Reddit reviews Timeless Skin Care 20% Vitamin C Plus E Ferulic Acid Serum, 1 Fl Oz (Pack of 1)

Timeless Skin Care 20% Vitamin C Plus E Ferulic Acid Serum, 1 oz https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0036BI56G/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_PRGDAbRS12ZX6


Claire-ity 25% Vitamin C Serum with Hyaluronic Acid and Vitamin E, Best Organic Anti-Aging Moisturizer Serum for Face, Neck & Décolleté and Eye Treatment (1 fl. oz) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OKY87OS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_3SGDAbDW006V9

Vitamin C 1 oz Serum with Organic Hyaluronic Acid - Lighten Sun Spots, Anti Aging, Anti Wrinkle - Light and Oxygen Stable MAP Vitamin C - ASTERWOOD NATURALS - Classic Formula Bottle https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GVUZODA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_8TGDAbJ419E6C

I also get my B3 through [MIZON] Good Night White Sleeping Mask 50ml (1.69 fl.oz.) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GB1E940/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_4UGDAb45GG14N

Timeless C serum with E and ferulic is a good one. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0036BI56G

The Power Defense is an antioxidant serum with retinol. Paula's Choice SKIN BALANCING Super Antioxidant Concentrate Serum does the same thing. Or, you might want to consider the CALM Redness Relief Repairing Serum.

For a cleanser, you could try the CALM Redness Relief Cleanser as an alternative to the ZO cleanser.

You might want to think about using a chemical exfoliant instead of a scrub. Apply it a very thin layer a few times a week and leave it on. In the long run, your skin will be smoother and more radiant that with weekly "polishing" sessions.

As far as a Vitamin C serum is concerned, there so many formulations that entire posts have been written (see the wiki entry in the sidebar) here and elsewhere. The primary research on Vitamin C was conducted with L-Ascorbic Acid. Subsequent work showed that including Vitamin E and Ferrulic Acid increases the effectivity dramatically. L-Ascorbic Acid can be irritating though so a lot of other forms have been developed.

For an affordable LAA formula, you might want to look at Cosmetic Skin Solutions (15%) or Timeless (20%).

L-Ascorbic Acid is more irritating than the form you've been using. If you find that you can't tolerate it or that the formula doesn't work well with your other skin care products, you can experiment with other forms such as the MAP (Magnesium Ascorbyl Phosphate) version from The Ordinary or the Ascorbyl Tetraisopalmitate Solution (a form that's getting a lot of attention these days). Note: since you are using an antioxidant serum in the evening, think about applying your Vitamin C in the morning before your sunscreen, to amp up the photo-protection during the day.

I was going to come in here and rave about Timeless so yes it is the best and not ungodly expensive!

Amazon link

So do you shower?

Jk~ if your back has sensitive skin I would recommend you to not use regular body wash as most contain sodium lauryl sulfate. This is an ingredient that is known to cause skin problems, but it is so disturbingly ubiquitous in body washes that people may never realize that its the culprit. Dove sensitive skin bar (unscented one) is a good replacement.

A gentle cleanser is one that is of 5-5.5pH, not scrubs, simple ingredient list, no fragrance to list a free. The Cerave Hydrating Cleanser is a good example along with the Neutrogena Ultra Gentle Daily Face Cleanser (gel, not foam formula).

If you are worried in scarring, invest in some vitamin C serums, and products and ingredients with "whitening effects" (niacinamide, arbutin, kojic acid, etc.). A lot of Asian products focus heavily on "whitening" - it doesn't mean to bleach the skin white, but to remove/prevent hyper pigmentation like acne scarring, sun spots, etc. For something close you home you can try this low cost but effective brand.

A basic skincare low-cost starter pack for you can look like this:

A.M.

1. Cleanser
   
   
2. Timeless Vitamin C serum (wait 20 mins)
   
   
3. Moisturizer
   
   
4. Sunscreen <-very important since you are using accutane which increases your skin's photosensitivity. The deadly lazer in the sky can and will fuck your skin up. American sunscreen is shit, European and Japanese one are way better. But if you don't have the patience then pick something from this list.
   
   P.M.
   
