Reddit reviews The Fourth Turning: An American Prophecy - What the Cycles of History Tell Us About America's Next Rendezvous with Destiny

I agree. I think the country's economic strength and global leadership peaked about then, and both the loss of the Vietnam War and the fall of the Shah signaled the beginning of our decline.

My comment was really directed at the decline & fall of the republic in terms of political process. I trace the decline of political process effectiveness to Gingrich, whose scorched-earth, win-at-all-costs partisanship destroyed good-faith governance. If there's one person who broke the American model of government, it's him.

I do sort of wonder if the decline and fall of political systems lags the decline and fall of their respective economies. That might make for an interesting study.

If you've never read Strauss & Howe's The Fourth Turning it's well worthwhile. It's fairly easily picked apart in some of its detail, but is chillingly prophetic in its broader strokes and provides good food for thought.

It's from the book of the same name. Written in '97, Strauss and Howe look through history and map out generational archetypes and the natural ebb and flow of events centered around Anglo-American societies. I'd highly recommend it. In the book, history is divided into cycles of 80-100 years (a Turning), roughly a generation. Then, the cycles are divided into quarters, a new generation being formed every quarter of a cycle. The authors analyze each generation and their general mood within society. In terms of what's coming up in world events (according to Strauss and Howe), America is currently at the tail end of an Unraveling. The next Turning being the Crisis phase.

It means that generational archetypes repeat every fourth generation, not every other generation. It's why we often get along with our grandparents... they're usually the same archetype as us ;)


Looking at the past 8 generations

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Missionary Generation (Archetype: Prophet/Aggressive)

Lost Generation (Archetype: Nomad/Neglected)

GI/Greatest Generation (Archetype: Hero/Indulged)

Silent Generation (Archetype: Artist/Sensitive)


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Baby Boomers (Archetype: Prophet/Aggressive)

Generation X (Archetype: Nomad/Neglected)

Millenials (Archetype: Hero/Indulged)

Meme Generation (Archetype: Artist/Sensitive)

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Generation PleaseSaveUsOhGod (Archetype: Prophet/Aggressive)


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In general, the overprotected and moralistic Prophet generation raises the indulged and idealistic Hero generation; and then the empowered Hero generation raises the firebrands that will comprise the new Prophet generation. Alternatively, the neglected but resourceful Nomad generation raises the Artist generation, and then the Artist generation then births and raises the next Nomad generation at a time of greater emphasis on individual autonomy and less insistence on protecting children (most recently, the 60s, the 70s, and the early 80s).

Gen X, like other Nomad generations, are underprotected as children, which makes them very resourceful and efficient adults, though it does scar them. They are neglected by culture, as well, precisely for the reason that the prima-donna generations of the Prophet and the Hero border it. Where the Hero/Greatest/Millenial generations can do no wrong, the Nomad/Lost/Xers can do no right.

This large-scale pattern repeats as you go back in time, all the way back to the War of the Roses, in fact. Whenever the Prophet/Aggressive/Moralistic generation becomes the elders of the society, the western world has experienced a profound crisis, after which the civic order is born anew. This is happening now; but it also happened 80 years ago during WWII, then ~80 years before that in the Civil War, then ~80 years before that in the Revolutionary war. In fact, this tight periodicity keeps going back, again, to the War of the Roses. You can check it all out in the excellent book (written in 1996, economic boom times in America, yet that predicted the Great Recession as well as the deranged state of the civic order and political discourse today), called The Fourth Turning.

After reading The Fourth Turning and witnessing what has occurred the last 4 years and is currently happening now, yes. It was written in the 90s and predicted a great possibility of a WW2 type event sometime around 2020-2024. It posits it based on natural historical cycles and gives tons of proof and evidence, beyond conjecture. 9/11 came like being sucker punched and no one really had premonitions but now, you can feel it in the air. Heavy.

I feel you. It can be extremely demoralizing. It's designed to feel that way.

