Reddit reviews Spreading Misandry: The Teaching of Contempt for Men in Popular Culture

A Reference book of men's issues is probably your best bet for finding relevant studies.

[MRRef] (https://www.reddit.com/r/MRRef/) is more extensive but will require more digging.

Videos:

The Red Pill (NYA)

Everything by Karen Straughan

Everything by Janice Fiamengo

Books:

[Is There Anything Good About Men?] (https://gendertruce.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/baumeister-roy-is-there-anything-good-about-men.pdf) (full book online) by Roy Baumeister

The Myth of Male Power: Why Men are the Disposable Sex by Warren Farrell

The Privileged Sex by Martin Van Creveld

The Second Sexism: Discrimination Against Men and Boys by David Benetar

The Fraud of Feminism (full book online) by Earnest Belford Bax

Who Stole Feminism? by Christina Hoff Sommers

The War Against Boys by Christina Hoff Sommers

Spreading Misandry: The Teaching of Contempt for Men in Popular Culture by Paul Nathanson and Katherine Young

Legalizing Misandry: From Public Shame to Systemic Discrimination Against Men by Paul Nathanson and Katherine Young

Sanctifying Misandry: Goddess Ideology and the Fall of Man by Paul Nathanson and Katherine Young

Replacing Misandry: A Revolutionary History of Men by Paul Nathanson and Katherine Young

No More Sex War by Neil Lyndon

A few works that I think deserve more attention. Some are directly related to Men's Rights, others tangentially.

Hierarchy in the Forest: The Evolution of Egalitarian Behavior by Christopher Boehm

War, Peace, Human Nature: Converging Evolutionary & Cultural Views by Douglas Fry et. al

Female Forms of Power and the Myth of Male Dominance: A Model of Female/Male Interaction in Peasant Society (paper online) by Susan Carol Rogers

Favoured or oppressed? Married women, property and ‘coverture’ in England, 1660–1800 (paper online) by J. Bailey

The Mothers: A Study of the Origins of Sentiments and Institutions (full book online) by Robert Briffault

Gynocentrism: From Feudalism to the Modern Disney Princess by Peter Wright

Sex and Culture (full book online) by J.D. Unwin

The Manipulated Man (full book online) by Esther Villar

Unknown Misandry (website)

Real Sexism (website)

I used to be a huge fan of the Men's Rights Movement... like, a huge fan. I started buying into the MRM when I was working at a bookstore for a summer job, and I happened across the book "Spreading Misandry" in the psychology/social science section. Here was a book - published by a university press no less - that detailed all the ways that men were being systematically fucked over in society! Wow! I devoured it, and I was hooked. It told me all of the ways that I, as a white Canadian man, was being screwed, and it pointed out in a series of powerful arguments (or so I thought at the time) how movements like feminism had helped spread this toxic attitude that victimized men. From there it was a fairly simple step to reading the staples of the MRM like "The Myth of Male Power", and lurking on MRA and MRA-friendly websites. By the time I had begun my 3rd year of university I was an "egalitarian" with strong MRA leanings - you know, the usual stuff an MRA says when in public.

I rejected the reality of the pay gap; I refused to accept that feminists gave a shit about men in any way - or if they did, it was only so that the "radicals" among them could break men and make them weak. I smugly pointed out that only men had the desire - and strength - to work the really "dirty jobs" and that when men were depressed, they were the ones who would seriously and aggressively attempt suicide. I was also just beginning my trek into the realms of atheism and skepticism, so I basically rejected anything from the social sciences - especially that bullshit field of sociology - that disconfirmed my views.

And then, because I needed some credits, I decided that I'd take a couple of gender courses. After all, I was a pretty well-read amateur gender theorist: maybe I could argue my case in front of some professors and bring a little "balance" to those courses. After all, gender theory is basically the study of women; they would almost certainly be interested in hearing from the perspective of a man!

And then, in my first class, I saw the textbooks we'd be using: "Masculinities", and "The Men and the Boys", both by Raewyn Connell. Here was a gender studies course, taught by a straight up radical feminist, in the sociology department of my university, and the principle textbooks were almost exclusively about men and men's lives. And it only got worse from there. I was introduced to dozens of articles published through the "Men and Masculinities" journal (some of which appear in the textbook "Men's Lives", and unlike the books and blogs I was so familiar with, these articles had substance to them; they had empirical meat. I was in a space where the only evidence I would accept for any argument - no matter what it was for - had to come from hard, empirical data. And here it was, in black and white, so to speak. The material I read and the discussions I had in class scrutinized the concept of masculinity and the realities of men's lived experiences from a number of theoretical and empirical angles, and in doing so showed me without a shadow of a doubt, that the works I had been reading before were basically play-acting at being concerned about men's experiences. The work that had been dropped on me in these courses showed me what it really looks like to examine men's lives in detail - straight men, white men, gay men, trans men, men of colour and indigenous men; masculinities of huge variety and scope. And the overwhelming majority of people engaged in the study of men and men's lives were feminist or pro-feminist.