   
5. Cleanser
   
   
6. The Ordinary niacinamide serum
   
   
7. Moisturizer
   
   
8. Vaseline - skin and lips. Honestly, no $200+ moisturizer even comes close to beating vaseline in terms of transepidermal water loss prevention - ie. keeping the skin hydrated. I assume accutane is drying your skin and lips out huh? Not cosmetically elegant and you will probably have to change pillow case more often, but it gets the job done.
   
   
   
   
   

Just checked out the ingredients list. I don't see any high powered anti-aging ingredients in it and fragrance is listed really high up. And it's $50. I'd quit wasting your money and invest in a Vitamin c serum or a product with retinol. There are great products out there with both of these ingredients that are cheaper and more effective than the Kiehls serum.

An SCA favorite is Timeless Vitamin C. It's an inexpensive dupe for a much more expensive product. I can personally vouch for its effectiveness.

One of my personal faves is Alpha Skincare 12% Glycolic Cream. It's a fabulous glycolic acid product that makes my skin soooo smooth. Any little CCs or pimples I get are annihilated by this cream. I find it pretty gentle as well. The ingredients list is very short. As with all acids, start at a lower percentage and work your way up. 12% is too strong if you're new to acids.

There's tons of products to choose from when it comes to retinol. It's hard to give a recommendation without knowing exactly what you're looking for. Try thinking about what kind of formulation you want (serum, cream) and go from there. And if you start using retinol, be sure to use a sunscreen. Hope this helps.

I don't know anything about the products you mentioned, but these are possibilities for you:

• NuFountain is a great product and price! You can also buy 3 bottles at a time for the price of 2.
  
  
• Timeless is also another brand I've heard good things about!

This Timeless vitamin c serum ($15-$24, price fluctuates) is an almost exact dupe for more expensive ones (Paula's Choice is $48, etc.).

https://www.amazon.com/20-Vitamin-Ferulic-Acid-Serum/dp/B0036BI56G

Essential oils can always be bought cheap as fuck in bulk. On Amazon there are a few brands of argan oil for around $3.25/oz, as opposed to Josie Maran which is literally the exact same thing for $28.25/oz.

Always stay on the lookout. If something is expensive as fuck, chances are there is something with the same or similar ingredients for cheaper, especially things with very few ingredients like vitamin C serums or oils. Personally all of my skincare products (makeup remover, daily AHA, weekly AHA, vitamin C, serum, moisturizer, oil) are all under $25. I don't think I would spend more than $50 on a skincare product. That shit would either have to last forever or be liquid skin perfection in a bottle.

I'm using the Timeless serum. It's a watery consistency, I just dab it all over in the AM before my sunscreen.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0036BI56G/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1452439021&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=timeless+vitamin+c+serum&dpPl=1&dpID=41sYJAEDXHL&ref=plSrch

For your melasma , I would use a sunblock, most of the time that is caused by sun exposure so you don't want to undo whatever treatment for them you are doing.

For sunblock I would explore the Asian brands which designed to be cosmetically elegant and even if you buy them online, they aren't usually too expensive. A really popular brand is Biore UV Aqua Rich Watery Essence. It can be purchased on Amazon. Another brand , Canmake gets really good reviews here on Reddit for being moisturizing and working well under makeup. It is moisturizing as well so during the day you probably won't need a separate moisturizer .

I would skin the brightening face washes and invest in face washes which will be gentle and non-drying. Facewashes aren't on the skin long enough IMO to really help.

Just depending how bad your melasma is , it just may not be able to correct using OTC products. It may need laser treatment but a few things you can try which is known to help is hydroquinone and 20% glycolic acid ( you will want to build up tolerance to 20% ).

I would also add vitamin C serum for skin brightening .

For a moisturizer , I love La Roche-Posay double repair. It has Niacinamide which has anti-aging benefits and it's very moisturizing. If you DO use the glycolic acid peels you will want something like this that can help restore your moisture barrier.

I've heard good things about this vitamin C serum.

I started using vitamin c serum to reduce redness on healed blemishes after reading about it here. I have seen a reduction in their noticeability over the past few months. This is the one I use.

You might consider a vitamin C serum or a niacinamide lotion/cream. While they won't affect your pore size or your skin texture, both ingredients are helpful for evening skin color. Most of the time you hear about people using them for freckles or dark marks, but they help redness too. I see you like PC products, so you might want to consider these: Resist C15 Super Booster and Resist Pure Radiance Skin Brightening Treatment. I love them both, but they are a bit too pricey for me to use all the time. For more affordable products, you could consider the Timeless Vitamin C serum (I haven't tried it yet, but I am looking forward to it) and Pond's Clarant B3 (love this).

