Reddit reviews WD Red 8TB NAS Hard Disk Drive - 5400 RPM Class SATA 6 Gb/s 128MB Cache 3.5 Inch - WD80EFZX
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Specifically designed for use in NAS systems with up to 8 baysTested for 24x7 reliabilityNASware firmware for compatibility
Raw storage:
Total 108TB(18 drives)
Actual storage:
Total 72TiB
Case:
Used the two bay 3.5" cage, and three bay 2.5" cage from the Deep Silence 3 case.
Fans:
Used two 120mm case fans from the Deep Silence 3 case between the two stacks of drives.
Motherboard: Supermicro X10SRA-F
CPU: Intel Xeon E5-1620 v3 3.5GHz
Heatsink: Noctua DH-D15
RAM:
Total 48gb
PSU: Corsair AX1500i
Controllers:
Total 20 ports
NIC: Mellanox Connectx-2 10g
OS Disks: 2 x Intel 330 60GB, mdadm RAID1
Storage Disks:
Seven shucked from Best Buy WD easystore externals and two from Amazon as internals.
I originally shucked the Seagates from externals. I have replaced the Seagates as they fail, and I had one fail during this upgrade. Yes, I have had five Seagate failures.
SATA/SAS cables:
OS: Fedora 25 with ZFS for Linux
Cost:
The cost was spread across years. This is more like two builds in one. My old build with the motherboard, memory, heatsink, CPU, and 4tb drives combined with my new 8tb build. With the 4tb drives I have replaced five of nine drives over time, which has driven up the real total cost.
The case is huge, but all the space is nice. You don't feel like you are cramming anything in. I used a Fractal Design R5 for my previous build, and prefer Fractal Design cases to Nanoxia cases. But the biggest Fractal Design case wouldn't quite suit my needs. Even this was a stretch for the Deep Silence 6 case. I wish the Deep Silence 6 had spots to mount 2.5" drives on the back side like the R5. It is a feature I miss.
I have a few issues. The trays and the screw holes on the WD 8tb drives don't match. The WD drives are missing the middle bottom screw holes. My temporary workaround is strong 3M double sticky foam tape with two screws. I may use a drill and drill holes in the sides of the trays. I had to tape down the 2.5" cage, but the drives are so light it is not a big deal.
After building this beast I had the window closed, the door shut, and no room fan for one day. The room was quite warm. I have since opened the window, turned on the fan, and left the door open.
My Kill-a-watt peaked at 450 watts during boot. It idles between 200-220 watts. So I could go back to my AX760 from my previous build with SATA power splitters.
I still have one tray free, but no extra drive or SATA port.
I was originally going to move the four bay 3.5" cage from the Deep Silence 3, but it was just too integrated into the case. I tried adapting it, and it didn't come out well. Even if it had, the bottom tray was going to sit below the lip of the side of the case. So that tray would have been less accessible.
I am currently copying 18tb from the old array to the new array as a burn-in test.
I got the original idea to build with this case from someone else's post. I probably would have just bought another Fractal Design R5, and run two systems otherwise. I have run two systems for storage before, connected them with 10g, and used iSCSI. When I did I used, https://romanrm.net/mhddfs , to merge the filesystems together. I am considering doing the same again.
With the right cages you could probably fit around 26 3.5" drives in this case.
Over time I have gone from 250gb to 500gb to 1tb to 1.5tb to 2tb to 4tb to 8tb drives. I didn't think I would be upgrading to 8tb anytime soon, until the Best Buy easystore deal. In the past I mostly purchased on Black Fridays. In more recent years externals from Costco.
TLDR: I built a new server combining an existing 24TiB ZFS with a new array of 36TiB ZFS for the win!
It's back! Shuckable with WD Red model# WD80EFZX inside.
btw, here are some pics from r/datahoarder of the 4tb version being shucked.
As a general rule of thumb:
(5 years)(3 years, as /u/boxsterguy pointed out), are meant for NAS storage, e.g. constant read/write. Can be used fine in a normal computer as a standard drive as well.All in all, the general difference between the drives are very small and won't matter much in most cases. The biggest difference will be price. You need to decide what is most important to you, and find what fits your budget.
If it were me, I would probably watch for some sales on the 8TB Red Drives.
8x 8TB WD Red in a Synology DS1817+
edit -:
At least for the US amazon has them cheaper across the board, http://www.amazon.com/Red-8TB-Hard-Disk-Drive/dp/B01BYLY4DMHad to sign in to see sale prices? Oops.