Despite the feeling of stagnation, we are making progress. We are making huge progress in the minds of the people. I would say that we are in the eye of the storm right now, which is why it feels so eerie and stagnant. Remember that almost no one knew who Bernie Sanders was two years ago (I remember, this is around the time I discovered him myself, and nobody I talked to about him had ever heard of him). And now is the most popular politician in the country. That is BIG. Think of all the lexicon and "common sense" he's introduced into daily discourse.

Reddit and the online media are part of a huge bubble. Reddit has always skewed upper middle class, but I really think the concerted shilling efforts have had a markedly noticeable effect on the composition of its primary user base. To be explicit, I think it used to be middle-to-upper-middle-class students and commuting tech workers. Now that shills changed the focus of the discussion, you find a lot more urban professionals and media types. "Journalists", bloggers/vloggers, silicon valley, etc. Plus, I think, more wealthy international redditors (e.g. the 1% in India, China, etc.) Not that all of them are neoliberal of course, just that the ones who are have been empowered to speak their mind more, and the ones who have a progressive or libertarian streak have been pulling back and getting more dormant. The shills are still here as well, but I feel like they have less work to do now.

But the important part to remember is, like they always smugly told us, back before they were the ones who needed reminding, "Reddit is not real life". There is something big going on in the minds of the average American. It takes time for people's worldview to change. By virtue of our participation here, it's evident that we're early adopters. It feels like we've known these things forever. Take heart: I have never been a bleeding edge person. I always adopt new ideas at the cusp, right before the tipping point where it goes mainstream. It's regular enough to be predictive, imo. It happened with smartphones, it happened with Bernie, and it's going to happen with the upcoming revolution (political or otherwise) as well. We will have campaign finance reform, universal healthcare, marijuana legalization, and so on. The collapse of the traditional mainstream media. There will also be violence, and escalation, and war, but whether it's domestic or international I can't say yet. All this within the next ten years.

Read The Fourth Turning if you haven't already. I'm impatient, it's true, but there's no doubt in my mind that it's coming.

Further reading: "The Fourth Turning"

It is very interesting, two guys (Neil Howe and William Strauss) using their research based on generation cycles correctly predicted in 1997 that some kind of event between 2005 and 2008 would happen that would be the catalyst to fundamentally change America. Low and behold, what happened in 2008? We had a economic crash and a financial crisis. Here is a 35 min video of them on CSPAN from 1997 talking about their generational theory and research:

Neil Howe and William Strauss on The Fourth Turning in 1997 CSpan

The Fourth Turning is the first book they wrote detailing their research. (William Strauss passed away in 2007).

Strauss-Howe Generational Theory

To give you some perspective, the Millennial Generation is what they call a "Hero Generation". The most recent example of a "Hero Generation" is the generation that grew up during the Great Depression and fought in WW2 (which that generation is virtually gone now).

>Hero generations are born after an Awakening, during a time of individual pragmatism, self-reliance, and laissez faire (hmm that sounds kind of like our last 30 years). Heroes grow up as increasingly protected post-Awakening children, come of age as team-oriented young optimists during a Crisis, emerge as energetic, overly-confident midlifers, and age into politically powerful elders attacked by another Awakening. Their main societal contributions are in the area of community, affluence, and technology. Their best-known historical leaders include Cotton Mather, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, John F. Kennedy. These have been vigorous and rational institution builders. In midlife, all have been aggressive advocates of economic prosperity and public optimism, and all have maintained a reputation for civic energy and competence in old age.

If you have any interest in this kind of stuff, I highly recommend reading their book:

The Fourth Turning: What the Cycles of History Tell Us About America’s Next Rendezvous with Destiny(1997)

Neil Howe also published a book in 2000:

Millennials Rising: The Next Great Generation

To quote one of the reviews:

>Still, the book is engrossing reading. It was actually recommended to me by a distinguished U.S. Army officer who suggested that the book could give military leaders insights into the wave of young people currently entering the armed services. I believe that many other professionals could also benefit from a critical reading of this book.


The recent research conducted today about the Millennial Generation largely supports Neil Howe and William Strauss generational theory.

Those two guy should be given some kind of recognition for their work.