So to answer your question: it wasn't a single argument or source, and it wasn't a single perspective that "shifted my stance" towards feminism. It was the recognition of a massive, empirically-rigorous corpus of actual, honest research being conducted by feminists and pro-feminists from around the world - in defiance of the bullshit claims by the MRM that "no one" cared about men but them - that convinced me that the MRM was a festering boil of anger and bitterness, and that if I wanted to help men and understand men's lives, I needed to get on the level of the feminists whose work I'd end up relying on.

Because that's the punchline, I guess: I'm a sociologist now. I study men and men's lives; I've published papers on the subject, chaired conference committee meetings about it, and taught classes about it and not once have I ever - ever - been attacked, mocked or criticized by any feminists for it.

But I do occasionally get death threats from MRAs who read about the work I do and feel the need to silence it.

misandry: (mis·an·dry): noun, hatred of males (Wikipedia link)

Books by Paul Nathanson and Katherine Young:

Spreading Misandry: The Teaching of Contempt for Men in Popular Culture

Legalizing Misandry: From Public Shame to Systemic Discrimination Against Men

It's quite surprising. I just finished reading Spreading Misandry and though it was originally published in like 2000 (or shortly after) a lot of what it talks about either still rings true or has gotten worse. It takes a look at how pop-culture spreads misandrist ideas/values and how those came from certain circles of academia/marxism.

It's worth a read if for no other reason than to see how there were people talking about the same issues we worry about back in the 1990s. Pretty well referenced and has a decent chunk of the book just devoted to explaining why the two profs who wrote it included/talked about the issues they did.

First off, welcome to the Subreddit. As for your "main point", I concour. I think it is very easy to get involved in any movement based on a binary and form the "all <insert other side of the binary> are bastards" mind set. However, I think it's part of learning and can be very good to gain some ground on where you stand within the movement. Now, it's the people who continue to hold on to that mindset and create a radical movement within the original that I have issues with.

As for your first half of the post, I wanted to suggest a book for you to read, if you're interested, rather than commenting specifically on it. The book is: Spreading Misandry: The Teaching of Contempt for Men in Popular Culture. The authors have done a decent job highlighting the double standard that exists within our mainstream media, and how it has taught both men and women to be okay with misandry. They have also written two other books: Legalizing Misandry and Sanctifying Misandry.

A book has been written on the subject: http://www.amazon.com/Spreading-Misandry-Teaching-Contempt-Popular/dp/0773530991/

Title: Legalizing Misandry: From Public Shame to Systemic Discrimination Against Men
Link: http://www.amazon.com/Legalizing-Misandry-Systemic-Discrimination-Against/dp/0773528628/ref=pd_sim_b_4

Title: Spreading Misandry: The Teaching of Contempt for Men in Popular Culture
Link: http://www.amazon.com/Spreading-Misandry-Teaching-Contempt-Popular/dp/0773530991

Title: The Manipulated Man
Link: http://www.amazon.com/The-Manipulated-Man-Esther-Vilar/dp/0953096424

Check out the books:

Spreading Misandry: The Teaching of Contempt for Men in Popular Culture



Legalizing Misandry: From Public Shame to Systemic Discrimination Against Men

They are described as "massive and massively-researched volumes", and "thoroughly documented scholarly work". These two books are must read material.

A book for everyman that is wondering about this

Academic stuff here

http://www.newmalestudies.com/OJS/index.php/nms

Academic source on the institutionalization of misandry here

http://www.amazon.com/Spreading-Misandry-Teaching-Contempt-Popular/dp/0773530991

> Large proportion of men are CEOs (like extremely large proportion)

You have that backwards. Most CEOs are men, most men are not CEOs. Around here, this is called the apex fallacy. More men are homeless or in prison than are CEOs, but only one side of this coin is seen as a gender issue.

> Through fiction/mythology: Men are always the heros, women are the helpless creatures who can't do anything themselves.

What does that have to do with the value of their lives? Children are considered helpless, but also valuable.

