Reddit reviews TP-Link AV2000 Powerline Adapter - 2 Gigabit Ports, Ethernet Over Power, Plug&Play, Power Saving, 2x2 MIMO, Noise Filtering, Extra Power Socket for other Devices, Ideal for Gaming (TL-PA9020P KIT)

You could use Powerline ethernet to connect the AP to the network without any visible wires.

https://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-Powerline-Pass-Through-TL-PA9020P-KIT/dp/B01H74VKZU

power lines can indeed be used for data transmission and power delivery at the same time

Even 2 gig ones, which is the theoretical limit!

I'm a big fan. I bought these to connect two PCs that are right next to each other, but without a good way to run cables. (I built them without wifi since I thought cable run was easy, turns out there was a lot of crap in that wall)


https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01H74VKZU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


They are the newest and most expensive TP-link model, but I figured I would splurge on this set since this will be the one that 'pumps the juice into the system', so make if as powerful as possible. Future expansions will be cheaper models.


As for performance, it was a simple set up, literally hit a button, run to the other one, hit a button, never needed a reset since.


Ping is around 20 on speedtest and CS:GO matches, so Im having NO ping reduction, and speeds are nearly 100% of ISP.

drill tiny holes =! break walls
Ask a pro to do it for you, it's very clean looking.

Alt: if you really can't touch the walls, powerline adapter + KVM ethernet extender.

So, after a good hour and a half of research, I decided I really liked the ones you linked me for the price, but I gotta go all out on this. Especially since I may be moving out with a friend soon who will also be a heavy Internet user (Destiny, anime, Netflix streaming, etc).

Ended up going with this model and some surprisingly cheap CAT7 Ethernet cables in the hopes that they will be heavy duty and future proof. From what I've read, both the top-of-the-line adapters and the high-grade cables are super overkill for what I actually have as an Internet setup. But after 3 years of being mocked as the lagging guy in raids, I will do anything for an upgrade.

If these work, I thank you from the bottom of my heart. Thank you for opening my eyes to this solution!

So an update if anyone finds themselves here at some point. I bought a power line adapter, the one I linked below, and my ping went from 200 ms over the wireless range extender to 84 ms over the power line adapter. I decided to buy through amazon because of their return policy if it didn't work. Now I haven't pushed the data limits of this thing but I get pretty much all of the data throughput I should get (a whopping 25mb/s... take that fiber lol)

Now, why am I in this situation?
I'm living in an in law suite so I don't have the flexibility to drill holes through floors & walls to get cable from one side of the house to where I am. Also, I considered MoCa but there is literally only one coax cable in the main house living room. None where I live.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01H74VKZU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I don't think anyone's helped you on your internet question, so here's some help:

I was in the same boat and what I ended up doing was after a few hours of research, getting a powerline adapter, this one to be specific, as a powerline adapter doesn't cripple your speeds as much as regular wifi or a repeater/extender does.

Regarding how and why I chose the TP-Link AV2000, it had really good reviews and it's apparently the fastest option if you need a good, reliable connection/speeds. You could cheap out on this but expect the opposite result. As a competitive FPS gamer (csgo, h1z1, pubg, etc), any potential loss of connection can ruin your game, so if you do these things, it will help to get a better powerline adapter.

Keep in mind you'll need two ethernet cables (CAT-4-6 should work, depends on your internet speed (one that connects from one of these units into your modem, and another one from the other unit into your ethernet port on your computer)), two unused wall-plugs (highly recommended not to plug either unit into, eg: a power strip, because then there will be interference which can cause issues), and of course the powerline adapters.

Also be aware that the closer the distance between the two units, the better the connection/speed. So if you're upstairs and the router/modem is downstairs like what it is for me, connect the first unit as close upstairs as possible (of course with the extent of how far your cable is (I had a 30ft one)) and the other one as close to it and to your computer as possible.

AMA if you need any more help regarding the above (or even build help).

