Reddit reviews The Origins of Order: Self-Organization and Selection in Evolution
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> “Jeremy’s work represents potentially interesting exercises in non-equilibrium statistical mechanics of simple abstract systems.” Any claims that it has to do with biology or the origins of life, he added, are “pure and shameless speculations.”
most important sentence. I really fail to see how his equations are qualitatively different than any of the examples posited by Stuart Kauffman years ago about how entropy can generate ever-changing patterns.
eg - https://www.amazon.com/Origins-Order-Self-Organization-Selection-Evolution/dp/0195079515
> I honestly don't know why I ever bother trying to reason with people on here. The same thing always happens. Nobody listens, tonnes of haters jump on me left right and centre and my comments get downvoted into oblivion.
You need to use reason if you're going to reason with people. Saying that your lack of understanding is a flaw of science is flawed reasoning. Your examples scream of a lack of basic scientific knowlege. And by 'scientific' I don't mean 'godless', I mean backed up by evidence.
Just because you don't understand something, that doesn't mean that others don't understand it either.
I found a book (at a used book sale at a church of all places), 'The Origins of Order: Self-Organization and Selection in Evolution', and it really opened my eyes to how these things can work. How things can very easily organize out of nothing because of a few basic constant properties of physics. You really should read that book or something like it if you want to better engage in these kinds of debates.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Origins-Order-Self-Organization-Selection/dp/0195079515
> The Origins of Order: Self-Organization and Selection in Evolution.
> I'm not aware of too many articles, but you could try this one co-authored by
Kaufmann a few years before the book was published.
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>Life, assuming of course it is spontaneous, is a game of statistics.
Yes and no, and that is because "statistics" can mean many things. Iron does what it does, carbon does what it does, etc. If compound X can't form, it does not matter how often we try. If X takes so much energy that things will melt, then that is what it takes. I would suggest Kauffman's Origins of Order, but the book is astoundingly dense and math filled.
To look at this another way, the easy of making/breaking carbon bonds gives us orders of magnitude more opportunities for carbon based life. And that itself is sufficient to push us to look for carbon based life (assuming we have to chose).
Check out The Origins of Order or other works by Stuart Kauffman. He has done done interesting work on the emergent properties of complex systems.
https://www.amazon.com/Origins-Order-Self-Organization-Selection-Evolution/dp/0195079515