Regardless of what you think about the idea of cyclical generations, Strauss & Howe do talk a lot about this in their work. It was written in 1997, but The Fourth Turning had a final section that was all about what they thought the next 20 or so years would look like if we entered a "crisis era" like that around the two World Wars.

If you don't get hung up on specifics, it's more accurate than you'd think. Like, they talk about a refocus on family values leading to a big backlash against no-fault divorce. We never really saw that, but everything they say was a dead ringer for the gay marriage debate, the reasons behind it, and how it played out. It's at least an interesting read.

> there's been surprisingly little generation-level analysis since the gen x stuff faded away.

This guy builds a case that Generation Y represents a sharp contrast to the boomers. He says the psychological profile strongly suggests a throwback to the values of the WWII generation.

This guy also has a lot to say about Generation Y.

> I don't think the generation y label ever really caught on.

It's definitely a real phenomenon and used in marketing circles, at least. It certainly exists as a demographic artifact; it's the generational echo of the boomers.

I believe there is a cycle nature to it. Read this book for greater detail.
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We (America) have had religious revivals at roughly ~70 year intervals since the colony days. These revival periods sets the spiritual paradigm on a national level for each of the following 60 years. The philosophical system gets re-examined in depth during the revival period. But the latest "revival" movement of the 1960-1970's is different, in that instead of a focus on Christianity, a whole new direction was chosen. Coming out of that "new" direction, we are entering a Post-Christian America.
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There will likely be another religious movement staring in about 15-20 years. How interesting and difficult will that be? Will we go deeper into anti-theism as /u/Croesgadwr put so well?

There's this book that was written in the 90's about our generation. It's called The 4th Turning. You might be interested in the theory that generational behaviors follow circadian rhythms and that we may in fact BE an echo of the Greatest Generation, or at least in the same position in the cycle. Check it out!

There's a book called The Fourth Turning that I would HIGHLY recommend reading. It's by a historian and economist that got together and looked at trends the last few centuries that have lead to our great wars. They found there is a, roughly, 80 year cycle when shit MAJORLY hits the fan, and the generation of young adults has to fix it, for better or worse.

Ex: about 80 years ago was WWII, 1860 was US Civil War, 1780 American Revolution, etc etc (and this is just the US)

If I didn't know that these guys were scientists, I would think they were prophets. They predicted a ton of major events that came to pass including the market collapse and Great Recession and the FACTORS THAT WOULD CAUSE IT... at least 10 years prior to it happening.

The book doesn't take a side (liberal or conservative), it just looks at trends in history and economic factors and calls it like it is. It also stressed the DUTY that you and I and our entire generation has to make sure the world doesn't turn to shit.

Every shits on the millenials and compares us to the "Greatest Generation" from WWII, but the old people from their time were shitting on them and accusing them of being lazy and spoiled just like people are doing to us now. It's just a cycle. Stay strong, dude, and stay positive.

From the article AlterNate linked, quoting what the Authors of The Fourth Turning said in 1997:
>Based on historical patterns, America will hit a once-in-a-century national crisis within the decade...'like winter,' the crisis or 'fourth turning' cannot be averted. It will last 20 years or so and bring hardship and upheavals similar to previous fourth turnings, such as the American Revolution, the Civil War, the Great Depression and World War II. The fourth turning is a perilous time because the result could be a new 'golden age' for America or the beginning of the end. It all will begin with a 'sudden spark' that catalyzes a crisis mood around the year 2005.

So, according to them, we're looking at a massive crisis that would be triggered around 2005, and be in full force no later than 2007.

From Wikipedia:
>The subprime crisis impact timeline lists dates relevant to the creation of a United States housing bubble and the 2005 housing bubble burst (or market correction) and the subprime mortgage crisis which developed during 2007 and 2008.



edit: realized that I needed more exposition.