You can often find the Duo 16TB for 500 USD, where on amazon a single 8TB red is like 337.
https://smile.amazon.com/16TB-Desktop-External-Drive-WDBLWE0160JCH-NESN/dp/B01B6BN1CU/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1485726434&sr=8-6&keywords=8TB+red
https://smile.amazon.com/Red-8TB-Hard-Disk-Drive/dp/B01BYLY4DM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1485726434&sr=8-1&keywords=8TB+red
So in this case buying a Duo saves you ~170USD. However the disks inside only have a 2yr warranty vs 3 for the whole thing. But for that price, You could probably get a separate thirdparty warranty.
Let's compare Apples to Apples (Red Pro to Iron Wolf Pro)
Hard Disk | US price | In my country (India)
---|---|----
WD Red 8TB NAS Hard Drive (WD80EFZX) | $259.00 | ₹32,499.00 ($499.95)
WD Red Pro 8TB NAS Hard Drive (WD8001FFWX) | $309.79 | ₹30,587.94 ($470.75)
Seagate 8TB IronWolf Pro (ST8000NE0004) | $315.54 | ₹34.990 ($538.27)
Looks like it's actually cheaper for you to buy the WD Red Pros than the non-Pros in India? Seagate was offering $50 off per drive, which makes them cheaper than WD Red Pros but pretty much no one here needs Pro drives. That's where they missed the buck, in my opinion.
They looked and made decisions on the data rather than the community. Granted, we all took their poll and generated that data for them, but they should have weighed the topics more heavily where we all talk and enjoy plain and simple Reds. Had this sale been for the regular IronWolf, I'm sure there would have been significant amounts of praise; I definitely would have bought some.
Granted, some people would have complained that it's still not close to the price of a "shucked WD Red" but really, $50 off an IronWolf 8TB drive would put it ~$62 under the regular WD Red 8TB drive. For a ~$12 difference I'll still buy Reds but for a difference of ~$62 or more? I'll purchase Seagate.
The previous posting suggests they are and contain https://www.amazon.com/Red-8TB-Hard-Disk-Drive/dp/B01BYLY4DM -- I'll find out in a little over a week
I would think you'd be much better off just using 3.5" drives. Yes, the 2.5s are physically smaller, but it's far less expensive to use a few large full sized drives, and they'd be more reliable. You'd only need 6 8TB drives to match your current storage, and that's few enough to fit in a regular sized computer case.
8TB reds are on sale right now for $0.033/GB: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01BYLY4DM/
Thanks Amazon just dropped to £236.00 have to wait till the 8th though.
https://uk.camelcamelcamel.com/WD-WD80EFZX-Network-Attached-Storage/product/B01BYLY4DM?context=search
You never know might be a sign of things to come!
I've never seen one of these threads, so my build is not new, but I'm game to join in.
Last year, I built this NAS that serves as my Plex machine: https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/drop.emily.st/DSC02173.jpg
I built it from
I can't remember how much it all ran at the time, but it was something a little over a thousand. I installed CentOS on it, and the hard disk drives are using a ZFS filesystem.
I saw your other post, so i cant really speak to european amazon and other etailers, but in the US at least, stock levels, shipping times, total selection, selection of other things for one stop shopping, customer service reputation if there is a problem... With amazon about 50% of my orders come the next day, 95% within two, for free basically if i wanna lump Prime in with Netflix and Hulu.
http://smile.amazon.com/Red-8TB-Hard-Disk-Drive/dp/B01BYLY4DM/
"Want it Sunday, April 23? Order within 7 hrs 18 mins"
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822235063
Ignoring that amazon actually IS cheaper right now, neweggs free shipping is 4-7 business days, and i havent personally dealt with their CS in a long long time, ive heard its gone to shit.
https://smile.amazon.com/MSI-X370-GAMING-PRO-CARBON/dp/B06WGS4FJL $175 to my door tomorrow.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=13-144-017 $184 to my door by next friday, and i cant get dog food and mouthwash with it.
EDIT:And this is is another factor for me but doesnt apply to everyone, i also get 5% back on my credit card on all amazon purchases.
Camelcamelcamel is usually pretty about tracking prices on Amazon and third party sites. Shows pretty steady prices over the last 6 months:
https://camelcamelcamel.com/Red-8TB-Hard-Disk-Drive/product/B01BYLY4DM?context=search
Drop in any Amazon ID to check history.
On my editing machine, I have a 1TB Samsung Evo Pro as my 'work drive' which houses my active projects. I used to use a cheaper Sandisk drive but it gets so much stress that I kept burning them out.
I keep my OS and programs on a separate 248GB Samsung Evo Pro, and I also have a cheapo 128GB SSD for a cache disk.