If you don't want to research I would recommend Curology. It's a 20USD a month prescription that comes with someone with some sort of medical-related degree to act as a dermatologist. Mine's a PA, and no where near qualified to be dermatologists, but for this purpose I find it's good enough. You upload photos of your skin and fill out a quick survey of your goals and you receive a 1 oz/30mL topical prescription with their recommended ingredients for you (e.g. mine's azelaic acid/clindamycin/niacinamide to target PIH and acne) that you apply once a day at night and usually follow up with a moisturiser. Because Curology is technically a prescription, you will also have access to tretinoin, which is one of the most studied retinoids for addressing anti-aging issues and can't be bought OTC in the US. If you want to add anything on top of your prescription, like a Vitamin C serum, you can also talk that over with your derm and they can recommend you products and talk about what to look for or tell you it's unnecessary. If 20USD a month is too expensive for you, then you can sign up for one month, receive the prescription topical treatment, and then cancel your subscription until you run out and then start the trial again when you need more product. The downside of this is that you won't have access to your dermatologist when your subscription isn't active.

If you're not interested in Curology, then to answer your questions

• Sunscreen: Yes, especially for anti-aging. I'm preferential to the asian beauty sunscreen recommendations. Just pick a random one--that's what I do. Biore Watery Essence is popular and available on Amazon.
  
• Moisturiser: CeraVe PM is a solid, no-fragarance no-nonsense moisturiser. I would apply twice a day.
  
• Retinoids: I don't know where you live but in the US most retinoid products by popular brands like Olay have very low concentrations. I would recommend Curology for this.
  
• Vitamin C: I recommend a 20% serum applied in the morning every 1, 2, or 3 days. This product is more effective if you apply it right after washing your face (your face should be dry though) and wait as long as possible, up to 30 minutes. Timeless is a generally effective one. Toss it it turns dark orange.
  
• Other Products: Some people like alpha hydroxy acids for anti-aging purposes. You could try out Alpha Hydrox lotion; it's got 10% glycolic. Nip+Fab is often recommended but it's like 2% and didn't do shit for me.
  
• Cleansers: I don't use a cleanser in the morning but I would wash your face with a washcloth/your hands in the shower. All you did was sleep so it's not like your face is that dirty. I would recommend washing your face at night though, so it's clean and the following products can work more effectively. CeraVe Foaming and CeraVe Hydrating are plain, effective cleansers.
  
• Other Products: If you have a slightly larger than drugstore budget I would check out Paula's Choice products. They make lotions/AHA's/Vitamin C/everything I listed above and people seem to find their products effective.

It was a couple of years ago, I think it was a link on FutureDerm (before she had her own line).

http://www.amazon.com/20%25-Vitamin-Ferulic-Acid-Serum/dp/B0036BI56G/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1427331877&sr=8-6&keywords=ce+ferulic

I personally have found great success with Melano CC. (https://www.amazon.com/Rohto-Melano-Intensive-Anti-Spot-Essence/dp/B0188CAZKQ) It's drug store price.

Another one that is also quite good is the timeless c e ferulic, also at an affordable price. (https://www.amazon.com/Timeless-Skin-Care-20-Vitamin/dp/B0036BI56G)

Here you go! I’ve enjoyed it so far. I had some PIE from a facial injury that happened 14 months ago that left my skin slightly pink. It was hardly noticeable but of course I could always see it. Even after two days the PIE is less noticeable. I’m not sure if the Vit c is lightening these spots or maybe renewing the rest of my skin to match. Either way. I’m very happy!!!!

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0036BI56G?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf

i have been using this. i like this one. my vetting process for this item was reading a review of it from a a beauty blogger i trust. i have used the timeless for a couple of weeks now and the C20 (about half a bottle before it turned yellow on me!) the timeless is purported to be more stable; it should not oxidise and cease being useful as quickly as the C20. this is an advantage to me, because i use vit c on an "as needed" basis, generally fairly regularly at 2-3 times a week, but i like having the flexibility to pull back if my skin looks too sensitive to use the product, without feeling pressure to use it before it expires. the timeless does smell extremely foul, but if fades to nothing as the product absorbs, so i can tolerate that.