Might help to also explore the incredible repetitive and circular cycles of American politics. Amazing how we repeat ourselves so regularly. A good one I liked from the perspective of the President and how a good one governs with the tenor of the American political lean in mind:

Presidential Leadership in Political Time

I'd also check out:

The Fourth Turning: An American Prophecy

Despite it getting a bad wrap due to Steve Bannon using it to explain away his idiotic end of time accelerationism bullshit, it's an excellent book towards understanding how frighteningly repetitive we are.

Best explanation I've ever seen of this idea.

The intellectual framework that explains many of the questions brought up in the podcast about the current state of American politics can be summed up
in two seminal books, A Conflict of Visions and
The Fourth Turning. After completing these two
volumes, Fox News will suddenly start making sense to you, since some of the language and terms used by the right wing are quite literally incomprehensible (what's "unconstrained vision"?) without these guides.

 

The first book in particular, about the distinction between people and processes, is very relevant today. Why does America tolerate a racist, misogynist, xenophobe? Because one won the election fair and square, while the other stole the
primary nomination from Bernie. So the right wingers are focused on the election process (regardless of candidate), and the left wingers are focused on the candidates (regardless of process). We are literally talking past each other when we don't
grasp this fundamental difference; no communication can take place.

 

About the creation of an Asian-American political voice, the right wing view is that more identity politics is NOT the answer. Again, the distinction between people and processes. We don't want to focus on Asian people (or Black people, or Green people...), instead we want to focus
on the process. BLM is an anger that exists because Obama didn't really make black peoples lives significantly better. Having a hypothetical Asian-American man in the White House wouldn't make our lives significantly better either. And having a racist, misogynist, xenophobe there won't make our lives
significantly worse either, and that's what processes are all about. Checks and balances built-in the system, as opposed to having a god-like dictator who's above the law.

 

If you are short on time, at least glance over the first 100 pages of A Conflict of Visions. The explanatory power of his thesis is profound, and reveals why we should fear the left much more (think 18th century French Revolution, which is what today's not-my-president protesters want).

The United States in a huge war of survival.

Since the United States was formed there has been a huge war of survival every 80 or so years.
The American Revolution was 1775-1783-
80 years from 1781 is 1861
The American Civil war.
80 years from that 1941
World war 2

Which brings us to a large scale war sometime between 2015-2021 or even 2025. SO YEAH.. all these predictions about scientific advancement I'd wait to see if our track record has been broken before we start making them.

Its all layed out in the book the 4th turning. Which has more to do with generational cycles than actual cycles of war.

From what I've read and watched it does seem like he believes in the pseudoscience touted in The Fourth Turning, which is what I'm referring to. This is a separate concern from whatever he's peddling over at Breitbart.

see also The Fourth Turning..

I wrote about this over on that other site that shall remain nameless and got a few comments, but also some not-so-good ones. Perhaps the community here might be more understanding and less critical, because this makes perfect sense to me.

Strauss & Howe co-authored a book published in 1997 entitled The Fourth Turning that I could not put down. While researching another topic, they discovered something odd, so they switched gears and researched in depth. They discovered that truly, history repeats itself, with quite distinctive and repeating patterns, going all the way back to the 1100s.

Their premise is simple. Each "turning" is comprised of approximately four 20-year periods similar to regular seasons of spring, summer, fall and winter. Each period lasts the time an average person is born till when we start having children. Four of these equal 80 years, an average lifespan.

The best way to envision this is to put yourself in the shoes of a person born in London England around 1904. Speaking in general, Zeitgeist terms, what would their life experiences be? That period was one of great technological advancement. Trains had been around for quite a while. Automobiles were new and were gaining in popularity. Next, what would be the life experiences of someone born in London in 1924? This time became known as "The roaring twenties" due to industrialization.

Lastly, what was the experience of a Londoner born in 1944? Starkly different. And to finish, envision the life experiences of 1964 London.

Strauss & Howe found the same repeating pattern over and over and over again, all the way back to the Dark Ages. The "turning" prior to and analogous to WWII included the Civil War. The one before that included the Revolutionary War. See where I'm going with this?

