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u/jamesvreeland · 5 pointsr/succulents

Sure thing. We're just setting it up for the winter, as most of her plants do very well outside (Detroit). Are you looking at a year-round terrarium setup, or a place to maintain them across a cold/wet season?

She went through and sorted everything by light/temp/water needs and figured out that her cephalotus/sarracenia (potted pitchers), drosera(sundews), and most of her pinguicula (butterworts) will be ok with a similar temp range - so they are all going into the same tank. I've been voluntold that I'm building risers this weekend to make sure each one gets the right amount of light - from a 4' x 4 tube T5 light setup that rests on top of the tank, just like an aquarium. There is a waterproof heating pad under the tank, and a thermometer inside to keep tabs on temp.

The top easily comes off and a couple pieces of plexi keep humidity constant. Since they won't be naturally hunting inside the tank plants can be dropper feed a thinned out 16/16/16 (maybe 18/18/18 - I don't know these things) solution, or you can apparently get wingless fruit flies or freeze dried mealworms.

Her nephentes (hanging/tropical pitchers) are getting cycled between window rods and the big shelving unit for succulents/orchids.

These books are definitely worth checking out:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1607744104/ (great wide overview)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1505891604/


TLDR:

  • 4'x'2'x2' - 75gal tank (3 sided, removable mylar blanket)
  • undertank heating pad
  • 4' x 4 tube T5 light on top
  • risers to create platforms at 12"/18"/24" from the light

    Hope this helps. If you have any questions, PM me and I'll direct you to the expert. All of my knowledge comes from whatever I need to order online or construct to support the habit.
u/predatoryplants · 4 pointsr/SavageGarden

There are some really awesome books out there:

The Savage Garden is always a great gift, but if he's an expert then he probably already has it. California Carnivores sells books signed by Peter (the author,) which could be fun.

Do you have an idea of what specific plants he's into (Nepenthes, sundews, Sarracenia)? If there's a specific type that he's passionate about, Stewart McPherson's books are incredibly detailed and beautiful (they're on Amazon too.)

Plants are a good way to go, but it's risky if you don't know what you're doing. If he's on any forums (Terraforums, etc) then he might have a "want list" posted. I know it's a stretch, but if you can find that then you're in great shape. If you happen to know of specific plants that he's after, PM me and I can try to help you source them.

u/Lagomorph_Wrangler · 4 pointsr/RedditDayOf

There are a couple different species you could potentially keep in a kitchen environment as long as you have appropriate conditions.

Your best bet is going to be to check out /r/savagegarden, read Barry Rice's Carnivorous Plant FAQ and if you start getting serious, purchase a copy of The Savage Garden which is probably the best book around for learning how to grow carnivorous plants.

In terms of species that will do well in that environment, you're probably going to want to look at the genus Drosera (Sundews) or maybe Nepenthes (Tropical Pitcher Plants).

The best Sundews for your purposes are going to be:

  1. Drosera capensis - Cape Sundew

  2. Drosera binata - Fork Leafed Sundew

  3. Drosera spatulata - Spoon Leafed Sundew

    Those are all fairly easy to cultivate and as long as fairly appropriate conditions are provided, they will thrive.

    I'm not really certain of what Nepenthes would be best, as I don't really grow too many of them.

    For "around the house growing" you're going to have to keep two major factors in mind.

    • Light - CPs require lots and lots of light to do really well, this can be provided by either a windowsill with direct light exposure for a decent part of the day, or by appropriate growlights, which can be used exclusively, or to supplement natural lighting.

    • Water - Most CPs need Distilled or Deionized water to thrive, the other stuff destroys their roots and can kill the plant, so you need to either install a Reverse Osmosis filter, or just buy a jug or two of distilled water from your grocery store. You're also going to want to keep their humidity high, which can definitely be achieved in any kind of household environment.

      Last thing, don't worry about the black thumb, I have an extremely pronounced one, but CPs seem to be just about the only thing I can actually grow! They're pretty easy to grow once you get a hang of it!
u/Sarr_Cat · 3 pointsr/SavageGarden

> Is there a guide anywhere to owning them?