This one, which I think is the 20% LAA you're referring to.

I'm not a fan of the texture, and there's a huge amount of confusion after they changed formulas about whether it can look pale yellow without being oxidized, but my skin likes it. Admittedly, there are much better vitamin c products out there, but this one does a decent job and hurts my wallet the least. As much as I would love to spend $30 to $50 per ounce, it's just not feasible for me.

• Since it's your first time, i'd recommend a 0.5mm dermaroller. Anything lower than that would not be deep enough to stimulate collagen growth. Also, don't cheap out and get a low quality one.
  
  
• Well, you can but it's best that you just buy one size first, in case you find that microneedling isn't your thing. Some people can take up to 6 months or even a year to move from 0.5mm to 1mm. Your skin needs to get used to it first. One dermaroller can last you a couple of months btw. If the needles start looking dull and blunt, replace it with a new one or else you'll end up damaging your skin instead.
  
  
• A 0.5mm shouldn't hurt too much but anything higher than that would definitely hurt so in the future, once you move up to a longer needle size, you would probably need a numbing cream. Also, always wash your face first before you dermaroll!
  
  In terms of sanitizing the roller before and after, this is what I do. First, I clean it with water (you can also use soap if you like) then I put it in head first in a clean plastic cup and pour 70% Isopropyl Alcohol in the cup so it's just enough to cover the head (I prefer 70% because a higher alcohol content will make it evaporate faster and logic says it won't have enough time to sanitize!). Anyway, just let it sit in the cup for 10-15 minutes, take it out and then wait about 2 minutes or so. Once it's dry-ish, I run it under hot water and let it completely air dry before applying it to my skin.
  
  After you finish rolling, repeat the same procedure. Wash the roller, dunk it in alcohol for 10-15 minutes, run it under hot water, let air dry then put it somewhere clean (preferably in a box).
  
  
• It depends on the size. With a 0.5mm, you can use it once every 2-3 weeks. If you go higher, like 0.75mm or 1mm then you should use it sparingly like once every 4-6 weeks because it takes time for your skin to properly heal. Do not use it everyday.
  
  
• I noticed you said that you don't really have a routine? You should definitely have at least a moisturizer and a sunscreen (this is a given) before you start dermarolling. After you dermaroll, your skin will be a bit sensitive and tight and it will definitely feel like a bad sunburn so you should pamper it a bit. I find that sheet masks are also great to calm down the redness and irritation.
  
  The most important thing for me is using a Vitamin C serum. I use one with 20% L-ascorbic acid everyday (also right after I dermaroll) and it has significantly reduced some of my scars (it stings a little bit though). This is where sunscreen is important!!! Wearing sunscreen helps protect your skin (and scars) from getting darker. Those products you linked look great but you should definitely patch test them first to see if you have any bad reaction to them or not before you start microneedling.
  
  Here are some other Vitamin C serums which are well loved by many:
  
  http://www.amazon.com/NuFountain-L-Ascorbic-Hylaronic-Youthful-Complextion/dp/B0039LZW78
  
  http://www.amazon.com/20-Vitamin-Ferulic-Acid-Serum/dp/B0036BI56G
  
  Lastly, one important thing about microneedling is patience. You won't see improvements right away but you will if you keep on maintaining it. Hope that helps! :-)

Let me preface this by saying that I'm a guy, so I'm really in unfamiliar territory here. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

I started using minoxidil to stimulate facial hair growth, so I've wanted to start dermarolling as well to help with collagen production.

I've purchased a dermaroller and 70% alcohol, but I'm a bit lost on what moisturizing products I should use immediately after dermarolling.

My daily lotion right now is Lubriderm 3 in 1 but I imagine that's not something I want to use after dermarolling.

I've sort of browsed around on here and there's a lot of products and abbreviations that are lost on me, but it seems like vitamin C is a good option to use after dermarolling?

Something like CeraVe vitamin C Serum is something I've seen suggested. I've also seen others suggest Timeless vitamin C serum but I'm not quite sure what the differences are.

