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3 Gigabit Ethernet ports, CLI management for advanced users1 million packets per second for 64-byte packets3 Gbps total line rate for packets 512 bytes or largerIntegrated and managed with UniFi Controller v4.xSecure off-site management and monitoring, Silent, fanless operation
If you want your stuff to last a long time and be more reliable, get dedicated devices rather than combined ones. A "wireless router" is actually three devices combined into one: router, switch, and access point. The router separates your network from the internet, moves data between them, allows multiple devices to share your single public IP address, blocks unwanted internet traffic from reaching your network, and assigns local IP addresses to devices on your network. The access point does Wi-Fi. The switch connects these together and gives you the multiple LAN Ethernet ports on the back.
These three devices are also available separately. For example, this is a router, this is a switch, and this is an access point. You'd connect the router's WAN port to the modem and the LAN port to the switch, then connect access points and other wired devices to the switch. This has several advantages:
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Not OP, but we've deployed Ubiquiti products in a few of our enterprise customers and it is running great. I am not sure how much you already know about networking, but I'll explain for anyone else reading.
First, some background to fully understand what it is you are trying to do. The thing that most consumers call "routers" are really three things: a router, a switch, and an access point. TLDR the router portion is the thing that actually moves traffic between machines, the switch extends how many physical ethernet ports you have, and the access point gives you wifi.
The Ubiquiti Access Points (UAP) are just access points. You will still need a router to route traffic, and your consumer one will work just fine for most people. If you are looking to get something more SOHO, Ubiquiti also makes their own router/firewall (check out USG, or ideally EdgeRouter). For all intents and purposes, it is a pretty good idea to separate the roles of your network (physical appliances for the router, firewall, wireless, etc...), and you can have as many UAP's as you'd like for wireless. The UAP's run off of Ubiquiti's 24V Power-over-Ethernet (POE), which can be provided via a POE injector or with a Ubiquiti Switch (either Unifi or EdgeMax). So for a basic network, you'll disable the wireless functionality on your consumer router, and plug a UAP into a port (obviously you'll need to pass it through the POE injector first). Rinse and repeat for however many UAP's you want, maybe another one on the other side of the house for example.
The UAP is pretty useless on its own, though. It needs a piece of software called the Unifi Controller. The software is free, and you can run it on Windows, Linux, or with Ubiquiti's appliance called the Cloud Key. Within Unifi Controller, you'll setup the UAP's; e.g. setting the visible wifi name (SSID), security, channels, etc... It isn't too complicated, the interface is really intutive and anyone who is even slightly technical could figure it out. The controller also serves another really important feature, which is zero-handoff. As long as the controller is running, your device will connect to the access point with the best signal. This is the seamless switching you asked about.
Ubiquiti also is focused on mesh networking, although we are generally pretty against that for businesses for reliability reasons. Of course, the exception to that is Cisco Meraki, which is a hybrid that will self-heal. If you lie and say you are an IT professional, you can get a free Meraki with a 3 year license. Just make sure that you follow the rules.
As a note, I would stick to the UAP AC's. They are the newer version and run great. For consumers, the UAP-AC-LITE is going to work fine. Obviously there is more to networking and wireless solutions than what I went over here, but this is the general gist of it.
If you want a affordable gigabit setup with Ubiquiti just run this setup.
If you don't have a gigabit connection you can swap out the USG for an ER-X which will knock off $50 but if you have the $50 to spend I would suggest staying with the USG so all your managed products are on the Unifi admin interface. You can also save some money by going with 500' of cat 5e if you don't need the full 1k foot spool.
A $105 Ubiquiti gateway can tell SSL and VPN traffic apart.
I though about getting this router along with a wireless access point as it was recommended to me by someone in r/homenetworking.
I have 400/10 internet (for some reason that is the best upload I can get in my area). I run a plex server, data server, the occasional game server, ADS-B receiver, PiHole, and the typical wireless devices. Is this edge router a decent enough router?
No, I hear you. I'm in the same market.
But as far as price, the USG is $50-60 cheaper.
USG - $130 - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LV8YZLK/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_dp_U_x_9CoODbG2CR6EX
Netgate SG-1100 - $190 - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MTMPXKG/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_dp_U_x_RCoODb795M9D3
You could do 3 sets of these to throw data around the park, for 6 units total. 3 would be mounted on your main building:
Then 4 of these, 1 in the main building, 3 in the corners of the park:
If you still have dead spots to fill in, you would add in more Unifi Mesh AP's, and use the wireless uplink mode. If you do that I'd suggest swapping in a Mesh Pro to improve capacity for that cell.
The idea is to avoid using the Unifi wireless uplink mode as it cuts down the capacity of that cell. Uplinking multiple times really hurts a lot, especially with many hungry clients. Start with a solid foundation, and stretch out the installation only where necessary.
I'd top it all off with a USG and a cheap 8 port switch
You'll also want a cloudkey to manage the Unifi computers, or consider loading the controller software on a PC. And don't forget to buy 6 gigabit 24v PoE injectors for the nanostations, or 3 of these and a 4 port 24v gigabit midspan injector:
Unless you have specific reasons to keep the networks separate, and considering that this problem might come up again in the future: you might consider bonding the two internet connections together and making the combined connection available to a single local network. You would first need a gateway capable of load balancing or WAN bonding. One such gateway would be the Ubiquiti USG which is both highly-rated and very inexpensive (about $100). This device sits at the perimeter of your network, acts as your security firewall and can accept up to two WAN (outbound internet) connections. Unlike other professional solutions, this one requires no annual contract or ongoing license fees. This remarkably inexpensive device can optionally be combined with Ubiquiti's other solutions such as their VOIP phone system, wireless antennas, security cameras, and Cloud Key, to provide a unified high-performance professional solution for your business.
As suggested by /u/vigilias, your question suggests an underlying problem with the network that, if possible, might be better corrected by making changes to your network rather than resorting to a work-around. The networking subreddit would be a good resource if you choose to tackle this one on your own. Alternatively, you might consider hiring a local IT consultant to advise you on implementing a solution like the Ubiquiti USG.
Also note that some workgroup laser printers, such as HP LaserJet 42xx/43xx series, have multiple expansion card slots which can accept additional network cards. By adding additional inexpensive cards, it is therefore possible for some LaserJet printers to be available on multiple networks simultaneously.
Get this and this and you'll never have a problem ever again
Ubiquiti access point(s) and their "Cloud Key" controller for management/captive portal springs to mind.
