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u/FreeMRausch · 1 pointr/news

Good scholarly work on slave patrols: https://www.amazon.com/Slave-Patrols-Violence-Carolinas-Historical/dp/0674012348

If you study what slave patrols did (monitor the roads for escaped slaves, making sure slaves who traveled about had their masters permission through permission pass/paper checks, inspecting slaves for contraband (reading material, weapons, etc), defending the interests of the wealthy, we see a lot of what modern policy does particularly through stop and frisk, particularly in cities like NYC where being black and on the street in certain neighborhoods means the same surveillance and physical harassment, without assumption of innocence, for simply wishing to travel freely in public.

Also, Blackmons book, Slavery By Another Name, goes into how post civil war southern states passed Black Codes which made it illegal for a black individual to not have a job (vagrant), carry guns, curse a white man, etc. Police essentially rounded up blacks and poor whites for such offenses, fined them, and when fines could not be paid, sent them to prison chain gangs and convict lease camps. Police did same shit as slave patrols.

u/sobriquetstain · 1 pointr/oklahoma

Just gonna leave this here.

TLDR-- The 2nd Amendment re: existing [in part] because SLAVERY.

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It was an addition to The Constitution by the government of Virginia, because the slaves outnumbered the plantation owners and Virginians were worried about slave rebellions.

“The Georgia statutes required patrols, under the direction of commissioned militia officers, to examine every plantation each month and authorized them to search ‘all Negro Houses for offensive Weapons and Ammunition’ and to apprehend and give twenty lashes to any slave found outside plantation grounds.”
In Georgia, for example, a generation before the American Revolution, laws were passed in 1755 and 1757 that required all plantation owners or their male white employees to be members of the Georgia Militia, and for those armed militia members to make monthly inspections of the quarters of all slaves in the state. The law defined which counties had which armed militias and even required armed militia members to keep a keen eye out for slaves who may be planning uprisings.

sources: https://lawreview.law.ucdavis.edu/issues/31/2/Articles/DavisVol31No2_Bogus.pdf and Slave Patrols by Sally Haden and https://truthout.org/articles/the-second-amendment-was-ratified-to-preserve-slavery/

pop culture example---Django Unchained: “Why don’t they just rise up and kill the whites? (rhetorical mention from article linked above-- well, those well-regulated 'slave patrol' militias)

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from this article linked, it has embedded sources at the link

> Madison, who had (at Jefferson’s insistence) already begun to prepare proposed amendments to the US Constitution, changed his first draft of one that addressed the militia issue to make sure it was unambiguous that the southern states could maintain their slave patrol militias.
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> His first draft for what became the Second Amendment had said: “The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; a well armed, and well regulated militia being the best security of a free country: but no person religiously scrupulous of bearing arms, shall be compelled to render military service in person.”
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> But Henry, Mason and others wanted southern states to preserve their slave-patrol militias independent of the federal government. So Madison changed the word “country” to the word “state,” and redrafted the Second Amendment into today’s form:
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> “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
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> Little did Madison realize that one day in the future weapons-manufacturing corporations, newly defined as “persons” by a Supreme Court some have called dysfunctional, would use his slave patrol militia amendment to protect their “right” to manufacture and sell assault weapons used to murder schoolchildren.
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**Note: Personally I find this interesting and while not arguing this point-- State (capitol "S") refers to the governmental body as a whole by modern definitions (as I understand it) and state (lowercase 's') refers to states themselves as locations in the country, but I cannot discern editorial accuracy from an online article and am looking into my primary sources more. I do think the whole piece is worth a read but did not want to paste the entire thing here just all the relevant links and some points.

Also BIG CAVEAT---> I am always a little skeptical using TruthOut as a source that's why the primary sources are linked above, and here are their mediabias links for transparency.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/truth-out/

https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/truthout/

u/parachutewoman · 0 pointsr/exmormon

The amendment had two main purposes. First, the founders were very suspicious of standing armies and so, in the constitution they only allowed funding for two years. Instead, they thought militias would fill the gap.

Here's the important bit.
>To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

Second, slave militias were also a necessity; required in Georgia and used throughout the slave-owning colonies. People needed guns handy to keep their slaves from rebelling. Militias are a slave thing.

https://www.amazon.com/Slave-Patrols-Violence-Carolinas-Historical/dp/0674012348/

The English were Anglican (Protestant), Catholic, and various other shades of Protestant. If anyone were to be disarmed it would have been the Catholics. Could you cite some sources on disarming Protestants?