = ~25.00 + ~260.00 + ~40.00 + ~8.00 = $333
  
  If you're looking for details on display lag, you can refer to this Smash Bros article and this Smash Bros post. A Sewell Wii2HDMI + RL2455HM has 2 ms more display lag than a CRT TV, which is almost nothing because a 60fps frame is 16 ms per frame.

Sounds like a bad HDMI converter. Return it and grab this one. It's high quality, approved for use in Smash Bros. tournaments, and tested and approved by me! I've had no problems with it, even though it is more expensive than the unbranded Chinese knockoffs.

Use this adapter instead https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0072JP56G/ref=cm_sw_su_dp Wii2HDMI is laggy

is this the one your talking about?, i wanna get one but dont wanna dish out 150$

https://www.amazon.com/Sewell-HDMI-Converter-Latency-480p/dp/B0072JP56G

you could still get the e300 but buy an hdmi converter like this for $30:

http://www.amazon.com/Sewell-Wii-HDMI-Converter-480p/dp/B0072JP56G/

Running it through dolphin is a good idea. If you've got $20 these http://www.amazon.com/Sewell-Wii-HDMI-Converter-480p/dp/B0072JP56G come highly recommended from Melee players for a more natural crt feeling on HDMI monitors

Go with this one http://www.amazon.com/Sewell-Wii-HDMI-Converter-480p/dp/B0072JP56G/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398017066&sr=8-1-fkmr1&keywords=sewell+wii2hdmi+480p

You don't want the adapter to upscale, let your TV do that. Set your Wii to 480P, it will reduce lag but not eliminate it.

As i'm sure you've read your best bet is to either play on a CRT, or play on a low latency computer monitor with the adapter I linked. I have a BenQ RL2455HM + The Above Adapter and it only lags 2ms more than a CRT, to me (and i'd be willing to bet anyone) that is not noticeable.

Good luck