Optionally, depending on how point-and-click you want the management for this deployment to be, also their "USG" router, and a US-8-60W PoE switch to complete the UniFi hardware set.
Amusingly, on amazon.de (used as an example to get EU pricing), those four items together come to €499.34 (UAP-AC-Pro, US-8-60W, USG, UC-CK). How's that for ever so slightly under-budget?
It would need a small amount of work customising the captive portal if you want to do social media logins - I've never done that personally, but someone might know the details. Their forums would be a good place to start if you want to look for someone who has done that, or general advice.
The gateway is definitely optional, and any cheap PoE switch would be fine (or non-PoE, as the AP will also ship with a PoE injector). The controller software can be run on any old PC or VM with 1-2GB of RAM (although I personally like the cloud key for convenience), so you could get the cost down as low as just the AP if you've got a switch and a spare computer.
It also gives you a nice ability to expand with another AP in future if this takes off and you need extra capacity, and a nice management interface which is optionally accessible over the internet without being on-site, which might be nice if you have to help troubleshoot this remotely.
Crap, sorry. Forgot I had a security gateway in between. But yes, that's it. ONT -> Security Gateway -> Switch
This is going to be very dependent on how deep into the weeds you want to be getting with your setup. We've got one key, being "needs to do gigabit internet". Another is you seem to be looking for gigabit/AC wireless. You also mention needing an AP on the far side of the house.
Do you expect that the router will have wifi capabilities on it's own? Some of the options that I know will handle gigabit throughput don't have built-in wireless.
The "easy" answer - meaning, if you just want good stuff that works well enough and don't want to learn all there is to know about networking before you get your LAN running - is to go with Ubiquiti gear. An EdgeRouter Lite will do gigabit for your router (as long as you don't get fancy, like trying to do QoS/rate shaping) for about $90.
You would then need at least one AP to handle the wireless, for which a UAP-AC-Lite would probably work okay - that's about $80.
For getting the ball rolling, just about any 8 port "dumb" switch would do, but you can get a TP-Link TL-SG108 gigabit switch for $30 on Amazon right now. You'd almost certainly want to replace that eventually, but it won't be useless and it's a good price.
Eventually you could look at getting a 16 port Ubiquiti switch and another AP or two if you have a large area to cover, and there's options for unified configuration setups I believe.
If you really want to get snazzy, spring for the Unifi Security Gateway which is the same hardware as the EdgeRouter Lite, but works with the Unifi controller software. Get that, as many APs as you need, and a Unifi switch and you can (eventually) run a VM for your Unifi controller to configure all of it through one, locally controlled web page.
Might I suggest a more prosummer solution.
Look at ubiquiti gear. It’s what I run at my home and we deploy there access points and switches at over 200 customers. They are excellent for the price
Ubiquiti Unifi Security Gateway (USG) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LV8YZLK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_HE45BbH0YVZR8
8 port Poe switch
Ubiquiti UniFi Switch 8 60W (US-8-60W) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MU3WUX1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_hF45BbGNDVBBR
Ubiquiti Networks Unifi 802.11ac Dual-Radio PRO Access Point (UAP-AC-PRO-US) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015PRO512/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_XF45BbNXXZSJ2
These products will allow you to make sure your wireless network is on something with the least interference, you can also band steer clients to use the less congested 5ghz band all on the same wireless network. Instead of having to make a separate one 2.4 and 5. Which is what most all in one home devices do.
This will over all be a much more flexible system as well. Find an area that doesn’t have good WiFi coverage. Run a cable and add an AP there, or they can even mesh and do it with out a cable.
Don’t buy that modem - let them give you one and just get your own router.
If you want maximum performance invest in a delegate router and separate access point.
I swear by the ubiquiti products and highly recommend their UniFi security gateway ( router) and AC-Pro access point.
Ubiquiti Unifi Security Gateway (USG) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LV8YZLK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_xQCKBbWHTSG35
Ubiquiti Networks UAP-AC-Pro-E Access Point Single Unit New (No PoE Included in Box) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079DSW6XX/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_dSCKBb1FA8XYQ
I’ve got this in my house along with several family members and it’s rock solid on both 2.4 and 5ghz bands.
Getting this out of the way. USG and UAP-AC Lite. $190 from Amazon.
Or Edgerouter X and UAP-AC Lite. $130 from Amazon (rock solid reliability, but less user friendly)
You can upgrade to UAP-AC Pro is you have devices that can use its spec's. $169 for the AP from Amazon.
I would suggest a full Ubiquiti Unifi Wifi setup. Who is the ISP? Depending on what they use for a modem/gateway, you could setup a Unifi Security Gateway(USG) as the main router and connect Unifi AP in the rooms with ethernet jacks where you want the most wifi. Unfi includes software that makes controlling and configuring the different AP effectively, and even securely from remote. If you have a fiber ISP with a gateway with SFP ports, I would suggest the USG Pro, otherwise the USG is more prudent. There are many different kinds of Unifi AP, from Unifi AC, to Unifi HD(Faster Wifi AC), Unifi LD(bit slower then AC but Longer Range) to Unifi Mesh when you need wifi coverage where you don't have a ethernet jack.
The main thing you need is computer with either Windows or OSX to run the controlling software. AFAIK the USG can record logs and configure AP, however you need the controlling software to interact with the USG and configure it in the first place.
If you have a dedicated PC that can always be on, then Ubiquiti Edge Router X(ERX). This would slightly complicate setup, but allow you separate hardware for LAN(ethernet) from WLAN(Wifi). There is the Unifi Network Management System (NMS) that could incorporate the different devices, but it's still in beta.
Why not go with a Ubiquiti Security Gateway instead? It is even cheaper than that crappy linksys box.
>it seemed you needed a lot of additional equipment.
Well, you can, you don't have to. For a basic network you'd only need their access point and a router of some sort (doesn't have to be theirs). You can just use the current switch you linked.
>What would be an equivalent setup from ubiquiti that's cheaper?
For the Wi-Fi you can get 2 or 3 UAP-AC-LITEs, which use Power over Ethernet, so you only need a single cable to each access point that carries both data and power. Which router you use really doesn't matter much, but the USG from Ubiquiti is a popular choice, it also integrates really well in the UniFi ecosystem. Another advantage is the UniFi controller, which is basically a central management interface for all UniFi products. You can try it out here.
