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u/Ole_Gil · 125 pointsr/motorcycles

Congrats on the Babigale and living down your dream!

Reality check: plenty of power is an understatement. Like others have said, your age group and situation is one of the most accident prone. If you are gonna cruise to starbucks every third Sunday, then you probably don't need much more than a basic rider course.

I'll tell you from experience that an 899 is an incredible motorcycle. The engine is good, but it's the chassis that is unbelievable. You already own the bike, it would be a sin not find out what it can do when pressed, because it shreds. Do yourself a ginormous favor and start doing some track-day schools. DON'T try to go be Rossi Sr. on the street, you will either mame/kill yourself or never improve because the learning curve is too steep. Also Twist of the Wrist I and II are must haves. Sport Riding Techniques by Nick Ientasch is another great read.

https://www.amazon.com/Sport-Riding-Techniques-Develop-Confidence/dp/1893618072/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1499826120&sr=8-1&keywords=sport+riding+techniques

https://www.amazon.com/Twist-Wrist-Motorcycle-Roadracers-Handbook/dp/0965045013/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1499826148&sr=8-2&keywords=twist+of+the+wrist

https://www.amazon.com/Twist-Wrist-Vol-High-Performance-Motorcycle/dp/0965045021/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1499826174&sr=8-1&keywords=twist+of+the+wrist

Lastly, the best way to get back at the people who call it a mid-life crisis is to become a proficient motorcyclist.

u/chunkyks · 10 pointsr/motorcycles

Mostly, more experience is the solution.

In cases like this: Look around, and figure out where you want to go. Evaluate everything you can, then look straight at where you want to go and go there.

Remember that stopping is only one of many options available to you. If you do stop, immediately carry on and get the fuck out of the way of the guy who's about to rearend you, wasn't paying attention, and hasn't maintained his brakes.

Read Proficient Motorcycling. If your Proficient Motorcycling book isn't dogeared and torn, you haven't fully taken advantage of it yet.

EDIT: Additionally, the golden rule of braking and leaning being mutually exclusive isn't entirely true. Nick Ienatsch's book is awesome and really talks about how you can brake in turns, but you just can't grab a fistful of brake and expect anything good to happen.

Additionally if you take MSF ARC, at least the one I took, there's an exercise in braking while leaned over.

u/playfulcyanide · 6 pointsr/motorcycles

Book links for the lazy:

http://www.amazon.com/Sport-Riding-Techniques-Develop-Confidence/dp/1893618072


Edit: removed unpaid link, even though it was kickass.

u/e60deluxe · 5 pointsr/motorcycles

(1) Ok so licensing and basic training is pretty easy in the US but it still varies state to state.

All states use a rider training program, the majority of them being of the MSF curriculum, a small handful of them being run by the MSF themselves. other states will have their own, but the process is usually more or less the same.

you take a 2 day course that takes you from the point of never having sat on a motorcycle to being a licensed rider (some states will still make you take the DMV written exam however) some states will REQUIRE you to take this class if you are under 21. best to check with your state on the process.

This is where you should start. this is not where you should end however. these courses will give you the skills you need to operate the motorcycle, but before being road ready they need to be drilled down in a parking lot. after getting your bike hopefully you can ride it home in a light traffic hours or have it delivered, and be prepared to get out to an empty parking lot and practice the exercises taught before getting into full blown traffic.

in addition to this, your rider education should not stop. i advise you to check out some books from your local library if not purchasing a copy yourself. i will link below

(2) the clutch in a manual car is more difficult than on a bike, but the same interplay between the clutch and throttle applies. most bikes are also designed with wet clutches which allow them to slip more and take more abuse than dry clutches, also gives them a more linear release (although some Italian bikes have dry clutches) . Bikes can also move off easier without throttle which makes things easier in the beginning. hills starts are not as much of a problem on a bike than a car. one advantage a car has however is a mental one, you dont have to worry about keeping the vehicle upright while you are learning. doing this plus learning the clutch could make things challenging. for the most part, though, a motorcycle will be easier than a car.