I then keep a 'hot storage' archive which is a RAID'ed NAS with 8 x 4TB WD RED drives. I use the Synology DS1815+ which has been incredible.
Every 4 months, I back everything up on cold (i.e. uninstalled) 8TB RED drives. Down the line I'll probably offload the 4TBs and use the existing 8TBs as part of a RAID array.
I really try not to use my RAID for editing unless I'm in a real jam. It works fine actually, I just don't like to put unnecessary stress on it.
My archive system is worth more than my two main cameras, but it completely makes sense to me to invest in a bulletproof archival system.
Case (includes dual PSU, integrated SAS2 backplane, and cooling):
http://www.compsource.com/pn/CSE847BAR1K28LPB/Supermicro-428/Superchassis-847bar1k28lpb-black-Cse847bar1k28lpb/
Disks:
36 x https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01BYLY4DM
Motherboard (Includes LSI SAS3 flashable to passthrough mode for ZFS):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182930
CPU (high thread speed for fast SMB performance):
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MU046J4
RAM (128GB for decent ZFS ARC for 200TB):
4x http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147381
Case: $1520
Disks: $11,556
Mobo: $377
CPU: $308
RAM: $620
Total: $14,381
Use some ZFS system like FreeNAS and configure the disks in 3 12-disk RAIDZ3 vdevs.
This would give 216TB of usable space and a good amount of redundancy. 128GB of RAM should provide a good amount of performance.
I live in Europe, Netherlands to be exact, and their HDD prices are extremely rarely nr.1. That is without transaction fees, and with Germany's lower VAT of 19% vs my country's 21%. If I'd add the 3% CC fee (because that's the only way to pay; Amazon Pay via direct bank transfer is not available for residents of countries that haven't got a domestic Amazon establishment), then it's even less competitive. Also shipping and RMA is faster and easier with domestic etailers versus Amazon.de's. So totally no incentive to order HDDs from Amazon.
For example:
8TB red:
https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/493853/wd-red-wd80efzx-8tb.html
https://www.amazon.de/Festplatte-interner-Speicher-optimiert-WD80EFZX/dp/B01BYLY4DM
4TB red:
https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/347909/wd-red-wd40efrx-4tb.html
https://www.amazon.de/Festplatte-interner-Speicher-optimiert-WD40EFRX/dp/B00EHBERSE
Again: add 3% atop Amazon prices.
wow great deal, the harddrive alone is 286$
https://www.amazon.com/Red-8TB-Hard-Disk-Drive/dp/B01BYLY4DM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1492640035&sr=8-1&keywords=WD80EFZX
I am presently right now installing mine in my synology NAS. Two 8Tb :)
I just opened mine up. Both reds. Same model number as: https://www.amazon.com/Red-8TB-Hard-Disk-Drive/dp/B01BYLY4DM
https://i.imgur.com/cAlHuex.jpg
Both? It is a WD Red 8TB drive that is designed for NAS storage with SATAIII(6.0Gbp/s) connection.
I've seen those on latest reviews on Amazon.com actually. Reviews here .
Link1 , Link2 , [Link3, this is for blue] (http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-2124394/brand-western-digital-hdd-caught-fire.html).
To be honest I thought this is someone doing bad PR for WD. I've never had issues with them but I've never build a big storage with multiple spinning pieces. And I want to know the risks.
They contain WD Red drives, which are do better in a RAID/NAS than traditional drives. An 8TB red drive is usually about this price.
So cost to store movie if you borrowed all your blurays from your neighbor....
Total = 1700$
 
Now raid and movies...
 
 
Being a bit more realistic...
You dont really need 800 movies... lets say RAID10 with 2x 8tb drives that would give you (8000gb)
> the disk space alone to store 15 Terabytes per year is prohibitive.
Not at all. 8 TB drives are already available at $250. That makes 15 TB of additional storage each year cost $40 per month.
I bought the same drive ( https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01BYLY4DM) a few months ago and it was packaged exactly the same way. And a few years ago bought multiple RED's shipped from USA packaged in exactly the same way, small boxes inside of a larger box inside padding.
Where do you see that?
8 TB Easy Store $199.00
8 Tb WD Red (which is in the easy store) $288.00
Also, the Seagate 8TB externals (which generally carry the Archive drives) are the same way. Over $200 for the bare drive and $170 External.
Yeah and to make matters worse it's running over a usb 2.0 connection. I bought a usb 3.0 card to throw in to the server but if you want the USB port on the card to power your device you have to connect a SATA power cable to it, which I don't have available in the server. So I have to use an externally powered enclosure. I just ordered a WD RED 8TB and this USB 3.0 enclosure so hopefully that solves the speed issue.
