Reddit reviews Ubiquiti NanoStation loco M5

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I've had great success using a pair of these. They were actually pretty easy to set up, and once set up, they haven't given me a single problem.

Is there power in more than one location on the campground?

Could you use a set of Ubiquiti Nanostation M5 unit's for backhaul to a second site, then use Unifi Outdoor units for client access?

http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-US-FCC-NSLOCOM5-NanoStation-loco/dp/B004EHSV4W

http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-UniFI-Outdoor-Access-802-11b/dp/B0066DV06I

The Unifi will blow the doors off any netgear, so you might try it regardless. It has a software controlled notch filter that gives it unparalleled sensitivity to incoming signals, plus a low distortion, reasonably high powered output.

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wow 50 bucks huh? not sure if your going to get anything reliable at that price. if you need 5ghz only you could always get one of these and mount it to a rafter facing down. at 65 bucks its a little over your budget.

one of these though is a lot more suited to home wifi. you can turn the 2.4ghz channel off if you really dont want it too. yes its a hundred bucks but you would be hard pressed to find another solution that would work as well in this price range.

I just did "line of sight" at ground level through trees at 1.5km 80mbit link using ubiquti m5's.

http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Nanostation-LOCO-Outdoor-802-11n/dp/B004EHSV4W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1369620726&sr=8-1&keywords=ubiquiti+m5
2 of them....


I used quotes as I could not see either end...I was across water through trees in rain.

Ditch the yagi and get two Ubiquiti Nano stations and setup a wireless bridge. You can easily setup a reliable bridge at 300ft since you'd have dedicated hardware for the intended purpose you're seeking. A yagi would be too finicky and unpredictable plus you'd still have to upgrade the antenna at the other site.

Ubiquiti NanoStation loco M5 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004EHSV4W/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_9VgAub0R5V15Y

Is the distance between the two positions free of obstructions?

If so a pair of UBNT LocoM5s would probably do. If you are uncertain there is a link simulator that you can use to plan things out.

If not something like this may work. After that its a matter of buying component antennas (Yagi or Parabolic dish) and hooking it up to whatever wifi you have at hand.

You don't need to spend that much. There are consumer/small business solutions out there for less than $200.

I'm about to upgrade my wireless Ethernet bridge for about $140 by picking up a pair of these

I would not recommend running "a line over to a neighbors" assuming you mean a copper line. It's just a magnet for lightning. Get yourself a pair of these Also If you're not planning to have separate vlans on the neighbors side you don't really need a managed switch. Assuming said neighbor isn't in IT or able to setup his own vlans I'd just have them get any generic commercial router and use that. All you need to do is get their nanostation on its own vlan and give it internet access.

Use these!! I have used them at work and they're dope! Very stable as well.

I'd go with Nanostation Loco5m radios. They're about $60 a piece, you have to worry very little about interference, I'm going through some trees with mine at about 600' with the radios turned down as low as they'll go and my link varies from 120 - 280Mb/s.

Create a point to point outdoor setup it should be cheaper then trenching a cat6 line.

http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Nanostation-LOCO-Outdoor-802-11n/dp/B004EHSV4W/ref=pd_cp_pc_1

nanostation loco m5

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004EHSV4W/ref=psdc_1194486_t1_B00HXT8KJ4

connect to your machine, point it at the router. configure wifi, all done.

Consider using a wireless media bridge.

I've taken a bunch of refurbed AC68Us for $40 and set them up as media bridges using Merlin Firmware. Works well enough if not a dash finicky. The non-refurbed AC66u could probably also work pretty darn well with WAY less hassle.

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Another consideration - point to point wireless bridge.

https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Networks-LOCOM5-NanoStation-loco/dp/B004EHSV4W

A pair of these can make magic happen even through a few walls. Not nearly as good for going through concrete (no form of wifi is). These units are FOCUSED unlike omnidirectional wifi units. They need alignment.


One thing to keep in mind with these devices - POSITIONING matters. The more direct your connection the better.

That is the right idea, but I don't know anything about the quality of that specific product in the video.

Ubiquiti gear is well known to be good quality for the price. The Loco M5 units would likely do fine for your use case. You need two: https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-0000070700985-NanoStation-loco-M5/dp/B004EHSV4W/

The loco M2 is a bit cheaper, but it might not do as well in an urban area like you are in.

Neither.

https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Networks-0000070700985-NanoStation-loco/dp/B004EHSV4W

A pair of 5GHz wireless bridges will cost you under $150 and give you 100mb/s as long as they have line of sight and are setup right. I beginner could do this in 30 minutes if they already have a place to mount each.

Skip the cable run?

Ubiquiti NanoStation loco M5 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004EHSV4W/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_.HunDbQ85GERD

The network via the antennae looks like this:


mode -- router -- antenna -- antenna -- switch or router -- your PC.

There are cheaper versions of what DaNPrS linked, for example the NanoStation Loco M5.

Check out this video

If this looks complicated, then run the cable, just put it into a PVC pipe or something like it so it doesn't get snagged or cut.