Do these seem like good options, or is there something better you'd suggest? I'll take any opinions/suggestions

you'll be surprised by how far it goes tbh. i use this one on my hands, face, and chest everyday and the bottle usually last 2-3 months. it's the 1 product i've seen fast, real results with. so i think it's a money well spent type of situation. and Timeless is well regarded on this sub.

i forgot, as a general moisturizer i use Olay Total Effects Body Lotion too. it's fragrant but really good & niacinamide is the third ingredient. i like it year round, it's not too heavy or light.

so my AM routine is basically Total Effects body wash followed by vit c, then the aha, then my sunscreen. for PM, the Neutrogena cream followed by the Total Effects lotion. some people might prefer the aha at night but i've had no issues. i hope this helps!

> I'm definitely fascinated by the Kikumasamune Sake High Moist Lotion and the Tosowoong ampuole, but also totally intimidated by r/asianbeautyexchange (baby steps).

Haha well the user I mentioned is super sweet and will walk you through the process should you decide to take the plunge, and I have a brand new bottle of the Kikumasamune I'd be happy to decant for you at any point. I also don't mind walking you through how the exchange works (it's pretty simple! c:) whenever you feel brave and adventurous.

Girl yes you will feel like the fanciest broad in town with that adorable Sulwhasoo ginseng trial bottle. I keep it on my nightstand instead of with my skincare basket just so I can look at it, haha.

> And yes, I have read most of Fifty Shades of Snail and have to be careful not to automatically buy whatever she likes at the time (which lately has been fancy Sulwhasoo stuff I can't afford so that's convenient).

This struggle is real. Thanks for having expensive tastes right now, u/Sharkus_Reincarnus. You're breaking hearts and saving wallets all at the same time. c;

Omg that's exactly how I feel about that Drunk Elephant serum. I love the packaging and the formulation seems nice, but I'm afraid to love it. This is one a lot of people love that I've been considering. Also, formulations with MAP (magnesium ascorbyl phosphate) instead of L-AA (l-ascorbic acid) tend to be more shelf stable and gentler on the skin. c:

hi!

I have considered it, but I just haven't made the purchase yet. I'm currently using quite a few products and I definitely think that I'm seeing results. It's really important to keep up a good routine

Right now, I use the mint julep mask once a week, and the REN micro polish cleanser every few days. Both of this help keep my skin incredibly smooth and refreshed looking.

For daily use, I apply aczone, sephora instant moisturizer and a bit of argan oil. I apply Elta MD sunscreen over that.

I have the same routine at night, with the aczone, moisturizer, and argan oil, but with no sunscreen and every other night I use a vitamin c + e serum, which was in my post, and which I LOVE.

The sunscreen and vitamin c serum, as well as the REN exfoliator, are all supposed to help with scarring, hyperpigmentation, etc. I'm breaking out way less, and my scars are definitely going away.

As for the other products I had listed here...

The tea tree oil broke me out terribly, it was awful. So I can't recommend that, but it seems to work well for most people!

I did buy the hyaluronic acid, but it was meh. It kept moisture in, but I always felt a little bit oily. You're supposed to add a drop or two of water to it when you apply, but for some reason, that mixture always made me break out. I used consistently for a while, but I haven't been using it for a few weeks now, and haven't noticed a difference without it.

I bought the dermaroller, but then I read on here that it can actually be terrible for your skin, as it can causes micro tears. That freaked me out, so I haven't really ever used it.

I also got the aztec healing clay! I really do like it, but I use the mint julep mask more because it's easier to use. The healing clay needs to be mixed with apple cider vinegar, and most of the time I'm too lazy to actually do that.

I would have to say that my favorite products so far are the vitamin c serum and the argan oil. Hope this helped!

Can someone help me get better products or maybe get a routine going that would be effective? I feel like I am not getting any progress.

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I have been trying to get rid of my razer bumps on my face for a while now. I managed to finally get them majorly down using Bump stopper, but now I have a lot of dark splotches on my face. I have been using these products to try and clear my skin up, but I am not noticing any changes:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N1QNHHA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0036BI56G/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002VA4LMU/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0721P16T8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N9ER4GO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Biore UV face milk SPF 50 pa++++

Nivea man face scrub

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Routine:

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I normally exfoliate using Nivea man face scrub every other day in the shower.

Morning:

Ponds

Biore UV face milk

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Night:

All products except exfoliating ones every now and then.

