Reddit reviews The Oil Kings: How the U.S., Iran, and Saudi Arabia Changed the Balance of Power in the Middle East
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Thank you for sharing! It was a very interesting documentary. Some thoughts:
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You might want to have look at this. Great book.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Oil-Kings-Arabia-Changed-Balance/dp/1439155186
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2016-05-30/the-untold-story-behind-saudi-arabia-s-41-year-u-s-debt-secret
https://www.amazon.com/Oil-Kings-Arabia-Changed-Balance/dp/1439155186
That book is best read with
https://www.amazon.com/Oil-Kings-Arabia-Changed-Balance/dp/1439155186
How some interests in America and the kings of Iran and Saudi Arabia f'ked up the world for their benefits.
Sorry, but it is your attitude that is wrong. Which can be seen here.
There is a big difference between discussing and randomly ranting without evidence.
Regarding the Islamic Republic
Every government needs a mirror of their actions. If we forbid criticism, we are not able to improve as a society nor in terms of economics.
Thinking that Iran is doing perfectly fine, is a mistake many people on this sub are doing. Yes, Iran is doing great in some areas. But also doing utterly bad in others. Because we Iranians love to make some metaphors:
>If you are studying and you forbid someone to give you feedback about your work. How are you able to improve?
There are many areas where Iran needs to improve. So we should allow criticism:
Regarding Shah
Talking about the time of Shah is always very complex, since information is only in books, statistics or through hearsay available. It is not like the time of the IR where you are whelmed with information.
When you look at every discussion about Shah, people often look at the arguments as "Pro-Shah" or "Anti-Shah" - which prevents having meaningful discussions. These are exact the same group that we have today: "Pro-IR" or "Anti-IR". We need to start to look at the facts instead of letting our emotions in.
Shah's time was a very difficult one. People always forget that Iran was at war back then and often don't understand the economic situation Iran was facing. Saudi Arabia was also playing a significant role in the IR revolution.
The Oil Kings is a good starter for those, who are interested in the time of Shah with a relation to Iran's current situation. It looks at the economic point of view. Here is an excerpt of the last years - thanks to u/FirstMaybe
>In 1977, one year before the outbreak of revolutionary unrest in Iran, oil markets had been paralyzed by a bitter split among members of OPEC over how much to charge consumers. The Shah of Iran had proposed a 15 percent price hike for the coming year. King Khalid of Saudi Arabia had resisted the Shah’s entreaties and argued that no price increase was warranted at a time when Western economies were mired in recession. The Shah won the day and persuaded the rest of OPEC to join him in adopting a double-digit price increase for 1977.
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>The Saudi response was swift and ruthless. Riyadh announced it would take drastic steps to ensure that Iran’s new price regime never took effect. It would do this by exceeding its production quota, pumping surplus oil onto the market, and undercutting the higher price offered by its competitors. Overnight, Iran lost billions of dollars in anticipated oil revenue. The Shah’s government, reeling from the blow, was forced to take out a bridge loan from foreign banks. It made deep cuts to domestic spending in an attempt to balance the books and implemented an austerity plan that threw tens of thousands of young Iranian men out of work and into the streets. The economic chaos that ensued helped turn Iranian public opinion against the royal family.''
And here is why the Shah wanted to increase the oil price:
Conclusion
Again: We need to look at the facts instead of letting our emotions in and preventing us from having a meaningful discussion. Almost every user on r/Iran needs to get approval from the moderator to be able to post something. If it contradicts the view of the mods, it will be deleted. I don't see that here u/faloodehx and I hope I won't see that, since it helps us to improve our understanding of our history by discussing about it.
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Just want to have some input from you guys, am I right or wrong about my view?
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The American government has been doing that for many decades. Did you know the US also used to sell weapons to Iran and gave them everything short of the nuclear bomb. Try reading The Oil Kings: How the U.S., Iran, and Saudi Arabia Changed the Balance of Power in the Middle East for a bit of relavent history.