(3) at your height most bikes will fit well. there's only a few bikes that you can be too tall for, most of the time its the other way around, where as a beginner you want to be able to flat foot the bike. so a lot of this comes down to which bikes you like.

the other things is that a lot comes down to body geometry so not all 6'2" are going to be equally comfortable on the same bike. best it to go and sit on a few bikes. if you are into sportbikes/sport standards, most of the entry level 250cc-300cc bikes actually fit taller people better than say, a 300cc cruiser.

that being said, when you go to take the course. expect to be slightly uncomfortable. a lot of these bikes used at courses tend to be bikes with very low seat heights so that shorter people can still flat foot them...while you are learning you will have to put your foot down a lot, which can be make a taller person feel cramped on the bike. once your riding, these bikes are mostly fine for us taller folk but in the course with so much stop and go, and bike walking exercising, with such a low seat height, its kind of uncomfortable.


Recommended reading:

Proficient Motorcycling: The Ultimate Guide to Riding Well
by David L. Hough
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1620081199/
This book is pretty popular and its VERY good. your local library probably has it. I was actually able to get an ebook from the library to read on a tablet in full color without getting off my butt.


The Follow up:
https://www.amazon.com//dp/1935484869/

If you are into sportbikes:

Lee Parks Total Control https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00R31222S

Nick Ienatsch Sport Riding Techniques https://www.amazon.com/gp/1893618072/

u/thtanner · 4 pointsr/motorcycles

AVOID THIS VIDEO. AVOID ANY OF THE TWIST OF THE WRIST SERIES

These are not the best for new riders. Keith loves to throw opinion in there, and explain things without going into the science behind it.

Read Sport Riding Techniques by Nick Nick Ienatsch and you'll be much better off.

u/te_anau · 3 pointsr/motorcycles

I agree, twist of the wrist definitely caters to those requiring a more, ugh, special education.
Try Sport-Riding-Techniques, Its written with a regular thinking folk in mind and contains plenty of clearly formed concepts/ techniques.

u/mjxii · 3 pointsr/motorcycles

Add stomp grips! They will allow you to hook your leg and stay solidly in control. My tank was so slippery I felt like I was going to fall off and kept smashing my nuts under hard barking. Added stomp grips and I stay put.

Seriously, get them!

Also watch / read twist of the wrist
and I got this: http://www.amazon.com/Sport-Riding-Techniques-Develop-Confidence/dp/1893618072/ref=pd_sim_b_44

u/pwnd_nz · 3 pointsr/motorcycles

Does what you're doing look like how Rossi does it?
If so, you're probably doing it wrong. ;)

-- Sounds like you're using the weight of your body to pull the bike around the corner, rather than steering it around the corner, I do this in a more subtle way by shifting my weight on the footpegs and if it's a big corner, shifting my ass to the inside of the seat...

Have a read of this (there's an e-book version available from your favorite torrent search) Sports Riding Techniques - Nick Ienatsch

In the book it explains how a tyre has a maximum of 100 points worth of grip (these points are arbitrary, they're just to illustrate the point)

When you're coming out of a corner, you are using most of your 100 points for cornering grip, if you apply too much throttle, you'll dedicate too many points to acceleration, overwhelm the tyre and you'll lose traction.

-- In my experience (relatively limited but I'm studious when it comes to staying alive) It all comes down to how smoothly you apply the throttle on exit as to whether you'll break traction in a bad way or not and head for the scenery... - eventually, you'll learn that limit and if you're being smooth, it'll be recoverable.

u/YamahaRN · 3 pointsr/motorcycles

Sport Riding Techniques by YCRS lead instructor Nick Ienatsch Essentially a good portion of the concepts in the school. A good primer if you're interested in investing in a class.

u/canyonchaser · 3 pointsr/motorcycles

While this edit is significantly better, Code's techniques are still woefully outdated (and exceedingly complex). Please, if you really want to improve your riding, pass on Code and check out anything by Nick Ienatsch. Not only is his methodology way better, but what he teaches draws heavily from what we've learned from MotoGP/WSBK about how motorcycles actually operate.

His book is the best source for how to improve your riding. http://smile.amazon.com/Sport-Riding-Techniques-Develop-Confidence/dp/1893618072/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1413476530&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=nick+ientasch

No affilliation whatsoever, but have been involved in motorcycle instruction for over 15 years.

u/khafra · 3 pointsr/AskReddit

Space does not permit all the tips I've learned by reading this, this, this, this, and this.

But, briefly:

  • watch out for "edge traps"--where road work or a 2x4 in the street or anything similar can catch your tire and turn it to the side.

  • go somewhere safe, not on the road, and practice. Learn how hard you can apply your brakes, and how to ease off the back as you apply the front. Set up cones and practice various kinds of turns.

  • look far ahead, look all around, predict what other vehicles are going to do in one second, two seconds, five, ten.

