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u/kate_does_keto · 12 pointsr/keto

I wouldn't. Many, many doctors, dietitians and nutritionists recommend not doing keto due to years of misinformation and flat out wrong "facts", sponsored by the sugar industry and Big Agriculture.

Take your co-pay and buy the books below instead. For yourself. You don't need to convince anyone that your choices are OK.

https://www.amazon.com/Big-Fat-Surprise-Butter-Healthy-ebook/dp/B00A25FDUA

https://www.amazon.com/Why-We-Get-Fat-About/dp/0307474259/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1549369434&sr=8-1&keywords=why+we+get+fat

Edited to add: Here are my lipid results on Keto. I've lost 40lbs too.

Lipids KETO

Read all of the great success stories on weight and other issues that are helped by Keto. They're all here, just search on things like diabetic, GERD, IBS, depression, lupus.... many stories of greatly improved or cured.

u/Ohthere530 · 7 pointsr/ketoscience

It's scary when a diet goes against the nutritional recommendations you've heard all of your life. I understand how you feel!

I don't know what kind of information it would take to help you be more comfortable. If you are willing to read an entire book, you might consider The Big Fat Surprise. Another good one is The Art And Science of Low Carbohydrate Living.

If you want to start on-line, you might try Peter Attia's blog entries about how he became comfortable with a keto diet. Attia has now started (along with Gary Taubes) a group to get better scientific research on low-carb/high-fat diets.

Almost fifteen years ago, I did a low-carb/high-fat diet for two/three years. I needed to lose weight, and it worked wonderfully. I eventually did go off, largely because I was worried about the long term health effects. Over fifteen years, about half the weight came back, and I decided to consider a similar diet again. The science has come along way since then. Back then it was clear that the diet worked for weight loss. What we've learned since is that it also seems to be very healthy. Much of the science about why eating fat and cholesterol is bad for us was very poor quality science. For instance, eating carbs actually drives up your cholesterol more than eating fat or even eating cholesterol. On top of that, it's not clear that having higher cholesterol is even bad for you, certainly not the way most doctors measure it. I now believe that a keto diet is a safe and healthy long-term way of eating.

I think your skepticism is natural, because this diet does fly in the fact of accepted wisdom. That said, I think that "wisdom" is starting to change. You may have noticed in the news that eggs were bad for us for many years, but then people started saying you can eat them again. More recently, there have been more and more articles about whether fat really is bad for us. This is a simple sign that the old science was wrong and the new science is starting to replace it. But it is very difficult for doctors to admit that they've been giving bad advice for 50 years, so it is a slow, slow transition.

u/Fa1alErr0r · 4 pointsr/worldnews

There is not "overwhelming evidence". In fact, there is zero evidence. Everything that these organizations say is based on epidemiological studies that are flawed and are inconsistent with each other. I don't care how many organizations are saying it, they are all basing their information on the same handful of flawed studies. I have read them and read about them. I doubt you have done the same.

Americans have largely switched to a carb heavy diet with low fat options for everything imaginable yet heart disease is higher than ever. It wasn't this way in the past when People ate a lot more red meat and dairy products than they do today.

There are also societies that eat almost entirely fat as their diet who have pretty much no heart disease at all. Of course no cause and effect can be established, but it does show that high fat is not causing people to die from heart disease.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M6A2WTF/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i1

https://www.amazon.com/Big-Fat-Surprise-Butter-Healthy-ebook/dp/B00A25FDUA/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1537127594&sr=1-1&keywords=big+fat+surprise
Here are a couple to get you started. Also read the actual studies that the diet-heart hypothesis are based on and you will see how flawed they are.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0735109703016310

u/sassytaters · 4 pointsr/keto

http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2012/10/sugar-industry-lies-campaign/

Also read this: The Big Fat Surprise: Why Butter, Meat and Cheese Belong in a Healthy Diet https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00A25FDUA

u/Captain_Midnight · 4 pointsr/keto

It's been a confluence of outsized ego, politics, and bureaucracy.

The Big Fat Surprise is a great book on the subject.

In short, (1) nutrition science is a fucking mess and has been from the beginning, and (2) don't trust the federal government's advice about anything regarding your diet. They're dug so deep into the bullshit that they can't acknowledge the truth without all of their credibility disintegrating.

u/186394 · 3 pointsr/keto

The Big Fat Surprise.