Exactly. I'd greatly recommend that the "boxes" connected "by radio" are 5GHz like these. These won't double as hotspot so you should get either a router to have a separate network (I'd recommend a buffalo as they come with DD-WRT preinstalled or easily installable) or a DIR-615 which keep revising hardware and usually takes a while to have a compatible DD-WRT. If you don't want any hotspot-specific features you can get a simple AP or any router.

No. You suggested a unidirectional antenna. That's completely different from what I suggested.

I suggested a pair of something like these: https://smile.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Netwoks-0000070700985-NanoStation-loco/dp/B004EHSV4W/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1518383103&sr=8-3&keywords=ubiquiti+wireless+bridge

They are powered point to point wireless bridge devices. Designed specifically for this purpose.

The Loco M5 (5GHz) is usually more expensive than the Loco M2 (2.4GHz)

Loco M2:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B004EGI3CI/ref=sr_1_1_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1382537887&sr=8-1&keywords=ubiquiti+nanostation+loco+m2&condition=new

Loco M5:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B004EHSV4W/ref=sr_1_1_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1382537964&sr=8-1&keywords=ubiquiti+nanostation+loco+m5&condition=new

You would need one for each end to get the best results, so buy two of the same radio obviously. Also, you would not be replacing anything with these units, unless you already have some kind of rigged long-range wifi going on already. These units would not work very well as APs for laptops and such. Strictly directional links.

I've actually got the radio at the Gym set up as an AP, and the radio on my roof set for Station (client like a laptop). That way I can install two more radios, on my next door neighbor's houses and get them on the same network. One is my landlord and the other is just a neighbor. Saves everyone a bunch of money. Landlord pretty much HAS to have internet at the gym and shes also paying for internet at her house currently. Ill be hooking up her house next week hopefully.

Ubiquiti Nanobeam - $99

You would need two of these, one at each end, wired into your PC and your router. They will give you probably 300 Mbps and very low latency, but it's a $200 setup.

Ubiquiti Nanostation - $59

These ones are a better fit for your situation, I think. You'd still need two of them for optimal performance.

Third option would be to get a single Nanostation and connect it to your PC via a wire and use that as a "wifi adapter" connected to your router. This might give you much better performance since the radio in it will be way better than usual wifi cards.

But if you have no other choice than wifi, if the signal is strong enough, a good adapter will be better than a shitty one, just maybe not go as overkill as the one you linked before.

Powerline adapters work fantastic.

I needed to run a wap on the other side of our house through a "slave" panel in the basement up through the original house's main panel so my sister's iPad would work upstairs. The combination of a powerline (http://www.amazon.com/TRENDnet-Compact-Powerline-Ethernet-TPL-306E2K/dp/B002TU59FA) to bridge layer 2 ethernet to this (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833704048) has been flawless...as in 0 downtime since late April.

Then I reread your post and see you are switching to 240v...so you don't have a regular 120v line in the garage at all? My amateur weak understanding of A/C household wiring would lead me to think you would need to use one of the hot wires to get a 120v line to plug the powerline into it...however, if you are running power tools and high current stuff that surges, you might cause damage to the powerline and other sensitive equipment being on the end of a longer cable run on a single circuit.

Wifi is killed by walls. It works best with line of sight. Maybe mount something outside...you can do point to point with a pair of these (http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Nanostation-LOCO-Outdoor-802-11n/dp/B004EHSV4W) if you are serious, desperate, looking for an interesting project and have money/time to burn".

Yes, that helps greatly.

First, being unable to acquire additional IPv4 address is unfortunate. The additional address would have greatly simplified the overall headache involved and allowed each residence to essentially have their own standalone internet connection with whatever portion of the fibre bandwidth you allocated to them. Without them you can still do it, you're just looking at NATing your single IP to all the devices which complicates things such as port forwarding, introduces the possibility of dual-NAT configurations, and increases the likely hood of that shared IP being abused and potentially blacklisted on a service because of the actions of one user affecting the rest of the users.

I would suggest a pfSense (or OPNsense) gateway hooked up to your modem or ONT, this will handle the NAT, VLANs, DHCP and traffic shaping. If you don't buy or build a pfSense box with at least 8 ports, hook this up to a managed switch. One line run from this to each of the wire-able units on your attached building plus one to the roof for a wireless AP.

Because the distance across the road is short and looks to be mostly clear LOS with sparse trees - you can approach the wireless AP a couple of ways. If you plan on only offering a 100Mbit/s or so to each "customer", you could get away with 3 Ubiquiti AirMax NanoStation Loco M5 units. One on your roof to act as the AP and broadcast the signal across the road and 2 on the other building across the road for each unit. Just easier to put up a receiving station at each unit that wants to join vs sharing a single one - I can get into the reasons why if you'd like.

If you're planning on providing more than a 100Mbit/s to each person than you can consider the same setup but substitue for the newer Ubiquiti NanoBeam AC units for a slightly increased cost.

It is also possible to do this all under the Unifi umbrella if you so choose. It is slightly more costly but is definitely more user-friendly and easier to manage under one interface. Here I would suggest you replace the broadcast AP with a Ubiquiti Unifi UAP-AC-M-Pro and each receiving station with a Ubiquiti Unifi UAP-AC-M. Note these are omni-directional antennas now, they lose the benefits that come from directional APs but at the distances we are looking at here that should be a negligible difference.