Don’t use that netgear garbage. Ubiquiti makes really nice enterprise class network equipment which is super simple to set up and manage. At a minimum, all you need is cat5-e (cat 6 fine too) distributed around the house and a couple access points connected to the hard lines:
Ubiquiti Networks Unifi 802.11ac Dual-Radio PRO Access Point (UAP-AC-PRO-US) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015PRO512/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_gHiRDbHKHSSRR
(2 access points cover my 2500 sqft house and a third covers my detached garage and back yard)
You can optionally buy a PoE switch (power over Ethernet) to connect to the access points so that the power is transmitted through the network cable and you don’t have to plug them in to a wall outlet. This will work if you choose this route (you will have to configure this switch to turn on PoE on ports connected to access points).
Ubiquiti UniFi Switch 8 60W (US-8-60W) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MU3WUX1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_nNiRDbW2HP8HG
Any one of these progressive options is a valid stopping point, but I recommend buying the secure router/gateway and then the cloud key. These allow you to do advanced network management (main + guest Wi-Fi networks, custom qos throttling):
Ubiquiti Unifi Security Gateway (USG) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LV8YZLK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_1RiRDbW5SEFNM
Ubiquiti UniFi Cloud Key (UC-CK) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B017T2QB22/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_vSiRDb8SMX7ZY
The guest network is worth the price of admission for added security. Put all your random wireless devices (i.e. the internet of things) on this network to isolate them from your major devices (PCs and phones). Reason being the IoT devices are frequently hacked and used to access your home network.
Here is a video showing a setup: https://youtu.be/HcfIpTso_Ys
The cloud key is optional but if you have the money then go for it.
I ran into the same issue, I now have 85+ devices on my network with zero problems. Your best bet is to scrap/sell your current network gear and build yourself a solid setup. I recommend the following (get as many switches and APs as needed, I am using 3 APs currently):
Cable Modem: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MA5U1FW
Unmanaged Switches: https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-ProSAFE-Gigabit-Desktop-GS108-400NAS/dp/B00MPVR50A
Software: Unifi Controller - this is free - https://www.ubnt.com/enterprise/software/
The best thing to do is separate everything out so you can future proof your setup. What if down the line you want to extend your wifi or need more wired ports? When you separate everything out (security gateway/firewall, switch and wifi access points) its much easier to upgrade and troubleshoot. Your typical consumer grade all in one routers have all three of those things in one package and none of them are particularly great.
Ubiquiti is the current leader at this for the home user. They have SOHO grade equipment (small office home office) which is basically enterprise grade equipment but at consumer grade prices.
If I were you, here's what I'd do:
Ubiquiti Unifi Security Gateway (USG) - this will be the brains of your system and allow port forwarding, QoS, deep packet inspection, etc.
Ubiquiti Networks 8-Port UniFi Switch, Managed PoE+ Gigabit Switch with SFP, 150W (US-8-150W) - this gives you 8 ports, all of which can be enabled for power over ethernet which can easily power your security cameras and access points. If you don't need this then you can get the cheaper non-PoE switch Ubiquiti US-8 Unifi Switch
Ubiquiti Networks Unifi 802.11ac Dual-Radio PRO Access Point (UAP-AC-PRO-US) - This is a great access point to give you fast wifi at a great range. This plugs directly into your switch via ethernet cable. If you need to extend you wifi then you can get a second one and plug it in. These can be powered by PoE which is really nice.
Total cost: $461
I guarantee you would end up spending more upgrading an all in one router over the next few years. This will easily last you 10+ years if not more and be enterprise grade equipment.
For comcast gigabit you'll be needing a DOCSIS 3.1 capable modem such as the Arris SB8200.
For a router, for all in ones you can look at the typical Netgear R7000 or the Asus AC1900 if you want to keep it simple.
If you want something super reliable then...
Unifi Security Gateway
Ubiquiti AC Lite
Ubiquiti AC Pro
(also wire in as many things as possible with quality Cat5e/6/6a cables)
As far as a home firewall I would check that device out. You place it after you Comcast modem, but then before an aftermarket wireless access point. Your Comcast modem would then only exist as your internet gateway with your whole network behind the firewall. If you do this you should also disable the WiFi on the Comcast.
the lite: https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-UAP-AC-LITE-802-11ac-Gigabit-Dual-Radio/dp/B01DRM6MLI/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1537542525&amp;sr=1-2&amp;keywords=uap+lite&amp;dpID=31o-JViBQPL&amp;preST=_SY300_QL70_&amp;dpSrc=srch
So something like this: https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Unifi-Security-Gateway-USG/dp/B00LV8YZLK
Is there anything I'd gain/lose out on using this vs ER?
EDIT: /u/TheCarbonatedWater How/Where would I run the Unifi controller? I know the ER has a web-based management suite on it. I don't get the whole UNIFI controller thing. Also, the ERG doesn't seem like it has PoE to run the AP so would I have to get an injector/Switch with it?
EDIT2: Would something like the CloudKey be what I need?
This! Sort of...
For one, you will need a cable modem:
Why multiple options and price-points?
In a nutshell, download and upload bonded channels supports how much up and down bandwidth your cable modem would have. 8 (8 download) x4 (4 upload) theoretically supports 340 Mbps download and whatever upload speed. My current 2x2 supports 125+ Mbps download.
Why get something beefier? You will get slightly better performance if each bonded channel isn't operating near it's ceiling. With Comcast, they have 16 and 24 download channels in most markets so that will help with your overall connection. Also having 24 or 32 download channels will help you break through speed barriers if Comcast offers faster connection speeds in the future.
Personal Note: I pay for 100/10 from Comcast and bought the $90 NETEAR CM600-100NAS Cable Model 24x8 Bonded Channels for my new home. While the theoretical download speed from the modem far out paces what I will get from Comcast, the new modem will take full advantage of the 24 bonded download channels in my area.
Then you will need a router. With Ubiquiti, you can really go with one of two router options:
There's a lot of YouTube videos that will explain the differences between each router. The short version is that they use the same hardware and have all of the same features available if enabled over command line but:
Personal Note: I bought the EdgeRouter X because the price point is so good. This thing EASILY out performs my Linksys WRT 1900 AC or any other Linksys, Asus, etc. routers that I have ever owned. With that said, I will never fully leverage all of the controls in the UI and I wish I had gone with the USG as it integrates with the Unifi cloud stuff. I will eventually switch to a Unifi router.
