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u/Arhadamanthus · 11 pointsr/AskHistorians

To be fair, I would hesitate to answer anything about Jung, as my area of expertise is renaissance/early modern alchemy. So I could tackle Paracelsus, but not Jung.

That, of course, does not stop me from wanting to buy this facsimile of his Red Book.

u/Wonder-octopus · 8 pointsr/books

Jung's Red Book is the closest I can think of. There's a fascinating obsession with it among some people. If you pay out, let me know what it's like.

u/kingnemo · 6 pointsr/books

Me either, its hard to find. Here are some sample illustrations and here are some editorial reviews for those that might not be familiar. I don't own a copy myself but I'll likely get it in my next batch of books from Amazon and ready myself for some psychonautics.

u/RottenDeadite · 6 pointsr/movies

I read a lot of Campbell and I just started reading Jung. Jung makes Campbell seem like ginger beer. A lot of Jung's stuff is way thicker, a lot more difficult and the footnotes are almost as long as the text itself.

The Red Book is a real mindjob. That's what I'm on right now.

u/NotTrying2BEaDick · 5 pointsr/askpsychology

Depends on the theoretical models he’s interested in. Here’s my favorite Jungian gift:
The Red Book
It’s something I would never have bought myself because of the cost, but am glad to have it for its historical significance.

u/wiseblood_ · 5 pointsr/Jung

If you're done with the surface level stuff and have all the basics covered, pretty much all of Jung's important work is in the collected works (there's also The Red Book, but that's probably not a good starting point).

There really is no "recommended reading order" for Jung. The CW Wiki page has the release dates for each book, but a few of his books were revised multiple times (there were four editions of Symbols of Transformation, for example), so I don't really know how much of a good barometer that's gonna be. Archetypes of the Collective Unconscious and Psychological Types are popular, not terribly difficult, pretty good starting points for the CW. Aside from a few of more notoriously difficult books like Aion and the works on alchemy (vol 12-14), you can pretty much move on to anything else after that.

Symbols of Transformation is also a key text, it's the book that pretty much laid the groundwork for all of Jung's thought after he separated from Freud. It is not an easy read but if you understand SoT you've got a solid grip on Jung and can probably handle the rest of the CW. And all that aside, it's an extremely rewarding text.

u/brandnewset · 3 pointsr/psychology

http://www.amazon.com/Red-Book-C-G-Jung/dp/0393065677

$117 now!! LOL = I must be dreaming!

u/ulvok_coven · 2 pointsr/satanism

Esoteric religions/philosophies/whatever believe the human spirit has a divinity of some form or fashion that can ascend or transmute themselves into communing with ordinarily invisible parts of the cosmos. However, to do so, requires symbols and paradoxes and lots of mediating initiations to prepare the mind to see that stuff.

Part of what distinguishes 'esoteric' stuff from 'mystic' stuff is that esotericism is modern - it is invented during Late Antiquity and its formative years are the Renaissance. Most esotericists claim their traditions have roots in much older and mostly forgotten traditions. Most of these claims are baseless. In fact, I've never seen one that isn't at least willful distortion, except maybe for those offshoots of Kaballah. The other distinguishing feature is that mysticism may use symbols to access the divine, while esotericism finds it absolutely necessary.

For example, Tibetan Buddhism and Zen are highly symbolic and believe the human can achieve the divine, but they don't hold that initiation is necessary at all, and generally agree you can be born enlightened, or that non-Buddhists can be enlightened. Kaballah is very close to being esoteric, but it isn't, because there's some debate over whether true communion with god is actually achievable, and they also hold that Kaballah itself isn't necessary but rather useful.

I wouldn't belabor this distinction if it wasn't rather important. Western mystic and esoteric sect make many claims about foreign religions without any solid evidence, and it is key to examine them closely, because there are historians and analysts in that field who will debunk half or more of those claims.

Antoine Faivre is the foremost scholar in studying esoteric religions, he's not a bad place to get an understanding of the trend. If you're looking for an intellectual 'in,' I find Carl Jung's work more accessible than most. Aleister Crowley's Thelemic writings aren't bad either. The trick is to assume you're not supposed to understand half the things going on until the third time you read it, and then it's less frustrating.

u/PM_ME_BOOBPIX · 2 pointsr/JordanPeterson
u/LunamEtSterri · 2 pointsr/occult

Carl Jung's RED BOOK is not a traditional magic book but it is definitely supplemental to any magical library.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Red-Book-Philemon-Jung/dp/0393065677

u/phindingphilemon · 2 pointsr/JordanPeterson

A lot of good points and excellently argued.

You may be right as regards the timeline here. Like I said, although I poke my head in every now and then, I do not follow Peterson as closely as I used to, so exactly when he realized he would have the kind of public support he has garnered, I am not in a great position to say. I take too your point about Peterson being in a somewhat sheltered academic post and I think that explains a great deal. When I see Peterson post random dregs from academic journals on Twitter with the caption "Look out biologists! They're coming for you next!" I often wonder 'what in the world is this guy on about?' I think a good corollary to the axiom 'to the man with a hammer, everything looks like a nail,' is 'to a man confronted with nails everyday, it starts to look like a pretty good idea to keep a hammer handy.' Perhaps if I was a more or less permanent fixture in the machine of academia, I would begin to feel a similar kind of overwhelm in response to the type of moral confusion of which college campuses seem uniquely capable of producing these days.