> Through media: only 16% of oscar nominees are women, so men are better actors? Women are always nagging while men are always trying to avoid nagging spouses.

Again, nothing to do with value. Men achieve more because for men achievements are the path to value. They work longer hours, take bigger risks, but if they fail they are much more likely to kill themselves.

> Through policy: Ties back in with CEOs, most policy makers are men themselves (21/100 congress members are women)

But most voters are women. The behavior of politicians reflects society's wider values, not the other way around.

> It's easy to come up with anecdotal points that prove your ideals.

None of what I said qualifies as an anecdote. They are all well-documented trends.

> Do you have any actual scientific sources that back up what you're saying?

There have been books written on the subject, from both cultural and evo-psych perspectives. More research is needed, unfortunately the problem is self-reinforcing with many people being actively hostile to spending money researching men's issues.

Not what I mean at all. Where the hell do you live? As I told you, I live in SoCal. Give me examples that are somewhat remotely relavent to me. Do you think that Egalitarians/MRAs support ANY of those things? Are you new to this subreddit? If you are trying to justify the evils of feminism by comparing them to the Taliban, you're setting the bar pretty damn low.


For over half a century, feminism has been Spreading Misandry, Legalizing Misandry and Sanctifying Misandry.


Waging a war on men and sadly, even a war against boys.

That is why I, like most members of this subreddit, are vehemently antifeminist.

I think you do a good job highlighting the big issues. What grade level is this report for?

I don't know if you can get this from a library or something at this late stage, but you should really look at this book as a source. It contains functional definitions of misandry, and includes exhaustive criticism of the evolution of sitcoms and advertising as they relate to the portrayal of men. Also, the AVFM wiki is still pretty new, but the article on misandry is developing nicely. There is also a decent amateur youtube channel dedicated to the subject.

Erin Pizzey, author of prone to violence

also, Paul Nathanson and Katherine Young, authors of Legalizing Misandry and Spreading Misandry

The misandry series.

• Spreading Misandry
  
• Legalizing Misandry
  
• Sanctifying Misandry
  
  edit: added links

I will certainly do so, just give me a bit to get it all together.

A great place to start is how feminists diverted funds for shovel ready jobs (The recession in America hit those most, majorly affecting men) into jobs in health care. This negatively impacted men and the industries they work in.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/016/659dkrod.asp

I'll go grab some more later, but it's 1AM.

Edit:

Thought of another one:

Amanda Childress has this to say about Men in higher education:
"Why could we not expel a student based on an allegation?" Childress asked at the panel, before noting that while 2 to 8 percent of accusations are unfounded (but not necessarily intentionally false), 90 to 95 percent are unreported, committed by repeat offenders, and intentional. "It seems to me that we value fair and equitable processes more than we value the safety of our students. And higher education is not a right. Safety is a right. Higher education is a privilege."
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2014/02/12/disagreement-campus-judicial-systems

Edit2:

I'd like to add Ezra Klein (Mr. Feminist says "False Accusations are Good") and Jessica Valenti (Ms. "I bath in male tears") to the list as well.

Ezra Klein: http://www.vox.com/2014/10/13/6966847/yes-means-yes-is-a-terrible-bill-and-i-completely-support-it
Jessica Valenti: https://twitter.com/JessicaValenti/status/494591618519805953/photo/1

Edit3:

Or those in the IMF who think women should pay less in taxes than men:
"IMF staff estimates show that cutting labor income taxes paid by women by 5 percentage points would increase the GDP level by 1¾ percentage points, for a fiscal cost of ½ percentage point of GDP. "
http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/spn/2010/spn1019.pdf

Edit4:
A good book to read: http://www.amazon.com/Spreading-Misandry-Teaching-Contempt-Popular/dp/0773530991/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1296042616&sr=8-1

Edit5:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gudrun_Schyman

"Schyman left the Left Party in 2004 and in 2005 co-founded Feminist Initiative"

"In October 2004, Schyman together with other MEPs of the Left Party proposed before the Riksdag, a national assessment of the cost of men's violence towards women; furthermore they demanded that the state fund women's shelters.[5] The proposal attracted wide attention, with the media calling it a "man tax.""

Edit5: (I think I edit this too much)
I'd also like to bring up the fact that feminists have repeatedly attached men's rights speeches.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iARHCxAMAO0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Yg-f7fC0Uw&list=PLOn14Uiedi_5VxHKA89DUT77CFehp_WEF

Can you show me one instance where an MRA has stood outside a feminist conference shouting? Or pulled a fire alarm to prevent them from speaking?