Then you will need an Access Point (AP) to create an access point for your devices:
If you get the EdgeRouter X, get a UAP-AC-Lite. They both operate off of 24v so you can do Cable Modem -> 24v POE power injector (comes with the UAP-AC-Lite) -> EdgeRouter X -> UAP-AC-Lite. This is what I have now.
You can upgrade to the UAP-AC-LR which has the longest range of all of the Ubiquiti APs or the UAP-AC-LR because of it's 3x3 MIMO which gives it a higher input/output than the rest of the Ubiquiti 2x2 MIMO. The latter two devices use 48v POE injectors.
Personal Note: I'm using two UAP-AC-Lites in my current two story home and will transition to four in my new three story home. Even at the cheapest price point, these far out perform the other routers and access points that I have ever owned.
I'd take a different approach, depending on your level of comfort with networking.
Purchase a USG, and then add an access point (or two, or three, or more, depending on the size of your abode). Ubiquiti UAP-AC-'s (I have the UAP-AC-Lite) are pretty popular 'round these parts, and my UAP-AC-Lite is working perfectly, so far (I've only had it a few months now). Best part of this approach is that it'll be simple to replace the access point down the road, when some new whiz-bang WiFi technology sprouts up, and you won't have to waste cash replacing an otherwise perfectly working / capable router.
The nice thing with the products I linked is that they're all configured from a single interface (the UniFi Controller). No need to fumble about in multiple UIs to configure the devices, as you'd have to do if you take the advice others will likely provide -- instead of the USG, they'll suggest an Edgerouter + UAP-AC-, which while less expensive than what I suggested, use different configuration interfaces / methods.
insert crack about 'not breaking the bank', then listing out three routers that are ~$200 or more :P
Note: please do look at the recommended Ubiquiti setups:
A Ubiquiti router
You might need to add a switch with that one--not sure if you are going to need one anyway with your PC/consoles/TVs/Roku
This gives you wireless:
Note: lots of ubiquiti experts here.
Invest in your company, invest in your infrastructure.
I'm going to demur from your provided list, and instead offer an alternative solution. Just hear me out before you look for sticker shock (all prices in USD).
Ubiquiti 24-port Gigabit Switch with PoE ($379)
Ubiquiti Unifi Security Gateway ($129)
Ubiquiti Unifi Cloud Key Gen2 ($195)
Ubiquiti Unfi UAP-AC-PRO-E 2-pack ($290)
Total cost: $993
Why am I suggesting you spend almost three times the average cost of one of those small-business routers? A few reasons.
First is performance. Ubiquiti makes 'prosumer' / Enterprise level equipment. The Access Points (APs, last entry) are each rated for 200+ simultaneous connections. When deployed right, you'll probably connect to one consistently; the other will be used by the network to identify which WiFi channels are least congested and migrate you and your clients to those less congested frequencies. In the end, that's your real problem: congestion. With 62 competing access points, it can be hard for your devices to 'hear' your router. So you need a product with some real oomph to get your AP heard. Ubiquiti can do that in spades.
The second is professionalism. What looks better to a client? A plastic black box on a desk somewhere, or an access point hung from the ceiling, like you'd find in a fortune 500 company's headquarters? ubiquit's stuff is slick, sleek, and professional.
So what are you getting for your money?
The switch (first entry) is used to provide power to the Access Points (PoE: Power over Ethernet), and since you have some extra ports there, you can also run a connection to a server, or hardwired connection to laptops, or whatever you might come up with.
The security gateway is the real 'router' in this set up, but it has no wifi capability built in; this is why you need the Access Points. The way it works, you would take your ISP's modem, set it to bridge mode, and then connect the modem to the security gateway, and the security gateway to the switch.
The cloud key is the brains of the network. It will host the controller software and allow you to set up the wifi. While this software can in theory be run on any device, this particular cloud key also contains a hard drive - very useful if you'd like to install security cameras in the office (I'm sure your insurance company would be VERY grateful, if you dont have these already). As a side note, Ubiquiti does make PoE-powered security cameras.
This setup will 100% guarantee that your wifi is the dominant 'voice' in your office. You won't have dropouts, you won't have connection issues, and this setup is very expandable - 1 port for the gateway, 1 port for the cloud key, 2 for the APs, (ideally) 5 for wired connections for you and your coworkers - that still leaves 13 connections on the switch, which means you can still expand this if you hire more employees. If you find you need a backup ISP, there's a grade higher security gateway that can handle redundant ISP connections. If you need to cover more area with WiFi, you can add another access point.
Make the setup look really professional and install everything into a patch panel cabinet like this one
Hire an electrician who specializes in running ethernet cable, and have them mount the APs in your ceiling (super easy if you have a drop ceiling. If not, its more difficult, but not by any means impossible). While they're there, have them run at least one ethernet line to everyone's desk.
edit: and less you think I'm blowing smoke up your ass, I use a frighteningly similar setup in my own home. Yes, it's overkill, no I don't care. It's the most stable WiFi I've had in a house in my life.
You'll want some Ubiquiti equipment for this functionality and price point. Ubiquiti wifi AP's can broadcast multiple SSIDs, each on their own VLAN. Back that with a ubiquiti switch which also supports vlans, and you should be good to go.
Swtich here, AP here, and I'd recommend a new router so you know the vlan segregation extends all the way to the firewall, so here's the USG.
Granted, VLAN's are not a security tool and it is relatively easy to bypass them, but this should do for home use.
I'll speak for myself: Most business routers nowadays have a much better QoS than consumer routers. Yknow, that one feature that promises to balance your gaming and streaming and downloading? These routers (the USG in this case) can do it waaay better. I downloaded at 55 Mbps out of my purchased 60 Mbps for 40 mins (Destiny 2 Forsaken update), and my brother experienced NO LAG in Overwatch. During the 40 mins, he ended up Ana healing his way through three flawless games, and hooking his way through a few rockier ones at SR 3600. In fact, since our upgrade, he can stream 1080p 60fps on one monitor, download updates in the background, and play online games simultaneously without a hitch. If you want to upgrade anything, upgrade the router to something enterprise. The Edgerouter X is a good starting point at $50.
For your question, the Unifi Security Gateway (USG) is a wired-only router with software that easily configures all of the Unifi devices on your network. In general, enterprise networking gear is a lot less prone to failure and signal problems.