Powerline kit to get Ethernet out? https://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-Powerline-Pass-Through-TL-PA9020P-KIT/dp/B01H74VKZU

I rewired the phone jacks in my house (built 2003). They were all going to a central point in the garage and the builders used Cat 5e, so were easily converted from phone (2 pins) to data (8 pins).

I don't think cat5 was around in the 90's, but not totally sure. If the wiring isn't already there, then yeah it will be a project to wire it, but not impossible if you're comfortable fishing wire and crawling through attics.

Powerline adapters also work great in many homes, depending on the quality of your electrical work and are plug and play. I used to use these as WiFi extenders (before switching to Unifis), and beside rebooting them once a month or so they worked fantastic.

Example of powerline adapter: https://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-Powerline-Pass-Through-TL-PA9020P-KIT/dp/B01H74VKZU/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=powerline+network+adapter&qid=1571690335&s=electronics&sr=1-3

Edit: WiFi has come a long way in the past few years. Invest in a high quality WiFi setup and you may not care about having wired connections anymore.

I switched from wireless to the gigabit powerline Ethernet adaptor and it has worked great for me. I no longer get the"server not powerful enough" when direct playing 4k media.

This is the one I have
TP-Link AV2000 2-Ports Gigabit Powerline ethernet Adapter Kit, Power Outlet Pass-through, Powerline speeds up to 2000Mbps (TL-PA9020P KIT) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01H74VKZU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_YNrMBbDFG3RTF

I ended up going with this one ( https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01H74VKZU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_8QZ3Cb03PZJ9J )
I chose this because it had 2 Ethernet ports. Both yours and mine are almost identical when it comes to performance from what I’ve read. I have a similar arrangement to you where my pc is far away from the router so WiFi is not an option. Hoping this solves my problems!

I use tp-link power line adapters and they work really well for me but Im not sure how they would work in an apartment building. All you have to do is plug one into an outlet and your router then the other one plugs into the wall and wires to your xbox. They send the signal over the powerlines but the 2 outlets and power lines all have to be on the same circuit for it to connect. In an apartment your outlets may not all be on the same circuit like they would a house. You could definitely get some from walmart or amazon and return them if they dont work. They run about $50 for cheaper ones and 80-90 for better ones

Heres what I have
https://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-Powerline-Pass-Through-TL-PA9020P-KIT/dp/B01H74VKZU/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?keywords=powerline+adapter&qid=1568409038&sprefix=powerline&sr=8-5

This claims to be a gigabit.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01H74VKZU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_Ls0IDbV4JRHKV

I have a similar need and I tried using the wireless uplink feature and using a second UAP AC, but as noted in the other comments, the performance was not great.

I bought a Western Digital WD bridge from ebay for $35 and it works pretty well.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Western-Digital-WD-My-Net-AC-Bridge-4-Port-Gigabit-WiFi-Bridge-WDBMRD0000NBL/231070268555?epid=151851167&hash=item35ccdc7c8b:g:2AMAAOxyOlhSq59y

The throughput was about double what I was getting compared to a second UAP-AC-PRO and it only cost about $35. It is a little temperamental and needs to be rebooted occasionally.

I really wish there was a UBNT solution (AC bridge ) that didn't require going to their airmax products as the intermediate link.

Also as mentioned, the power line products have gotten much better. I just bought a couple of the AV2 power line adapters with mimo and get really good throughput on those. I had tried the previous generation and found them unusable. Something like:

https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Powerline-Pass-through-TL-PA9020P-KIT/dp/B01H74VKZU/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1517531244&sr=8-3&keywords=powerline+mimo

As far as internet goes, I ran into a similar problem with my build, and I bought the motherboard that was suggested to you in this thread that has built in Wi-Fi Unfortunately, that device's built in Wi-Fi isn't strong enough to go reach from the basement to the second story of a house. Additionally, I read several Amazon reviews saying that it couldn't get signal even on the same level through several walls.

Can you elaborate on your internet situation? Originally, I bought a wireless USB adapter for my PC, and it was pretty solid, but as far as gaming goes, I kept getting random ping spikes, resulting in characters skipping around. I'd definitely suggest a Powerline Adapter if you're significantly far away from your router. I bought this one, but there are definitely cheaper versions of it out there. I'd highly recommend it. It's as close as you can get to direct wiring to a router that's far away. Gaming has been smooth sailing for me ever since.