As far as the Alexander quote, I'm not sure how you wouldn't define someone feeling that 'their very right to exist is being challenged' as an activation of the underdog archetype. In fact, from an adaptive standpoint (in case you couldn't tell from my glowing recommendation of Stevens, I subscribe to the biological paradigm of the archetypes), I would argue that this is exactly what the underdog archetype was evolved for. In the environment of evolutionary adaptiveness, consider what happens to the individual that underestimates his enemy (i.e. assumes overdog status), and then to the individual that overestimates his enemy (i.e. assumes underdog status). And the adaptive advantages of assuming underdog status aren't restricted to the individual. If you want to whip up an irrational, violent mob, the standard way to begin is by convincing them that they are under attack from a bigger, stronger enemy. There is clearly some utility in feeling that one's 'very right to exist is being challenged,' as well as some dangers to not being conscious of the processes taking place. If I think a lion is challenging my very right to exist, its good to be aware of my handicap. If I think that a Professor that refuses to call me Ze or Zir is challenging my right to exist, it is the same archetype, maladaptively projected. One gets the same feeling that they are under attack but they are profoundly confused as to how dire the objective situation really is. (Or, put bluntly: they are unconscious).

Similarly, I have to also disagree with your assertion that "Nobody vocal is ever motivated by fear of their fellow man." The fear may be unconscious, but as far as I'm concerned, where there is aggression, there is unconscious fear, exactly for the reasons I outlined above.

EDIT: Re-reading your comment, that remark about Alexander being a 'creative writing visionary type' jumped out at me and reminded me of another 'creative writing visionary type' that I happen to have learned an awful lot from. I guess I'm giving away my username here but I'm assuming you already had that one figured out ;)

u/Ivaen · 2 pointsr/Fantasy

The Red Book: Liber Novus by C. G. Jung 9.4 lbs

https://www.amazon.com/Red-Book-Philemon-C-Jung/dp/0393065677

u/dviper785 · 1 pointr/psychology

I'm only about half-way through it, but I think the book your looking for is The Red Book which was just recently released from the Jung family's swiss bank vault, after collecting dust for about half a century. This NYTime's article does a fantastic job of telling the very rich story of the book.

From what I have read so far, the archetypes are formed from the experiences outlined in this book [events that take place within the unconscious mind]; his dreams and "active imagination" sessions, which could be comparable to waking hallucinations. The bridge, I think, is that he found all the same symbols in his dreams/imagination sessions as in the many patients he analyzed himself - leading him to the formation of the archetypes and the idea of the collective unconscious. I'm not yet at the point where I could articulate a valid tl;dr answer for you, and also keep in mind this is just my interpretation of the material, not "solid facts."

It's really something you have to read to understand, it's no easy task either, challenging and delightful.

u/moscowramada · 1 pointr/promos

I am a bibliophile and I would really like this book: Jung's Red Book, which is profiled here in the New York Times. It's a beautiful book, by all descriptions, a true work of art. It's a little beyond what I would spend on myself this season, so I thought it would qualify for this thread.

u/trt13shell · 1 pointr/Jung
u/[deleted] · 1 pointr/books

Did you actually buy a copy of The Red Book? I have been pining for a copy, but $119 is a little pricey for me. Especially since I am not actually studying psychology.

u/sk8ingdom · 1 pointr/OkCupid

Person, hands down. Doesn't mean that we don't play together. But I never want to be in the business of objectification. I want the full nine yards.

EVERYONE is a person. They have wants, desires, needs, and HUMANITY. The good, the bad, the exciting, the mundane, the hilarious, the fantastical, etc. I want it all.

Entertainment is temporary until the next, slightly more absurd thing comes along. I want to peer into someone's soul and see them for all that they are.

u/parasitic_spin · 1 pointr/tipofmytongue
u/187ninjuh · 1 pointr/UFOs

Hey may be speaking about the "inner space" of the mind.

I've only made it through the introduction (100+ pages, so I'm not that bad) but this book has really set my mind aflame.

Being a Human can be very complicated.

u/mackadoo · 1 pointr/boardgames
u/Apollonian · 1 pointr/occult

Check out Carl Jung's Liber Novus, also known as the Red Book. What I believe you are experiencing is a state Jung termed active imagination.
It took practice for me to attain a similar realm/state, but it required disassociating myself from past and future and letting my imagination form a reality apart from emotion and desire.
There are beings (which I view as aspects of my subconscious psyche) that I can commune with in this state, and I have found it very useful.
I would interpret what happens to you in meditation as you entering a state of active imagination and your subconscious putting you through a necessary trial - or an experience that is a symbol of a trial you need to undergo.
The realms of mental experience are incredibly vast, however, and it may not be appropriate for me to project my experience onto your own in this manner.

u/jordanlund · 0 pointsr/books

Weirdest or weirdest readable?

Weirdest book I know of is the Voynich Manuscript but I wouldn't exactly call it readable.

Weirdest book that's easily obtainable? Carl Jung's red book, kind of a dream diary.

http://www.amazon.com/Red-Book-C-G-Jung/dp/0393065677/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1302109230&sr=8-4