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u/[deleted] ยท 3 pointsr/iranian

> Arabs never settled Iran in large enough numbers for it to be Arabized.

This is equally true of the Europeans in the Americas.

> There was basically no chance that Arabization was gonna happen after Arabs got kicked out in the 9th century

Meanwhile the designation of Persians as Ajam and being denoted to second class citizens in their own country persisted with Arab elites being in charge (and before you say anything, the concept of an Arab Elite is similar to that of British Elites in India - where Indians were used as proxy rulers by British external forces).

> There was basically no chance that Arabization was gonna happen after Arabs got kicked out in the 9th century, and attributing the Persian language's survival to a single guy in the 11th century is exactly the kind of hyperbole I'm taking about

A 300 year occupation is significant. Prior to the works of Ferdowsi and Daqiqi, Farsi was outlawed within Iran. The bans were specifically lifted due to a handful of Sultans in succession with an affinity for poetry. It was only legalised for use in poetry - so Iranians started to just talk to eachother through couplets and in prose. As a result, what survived of old Farsi, is conjugated verbs that rhyme very, very easily and a rhythmic style to our language. (It's also why we have so many damn proverbs).

> Stories about burning of libraries are also discredited.

"If the books contradict the Qur'an, they are blasphemous. On the other hand, if they are in agreement, they are not needed, as for us Qur'an is sufficient." - Umar

Now here's some sources:

On Umar and early Islamic colonisation into Iran (specifically the persecution of Zoroastrians, the destruction of Estakhr and the remnants of Parsa, and the destruction of Zoroastrian texts)

On the destruction of the Library of Avicenna in Isfahan by Sultan Mas'ud I

This fantastic text also touches briefly on the replacement of Farsi with Arabic in Iran during Arab occupation

On al-Hajjaj ibn Yusuf's official decree to ban the use of Farsi at the risk of a death penalty or the removal of one's tongue

[On the Ummayad Dynasty's denotion of non-Arabs as a client status of "mawali" meaning "slave" or "lesser"] (https://www.amazon.com/Karaite-Historical-Understanding-Comparative-Religion/dp/1570035180)


The question had to do with why Iranian's have disdain for Arabs. Again, I, personally do not. But these are very real historically proven and factual events that lend credibility to the disdain of many towards them. Let me say again; I do not in any way hate Arab culture, language or the people. I'm simply telling you what happened in history.