Well lets step out of the can or worms and give you some realistic advice now =)

Power Line adapters are not a bad idea. Just as Wireless is not a bad idea.. It is just not as good as hard run Ethernet..

https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Powerline-Pass-through-TL-PA9020P-KIT/dp/B01H74VKZU/

That is the best one you can get.. right now..

The trick to power line adapter is that it is hit or miss if they will work.. Some people get good speeds.. Other people crap speeds.. you should expect at best to get about half the rated speed..

So using the 500Mbps older version might give you an acceptable speed, but then again it might not..

The ONLY true way to figure out what will work is to GET them and try them.. If they do not work out make sure you get them from someplace like amazon so you can easily return them if they do not work out..

honestly I would not overly cheap out on the lower ones. They are based on older technology that is not as reliable..

The newer version of these are doing better and better.

Also keep in mind where you are plugging these things in..

So say you have a window AC unit in your room plugged into you wall outlet.. That might cause your speeds to tank due to interference.. same goes for anything else.. Microwaves / fridges / dryers / HAIR dryers lol yea I have had people that said their internet went real slow when the wife was blow drying their hair or using the Iron to iron cloths..

If you imagine how your house is wired.. all the little loops that go to each breaker and what each breaker controls - you will have an idea of what types of things might cause you not to get close to the rated speed of the PA you are using..

With a hard wired Modem/Router I once had an issue with my father that when a halogen desk lamp was turned on at night the internet would completely drop. Yes that was fun to figure out..

The story is a funny one...

So the best thing you can do it TRY it out and see how it works for you..

If you've got a PCI slot on your mobo free you can get a wireless card to put in there for sure. Like this.
You could also get an Ethernet Over Power kit like this. You'd plug one into an outlet near your router, and run an ethernet cable from the router to it. Then plug the second one in near your PC, and connect to it with your ethernet cable. Voila. I've never used them, but I have a friend who uses one with great success.

It does not matter, the AV500 will get no where near the speed where it would matter.

Mixing cat5 and cat6 will be fine. I recommend returning the TP-Link AV500 and getting the AV2000. I have both and the AV2000 kicks the crap out of the AV500.

https://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-Powerline-Pass-through-TL-PA9020P-KIT/dp/B01H74VKZU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1472698617&sr=8-1&keywords=av2000

There was a coupon last week for $20 (over now) but it may go on sale again. They are planing a wifi enabled version by the end of the year/ early next year.

Hey so sorry I never replied but I finally got it up and running.

Speedtest by Ookla:

Ping: 17 (ms)

Download: 45.36 (Mbps)

Upload: 11.06 (Mbps)

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Done using these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01H74VKZU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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Overall I'm really satisfied with them.

The powerline adapter may be the easiest and cheapest way to test. And if they don't work, just return them. I've used the powerline adapters plenty of times for gaming, but I havent tried 4k over them. Plus everything you are doing is local. The PC upstairs is doing all the work. https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Powerline-Pass-through-TL-PA9020P-KIT/dp/B01H74VKZU

Get a set of PowerLine adapters. They use your house's existing electrical system to create a wired connection. All of the machines in our house are connected over PowerLine and the connection screams.

>Does anyone have any recommendations as to powerline adapters they use?

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As long as you buy a reputable brand, you'll be fine. Powerline is not rocket science, and most of them do the same thing and a good job to boot. Usually the price difference comes from added gimmicks such as two ethernet ports which was important for me (PS4+Xbox) or built in wi-fi extension. I use a TP Link and I would recommend the brand.

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I think I have those: https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Powerline-Pass-Through-TL-PA9020P-KIT/dp/B01H74VKZU/ . They have only lost connected 2-3 times in a few years and I get my full speed through the powerline. I pay for 100 Mbps and all of it comes through.