  • Three words: Shots and wheelies.
u/friendly_jerk · 3 pointsr/motorcycles

You need to go to the track. Track days are friendly to even the most novice of riders.

Also, I recommend this book, and this one.

u/gconsier · 2 pointsr/motorcycles

Sport Riding Techniques is my favorite. Sorry for mobile link on phone. http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1893618072/ref=redir_mdp_mobile/178-4191191-4910622

u/disgustipated · 2 pointsr/motorcycles

Sport Riding Techniques is another good book.

u/ilolatstuff · 2 pointsr/motorcycles

I've been riding for a year now and I feel like I've got some of the basics covered, IMO.

By basics I mean: general notions of how the bike works in terms of the physics involved; gyroscope effect, counter-steering, how acceleration/deceleration effects the suspension, traction, etc. I also understand and practice cornering (where and if appropriate), rev-match downshifts, try to lean into the turns and hang-off the bike (this is my current biggest issue), etc.

My guides have been Sport Riding Techniques, the Twist of the Wrist 2 DVD and I am currently going through the Twist of the Wrist 2 book.

I understand a lot of the skills needed to ride are practiced daily but I also feel like it's impossible to know certain things if not told by a more experienced rider. At this time I feel like I am not correctly hanging off the bike at turns that could benefit from it, either because I might be leaning too far on turns that might not need it so much (or the opposite) or that I might be hanging off incorrectly (probably both, tho) and upsetting the bike.

I'm basically scared to go to a track and find that I lack the required skill level but then again I don't know how I could get to this level without someone actually telling me what I am doing wrong.

u/xpurplexamyx · 2 pointsr/MotoUK

It's definitely worth pursuing.

I can totally recommend investing in a copy of the Police Riders Handbook (not the new edition, it's terrible and a waste of money), and also the Police Drivers Handbook.

They are dry as hell to read, but it is definitely possible to teach yourself at least the basics of the system and begin to apply it, without ever needing to pay quantities of money to IAM or Rospa. Then, once you're back in the black so to speak, you'll have a baseline to work from and a decent knowledge of what is expected.

Bikesafe actually threw in a goodiebag for us that contained an IAM book that gives you a good foundation.

Beyond that, Nick Ienatsch's book is a great read too for sportier riding.

u/yebbit · 2 pointsr/motorcycles

There is a Twist of the Wrist Volume 2...also Sport Riding Techniqes is probably my favorite.

u/wafflingcharlie · 2 pointsr/motorcycles

Sport Riding Techniques: How To Develop Real World Skills for Speed, Safety, and Confidence on the Street and Track https://www.amazon.com/dp/1893618072/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_ZwW0AbMMYHP0P

And

Proficient Motorcycling: The Ultimate Guide to Riding Well https://www.amazon.com/dp/1620081199/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_ryW0AbSGD7P6H

And the others by Hough - his books are good on the strategies and decision making of real world full-time riding.

u/tttruck · 2 pointsr/motorcycles

These two are pretty good, but I found "Total Control" kind of lacking, and the writing style of "Twist of the Wrist" to be annoying after a while.

My favorite so far has been Nick Ienatsch's "Sport Riding Techniques:..."

u/jtunzi · 1 pointr/motorcycles

I read these based on Amazon reviews and they were both very helpful in addition to Twist of the Wrist.

Total Control

Sport Riding Techniques

u/slakwhere · 1 pointr/motorcycles

http://www.amazon.com/Sport-Riding-Techniques-Develop-Confidence/dp/1893618072

this book (and his school, Yamaha Champions Riding School) will get you sorted out

u/uncledahmer · 1 pointr/CalamariRaceTeam

Yeah. One of my instructors lent me this book:

Sport Riding Techniques: How To Develop Real World Skills for Speed, Safety, and Confidence on the Street and Track, by Nick Ienatsch. The book answered a lot of questions that I'd had, and taught me things I wouldn't have thought about.

So yes, MSF is a start, but there's a ton of more information to learn, and other places to learn it from.

u/IveHadBlackFriends · 1 pointr/motorcycles

If you want a few tricks under your belt this is a good book

https://www.amazon.com/Sport-Riding-Techniques-Develop-Confidence/dp/1893618072

And it's always a good idea to find a big ass parking lot and practice your skills, do tight circles, emergency stops from cruising to highways speeds, and anything that you might identify that you can work on.