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Skin type:

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African American

Probably dry, I normally have dry hands

Pic of how it looks:

https://southerncosmeticlaser.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/shave-bumps-cosmetic-dermatologist-charleston.jpg

This is the one I got. It's not too much more than the OST one.

I've added this https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0036BI56G/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 vitamin C to my routine. I'm getting some more (small) acne in areas that I typically get (cheeks) - is this purging?

Overall, I do:
Morning: LRP lightening wash, Dr. Jart Cicapir, EltaMD suncreen
Evening: LRP Effaclar wash, vitamin C serum, alternating 0.05% treitonin (prescription) and clindoxyl gel

i shop on amazon; i don't know if you do or have it where you live, but in any case you can at least see how the product looks like: melano, timeless.

personally, i use the timeless. i have had it for a little over two months now, i store it in the fridge. it is unchanged since i bought it, still perfectly clear - something i cannot say for the ost20; within a month it had already started to yellow.

the timeless does smell horrible though. i usually rinse it off after 15 minutes.

Good for religiously using sun screen, if you are surfing. When I was younger, people didn't. We would use that Tropicana coconut oil instead of sunscreen. I didn't surf, but I used to bake myself in the water and at the beach. Now, I've had multiple basal cell carcinomas cut from me and I probably have more wrinkles than I should. I also used to look very young for my age, and it kills me now to know that I still could, except that I have more wrinkles!

You should be using zinc oxide based sunscreen on your face. It comes invisible now, although it is kind of cute to use the colors on the apples of your cheeks and nose, if you want. Please use a rashguard to protect your arms and chest from cancer!!

I've just recently started using argon oil on my face at night, and it has been the best thing I've done for my skin in a long, long time. I've also just started to use this in the morning: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0036BI56G/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Its on sale for $15 on [Amazon]
(https://www.amazon.com/Timeless-Skin-Vitamin-Ferulic-Serum/dp/B0036BI56G/ref=sr_1_3_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1525790692&sr=8-3&keywords=timeless%2Bvitamin%2Bc%2Bserum&th=1)

Hi there! As a start, I'd probably stop using Dr. Bronner's Soap. It's very alkaline with a pH of 8.9, too stripping for the skin. Skin is naturally a little acidic (4.6 - 6.0 pH), and clinical studies have shown that acne proliferates in an alkaline environment, plus continued use of an alkaline cleanser will actually make your skin increasingly more alkaline over time so it's best to use a cleanser with a slightly acidic pH (ideal is 5.5 pH).

Def search this subreddit for silicone-free to see what else you can find but here's a starter list of products (4 years old). A silicone free primer you could try is Too Faced Hangover.

The tamanu oil might be a little high in the oleic acid % (~40%) so it could be potentially comedogenic. Check this site for other acne-safe oils.

As for VitC, it is def quite confusing. VitC, in the LAA form, is quite temperamental. It's ascorbic acid already so it doesn't need to convert but its unstable, requires a low pH to work and needs a 15-20% concentration. It can also be irritating. It oxidizes quickly from water, light, air and heat so smart chemists developed derivative forms which while are more stable and tolerated, must convert to ascorbic acid (SAP, MAP, Tetrahexyldecyl Ascorbate (ATIP), etc.). There are limited studies on derivatives' efficacy (ability to penetrate, convert to ascorbic acid, etc). The latest derivative, ATIP, has shown to be well tolerated, shelf-stable and penetrate deeper and faster than LAA (7% concentration) so could be a winner for you. Here are some affordable options: LAA form: Timeless Skin Care 20% Vitamin C Plus E Ferulic Acid Serum ($15.50). It's formula is similar to the gold-standard, SkinCeuticals CE Ferulic ($166); SAP product: Mad Hippe VitC Serum; MAP product: The Ordinary Magnesium Ascorbyl Phosphate 10% ($10); ATIP: Ascorbyl Tetraisopalmitate Solution 20% in Vitamin F ($17.80). I can't speak to the nursing friendly aspect but I hope this helps as a starting point!