The Unifi setup is a bunch of Unifi gear from Ubiquiti Networks, a prosumer/enterprise network equipment company. A full setup will probably mean a router (the USG), a switch (as many Ethernet ports as you need), and as many wireless access points as you want (think router, but not actually routing, just connecting you to WiFi).
The wireless access points from Ubiquiti are named Unifi Access Point AC followed by their actual "name". Most people can use UAP AC Lites , running at about $80-$90, the low end of their access points. Their high end can get pretty expensive, able to connect thousands of users simultaneously and costing upward of $500 for one unit. A feature they have is called Power over Ethernet (PoE), where some device injects extra power into the Ethernet cable that plugs into each Access Point, decreasing the cables needed. Some of the UAP AC line comes with a PoE injector which can add that juice into the data connection. The easiest way to do PoE is to get a PoE switch, where switch ports can power an access point or other compatible device. This is what u/pocketknifeMT was talking about with "60w switch".
The cloudkey he mentions is a $100 tiny computer that runs the Unifi controller software. If you don't want to buy it, you can install the controller software on a computer and keep it on and connected to the network 24/7 for configuration and monitoring.
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With regard to interference there shouldn’t be any given that you would mostly be operating on 5G.
Second of all of all I would suggest getting a rack mount given that you have hard wiring through the house.
These would be the things you need;
This is what holds all of your components in a rack type manner.
This is what will allow you to interface with the hard wiring in your home. It’s essentially a Ethernet jack on your rack allowing you to activate and deactivate certain ports.
-A network switch of some sort (maby ubiquiti)
This is what will give you more ports for all of your wired devices, patch panel and WAPs. I recommend ubiquiti switches because they are high quality but you can start off small (they are a bit pricey)
This is a special kind of power strip that is especially made for this kind of setup.
These are the Ethernet cables that will connect all the different kinds of ports on your devices.
-Access point for every floor (so 3).
These are what will provide WiFi to your house because the USG doesn’t have wireless.
USG stands for Ubiquiti Security Gateway, this is a firewall built in to your network, and a router. I highly recommend this one.
-And I would recommend going for a gigabit plan.
The gigabit plan is just so much better. It’s faster and it’s reliable.
The access points that you listed will work fine. Just go with the most recent and you will be all set.
Now the setup I recommended is a bit overkill for your current setup but given you said you kids might get into gaming I have no doubt that eventually you will be using it to your full capacity.
DM me if you have any questions.
Unifi stack all the way:
Unifi Security Gateway: Ubiquiti Unifi Security Gateway (USG) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LV8YZLK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_ouoqDbNGPTMRV
Unifi PoE switch (if needed): Ubiquiti UniFi Switch - 24 Ports Managed (US-24-250W) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OJZUQ24/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_2uoqDbP4PF520
Unifi AP nanoHD: Ubiquiti UniFi nanoHD Compact 802.11ac Wave2 MU-MIMO Enterprise Access Point (UAP-NANOHD-US) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DWW3P6K/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_rvoqDb562BQEE
No VLANs necessary for your scale.
If you don’t want to manage a Unifi Controller, we offer that as a service for customers. https://peopleit.com or give us a call at (616) 594-7100 if you have any questions.
I noticed that myself. I guess NETGEAR just gave up on those.
Ended up ordering one of these.
Do you think it will be a suitable replacement?
I just took advantage of NewEgg's sale ($89 each) and bought 2 US-8 switches to replace my non unifi switches. They also had the PoE version of the switch that you want for $99.
Amazon has the USG for $112: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LV8YZLK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I have the Ubiquiti USG router. I love it. With my 1GB AT&T Fiber, I get about 900 MB up/down.
USG on Amazon
But it is only a router. Not a switch, or an access point. But for network geeks, it works great. :-)
Maybe others could recommend a more entry level Netgear one.
I do not have a fios router. I have a USG
Why would you only need 1 moca if you are using the FIOS router? I think i will have more follow up questions if you don't mind.
Also, do you notice any throughput issues when you split 1 moca line into 2?
Edit: and thank you!
first off, don't rent a router from your ISP. you will need to use a modem or gateway depending on the type of internet you are getting. if you are using cable or dsl i would also suggest to buy your own modem as well. it's a modern version of renting a rotary phone from the company and a racket.
you can get a router and wifi combo that is new and good for about $150 or more for faster or more advanced features.
as far as game plan for your home here is my suggestions
to start you off since you just moved in and are already renting it for now just use the provided router from to fiber provider so you can get connected and plan the rest of this build out.
depending on the layout and size of your home (cinder block construction is terrible for wifi and other rf signals) you may need multiple access points. my suggestion is to look into a brand of networking equipment called ubiquity.
they are relatively new to the market and have really shaken up the price and feature packs. set up is mainly through a web and mobile app and is very easy for a relatively new person to IT. there is also a huge community here on reddit and youtube showing off features and giving how to's.
here is my goto suggestion if you are willing to invest in an infrastructure more than a single router.
the fiber will come into your property and go through a modem and gateway provided by the isp you would then plug it into a router:
This is a smaller model that is a router and firewall combo by ubiquity, its about 110 at amazon
Then you plug the router into a switch:
This is a sort of backbone device that you would use to send the internet to other devices and for other devices to comunicate with each other. this one is a poe switch which means it can send power to some devices like access points over the one cat 5 cable. this one has 8 ports so that means 7 outboard devices can be connected to the network because one is needed for the router. they make larger ones with more ports for more devices. this model is currently 194 on amazon
you will then need access points:
these are radios that broadcast wifi to your wireless devises these connect to the switch with cat 5 cables and are best placed near where you are going to use wifi devises the average home would benefit from two or three of these one to cover the living room kitchen great room area and one to cover the bedroom hallway are and possibly one for the backyard pool area (that might be important because of your external walls). this model is currently 80 on amazon.
if you deploy this list you will also need a cloud key:
this is a devise that manages the network and stores configuration files locally. it's like a mini server. this is about 78 on amazon.
you will also need cat 5/6/7 cables of various lengths and a power strip for about 500 you can get a really great network that can cover your whole house and that can easily be upgraded incrementally as technology improves. My suggestion would be to get all this mounted in a closet somewhere and get cat5/6/7 run to all the things that you can and place the access point in the house so you get the best coverage possible for the IOT devises in your house. as your network grows and you need more wired ports you can add a switch or replace the one with a 24 or 46 port one. when wifi tech improves past ag you can just replace the access points without affecting the rest of the network.another big thing is to run cable to anything you can this will help with keeping your wifi fast since there are less devices on the wifi.