Each period corresponds to a season. "Spring" for us during this turning was just after WWII where we all rebuilt and put things back together. "Summer" was in the 1960s and everyone here knows what that was like. "Fall" was the 1980s. This is a period where things reach a zenith and begin to show signs of dying, just as during a regular fall the weather turns colder and trees lose their leaves. And then there's "Winter".

Guess where we are today?

Those born during each season also exhibit repeating patterns. We Boomers were born to buck the system, to challenge the conventionality of society, and that we did. The authors gave our archetype the name of "Patriots". Our job during the winter cycle is to help the "hero" generation, our present-day millennials.

And here is where I get to the reason for this long post. We are in this turning's "Crisis" period, which will end in approximately 2020 to 2025. Just as WWII's Dough Boys fought in the trenches during the last Crisis period, it will be the Millennials this time fighting the great fight. They will need our help, fellow Boomers. That's our job. We offer direction, but they are the one's who get it done.

And this makes me so proud and gives me hope. They are almost speaking in one voice: Enough of the madness, we want progressive policies. They are the ones who are to change the world. So your initial post is spot-on in that our systems and structures are becoming more and more dysfunctional, which will worsen until there's a single event, a tipping point if you will, that will bring everyone together. We have not reached the tipping point yet, but we can all feel and see it coming.

I just hope this time around we don't have a WWIII.

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The understanding of generations can be useful. Its not a predictor on your individual choices, but of society as a whole. Baby boomers and millennials are larger demographically than gen x. The wants and needs of a generation differ from each other. You have different needs from you parents and grandparents. Just like your children will have different wants and needs from you. The size and scope of the generation, plus events in their lifetime, gives information about their choices and decisions, generally speaking.

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Very good post. I would recommend that everyone on here read The Fourth Turning.

There's some interesting demographic/generational cycles.

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The Fourth Turning is reaching its apex.

Behold, the fourth turning is nigh! William Strauss & Neil Howe apparently did a good job making us hate them (both Boomers ;)

Seriously though, this 1994 Book does a great job at foretelling why we're in the situation we are in right now. Basically, all this is inevitable. It has to get worse before it gets better.

For anyone interested in inter-generational dynamics and how they have played out in the history of this country I seriously recommend The Fourth Turning. It was written in 1997 and becomes more relevant everyday.

> It feels like everybody is talking about equality and kindness and all that...but it feels off. It feels artificial.

There was a peak of this sort of trend with the baby boomers this trend in the 60s (Y'know, tune and drop out/peace n' love). The elder generation called us spoiled brats who'd gone soft...I remember at the beginning of the Vietnam war when there was some support, some of the older conservative demographics felt that the war might even straighten some of the hippies out.

The anxieties you feel about generational shifts are natural. I'd highly suggest checking out the books:

https://www.amazon.com/Generations-History-Americas-Future-1584/dp/0688119123

as well as their follow ups

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For anyone who wants to know what is really going on, read the book, "The 4th Turning" to make sense of it all.

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There is a big difference between "hoping for a collapse" and being prepared for "unexpected massive world change."

I've studied a lot of history in my lifetime, and this is what scares me the most:
>"That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons of history." -
Aldous Huxley

I am in my early sixties. I have always been interested in history, learned much of it, and have lived through the history made since WWII. Literally, a lifetime ago.

As I have watched world events over my lifetime, I have felt that something was coming, something was changing, something "new" or unplanned for or expected was due to occur.

In 1997, Straus & Howe came up with this theory of how history repeats in roughly 80 year cycles. This work galvanized what I had learned in decades of study and thought. It just made so much sense.

Zero Hedge did a four part series about this last month that I view as prescient. I didn't post it here, firstly because most here think ZH is baloney, not a truly important alternative news source, and because it was four parts, WAY beyond the attention span of most readers here.

In this article, I find to my amazement that my feelings, my conclusions, my anticipations were shared by others, and that what I was "part of" had happened repeatedly, so it seems that perhaps whatever "event" is coming is an inevitable cycle of history. A cycle that lasts roughly 80 years.

Born in the early fifties, my life has spanned the "Spring, Summer, and Fall" of this cycle. Now the "season" has had it's "fourth turning" and tumultuous times might inevitably be at hand.

