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u/fnv245 · 6 pointsr/askphilosophy

Plantinga wrote 3 books related to this subject. He wrote "Warrant: The Current Debate" to give an overview of the field of philosophy on what needs to be added to true beliefs to yield knowledge. Then he wrote "Warrant and Proper Function" to give his own take. Finally he wrote "Warranted Christian Belief" which basically applies his epistemology to Christian belief. So the guy has done a ton of work in epistemology and also applying epistemology to Christianity.

Links to Books:

https://www.amazon.com/Warrant-Current-Debate-Alvin-Plantinga/dp/0195078624

https://www.amazon.com/Warrant-Proper-Function-Alvin-Plantinga/dp/0195078640/ref=pd_sim_14_1/164-8766607-7794903?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=H9CQMRJ1GDZG8WF2EHQ8

https://www.amazon.com/Warranted-Christian-Belief-Alvin-Plantinga/dp/0195131932/ref=pd_sim_14_2/164-8766607-7794903?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=H9CQMRJ1GDZG8WF2EHQ8

u/Proverbs313 · 5 pointsr/DebateReligion

From a post I made awhile back:

If you want to go for a scholastic/western positive apologetics approach check out: The Blackwell Companion to Natural Theology.

If you want to go for a scholastic/western negative apologetics approach check out Alvin Plantinga's God and Other Minds. This is the work that actually re-kindled serious philosophical debate on the existence of God in Anglophone philosophical circles according to Quinten Smith (a notable atheist philosopher btw). From there you could also check out Alvin Plantinga's warrant trilogy in order: Warrant: The Current Debate, Warrant and Proper Function, and Warranted Christian Belief.

Personally I'm skeptical of the scholastic/western approach in general and I favor the Eastern/Mystical approach. I think the scholastic/western approach cannot escape radical skepticism, and I mean this in terms of secular and religious. If one takes seriously the scholastic/western approach in general, whether one is atheist or theist, radical skepticism follows. This video from a radical skeptic that goes by the user name Carneades.org does a good job of demonstrating this: Arguments of the Indirect Skeptic

The Orthodox approach has always been mystical rather than scholastic all the way from the beginnings of Christianity. From Jesus, to the apostles, to the church fathers, to right now we still have the original apostolic faith in the Orthodox Church. Check out this short documentary to learn more: Holy Orthodoxy: The Ancient Church of Acts in the 21st Century.

Fr. Vladimir Berzonsky explains the Eastern/Mystical approach: "To properly understand the Orthodox approach to the Fathers, one must first of all understand the mystical characteristic of Orthodox theology and the tradition of the apophatic approach to an understanding-if "understanding" is indeed the proper word-of what the hidden God in Trinity reveals to us. This needs to be combined with the insight that what is incomprehensible to our reason inspires us to rise above every attempt at philosophical limitation and to reach for an experience beyond the limits of the intellect. The experience of God is a transcendence born from union with the divine-henosis (oneness with God) being the ultimate goal of existence. This makes the requirement of true knowledge (gnosis) the abandoning of all hope of the conventional subject-object approach to discovery. It requires setting aside the dead ends of Scholasticism, nominalism, and the limits set by such Kantian paradigms as noumena/phenomena. One must return to, or better yet, find in one's heart (or nous, the soul's eye) union with the Holy Trinity, which has never been lost in the Orthodox Church."

Source: Fr. Vladimir Berzonsky, (2004). Three Views on Eastern Orthodoxy and Evangelicalism. p. 178. Zondervan, Grand Rapids

u/pburton · 2 pointsr/Anarcho_Capitalism

Plantinga is an old-school academic philosopher, so the best way to get familiar with his ideas is his published works (Amazon links below):

  • The Analytic Theist: An Alvin Plantinga Reader - a well-edited anthology that presents a broad survey of Plantinga's ideas (leans heavily toward his epistemology, though IIRC).
  • Warrant: The Current Debate
  • Warrant and Proper Function
  • Warranted Christian Belief This is the only one of the "warrant" books I've read. The three books aren't considered a "trilogy" as such, rather WCD and WPF are companion pieces and WCB then builds a different argument based on the earlier works. Namely, Plantinga responds to what he calls the de jure argument that Christianity is irrational, unjustified, and/or unwarranted (in contrast to the de facto argument that Christianity is false). Some googling will reveal reviews of the book from every conceivable angle, some with responses from Plantinga himself. When Plantinga refers to the earlier books, he gives some context, so it's possible to read this book without having read the other two.

    Plantinga is also on the editorial board of Faith and Philosophy, the journal of the Society of Christian Philosophers, and he's contributed several articles over the years. There are even more published articles written by his students and colleagues about his ideas.
u/Repentant_Revenant · 1 pointr/ReasonableFaith

I would add the other two books in Plantinga's trilogy on Warrant as well.

Warrant: The Current Debate

Warrant and Proper Function


Also Whose Justice? Which Rationality? by Alasdair MacIntyre

I've heard that Charles Taylor is a must as well.

u/JudgeBastiat · 1 pointr/changemyview

>Why exactly shouldn't I doubt my own reasoning? Can you elaborate on "You have no way to get out of it"? Why will I stop learning and not make any great ideas?

If you endorse extreme skepticism, doubt that you know anything at all and doubt all methods of obtaining knowledge, then it's literally impossible for you to learn anything.

>Yes I am currently undergoing an epistemology crisis and would love my view to be changed and any other readings you can present to me would be great.

Okay, here's some reading assignments:

The Problem of the Criterion by Roderick Chisholm - A good introduction to the difference between particularism (what I'm advocating for), methodism, and skepticism.

Is Justified True Belief Knowledge? by Edmund Gettier - Enormously influential short paper for modern epistemology, analyzing whether "justified true belief" works as a definition of knowledge. While this definition works for most things we know, and has been commonly used historically, Gettier makes a fairly solid case that this definition needs work.

Proof of an External World by G.E. Moore - Moore's famous "here is one hand, and here's another" proof. This includes a long discussion of Kantian epistemology as well, if you're interested in that. I personally don't agree with Kant, but it would be remiss not to include and know him.

Meditations on First Philosophy by Rene Descartes - Descartes starts off with a similar "extreme" skepticism. I personally don't think he succeeds in getting out of it, but it's worth noting that Descartes thought he did. This is certainly something worth reading.

If you're willing to shill out some money, I'd also recommend Epistemology by Richard Feldman, which goes over a lot of these topics, and if you want to see something a little more advanced, you might also look at Alvin Plantinga's Warrant: The Current Debate, the first book of his trilogy on epistemology.

And of course, the one I've been recommending to you so far, Thomas Reid's Inquiry into the Human Mind.

>How and why is it too exclusive?

You're trying to set up a standard of knowledge that needs to not be based on anything else, but you're also going to doubt everything that's incorrigible. You're standard for knowledge excludes things we know. The problem isn't that we don't know those things, but that your standard is wrong.