1. Vitamin C serum.
   
   The classic one is Skinceuticals CE Ferulic but there are cheaper versions around that give you nearly all the benefits that Skinceuticals has (Timeless Skin Care 20% Vitamin C Plus E Ferulic Acid Serum or Cosmetics Solutions CE Ferulic Combination Treatment are more affordable options). Other ingredients to look for is niacinamide, green tea, resveratrol, hyaluronic acid -- you need to make sure your skin is well hydrated and has ingredients that fight off free radical damage.
   
   https://www.amazon.com/Timeless-Skin-Vitamin-Ferulic-Serum/dp/B0036BI56G
   
   
2. Heliocare.
   
   There is also a supplement called Heliocare that has Polypodium leucotomos fern in it that has been shown to protect your skin from the free radical damage that you get from sun exposure (you still need to wear sunscreen though).
   
   https://www.amazon.com/Heliocare-Oral-Capsules-60-capsules/dp/B001E25USU
   
   
3. UV film on your car.
   
   It sounds like you spend a lot of time outdoors and I'm not sure how much of that is spent driving but just in case you do drive quite a bit, it might be worth getting UV film on the drivers side window and on the windshield. I got mine done at a local shop that does tinting for cars.

I try to keep mine simple while still doing what I can to prevent further damage. I didn't take care of my skin at all in my 20s so I'm undoing damage now, but the vitamin C serum and sunscreen combo have helped a ton. I have fairly sensitive skin, and it gets easily dehydrated as well.

Morning

• Wash with Clean and Clear Relaxing facewash. If my skin feels clean I skip this step.
  
  
• Spray Thayer's Rose Petal alcohol free toner. I love this toner, it minimizes the craters I have for pores a good bit.
  
  
• Cerave moisturizing lotion I also like Clinique Dramatically different moisturizing lotion but the Cerave works just as well and I get soooo much more for my money.
  
  
• Apply SolScents Clear Face sunscreen I can't find this one in stores and it's pricey so I've ordered a [biore] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00SM99KY8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) one from amazon to try out instead, a lot more affordable too.
  
  
  Evening
  
  
• Wash with Clean and Clear Relaxing facewash. It works just as well as the Clinique one for me.
  
  
• Spray the witch hazel toner again.
  
  
• Apply Vitamin C Serum.
  
  
• Followed by the Cerave moisturizing lotion again.
  
  Whenever my skin still gets dehydrated for whatever reason I apply Rosehip oil. Sometimes I do a chick pea flour + Turmeric mask which works great but is a bit drying so the oil helps a lot.

I am going to try this when my Ost 20 is gone.http://www.amazon.com/20%25-Vitamin-Ferulic-Acid-Serum/dp/B0036BI56G/ref=sr_1_1?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1448985084&sr=1-1&keywords=timeless+vitamin+c+serum

Sodium Ascorbyl Phosphate is the only form of Vitamin C that is proven against acne. The other types are great for the skin, but not specifically for acne. That is the only brand/product I know of that is SAP form, but I am sure there must be others. If you just want a basic Vitamin C serum, certainly people use lots of other cheaper ones. This is the cheapest one I have heard of. There's also this and this that I think people like. Search the subreddit for "Vitamin C serum" to learn more on bigger posts, I'm not really the person to ask.

L-ascorbic acid does, however, the serum has to either be at a pH of less than 3.5, or it must be in a waterless serum, like The Ordinary's.

I'm currently using this one. After cleansing, I apply 6 drops to my face, wait 15 mins, then follow with the rest of my routine. It lasts me about 4 months, which is about how long it takes for it to start oxidizing. I've also used NuFountain and Timeless in the past. I just never found them to give me the results that Paula's Choice has.

Also, it will take about 3 or so months for you to start seeing improvements. The same thing goes for starting a peptide serum.

> Timeless Vitamin C

I'm familiar with UVA/UVB sunlight though I don't have any kind of specific information regarding the level of protection my sunscreen currently provides. I will try to get the information from the manufactrer.

have you read the reviews @ Amazon for the Timeless Vitamin C serum? some say it's useless as it has a high pH level than they claim. might be another retailer selling on amazon? (https://www.amazon.com/Timeless-Skin-Vitamin-Ferulic-Serum/dp/B0036BI56G?th=1#customerReviews)

I will defentily read into all the ingridatines you mentioned. I've read about Niacinamide and its effects on hyperpigmentation, I hope I will benefit from it.

I've never used a moisturizing cream before, do you think I could benefit from it? I'm going to use a good sunscreen & Niacinamide\Vitamin C serum for start. I'm not going to look into retinoal or AHA before the winter. I'm currently after a delying product as some of the damage is currently undergoing (spots getting darker altough I void the sun almost completly).

