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u/Porcupine_Racetrack · 6 pointsr/history

I think Pacific Islander beyond New Zealand is really interesting. One book I enjoyed on the history of Hawaii was The Shoals of Time.

Another time to explore would be the Russian Expansion into Siberia, Kamchatka, and the Bering Expedition. My most recent favorite book that I recommend to everyone I meet is about the Bering expedition to Alaska called Where the sea breaks its back. It's a gripping story that reads like fiction and the author is incredible.

I hope this thread blows up some because I think it's a great question and I want to reap the rewards. Also please post any specific books you've enjoyed related to the New Zealand history.

u/Anerriphtho_Kybos · 5 pointsr/Hawaii

The go to book for Hawaiian History is Shoal of Time but Daws is not an Ethnic Hawaiian. If you want primary source history from an ethnic Hawaiian you could go with Hawaii’s Story by Hawaii’s Queen. Again, if you are specifically looking for a book of Hawaiian history written by a native Hawaiian you could also try Ruling Chiefs of Hawaii, notable as Kamakau wrote it before the fall of the monarchy.

u/moon-worshiper · 5 pointsr/Hawaii

'Shoal of Time' is a really good nonacademic history.

https://www.amazon.com/Shoal-Time-History-Hawaiian-Islands/dp/0824803248

It will explain a lot of the 'why' questions about Hawaii. There are excerpts from Captain Cooks log and journal, especially considering he was writing before being killed by Hawaiians. One thing he wrote about was his regrets with Hawaii. He regretted he didn't keep his men with gonorrhea and syphilis on board, he had seen entire islands wiped out by the time he found Hawaii. He also regretted not shooting a Hawaiian on his first landing, like he had been doing on his previous island discoveries, demonstrating the "power of the Crown and the gun" to the "savages".

u/MikeyNg · 5 pointsr/Hawaii
u/owenbowen04 · 3 pointsr/Hawaii
u/ken579 · 3 pointsr/Hawaii

Moolelo Hawaii by Kingdom Historian David Malo: http://www.ahamoku.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Malo-David-Hawaiian_Antiquities-Moolelo-Hawaii-translated-by-N-B-Emerson-Honolulu-Hawaiian-Gazette-Co-Ltd-1903.pdf

Ruling Chiefs of Hawaii by Kingdom Historian Samuel Kamakau, which has lore from pre-Cook: http://ulukau.org/elib/cgi-bin/library?c=chiefs&l=en

Great book on the post-Cook era, which covers the annexation part: https://www.amazon.com/Captive-Paradise-James-L-Haley/dp/1250070392

There is only lore and archaeological evidence before Cook. If you're looking for solid history, there isn't any, but the first two links are the first two Hawaiians to record written history and included lore. You can also find accounts from visitors from the late 18th century and early 19th century; most of that is free on Google Books.

Be careful of the modern stuff, some of it isn't accurate and has a strong bias since the topic is politicized these days. Some of it is written down oral history, which still has all the inherent accuracy problems with oral history. Good reviews doesn't necessarily mean historically accurate.

Shoal of Time is another one people recommend.

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