If there are two main points they would be:
I do agree and I've heard lots of good things about Ubiquiti and did look into that:
That would run me about $300 for two AP's for the non-pro versions which is what the router cost, but then I'd have to string PoE cable which would be difficult but not impossible. I was hoping there was a simpler solution and someone had good experiences with an off the shelf router. I'm also scared of investing into Ubiquiti because if it doesn't work out as well the return process would be more difficult.
I don’t believe it’s the pro.
Ubiquiti Unifi Security Gateway (USG) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LV8YZLK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_oegVCbSF4YWHZ
I know it's suggested ad nauseam on here. But Ubiquiti, specifically the Unifi range is what I suggest. You'd need a USG, switch, and AP. You can do it for ~$300.
Everything runs from a central controller that gives you a lot of advanced features and a quality set up. It's more enterprise style, but still on the prosumer level.
You can shop around on eBay for deals. Just make sure its Unifi.
Router. As it's fiber so no need for modem. Awesome list!
Also, is there anything similar recommende to this but with more LAN ports? https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Unifi-Security-Appliance-USG/dp/B00LV8YZLK This is Unifi USG you mentioned, right?
Thanks for the input. Yes there are coax wires unterminated behind a random blank box cover. I looked behind 4 before I found cat5 (in my office... lucky me). I'm going to speak to my super this week about a number of issues and I need to remember to ask him about this.
I don't think your hardware suggestion will work. I see that most of those models are rack units. I'm looking for something with a manageable size.
What do you think about this or this or this?
That is pricy. This Ubiquiti USG is pretty good for a security appliance.
You are approaching this correctly I think.
If you are running wiring you will want to pick a location to be the network rack. typically where the lines come in the house (but obviously that doesn't matter here)
Get a 19in rack and mount it.
Patch Panel for punching down your terminations there.
Get a shelf.
Probably looking at a 16-port switch? Maybe 24?
I like the Unifi stack for everything. lots of people say the edge routers, which makes some sense for one location I guess. It's a little bit more detailed UI. Literally the same hardware though.
I like the USG. If it were me I would probably put in the Pro, because rackmount, but that's stupid crazy overkill from a tech perspective. It would bother me irrationally, just the form factor.
Then you drop your Access Points in. It depends on how the house is setup, but you want to put them where you actually will use them. At 4000sqft, 2-3 should cover it, depending on layout.
> So looking for suggestions on setup. Was thinking about going all Ubiquiti gear but alot of people say it can be challenging to setup but great once you get it working. With the hassle of moving, young kids, and dealing with getting internet in the first place Im not sure I have time for something that will take a while to get working great.
It won't take much time at all to actually set it up. Physically setting it up will be the time consuming bit. The technical setup will be nothing to someone who runs a VM server. In fact you will do what I do and just spin up a headless ubuntu instance and install the controller. You click adopt a few times on the hardware in a pretty UI and it's done.
Your best bet is to get a security appliance that does VPN whatever and then place a switch behind that. Any device connected to that switch would be on the VPN tunnel. I think the Ubiquiti UniFi Security Applicane may be what you need. However, I have no professional experience or colleague feedback on this device, so I cannot say for certain.
If you had the Ubiquiti EdgeRouter, you could initiate the same kinds of ipsec traffic from within, but you'd also need to get an external Access Point for wifi, as I don't believe you can use the Network Box as a local mode AP. If you have the TV service and the new equipment where the storage and network box are married, all of this becomes a much more complicated setup.
I don't think the extra hop on the interface in example one would have that much of an impact or degradation on traffic, as the NATing would be handled by the security appliance. Maybe DMZ that reserved address to overcome any issues.
/u/comptech. Thoughts? Any experience with that appliance?
$105 with free prime shipping on Amazon
So a Ubiquiti setup would need 1 router + 1 AP? Like this:
in general, ISP supplied devices are designed for basic home usage. high quality video (sending - not receiving) is out of spec. and most routers/firewalls tend to hit CPU limits pretty quickly due to their design criteria. and that is when you step up to the next level.
while this device is not DOCSIS 3.1, it is DOCSIS 3.0 - which is still faster than what your are paying/getting for your internet connectivity.
per the router, you have 2 basic options:
get this device:
build/take a 'throw-away' PC and utilize something like this...
in either case, the power of either of the above devices will surpass your existing setup.
Good question. I am under the impression that a USG does not provide PoE.
Actually, it is. Check it out on Amazon.
So this: https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Unifi-Ap-AC-Lite-UAPACLITEUS/dp/B015PR20GY
Plus this: https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Unifi-Security-Gateway-USG/dp/B00LV8YZLK/
Ubiquiti Networks UAP-AC-Pro-E Access Point Single Unit New (No PoE Included in Box) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079DSW6XX/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_WPbJBbD5YV67X
And an optional USG Ubiquiti Unifi Security Gateway (USG) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LV8YZLK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_ENbJBbQHYAV21
It's not just a WiFi router, it's an AP that will connect to a Switch and has a hardware Security Gateway protecting the whole network.
If you want some quality equipment, Ubiquiti is pretty nice. Online Management, Stats and graphs and loads of functionality.
So if I get the following:
Ubiquiti Unifi Security Gateway (USG) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LV8YZLK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_G.-6CbQKR05PA
Ubiquiti UniFi Switch 8 60W (US-8-60W) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MU3WUX1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_oe.6CbNHHGH30
Ubiquiti Networks Unifi 802.11ac Dual-Radio PRO Access Point (UAP-AC-PRO-US) x2 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015PRO512/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_We.6Cb27RWQ13
This should be sufficient, or am I missing something?
As someone who isn't network savy, is this relatively plug and play? I can mount the access points on the ceiling and plug into the cat 6 cables. The router would then plug into my modem in the smart panel, and be connected to the switch and my 4 Ethernet lines? (2 to the access points, 1 to living room and 1 to the den/office)
If you are not a tech-savvy person, and not trained, then just use hardware capable of delivering the needs.
Checkout Ubiquiti routers:
Their instruction on how to:
So your hookup will be something similar to this with modifications.
Did some research, drank some Ubiquiti koolaid and this is what I'm looking at now
1: Netgear Modem - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01I5TJGSE/
2: Ubiquiti Security Gateway - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LV8YZLK/
3: Ubiquiti Wireless AP - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015PRO512/
4: Ubiquiti Cloud Key - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B017T2QB22 (sure Rasp Pi but by the time buying everything and configuring it I don’t mind forking over the extra $30)
Leave the un-managed switches as is for now.
