Reddit reviews ThrustMaster 2960738 HOTAS Warthog Flight Stick PC

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Less expensive than the Warhog, but better (supports upgrades) more info on the Black Mamba.

I use my TWCS with a Warthog and T.Flight Rudder pedals. It's a fabulous combo, and works great.

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https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-HOTAS-Warthog-Flight-Stick/dp/B00CBVHJ00/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=warthog+joystick&link_code=qs&qid=1561977857&s=gateway&sourceid=Mozilla-search&sr=8-1

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$201 out the door for the stick...

Amazon had it on sale around thanksgiving/christmas time. It went from 300, to 250, to 230, to 215 to 200? I think was the final price at once point.. I held out til it was 215, didn't regret it one bit.

WOW Evidentally it went all the way down to 160 at one point last year on Amazon:

http://camelcamelcamel.com/Thrustmaster-HOTAS-Warthog-Flight-Stick-PC/product/B00CBVHJ00?context=browse

I’m about 5 months into DCS. I played some flight sims when I was a kid, 20 years ago, in the Jane’s F/A-18 days, but nothing until DCS. I bought the Flaming Cliffs pack of modules and the A-10C and learned to fly the F-15C mostly at first but slowly read through the 600+ page manual for the A-10C and worked through the training missions and a few campaign missions. The F-15C is great because it doesn’t take too long to learn and you can be having fun shooting down AI flankers in a 10 solid hours of learning and start to get into tactics, the A-10C is definitely the most complicated thing I’ve ever learned for fun. I usually spend a good hr working on A-10C avionics training, then reward myself by jumping in the F-15 when I sit down for a session.

If you do jump into something like the A-10C, I’d recommend getting a quality HOTAS with lots of hat switches, trying to learn the intricacies of avionics and remember keyboard shortcuts and button modifiers is a very big complexity multiplier. I started with a cheap stick then bought the Thrustmaster t16000m and Throttle which works great for F-15, but isn’t quite up to the A-10, so I bought the Warthog stick and use it with the throttle from the t16000.

Actually, the controllers in that video aren't the one I have. Mine are a little more advanced and have more switches/buttons that the A-10C has.

Throttle Controller

Joystick

Yes you can use the CH throttle with 3D pro to make it a hotas. The difference between the fighter stick and the combat stick are; The Fighter stick replaces two of the buttons on the Combat stick with 4 way hats.

Combat Stick = 3 axis and 18 buttons (six push buttons, one 4 way hat switch, and one 8 way point of view hat)

Fighter Stick= 3 axis and 24 buttons (three push buttons, one mode switch button, three 4 way hat switches and one 8 way point of view hat).

Ch Pro Throttle = 3 Traditional push buttons, 1 mode switch button, 3 4-way directional hat and 1 8-way POV hat switch

Depending on what you're playing you may not need all the hats on the Fighter Stick if you get the pro throttle. If you're not looking to spend a lot and are happy wth 3-d the Pro throttle seems to be a nice addition.

Later on, down the road, if you want to upgrade you could get pedals and by the warthog stick separately. Or just buy a new hotas and sell the CH throttle on ebay.

if you're doing flight sims and like your stick I would get the CH throttle and either make your own or purchase a head tracker, (track IR). For flight sims, it's more essential than rudder pedals

warthog is occasionally sold for $299 on amazon/newegg/etc in the thruster combo pack. you can get the stick alone for $250 any time not on sale, which also occasionally sells for like $200 on its own.

Just the sticks:

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-HOTAS-Warthog-Flight-Stick/dp/B00CBVHJ00/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1472944778&sr=8-3&keywords=warthog

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA91J43S0697&cm_re=warthog-_-1CV-002B-00G72-_-Product

sure but the warthog is also triple the price of the CH.

$284 just for the warthog joystick

http://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-HOTAS-Warthog-Flight-Stick-PC/dp/B00CBVHJ00/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1397531164&sr=1-1&keywords=warthog+joystick

which is FAR out the reach of even most hardcore gamers.

vs $97 for the fighterstick.

who cares what it looks like. I want quality and performance before aesthetics.

Still one hell of a deal

Amazon has the stand alone stick for $249.99.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CBVHJ00/ref=s9_acsd_simh_hd_bw_bRCwGx_c_x_w?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-2&pf_rd_r=ZMW72T2G3CMES40N60QA&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=0baa781b-8e12-544e-a79e-db966c8b4415&pf_rd_i=402045011&th=1

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And the HOTAS for $365.36

https://www.amazon.com/ThrustMaster-2960720-Thrustmaster-Hotas-Warthog/dp/B00371R8P4/ref=lp_402050011_1_3?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1570841422&sr=1-3&th=1

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At those prices I couldn't recommend not saving up a bit and getting the upgrade.

I use the Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS and also got a second Warthog Stick for a dual stick setup.

http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/accessories/apd/a9168831?cid=309562&st=&gclid=CLWYqP6dk9QCFR1LDQodiiAAFw&lid=5848362&VEN1=s7nLQ1cQ4,183457792450,901pdb6671,m,,A9168831&VEN2=,&dgc=ST&DGSeg=DHS&acd=1230980731501410&VEN3=812403894302130950

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CBVHJ00/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_IJXkzbZ5X9RT3

I also use the VKB Rudder Pedals.

http://store-x-plane-org.3dcartstores.com/VKB-T-Rudder-Pedals-MkIV_p_571.html

As for matching sticks, I am waiting to get the VIRPIL grips since they fit on the Warthog bases.

https://virpil.com/en/filtered/gpips/


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Alternatively, you can go with two VKB Gunfighter bases and wait for VKB SIM to release their newer right handed and left handed grips (which you can purchase later).

https://vkbcontrollers.com/?product=vkb-sim-gunfighter-base-only

Or perhaps two VKB Gladiator Pros for now and update both grips or just the left grip later when they eventually release:

https://vkbcontrollers.com/?product=vkb-gladiator

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Another way to go about it is getting two T16000 sticks (for a dual stick setup):

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MQEDEEW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_8UXkzbM4P2BW7

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Or just go with the T16000 HOTAS (with or without pedals):

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KCHPRXA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_PVXkzbAW6TM7K

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015PII6YI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_yWXkzb0KK7FTK

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Now although there are other options, like the Saitek products (X52, X55/X56) and CH products, those just aren't my cup of tea and too many problems plague the Saitek products that they don't seem to be worth investing in. I returned mine and got the Warthog setup and it's so much better. Night and day difference.

I hope I have listed enough choices at different price points to help you make a more informed decision.

And YES, DUAL STICKS are the best :D

What simulator are you flying in is a good start.

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I've heard a lot of whirlybird guys really like the VKB T-Rudders for flying.

For a stick you want something with low centering force. This can be achieved by getting something adjustable like a VPC base or by adding an extension to a stick like the TM Warthog

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As for collective and stuff, I am afraid I cant help. Seen a few guys build custom ones but as a fixed wing simmer I'm not familiar with any pre-made parts for that

$230 for Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog Flight Stick is good price, cost $260 in Amazon.com:

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-HOTAS-Warthog-Flight-Stick/dp/B00CBVHJ00