There's a book on this topic published by two Canadian academics called Spreading Misandry http://np.amazon.com/Spreading-Misandry-Teaching-Contempt-Popular/dp/0773530991

Also some articles in the New Male Studies journal concern this topic http://newmalestudies.com/OJS/index.php/nms/index

>I would say you're completely entitled to that opinion

Nice to know!


>But a lot of the sites you've been linking me to don't just argue that, they argue that all the women in these movements are also sexists who want female superiority over men.

Yes, because that has been my experience in dealing with feminists.

>Not only that, but the sites can't even back up their claims with anything other than hearsay and misleading quotes.

Check out the books:

Spreading Misandry: The Teaching of Contempt for Men in Popular Culture



Legalizing Misandry: From Public Shame to Systemic Discrimination Against Men

They are described as "massive and massively-researched volumes", and "thoroughly documented scholarly work". These two books are must read material.


I see the incredible destructiveness that feminism has brought. It has waged an all out war against
boys,
men
and fathers.


Feminism has poisoned the minds of the majority of American women. Consider the book My Enemy, my love by Judith Levine.
One of the most depressing books I have ever read. From the reviews:

>Here, a contributing editor to New York Woman convincingly argues that some degree of man-hating (misandry) is practically universal among American women today. For evidence of man-hating, Levine draws on 80 in-depth interviews with women of various social classes, ethnic backgrounds, occupations, and sexual orientations. Nearly all women, she finds, perceive men as fitting one or more stereotypes: either that of needy Infant,'' exploitativeBetrayer,'' or testosterone-poisoned ``Beast.'' Levine goes on to describe the genesis of such attitudes in women's first relationships with their fathers, and represents the feminist movement of the 60's and 70's as the first time that women recognized the commonality of these feelings and claimed the right to express them. Her discussion concludes with portraits of individual women and the strategies they have found for dealing with their hatred or ambivalence: total avoidance of men; intimacy marred by strife; rage and disappointment; utter capitulation.

I have done extensive research, which is why I hate feminists. I am an antifeminist - someone who is against the feminist movement, which for the past four decades have been systematically Spreading Misandry, Legalizing Misandry, waging an all out War Against Men and sadly even a War Against Boys.

> Seriously you expect me to watch all that?

Watch however much you want whenever you want to.

> Please summarize.

They hate divorce court. They hate the institutionalized and legally codified misandry (here, here, here, here, here, etc.). They hate contempt for men in society.

The reasons have been accounted for, documented and published all over the place.

>For one, communism was a complete wash

Ok, thats one - but it lead to lots of polices that your parents benefited from, social mobility, decent wages, good access to education.

>or another thing, most right-wingers today are liberal rather than reactionary or monarchical.

Yes, but at the time the right were fighting the left on these matters and the liberals (the left) were the enemy. The liberalism that the right wants today, is a right wing intrepretation of it that adam smith disapproved of.

> Would you considered Peterson to be right wing?

Going by his activity and affiliations in twitter he is extreme right.

>"Freedom of speech" is this a left/right thing?

Freedom of speech was a hard fought battle against the right which had to be won over and over, the right to speak against the church, the right to protest war etc.

>"Evolution" again, not a left/right thing.

Yes, the right fought for biblical fundamentalism.


>Also, even if all of what you said was true, it wouldn't mean today's right wing thought had nothing to argue.

the majority of the rights arguments against feminism and sjw's today came from the left. Warren Farrell was the one who debunked all the feminist talking points in the 1970s and talked about men falling behind in education due to neolibral left policies.

These two as well.

https://www.amazon.com/Spreading-Misandry-Teaching-Contempt-Popular/dp/0773530991

Yes and no.

If this advertising stuff was an isolated incident, then yeah you might call this article an overreaction.

But anti-male advertising is not an isolated incident.

Nathanson and Young have dedicated 1020 pages in two books (Spreading Misandry and Legalizing Misandry) listing and discussing misandry in our culture. Misandry is so pervasive in North America, most people don't even notice it.

But the anti-male advertising is so bad, people are noticing it. We only hear about it occasionally when someone bothers to ask around what people's sentiments are. Because getting upset when men are maligned... that's not PC.

How do you fight something like misandry? Part of the battle is calling people out when they cross the line. And you keep doing it until some semblance of balance is restored.

If you want to learn more about misandry, you can read the above mentioned books or Warren Farrell's "Women Can't Hear what Men Don't Say" or "The Myth of Male Power" are quite good. Farrell was a feminist and served on the board of the American National Organization for Women.