I run the ER-LITE at home and it's the best router I've ever owned. It's at almost 3 months uptime right now, and the only reason it's not 6 months is a power outage.
Edit: Seems like the software's still pretty limited. Check out the review at http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Networks-UNIFI-SECURITY-GATEWAY/dp/B00LV8YZLK/ref=pd_sxp_f_r#customerReviews.
No. Firmware updates is all you can do with the router as a consumer. You can however add a firewall to your network: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LV8YZLK/
Thanks for your inputs. Isn't the controller the same as the router? I am particularly referring to this: https://www.amazon.es/Ubiquiti-Networks-USG-pasarel-Controlador/dp/B00LV8YZLK/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1540310929&sr=8-3&keywords=ubiquiti+router
Or is this one more suitable? https://www.amazon.es/UBIQUITI-ER-X-Ubiquiti-Router/dp/B011N1IT2A/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1540310929&sr=8-2&keywords=ubiquiti+router
Thanks both of you for the reply! Regarding the controller--that's a great idea--I didn't know I couldn't incorporate the EdgeRouter into my controller instance (I'm new to controllers though). It does look like the Unified Gateway is the way to go.
Also, after thinking on it--I guess I'll splurge for a 16 port POE+ switch just so I'm safe. So the hardware update would be;
Ubiquiti Unifi Security Gateway
UniFi Network Switch US-16-150W Switch Managed PoE+ Gigabit Switch with SFP 150W
Ubiquiti Unifi Ap-AC Long Range - Wireless Access Point - 802.11 B/A/G/n/AC (UAP-AC-LR-US)
Do I really need a Cloud Key?
I am a proponent of Unifi USG devices. They are super cheap, easily configurable, and have lots of features. The Pro model has a bit more capability than the standard, but depending on what your needs are, you may be able to get by with the standard USG. Here are the 2 models.
USG Pro: https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Unifi-Security-Gateway-USG-PRO-4/dp/B019PBEI5W/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1540841846&amp;sr=1-2&amp;keywords=unifi+usg&amp;dpID=31-19KkLadL&amp;preST=_SX300_QL70_&amp;dpSrc=srch
Ubiquiti has some options
Could you look over these parts and let me know if I'm missing anything? Would I just be monitoring this stuff at my desktop that's wired in or would I need something else to control all this? I'm not sure on which switch I need.
Fiber connection>Gateway/Router> Switch 1 or Switch 2 > ethernet > AP
I am being pushed towards the in wall AP cause the fiance doesn't like things poking out from our ceiling and I was told wall mounting them doesn't work as well. From looking on their forums the UAP-AC-IW-PRO beta testers have said they are getting surprisingly good signal from their in wall AP since they have better antennas. But if I was able to go the UAP-AC-PRO route ceiling mounted how many and where would you suggest I place them?
So this is my home layout. I assumed these were the best places to put them. The red arrows show which direction the AP will be facing from the wall and the blue box is where everything terminates and I'm assuming that's where the gateway and switches will be. The ethernet drops in the living room and game room are higher up then the rest. I can have an updated picture of where all the ethernet drops are around my house if that would help.
The bedrooms near the front of the house aren't currently being used so I'm not to focused on them but I could always go back and add another AP later in that area right?
This seems like it's going to blow through my $500 budget but I'm assuming it's worth it over getting something like the Eero 2nd generation?
I would say a couple Ubiquiti Lite's would cover the WiFi needs well.
You can just use all Ubiquiti gear to keep management unified. You can install the controller software in a VM or get the HW controller.
US-16-150W UniFi Switch
Ubiquiti Unifi Security Gateway (USG)
Ubiquiti Unifi Cloud Key - Remote Control Device (UC-CK) - This can be omitted and you can run the same SW in a VM on a always on PC. You can also just spin it up when you want to make changes, but then you will not be able to use some of the advanced features.
First of all, thank you very much for the help. The TP-LINK is a TL-SF1005D, which is unmanaged, so you are correct, no IP. Not sure how I came up with the IP conflict earlier.
I've updated the future network diagram here (new equipment in orange): http://imgur.com/qoyRQi4
It looks like I will need:
(1) [UBIQUITI USG] (https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Unifi-Security-Gateway-USG/dp/B00LV8YZLK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1495983480&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=Ubiquiti+USG)
(1) 16 PORT SWITCH
(1) [UPS] (https://www.amazon.com/APC-Back-UPS-Battery-Protector-BE550G/dp/B0019804U8/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1495985064&amp;sr=1-4&amp;keywords=apc+ups)
Cost effective question:
I would go with a Ubiquiti router and a matching access point.
Is this the correct gateway? If so, I might try it, though the entrance fee is a tad steep. I suppose I could always return it if it doesn't work out. Are you able to just hook up your router of choice to it and then host anything you need to?
So, by all rights I would heavily recommend getting a professional to do this for you, they will be available to help with any issues that crop up down the line. That saaaaiiidddd... you could also do this.
This will run you shy of $900 and will take care of the network forever... until something breaks. Then whatever poor SOB has to take over for you has to figure out what's been done and how to fix it. If you can get that approved, come back for help on how to put it together. It will take some trial and error to figure out if you need additional APs depending on the space, but these are beefy units.
I have never seen a piece of Ubiquiti gear die, aside from what I've killed myself. As long as people don't fuck with it, it should work fine for years.
As far as data storage goes, a proper Synology NAS would be my recommendation, but it depends on how much storage space you need. So, how much do you need? If you need less than 12TB, you can get away with a 2 bay device like the DS218 ($250 - https://www.amazon.com/Synology-bay-DiskStation-DS218-Diskless/dp/B077PJX8TH). The amount of storage will determine the cost of the drives, 4TB would be ~$300, 12TB would be ~$900.
Last item would be a battery backup. This is not optional. It will keep electricity hijinks from kiling your data or equipment. Never plug anything else into it and leave it alone once set up. https://www.amazon.com/APC-Compact-Protector-Back-UPS-BX1500M
Ahh, since I do have an ac1750 in possession, would it be good enough to just skip the ac1900 instead? That way, I would have a bigger budget when I do plan on switching to the Ubiquiti APs.
Planning to get the USG, switch, and one or two APs. What else will I need?
