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u/Lightslayer · 5 pointsr/Finland

So ever since getting into folk metal a few years ago I've been real big on Finnish myth, so much so that I actually give annual guest lectures on it and have done so for I believe five years now. As others have said, Kalevala is your bread and butter for Finnish myth, and is generally referred to as the cradle of Finnish mythology. I would advise you stay far away from the John Martin Crawford translation, as he did a really awkward job of anglicizing some names but not others. If you want something a little more straightforward, I'd recommend the Bosley translation and if you want something a bit more poetical, go for the Kirby translation. All in all its personal preference. Except the Crawford translation, as that's dogshit.

If you want stuff beyond Kalevala, then there are a few more reads worth looking into, namely Kanteletar, which is a book of folk songs, however that one's almost impossible to get a hold of in English.

Something else to take in mind is the Ballad of Bishop Henrik, which gets a bit away from some of the more fantastical elements of Kalevala.

Also, there's a film called The Sampo which is split up into a few parts on Youtube. It's basically an alternate telling of Kalevala which focuses far more on Ilmarinen and Lemminkäinen than the Kalevala's actual protagonist, Väinämöinen.

Aside from literature and film, there's also a bit of art and music which ought to be taken into account. If you want to know about Finnish myth, and if you read the Kalevala, you're going to want to know what a kantele is, and more importantly you should familiarize yourself with this tune as it pops up quite a bit from various sources. Finally, the artwork of Akseli Gallen-Kallela is pretty important to Finnish romantic nationalism, as many of his works depict scenes from Finnish mythology, with the most notable of his paintings being Sammon puolustus/Defense of the Sampo. Anyways, hope that helps. Feel free to PM me if you want more info.

u/MMeursault · 4 pointsr/books

For Norse sagas, Penguin classics has some fantastic editions:

u/Lanthalona · 3 pointsr/tolkienfans

While it isn't exactly Norse Mythology, the Finnish national epic, The Kalevala, was an important catalyst for inspiring Tolkien to create what would eventually become Arda. I'm currently about 1/3 through and while certain cantos are quite dull, overall my experience with it is very positive. If you're the least bit interested in Finnish culture, I definitely recommend reading it.

u/Tyrja · 2 pointsr/Norse

That is true, in a sense, but not wholly accurate.

The idea that Ahti Saarelainen (his epithet means of the Island, the Island being a locale in Finnish mythology) is the same character as Lemminkäinen is for the most part a 19th-century literary invention. (A few poems suggest this, but it's evidently a late addition.) It is mostly the handiwork of a certain Elias Lönnrot, who, at the middle of the 19th century, compiled a number of Finnish and Karelian poems to create a Finnish national epic, the Kalevala (Finnish for "the land of Kaleva".)

In actual Finnish mythology, Lemminkäinen is a character who appears uninvited at to the feast of the gods, is killed by the host, thrown to the river of the Underworld (Tuonelan joki) and then resurrected by his mother. Since this myth includes the motif of death and rebirth and the name Lemminkäinen bears an similarity to the name Lempo and the Finnish word lempi or "love", some researchers have surmised that Lemminkäinen was actually a male god of fertility and love, somewhat akin to Freyr (or Baldr, considering the manner of his demise).

Ahti, on the other hand, is not a mythic character, but a mortal hero. Ahti is a warrior and a raider - a Viking, if you will - who swears a double oath with his newlywed wife Kyllikki that he should never again go to war, while she vows to never visit another man. A long poetic passage describes Ahti's ship lamenting its fate, having to lie on the shore while other ships bring home gold and silver. Kyllikki breaks her oath, and as a result, Ahti breaks out his weapons, assembles his old warband and sails off. He first goes to Finland to fetch Teuri, a skilled navigator. The ending of the poem is not known, since it usually trails off or merges into another narrative, such as the story of Lemminkäinen.

I hope this is helpful to you. Very little in general is known about Finnish mythology - we don't have any written pre-Christian sources for Finnish myths like we have for Norse ones, just oral poems. If you're interested in Finnish mythology, the best source is probably Wikipedia, although the quality of the articles varies heavily. There's also this paperback translation of the Kalevala, if you're willing to have a go at that.

Otherwise, English sources are practically nonexistent, which is a shame, really.




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This ^recontruction ^is ^the ^courtesy ^of ^the ^Finnish ^folklorist ^Matti ^Kuusi. ^The ^original ^poems ^are ^fragmentary ^and ^contain ^conflicting ^information, ^but ^this ^reconstructed ^version ^holds ^water ^reasonably ^well.

u/BaffledPlato · 1 pointr/Finland

I have Keith Bosley's translation, which seems to follow the meaning more than the rhythm. This isn't necessarily a bad thing.

I'm not a fan of the free versions I have seen online. They are quite dated.