You're lookin' for a guide, huh? Well, this book is one of the best ones out there. Not only is it a guide to venus flytraps, it's a guide to all kinds of other carnivorous plants too. You could check your local library to see if they have it, the library near me does.

u/jwaterworth · 2 pointsr/SavageGarden

> Do I put sand / bark / styrofoam / tiny rocks at the very bottom of the pot?

You dont have to put anything at the bottom of the pot. Personally I use rocks as a filter so I dont lose any medium through the drainage hole, but i've read you can use LFS and it'll do the same thing.

> Should I use an empty bottle inside the soil as a water reservoir or is a pipe with holes in it a better solution?

I've done both. With the bottle I can dump a lot of water very fast into the pot. I use it for my big pots. The pipe is okay but will quickly overflow and I still have to wait for the water to be absorbed into the soil before I can add more.

> After browsing this sub for a while, it seems to be the consensus to create a 33:66 to 50:50 mixture of sand:soil. Why is that a thing? Is it to make it easier for the water to spread throughout the pot?

There is a book called The Savage Garden where the author talks about different media mixes he has tried. For Sarracenia he recommends 80/20 peat to perlite. Perlite is porous so its full of air and will absorb water . The book also goes through other common mixes and states their benefits.

> Is the height of the pot an issue?

I dont think the height will be an issue. If youre worried about the amount of soil you'll need, you can put something in the bottom to fill up space. Ive heard people use Styrofoam to fill up space and reduce weight

> Will the water be able to spread to the middle from the bottom, or the bottom fill up with standing water that will eventually start to smell?

Peat moss is like a sponge and will keep itself moist all over as long there is water in the pot. I read a post from somebody who said they used new soil every 2 years because the plants started doing poorly and the water would start to smell bad at the bottom. I havent experienced any issues in my setups though.

u/CM400 · 2 pointsr/carnivorousplants

I think an American pitcher would probably eat the most, but I don't think they will be as effective as you'd like. Carnivorous plants can be difficult to care for, but they are beautiful and enjoyable to own. If you decide to try, I recommend picking up the book Savage Garden, it will give you a good basis for understanding and caring for them, and California Carnivores is a reputable place to buy them.
I mentioned Sarracenia earlier, but since it will not really solve your problem (with just a couple of plants, at least), I would personally go with one of the many sundews available, since they are pretty AND you can watch the mechanism they employ to eat, though, depending on the flies you have, they may not be very attracted to the plant.

Good luck, and I hope it works out for you.

u/c4stiron · 2 pointsr/SavageGarden

Yay ! New CP people :)!


For water: Do not use Tap water. Use Distilled, Reverse Osmosis, or Rain water only.

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Dormancy has been covered above. Where do you intend to keep your VFT? Inside / outside?


California Carnivores are a great resource for care tips :)
https://www.californiacarnivores.com/collections/venus-flytraps-dionaea-muscipula/products/dionaea-m-typical-deluxe-potted


Also a good resource is the CP bible
https://www.amazon.com/Savage-Garden-Revised-Cultivating-Carnivorous/dp/1607744104

u/KnightFalling · 1 pointr/SavageGarden

Stink bugs are not their natural most common prey, but they wont be exempt from turning into snacks.
Give your plants time and those conditions described above. For the future: read Savage Garden, its a great source of information and will answer all your questions. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1607744104/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Look into dormancy in the winter. You may need to add layers of protection, like wood chips over your plants if your winters are harsher than the ones they usually experience. You have time obviously to look into this.

u/tapirmy · 1 pointr/plants

Most carn. plants need a lot of water (tray method) and lots of light. Depending on your USDA zone you can keep them outside. I have flytraps, sarracenias and some sundews in my garden all year round. In winter they are not pretty but in summer they thrive.
Try to get a copy of this book the Savage Garden.
It has a much info. Lots of love for the plants and 'learn as you go' worked for me.