I didnt want to splurge on the mesh wifi yet either. I ended up going with a Ethernet over Powerline solution.

https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Powerline-Pass-through-TL-PA9020P-KIT/dp/B01H74VKZU

This thing is able to handle about 350-400MBits/sec in my experience. This is going between circuits too. Now, i did get a cheapo pair of no-name ones from newegg ($18 i think) to test as a proof of concept. They worked, but only pulled 20MBits.

I have 2 AT&T wireless TV boxes running through this as well as my R7000 Wifi Router (in AP mode) to provide normal wifi.

I moved my TiVo network over to powerline

https://smile.amazon.com/TP-Link-Powerline-Pass-through-TL-PA9020P-KIT/dp/B01H74VKZU

Use one for each TiVo device and one by your router.

Does anyone here have experience with powerline adapters? Is it worth spending the extra money to get an expensive one or do the cheaper ones work just as well?

https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Powerline-Pass-through-TL-PA9020P-KIT/dp/B01H74VKZU/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1503272087&sr=1-4&keywords=powerline+adapter

I just picked these up for going from my router to an upstairs bedroom for my HDHomerun CONNECT and PS4
https://smile.amazon.com/TP-Link-Pass-through-1200Mbps-TL-PA8030P-KIT/dp/B01H74VKZU/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1501612968&sr=8-4&keywords=ethernet%2Bover%2Bpower&th=1
No issues so far

I got this one: https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Powerline-Pass-through-TL-PA9020P-KIT/dp/B01H74VKZU/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1503088413&sr=8-3&keywords=av2000

If it does not work out you can always return it, if you get it let me know how it goes.

Would this work? It would pick up the wifi signal with this and with an Ethernet cable plugged from my computer into this I should essentially have internet right?

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Edit: Or something like this?

Which powerline do you have? Do you think this cheap one would cut it, or would I need a better one like this more expensive one

You can also use powerline adapters like

https://smile.amazon.com/TP-Link-Powerline-Pass-Through-TL-PA9020P-KIT/dp/B01H74VKZU/ref=sr_1_4?crid=3DJ1NDKYI6S93&keywords=powerline+ethernet+adapter&qid=1555650470&s=gateway&sprefix=powerline%2Caps%2C194&sr=8-4

Most of the bandwidth is taken up by the PLEX VM, transferring files from the seedbox to local storage, and some light web browsing. Other than that there isn't much network usage for this machine.

Do you have a recommended adapter? I found these that looked pretty decent:

TP-Link AV2000

Extollo Ethernet Powerline LANSocket 1500

NETGEAR PowerLINE PL1200-100PAS

TRENDnet TPL-420E2K

*edit: formatting

TP-Link Powerline Adapter AV2000 Mbps - Gigabit Port, Ethernet Over Power, Plug&Play, Power Saving, MU-MIMO, Noise Filtering(TL-PA9020P KIT) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01H74VKZU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_6TwDCbR0E0ZYJ



There are less expensive models just first one I found to show you what you need. Never use WiFi again my man, these work works and basically turn your power outlets into Ethernet access.

The brand does not really matter, I'm using these for my nieces desktop and ps4.

She plays league of legends and overwatch as well as some Korean MMO's, She has no latency/bandwidth problems.

The PS4s wireless is absloute trash, The power line adapters are the way to go if you don't want to run cables.

Do not mix match brand and model. Even though hpav2 should be compatible, on paper. The reality is that Broadcom based product such as Tplink av2000 will not work with Qualcomm based on such as Netgear [pl1200]
(https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-PowerLINE-1200-Gigabit-PL1200-100PAS/dp/B00S6DBGJM).

Better be safe than sorry, pick the same model/brand.