Stay safe out there, riding is the most fun I've ever had, cheers!

u/incendiary_bandit · 1 pointr/AussieRiders

I was recently loaned this book

https://www.amazon.com/Sport-Riding-Techniques-Develop-Confidence/dp/1893618072

The skills it gets you working on are amazing and it'll make him a safer rider.

u/Recover_Username · 1 pointr/MotoLA

I agree, David Hough's books are great. Also recommend Nick Ienatsch's Sport Riding Techniques and his article The Pace.

u/WingedDefeat · 1 pointr/motorcycles

I found it.

u/AGGGman · 1 pointr/motorcycles

You can do that with the Ninja 250. It's all practice. Like V_Glaz_Dam mentioned you should watch the Twist of Wrist 2 series.

Here's something I wrote for one of my friends.

For books, I personally like this one the most. I feel like Nick took a lot information from the Twist of the Wrist books and made it more modern.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1893618072/ref=oh_o02_s01_i00_details



But I also learned a lot from Lee Park's book. Lee Park hosts a rider school where he runs over all the drills in his book and helps with rider technique. You have to google the class schedules but he comes around California at least once or twice a year.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0760314039/ref=oh_o04_s00_i00_details



The there is the Twist of the Wrist series
http://www.amazon.com/Twist-Wrist-Motorcycle-Roadracers-Handbook/dp/0965045013/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1330372612&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/Twist-Wrist-Basics-High-Performance-Motorcycle/dp/0965045021/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1330372612&sr=8-2

I haven't read those books but the Twist of Wrist II videos are on youtube so you can check them out.



The last book I would recommend is Proficient Motorcycling. I highly recommended reading that one because it focuses a lot on general riding. Techniques that everyone should learn just to stay alive riding on the road. The book can be found at some libraries so you can save some money by just loaning it.
http://www.amazon.com/Proficient-Motorcycling-Ultimate-Guide-Riding/dp/1933958359/ref=sr_1_sc_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1330372534&sr=1-1-spell

The rest is all practice.
Also youtube "ninja 250 track" and you'll see a bunch of videos of guys racing their 250s on the track.

I wouldn't get on a track until you are at least familiar with your motorcycle. Get some miles under your belt before you decide to do it. After you are comfortable on your bike I would try to hook up with some local riders who are better than you. That way you can talk to them and learn from their experience. But remember to take most advice with a grain of salt. I personally use meetup.com to meet a lot of other guys to ride with.



u/TriumphRid3r · 1 pointr/electronic_cigarette

It's definitely because you haven't figured out how to handle it yet. I'm an instructor with Doc Wong Northwest. It's a free riding clinic & covers the finer details of sport riding. We teach the concepts covered by Keith Code's Twist of the Wrist 2. I personally help run the clinics in Albany, but they originally started in PDX. You should check them out. They meet the first Saturday of every month at BMW Motorcycles of Western Oregon in Tigard. Not only is it a great way to learn more advanced riding, but it's a good reason to get out and ride & a great way to meet other riders in the area.

I'd also like to recommend a few books to get you started:

u/Leonid1882 · 1 pointr/motorcycles
  1. Its spinning faster, making more power. in general, good riders keep the bike in power band: where it makes most power. on your bike, HP levels out around 8-10K, so shifting between 8-10K is good idea for spirited riding.
  2. Ideally, you should blip the throttle and downshift through every gear, though this might be problematic in the city.
  3. This is engine braking. you shild blip the throttle/rev match for smooth downshifitng.
  4. Its good idea to stop the way so you can take off rapidly - it just makes your riding safer.
  5. Thats because when you downshift without blipping the throttle the RPMs are growing rapidly, plus you are putting additional stress on transmission. no, you don't suck, you are just learning and sking right questions.
    I would suggest some reading though: https://www.amazon.com/Sport-Riding-Techniques-Develop-Confidence/dp/1893618072/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1473751156&sr=8-1&keywords=sportbike+riding+techniques is an excellent read.
u/Harb67 · 1 pointr/motorcycles

Seems like every single person in this video (save for the near-wrecks due to asshat car drivers) really needs a lesson on corner exit. You don't necessarily get back on the throttle once you pass the apex, you get back on the throttle as you bring the bike back up. Ideally these two things coincide, but when you're a squid on the street and blow a corner it's not uncommon to stay cranked over well past the apex.

A copy of Twist of the Wrist 2 or Sport Riding Techniques would have probably avoided nearly every one of these incidents ಠ_ಠ