The price went up on these recently, but I'm looking to level-up and get two WD Red series 8 TB HDDs (around $300 each so $600 total) and set them up at RAID 1 for redundancy. So that's 8 TB of data that are safe if one drive fails. This should last me at least 5 years as a shitty-pro/super enthusiast. I call this "hurricane proof" because I took one drive with me last year when I evacuated Key West from Irma and gave the other drive to my wife to store in her bunker at work (she stayed as a meteorologist), but it's not "fire proof" - in that if there's a random event that destroys the computer, I lose everything. A third backup online like BackBlaze is most ideal.
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The WD Red series are optimized for storage backup and NAS setups. I'm planning to put them in my main rig and just turn them off after 30 minutes of inactivity and use them exclusively for storage with no software installed there, but they're designed to be on 24/7 so it's nbd to leave them on. I have a pair of Caviar Blacks that have been going strong for years.
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You can save some cash by going with Segate, and you can save some cash with a smaller size, but I personally recommend either a RAID configuration or Backblaze. Definitely pick one. It really really sucks when you lose all of your photos, personal music, grad school research, etc. because you put off a smart backup plan.
Não diferenciam tanto?
Gosto da PCDIGA, mas há componentes que compensa comprar fora.
Vamos a um exemplo de comprei esta semana: HD WD RED 8Tb.
Na amazon.de: 294 euros + 8 euros de portes = 304 euros.
https://www.amazon.de/Festplatte-interner-Speicher-optimiert-WD80EFZX/dp/B01BYLY4DM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1497493560&sr=8-1&keywords=wd+8tb+red
Na PCDIGA: 339 euros.
Se pesquisar todos os componentes de um PC completo a diferença acumula e compensa comprar fora.
Thanks very much!!
> You don't really need 2 parity drives if your array is not that large. What are the chances of 2 drives failing out of 6 at the same time?
Ok the 2 parity drives was mostly because I plan to "re-use" all my current external 2.5 drives (between 2 and 4TB of storage per drive) into it till they die and replace them with 3.5 (or if I just need more space). And honestly, I have no idea if they are "good" or not. The unRaid "cleaning/set to 0" feature might say they have some errors on it. So I would know if they are potentially prone to failure from start and not put good data on it. (unless the feature tells me that I should not use this disk at all? All this is pretty new to me).
Overall, as I said, I am new to all Raid/unRaid systems. So I need to understand better how to detect when a drive needs to be replaced right away.
> here's what I'd suggest [...]
THANKS a lot! That's the kind of advice I am looking for right now!
Is there a mobo you recommend? I saw you can add a PCIexp card with the SATA connectors. But if you have a mobo that includes that that will be better! You case seems pretty small and cute. My aim was maybe go with a bigger one just to be able to expand as much as I want but I might just go with a small one indeed and trust you guys on a choice of just having 6 drives in it.
I did research a bit before, and I saw that for the RAM I need ECC RAM.
Any specific fan I need for the processor?
else I was reading this post about a hard drive: https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/7fx0i0/wd_easystore_8tb_compendium/ but I went to my local best buy yesterday and they don't have any of these promo, and this "NEBB VS NESN" is kind of annoying to figure out. It seems a gamble from what I understand, unless I am ready to order the drive from Amazon directly. So much to experiment I am excited!
awesome. thanks so much for the detailed response. it really helps to ease some of my concerns. i think i might want to put in a 4-8 TB HD as well as the SSD. i have quite a bit of media, and having an "all in one" machine (instead of swapping external hard drives constantly) would be ideal.
I was thinking this HD:
https://www.amazon.com/Red-8TB-Hard-Disk-Drive/dp/B01BYLY4DM/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1511478568&sr=1-3&keywords=8+tb+hard+drive
A SSD (500 or 1TB) and another stick of RAM. I would probably still be good with the current power supply setup, right?
EDIT:
Maybe this drive, since the other one is set up for NAS...or would that still be ok even without a NAS setup? I need to research a bit more :)
https://www.amazon.com/Desktop-Drive-5400RPM-Cache-WD60EZRZ/dp/B013HNYVCE/ref=sr_1_6?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1511479745&sr=1-6&keywords=8%2Btb%2Bhard%2Bdrive&refinements=p_89%3AWestern%2BDigital&th=1
EDIT EDIT: i think i might buy this external:
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/wd-easystore-8tb-external-usb-3-0-hard-drive-black/5792401.p?skuId=5792401
and shuck it to add to this pc...seems way better price wise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6VCQ64DkfM