I have a detached garage far from the house and use a TP-link (https://smile.amazon.com/TP-Link-Powerline-Pass-Through-TL-PA9020P-KIT/dp/B01H74VKZU/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?keywords=powerlink+internet&qid=1556865076&s=gateway&sr=8-1-fkmr0). Plug into outlet. Plug in line from modem. Plug other unit into the garage. Plug wifi into that. As long as it is the same wiring in the garage as the main house, this should work. Works great for me. Much more effective than wifi extenders.

r7800 / xr500 for good wifi in general https://www.amazon.ca/Netgear-Nighthawk-Router-Wireless-Ethernet/dp/B07F8N2VHD

> mainly want something that will be able to stream 4k to my tv

forget wifi and get a powerline ethernet adapter for that

https://www.amazon.ca/TP-Link-Powerline-Pass-through-TL-PA9020P-KIT/dp/B01H74VKZU

https://www.amazon.ca/Netgear-Powerline-Adapter-Ethernet-Passthrough/dp/B0778Y6K6N

https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Powerline-Pass-Through-TL-PA9020P-KIT/dp/B01H74VKZU/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1550105268&sr=8-5&keywords=powerline+ethernet+adapter

http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/lanwan/lanwan-reviews/32857-actiontec-ecb6200-bonded-moca-2-0-network-adapter-reviewed

Moca 2.0 adapters are the closest thing you could get to GB bandwidth without Cat cables.

Alternatively, I would recommend these.
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01H74VKZU/ref=asc_df_B01H74VKZU4509123/?tag=shopbotca-20&creative=395285&creativeASIN=B01H74VKZU&linkCode=df0
the TP-link -PA9020P

Just make sure they're on the same circuit and not going through any power junction boxes like the main junction or anything like that.

It's super easy. I never did it before either, and I'm a female who has zero experience with house repairs. I can build a computer but don't know a damn thing about house repairs like electricity, plumbing, or anything like that. Basically, my dad just used his drill, drilled a small hole and went into the basement and we snaked the ethernet cord up through to my room.

If you want to get a new router, I would recomend getting a Linksys WRT AC1200 Dual-Band and Wi-Fi Wireless Router with Gigabit and USB 3.0 Ports and eSATA. I have the model that's slightly higher, the Linksys WRT1900ACS Dual-Band Smart Wi-Fi Gigabit Router, but I don't think you would need to spend that much unless you wanted to.

Or you could get a powerline adapter or wireless range extender. You could get the TP-LINK AV500 AC750 Wi-Fi Range Extender, Powerline Edition (TL-WPA4530 KIT) which has both and currently has a $10 off coupon. Obviously, ethernet is always better than wireless if possible. Make sure what you get can handle the speed of your modem/router. You can do a speed test with any of these websites (I typically check a few different websites and then average the speed): Ookla Speed Test, CNET Speed Test, Source Forge Speed Test, Bandwith Place Speed Test, SpeedTest.Org, e-Speed Test, SpeedOf.Me Speed Test, Speak Easy Speed Test, Verizon Speed Test, Charter Speed Test.

Remember, if you make any purchase with Amazon, always use Amazon Smile which donates a portion of your purchase to a charity of your choice. So instead of going to http://www.amazon.com, always go to http://smile.amazon.com and help someone out.

TP-Link Powerline Adapter AV2000 Mbps - Gigabit Port, Ethernet Over Power, Plug&Play, Power Saving, MU-MIMO, Noise Filtering(TL-PA9020P KIT) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01H74VKZU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_O5AADbP6JH6VF

I would consider trying these adapters they use the power lines jn the house to transfer the data.

TP-Link Powerline Adapter AV2000 Mbps - Gigabit Port, Ethernet Over Power, Plug&Play, Power Saving, MU-MIMO, Noise Filtering(TL-PA9020P KIT) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01H74VKZU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_GyprDbD88P9KT

This.

TP-Link Powerline Adapter AV2000 Mbps - Gigabit Port, Ethernet Over Power, Plug&Play, Power Saving, MU-MIMO, Noise Filtering(TL-PA9020P KIT) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01H74VKZU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_v30vDb5QPB7MQ

Best and easiest way to jump from one side of the house to the other. Was easy to set up and works awesome. Wired speedtest from the modem is almost exactly the same DL speeds as the TP-link. About 120 feet from the modem to the room it is used in.

Invest in a powerline adapter. It’s better than violating safety codes.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01H74VKZU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_EkGkDbH4AZRA4