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u/OmnesViaeRomamDucunt · 11 pointsr/Catholicism

Jay Dyer is a Protestant turned Catholic turned Orthodox turned SSPX turned Orthodox... I've seen him on Twitter being called out on certain points by serious Catholics and he just blocks them, that is when he's not shitposting... not arguing in good faith.

Listen, you're going to need to read...

https://www.amazon.com/Early-Papacy-Synod-Chalcedon-451/dp/1586171763

https://www.amazon.com/Upon-This-Rock-Scripture-Apologetics/dp/0898707234/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_14_t_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=057Q3P8G8BYR2CDNDPNV

https://www.amazon.com/Studies-Early-Papacy-John-Chapman/dp/1475044909

Check out Erick Ybarra's stuff too, he even has some long form interviews on Youtube Jay Dyer prefers to debate people he knows he can beat in live interviews...

https://erickybarra.org/2018/02/11/does-the-filioque-subordinate-the-holy-spirit-to-creation/

u/CJGodley1776 · 8 pointsr/TraditionalCatholics

A real good book with tons of resources on the primacy of Peter is called Upon this Rock.

u/Disputabilis_Opinio · 3 pointsr/DebateReligion

That would be interesting to read. I bet it has heaps to do with Aquinas. I know Feser affirms a Natural Law Theory of Morality which is very Catholic and so might be a part of it. Generally, it's no surprise to me. I think any careful and rational inquirer who comes to believe the Nicene Creed will be lead to either the Orthodox or Catholic faith. And I think of those two the weight of the evidence is slightly but appreciably in favour of Catholicism.

It's catholicity better satisfies the Great Commission; I think a better case for continuity of aim and organisation back to the Apostolic Church (subject to certain qualifications) can be made; the Filoque is in my view needed to make sense of the Trinity; add to this good evidence for apparent miraculous confirmation in modern times by Marian apparitions at Fatima and Lordes etc.; and pretty good a priori arguments for the necessity of a living voice and so a papacy. To this last point one might add the historical argument for the primacy of Peter though that might be a bit controversial!

u/blackforestinn · 3 pointsr/Catholicism

Lol you sound like my family.

Bearing False Witness: Debunking Centuries of Anti-Catholic History https://www.amazon.com/dp/1599475367/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_bfhNBb5VJRK76

Eusebius: The Church History https://www.amazon.com/dp/082543307X/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_UfhNBb1P8XHR2

Upon This Rock: St. Peter and the Primacy of Rome in Scripture and the Early Church (Modern Apologetics Library) https://www.amazon.com/dp/0898707234/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_fghNBbFWXATPK

u/jjo2 · 2 pointsr/Catholicism

Hi. Your questions were exactly my questions, only 3+ years ago. I came from being raised in the Orthodox Church, and began to think about St. Peter's headship after listening to an Orthodox Podcast by Fr. Thomas Hopko.

What I will say is that there is an abundance of Grace available in both Churches. That being said, I eventually decided that I needed to be in communion with the See of Peter and so converted to Roman Catholicism.

You might want to check out this book. I read it, among many other things, though I'll have to dig out my stuff to see what else there was.

I spent time reading information about the Great Schism. As well, I became aware of the Photian Schism as well.

I'd ask you to consider the position of each Church with regard to the reception of the Eucharist by members of the opposite confession. I found that the Roman position was much more charitable toward what they consider their sister Church (or the other lung of the Church), as opposed to the Orthodox position which essentially considers Rome heretical, without outright saying so.

There is no question that Apostolic Succession resides in both Churches, so for me the Orthodox position comes off a bit "protestant" if you will. Thus, I have come to view them as the first Protestants.

I'll be glad to have more discussion with you if you come up with some questions you want to talk about.

u/RomanCatechist · 2 pointsr/Catholicism

If you like to read, please check out

Upon this Rock This book is about the Papacy. & Crossing the Tiber, a Protestant conversion story, which includes a lot of Church history, and quotes from the early Church.

u/meowcarter · 2 pointsr/Catholicism

You might want to check out this book: https://www.amazon.com/Upon-This-Rock-Scripture-Apologetics/dp/0898707234

The youtuber LizziesAnswers here stated how it really helped her decide between orthodoxy and the Catholic Church. Hopefully it might help you too!

u/ur2l8 · 2 pointsr/Catholicism

Quite frankly, I don't know why this isn't more popular amongst more academically inclined Protestants/high Protestants/Catholics. Or perhaps it is, but I've only seen it mentioned here once, about a week ago. It's great if you're at a cross roads between Orthodoxy vs Catholicism, and contains a monolith if information and Early Church & biblical citations. It's between 300-400 pages, with I swear half of every page being footnotes. Not your typical bedtime read, I suppose.

http://www.amazon.com/Upon-This-Rock-Scripture-Apologetics/dp/0898707234/ref=pd_sim_b_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=0GMBK4GZ7EFQC9653N6X