It would be foolish to ignore this possibility, as signs of the fourth turning have abounded for some years now. Since you can't exactly predict what and when, it just makes sense to try to be ready for whatever happens, knowing that something is headed done the pike in your direction.

Strauss and Howe would tell you this is right on schedule. We are entering the fourth turning, the Crisis era of our time. The last Crisis was approximately 80 years ago, World War II. The prior one, about 80 years before that, the American Civil War. The one before that, another 80 years or so, the Revolutionary War.

History. Repeats. Itself.

Go on, tell me this theory is bunk. I keep trying to see through it with miniscule little exceptions but haven't been able to shake the broad stroke patterns we've been witness to since I first read the book years ago.

Are you familiar with the Strauss-Howe generational theory? They theorize that American history goes through cycles of approximately 25-year stages. They call these 1) High, 2) Awakening, 3) Unraveling and 4) Crisis. According to them, we are smack dab in the middle of a Crisis period. I'm not sure how valid the model is, but it is interesting nonetheless. It'd detailed in their book, The Fourth Turning.

Relevant-
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If you ever get the opportunity, you should look into a book called The Fourth Turning. Written in 1997, the authors used a cyclical model of history to predict what could be expected over the next 20 years. It's equal parts terrifying and inspiring. Sadly, if it is known at all these days, it's known as Steve Bannon's bible. Which is appropriate I suppose, since it says the exact opposite of what he thinks it says.

The wiki article sources this book in several spots, also written by Strauss and Howe:

https://www.amazon.com/Fourth-Turning-American-Prophecy-Rendezvous/dp/0767900464

And the method that captivated people like Bannon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaWYO_FG9Ec

The theory isn't hard and two of his chief strategist believe it solves their ills.

His supposed suicide note read:

>"No More Games. No More Bombs. No More Walking. No More Fun. No More Swimming. 67. That is 17 years past 50. 17 more than I needed or wanted. Boring. I am always bitchy. No Fun — for anybody. 67. You are getting Greedy. Act your old age. Relax — This won't hurt."

Thompson was from the "traditional generation" (born 1922–1945). This is my teacher's generation. To be frank, not all so-called millennials (born 1977 to 1995) can understand where the traditional generation is really coming from. Gen Z (born 1996 and later) seem to have a better grasp of the traditional generation.

All in the traditional generation had parents who were in the great depression which I guess you could call the "the fourth turning" as when the shite really hits the fan — you know, the grapes of wrath thing (John Steinbeck).

You might not be as crazy as you think. I really enjoyed The Fourth Turning, which posits generational cycles in history. "They substantiate their hypothesis by identifying and tracing a repetitive, four-stage historical cycle that, throughout recorded time, started on a high note and ended in hardship."

I think some of their predictions fall flat since the book was published, but it's interesting to think about: the "engine of history" is the child generation reacting to the parent generation.

lol.

k.

Read this book. Please.

https://www.amazon.com/Fourth-Turning-American-Prophecy-Rendezvous/dp/0767900464

C'est un livre publiée en 1997 par un auteur qui a en gros passé sa carrière à étudier la cyclicité de l'histoire. L'auteur a inventé les mots de génération X Y, Millenial et tout ça. Cela s'intègre dans sa classification de la cyclicité de 80 ans/4 générations avec un profil type pour chaque génération.

C'est la Bible de Bannon, il n'en est pas l'auteur.

The Fourth Turning: An American Prophecy - What the Cycles of History Tell Us About America's Next Rendezvous with Destiny https://www.amazon.com/dp/0767900464/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_oeXEAbXMDWHZJ

The Fourth Turning — gives some profound insight on how we have arrived as a people in America today. Not a book with answers, however; it is an amalgamation of observations based on generational sociology.

This matches up pretty perfectly with the theory in The Fourth Turning:

The Fourth Turning: An American Prophecy - What the Cycles of History Tell Us About America's Next Rendezvous with Destiny https://www.amazon.com/dp/0767900464/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_MQYwybY776C08