To me, this is THE book on the history of why people ever thought fat might be bad or a low-fat diet good, the people involved, and how we've learned so much since then.

u/badchromosome · 3 pointsr/zerocarb

The way to start chipping away at confusion is to start doing what you've already begun to do--research. No doubt you've found that there are completely contradictory arguments. So the challenge becomes finding out if any one argument is best founded on solid evidence.

I think a great place to start is to read into the history of how we came to have the conventional views on diet and health. It turns out to not be a story of the best science rising to the top. Gary Taubes started the ball rolling in Good Calories, Bad Calories. Fair warning: it's a long read, and meticulously detailed, but covers a lot of ground. It's a history, not a mountain of statistical analysis. But you'll learn a lot about how science was done; the role of key personalities in shaping what came to be promoted views; and the influence of government as the icing on the cake, as it were.

A more recent and excellent book is Nina Tiecholz's The Big Fat Surprise. It's easier reading for the less nerdy types. Taubes' book was intended for both the professional community and the interested lay reader--a tough thing to do well, but it shows in his careful, sober writing style.

You can get a condensed form of GCBC by looking for videos of lectures Taubes has been giving since publication of the book. Those usually run about an hour, and are distilled down to what he feels are key points in the storyline.

Nice thing about books such as those is that they include extensive bibliographies, so you can go looking to the original literature if you want, although some things aren't easily accessible unless you are near a university library.

I haven't yet collected any papers focussed on protein intake. It seems from what I've read that it tends to be kind of self-limiting anyway due to palatability and/or the body's response with a feeling of satiation. My personal experience is that it was a lot easier to pack away a lot of food during the day when eating a typical starch rich American diet than it is eating to strict carb restriction.

u/groot4lyfe · 3 pointsr/nottheonion

Neither LDL nor HDL are inherently "bad." What matters is particle size. And yes, your body can produce saturated fat, but the FDA's claim that your body makes "more than it needs" is based on a very outdated model in which saturated fat is inherently "bad" and therefore must be restricted.

>I learn't from research my guy idk what you're talking about.

I suggest you research this book, for starters.

u/ItsAConspiracy · 2 pointsr/Health

The Big Fat Surprise: Why Butter, Meat and Cheese Belong in a Healthy Diet by Nina Teicholz covers the first part in detail. Chapter 8 is on trans fats, chapter 9 is on substitute artificial fats, and other parts of the book talk about rancid polyunsaturated fats, which are common in restaurant deep fryers now that public opinion has forced restaurants to abandon lard and beef tallow in favor of "healthy fats." The book's extensively referenced.

u/Blunt_Force_Meep · -2 pointsr/insanepeoplefacebook

Sugar is processed into blood sugar --> insulin is released to bring blood sugar down.

Too much sugar causes bigger and bigger doses of insulin to be released to try and bring it down. But the cells start going "tone-deaf" (insulin-resistant) because there's so much, and the pancreas will try and keep up until it can't anymore.

"It occurs when insulin is produced normally in the pancreas, but the body is still unable move glucose into the cells for fuel. At first, the pancreas will create more insulin to overcome the body’s resistance. Eventually the cells “wear out.” At that point the body slows insulin production, leaving too much glucose in the blood. This is known as prediabetes. A person with prediabetes has a blood sugar level higher than normal but not high enough for a diagnosis of diabetes. Unless tested, the person may not be aware, as there are no clear symptoms. Type 2 diabetes occurs as insulin production continues to decrease and resistance increases." Healthline.com

The more you raise your insulin by volume (large amounts at one time) or time (snacking all the time) the more at risk you are to insulin resistance and eventually diabetes.

And although the most obvious culprits include soda and candy, any carbohydrate will break down into sugar. Pasta, potatoes, bread, fruits, cereals, corn, flour, crackers and chips, tortillas, oats, etc...

Also, fun fact, although we do need blood sugar, you actually never ever have to consume sugar. The body makes it's own by breaking down protein in the liver, known as gluconeogenesis. There is no such thing as an essential carbohydrate. The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition

Why all the carb hype everywhere? Heart healthy grains, breakfast carb hype, etc...? It started in 1977 with the first invention of the food pyramid which was dramatically lobbied by the department of Agriculture to include mostly grains and vegetables. Foods that were easy to mass produce and make products out of. Since then, America has experienced an explosion of obesity, diabetes, and similar related disorders. Food pyramid
Big Agriculture and the Government

There's been a couple of books written about it, right now I can only remember one: "The Big Fat Lie", by Nina Teicholz

There's more but I need to get back to work. :P

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