Thanks!

The timeless one is good but can be a little drying depending on your skin type. I like TO Ascorbyl Tetraisopalmitate Solution 20% in Vitamin F a little goes a long way, the price is right, and it doesn't dry me out.

Is it this one from amazon

Replying to you again because I realize nothing was particular so I'll redo this for you.

General Daily CeraVe

Vit A serum that I'm using right now

CeraVe with Sunblock

Petroleum Jelly for face/lips

Amazon korean sheet mask

Aztec Clay

Hair product

Hair product 2


I also use a very high quality cotton cloth for my face got like 5 of them or something...totally didn't steal these from an expensive ass Miami hotel.


Edit: general everywhere moisturizer for post shower lightweight quick stuff

Same thing happened to me with OST C20. It was way too strong for me (since it stung literally every time I applied it to my face while I had an active breakout, which was almost all the time). I stopped using vitamin C altogether for about 5 months and then decided to get a non-AB bit C serum from Amazon. It's the Timeless vitamin C 20% serum and so far it hasn't stung or oxidized like the OST C20 serum; and I've had this in my bathroom cabinet for 2 months. Might be worth a try!

I bought OST C20 due to its high popularity here. I've also heard great things about timeless C serum which I've read is less prone to oxidizing.

Deciem has a range of products that aren't quite makeup, but sorta are: http://deciem.com/category/skincare/finishers (Find them on Facebook to ask them the differences if you're confused.)

Also grab a Vitamin C serum. I've been using Vitamin C daily now and my complexion is a lot brighter and even. I've had people ask if I'm wearing makeup. I hear really good things about Timeless though I use Indeed's C24. (Indeed also has a blurring product too.)

And of course, top everything off with sunscreen.

Thanks! Looks like it’s on amazon and is affordable, which is great. Is this the right one?

Vitamin C + hydroquinone (Ambi Cream or other) + AHA/BHA will all help a lot. So for your routine, it might look like this...

MORNING:

• cleanse with CeraVe cleanser (gets your skin to proper pH for vitamin C)
  
• apply vitamin C serum (I like the Timeless one)
  
• moisturize with CeraVe
  
• apply sunscreen
  
  EVENING:
  
  
• cleanse with CeraVe
  
• apply AHA or BHA
  
• apply hydroquinone
  
• moisturize with CeraVe
  
  Paula's Choice makes a AHA/hydroquinone combo product. Curology (tretinoin) has also helped me a lot. If you're not familiar with that let me know.

I found it here: http://www.amazon.com/20-Vitamin-Ferulic-Acid-Serum/dp/B0036BI56G?ie=UTF8&keywords=timeless%20vitamin%20c%20serum&qid=1465322473&ref_=sr_1_1_a_it&sr=8-1 but there are lots of places to get it I think. If you search this board people talk about it a lot, that's where I found out about it.

Yeah, this is the one that is suggested pretty often.

Cute with a tad of sexy.

But if you wanna know if there can be any improvments heres what I got. I can't tell if the shadows are doing this or not but the side of your face is a little darker. Buy a vitamin c serum, this is my favorite: https://www.amazon.com/Timeless-Skin-Vitamin-Ferulic-Serum/dp/B0036BI56G

It absorbs fast, not sticky, and I got results in a damn week. Usually people use this stuff for PIH aka acne discoloration or for anti aging, but it also smooths out the coloration of your face. Also, if you are self conscious about the slightly darker skin under your eyes, guess what this bomb ass vit c takes care of it as well. Keep it in the fridge and away from light, and it'll last maybe 3 months. If it stops smelling like nail polish and starts browning then it's starting to get bad. Stop using if it becomes golden and becomes too irritating because then its gone too bad. And you should use it anyway for anti aging. Use in mornings with sunscreen over it for photoprotection (and if you don't use sunscreen everyday on your face then you should because anti aging, I recommend Kiss My Face) AND use at nights before bed. vit c also helps prevent sun damage as well, so it works with sunscreen, AND it thickens your skin over time like retin-A.

And if you don't want to do that jazz, which I think is a mistake, then just chill anyway because you really do look cute in that pic.


EDIT: KISS MY FACE NOT MISS MY FACE