Never used them before - but what advantage would they have over, say, the Ubiquiti Unifi Security Gateway?
You might see ~90-95% of 40mb/s, there's a little overhead when you do WAN combos, but what you're asking isn't out of the ordinary by any means.
That would accomplish what you're after.
Its called the Unifi Dream Machine, but looks like its only "Early Access" at the moment, which basically means you'd be Beta testing, but I've only heard positive things, with people saying its a lot more powerful than the USG (specifically for using things such as the IPS).
But to answer you questions:
Personally, I do use POE, but I use their 8 Port Swich with 4 POE ports (their cheap-cheap version), along with this, I have their standard 8 port switch, see below:
8 Port, with 4 POE: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ubiquiti-UniFi-Switch-Port-Enterprise/dp/B01MU3WUX1/
8 Port, None POE: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ubiquiti-US-8-Managed-Desktop-Passthrough/dp/B01N362YPG/
Cloud Key Controller: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ubiquiti-Networks-UC-CK-Stand-Alone-UniFi-Cloud-Key-Controller-BOXED/401859588968
You don't need the last one, but I find it useful, as it gives you a physical device and it saves having to spin up a seperate VM or Rasperberry Pi for it.. And its pre-baked, you plug it in and go!
Some people will cry "danger", and they have a point, if you are not 100% confident in what you are doing, its better to use separate NICs for LAN and WAN. This also has another issue, if you've only got 1Gb NICs, and its carrying both LAN and WAN, you've got a bottleneck (On my servers, I use 10Gbe, so I don't have that issue).
I like the sound of the USG one. Is this essentially all I need to get it set up? The MoCA 2.0 Bridge, USG, and the UniFi AC HD. And the software which I'm assuming is a free download. What is a switch and do I need one of those as well? And do the Verizon agents that come and set up everything work with these as well? I would assume not..
In the event I take the Ubiquity route I just wanted to make sure I knew what I was jumping into. So as I see it I just require the following pieces:
Then download the controller and i'm good to go I think with a little bit of wiring and mounting.
ISP speed 125/25
Windows 10 client
What are smartqueues?
This gateway: https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Unifi-Security-Gateway-USG/dp/B00LV8YZLK
TL/DR: a bit of background and personal experience ultimately suggesting that you run some network cable, and look into a full Ubiquiti setup with USG router, PoE switch & NanoHD Wi-Fi AP’s for around $400 including cabling, provided you’re not planning on upgrading your internet to faster than 1Gbps soon.
I’m not familiar with coax cable internet, but assume you can get some sort of Ethernet handoff from your modem?
Either way, make the effort and run some CAT6 cabling for Wi-Fi AP’s, and key devices too if possible.
My network setup in my 1150 square foot apartment, works perfectly on my 200Mbps fibre connection and would cost you around $483 for the following:
I host the Ubiquiti Controller on a Windows PC acting as my home storage & media server and keep this running as a service (not necessary I know, but I like the stats).
My network serves a mixture of around 30 devices, consisting of phones, tablets, computers, my home storage & media server, IoT devices, home theatre & TV’s all whilst doing some online gaming myself in the mix without hiccup. Hiccups are generally self-induced by my fiddling on the network. But from a stability and capability aspect, it’s perfect for me.
I’ve previously used the “cheaper” MikroTik RB2011 ($102), which could also work for you - https://www.amazon.com/MikroTik-RB2011UiAS-RM-Routerboard-Rackmount-5xGbit/dp/B00DYWE2Z0
However, if you you were already considering Ubiquiti Wi-Fi AP’s, then possibly consider going with a full Ubiquiti setup, by getting one of their routers & Wi-Fi AP’s? Ubiquiti’s UniFi range is quite impressive and I too like the commercial appeal of their products, so I’m slowly shifting my network over to a full Ubiquiti one (don’t tell my wife). A Ubiquiti setup could cost you between $384 with 1 AP and $533 with 2 AP’s... (although I feel you may need at least 2 AP’s)... excluding the cost of the cabling needed.
But if I were you, I’d look into a setup like:
If you could, the more robust UniFi USG-Pro 4 (tad bit expensive) would be a great router as I’ve read that the standard USG can cause speed issues with speeds above 500Mbps, when enabling nice-to-have features like its Deep Packet Inspection (DPI) and Intrusion Prevention System (IPS). These features are not necessary, but nice if you’re like me and like the stats and functionality they bring.
Good luck and enjoy the setup once you decide and get the kit. Always fun setting up a new network gear.
alongside the protection built into my router
its one of the better home solutions
So should something like this work better?
Using this USG
And using this Switch
Then I was going to just grab a 24 Patch Panel and a small Wall Mounted Rack off of Monoprice. Then Whenever I expand the network later, I wont be having to buy more. Unless I'm just over killing.
Is this what your talking about? https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Unifi-Security-Appliance-USG/dp/B00LV8YZLK
I currently see 5 ethernet cords plugged into our current router so I think we need a bigger one (unless they make a hub for them. Also, I think I confused you about how big the warehouse is. 1/3 of it (or one side) is the office which has two floors. The rest is the actual warehouse and having a very strong wifi signal probably is less of a deal than inside the office.
If ease of use is your thing then get the USG, 8 port UniFi switch, and an AP-AC-LR, The AP-AC-LR's have both 2.4/5Ghz bands.
You can get two AP-AC-LR's and UPLINK the second from the first one if you are unable to run Ethernet.
No need to add a router off the switch as it will segregate the networks. I.E. Create two networks. And it's rather pointless.
Just buy a second access point.
What sq ft are you trying to cover? 1 AP-AC-LR can relatively cover a 1500 sqft 1 story wood/plaster home.
I got you fam.
Time to build a lab.
A stackable managed 48 port switch with sfp uplinks.
Managed router with good security options and support for multiple VLANS
Some Access Points
Set you back about 500-700 USD, but this is as close to enterprise as you can get in your home. Do your best to use the CLI to configure the switch, GUI is fine for this firewall/router.
The APs can be managed with UniFi just like an enterprise system.
There's also a pretty good market for old cisco gear. Hunt down 3560, or 3750 which are old, but good enough to learn stuff with. They run for around 80-200 USD for a 48 port switch.
this would probably sort your router woes
along with a switch to provide more lan ports
that should be good enough to sort your issues. You would need a seperate ap, for wifi, but it would help sort out a crappy router situatuion