A real rough hierarchy layout here: https://i.imgur.com/QV0qfq6.png

Each individual unit is isolated from each other and you by being on their own VLAN, to which you will configure only gateway access on each VLAN with no cross VLAN routes.

When it comes to what is happening on each units internal network, you can do one of a few things. You could still allow them to use any ol' router they choose, hook up to the WAN port on said router and NAT their own internal network. This will work fine, albeit behind double NAT, it will take a good portion of the internal routing load off your pfSense box and only involve it when the client needs to get out to the net. Or you could handle all the internal routing and just have them use a switch and AP (if they want wifi in their unit) - you could get real fancy with this way but it adds a lot more potential for trouble on your part, the other option is likely the easier one.

Lastly, regarding authentication, you could take it one step further and utilize the PPPoE server on pfSense to give each unit their own PPPoE username and password they need to use to authenticate against your router. No username and password = no IP = no internet. Useful for revoking access to one user who doesn't pay their portion without having to physically go over and unplug them.

Sorry for the wall of text. These kind of setups are fun and I've dealt with a lot of similar setups for different applications.

Beware of electrical storms if you are running copper outdoors (this may not be an issue in your area, you live there, you decide). This will inevitably get a reply of "well it worked for me fine for xxx years". Yes, of course it works. A nearby lightning strike, possibly miles away, can induce a current in the buried or aerial wire and fry the equipment hooked to it.

Best practice is fiber for outdoor runs, which may be prohibitively expensive and requires more technical skill.

You may find it easier to have a wireless point to point link if you are already set of buying wiring and trenching, something like this:

http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-US-FCC-NSLOCOM5-NanoStation-loco/dp/B004EHSV4W/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1419282985&sr=8-11&keywords=point+to+point+wireless

Basically you'd buy two, mount them on the outside of the buildings, point them at each other (or in their general direction), and cable into a network at each end. Thus a wireless "bridge".

This can be done with a WRT54G or anything running DD-WRT but if you are spending money anyways this is a solution with a lower labor cost.

Would recommend you get a 5GHZ system, especially if you are in a populated area. 2.4GHZ is crowded.

I'm needing it to go from this building-to-the back of the warehouse. Running wire out to the warehouse would require them to break up the cement they poured over the trench they used to run power out there, which they aren't trying to do. I found this Ubiquiti NanoStation loco M5 on Amazon. Do you guys think that would suffice?

Ubiquiti nanostation

http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-LOCOM5-NanoStation-loco-M5/dp/B004EHSV4W/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1458156927&sr=1-2&keywords=ubiquiti+nano

How to configure:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZxJPBukjbY

From my experience, and anyone in the industry, don't use an "extender". They just add tons of issues to the system. Get a bridge. How's the 5Ghz signal? Get something on that frequency if possible, less noise and more speed generally.

I'm a huge whore for anything Ubiquiti, so get something they make. They have the picostation (2.4Ghz), and Multiple Nanostation(loco M2 and M5, as well as the big ones) options. They'll be the best you can get outside of an actual cable.

https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-0000070700985-NanoStation-loco-M5/dp/B004EHSV4W/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1483284382&sr=8-2&keywords=ubiquiti+M5

you dont want to do it that way...

first you want to use directional outdoor antennas. this will keep the signal stronger in the direction you want to create a bridge to. but this will be terrible for indoor use.

second you want to use matched pairs for best performance. the reason is that they protocols they use and the alignment of the antennas can be matched to each other.

third, you want it to be its own wireless link that cant be bogged down by other users.

here's what i would do. take the AP out of the window and just use it for client access that first building.

get a pair of outdoor wireless APs to use as a bridge and put them in each window (example: http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-US-FCC-NSLOCOM5-NanoStation-loco/dp/B004EHSV4W/)

configure those two on their own wireless SSID and channel and in building two then run a cable from one to an indoor access point.

I planned do you what you are doing, but my friend bought a new house too far away, and I never used the equipment. I have 2 of these I could give you a good deal on.

Ubiquiti NanoStation loco M5 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004EHSV4W/

If you want something else, I definitely recommend using the 5GHz range as 2.4GHz has lots of interference because of its popularity.

I don't know how the M5's work.

Is this http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Nanostation-LOCO-Outdoor-802-11n/dp/B004EHSV4W

"1. Physically connect computer to NanoStation device. 2. Configure host computer system to a static IP on the 192.168.1.x subnet. (so pick anything from .2-.254 but not .20). 3. use web browser to open 192.168.1.20 (default IP). 4. User/Pass are both "ubnt"."?

So you'll need a spare NIC on pfSense, and connect it to the M5 (if you don't have these, you'll need VLANs and a VLAN-capable switch), and once the bridge is there it just behaves like a patch cable.

I would setup a wireless bridge from the house with internet to the house without. In the house without, setup an Access Point.

Hardware;

A pair of these Ubiquiti NanoStation's


An Ubiquity AC Lite Access Point

Make sure your WiFi bridge is using a far away channel from both house's WiFi Access Points/Router...

Good luck!

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