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u/amemut · 19 pointsr/answers

Hmm...This is a fun one. It's so so very wrong, but it's a good opportunity to learn some stuff.

  • quod is not the Latin word for "the". "quod" is a relative pronoun, like English "which" or "that". Coincidentally, it can also mean "because". It definitely does not mean "the".
  • Classical Latin doesn't have definite articles, but later certain demonstrative pronouns became the definite article in Romance languages. The right word to use here, if you really want a definite article, is "ille", which is the ancestor of Spanish "el" and French "le". So Jesus ille Christus, by analogy with one of my favorite books.
  • The thing is, Jesus didn't know Latin. At all. The Eastern Roman Empire spoke Greek, and this is the language that was used to write the gospels. In Greek, his name would be: Ἰησοῦς ὁ χριστός (Iesous Ho Christos), so his middle initial would be an h ... sort of. Greek has these weird things called "breathings" or "spiritus (asper/lenis)", which indicate whether a word beginning with a vowel would also begin with an h or with nothing...we think. There is still debate about what the spiritus actually did phonetically. H is close enough. ΙὁΧ (I-ho-Ch)
  • Except that Jesus probably didn't speak much Greek either. Greek was the language of the Roman overlords. His native language was Aramaic, which is a Semitic language related to Hebrew and unrelated to Indo-European languages (maybe). It was something of a lingua franca in the Levant in Jesus' time. The Aramaic definite article was a bound suffix, so there is no real way to represent it in an abbreviation.

    Εδιτ I originally wrote ΙΗΧ instead of ΙὁΧ, which is wrong because it replaces omicron + spiritus asper with eta.
u/nisiamo · 5 pointsr/PenmanshipPorn

I feel ya -- mediaeval Latin is hilarious when writers get inventive with vocabulary and grammar, but any more Augustine and I might cry. This is 'Winnie Ille Pu' translated by Alexander Lenard (I bought my copy used in a bookstore, but it's available here on Amazon). Have a go at the Latin versions of Harry Potter and The Hobbit as well!

u/robertskmiles · 3 pointsr/logophilia

Makes sense, since ille is the third person pronoun in Latin.

It's also used as the definite article colloquially, as in Winnie Ille Pu.

Edit: By the way Julius Caesar is terrible for this, his whole De Bello Gallico is written in the third person, which makes parts of it really hilarious. There's this bit where he's invading Britain, and they leave their ships at anchor at low tide, and then the tide comes in and the ships are all pinned to the sea floor by their anchors so they sink. And there's this whole spiel about how "Caesar could not have known about the tides" and "Caesar couldn't possibly be blamed" for losing the majority of his ships to a dumb mistake and leaving his troops stranded in hostile territory without any supplies for the winter. And you feel like saying "We know it is you writing this, Caesar. Stop pretending to be impartial, Caesar. Your name is right on the front of the book dude.". It's fair enough, tides in The English Channel are much bigger than the tides in the Med, but we know he was using auxiliaries recruited from Gaul, who must have known about the tides. I don't know what's funnier, the idea that the auxiliaries warned them about the tide and were ignored, or the idea that the auxiliaries failed to mention it in a spectacular act of trolling.

u/chupacabrando · 2 pointsr/latin

There's quite a few, actually. I'm personally acquainted with Winnie Ille Pu and Ferdinandus Taurus. You've got hope that they like the stories, I suppose, and there certainly aren't as many as there are in English, but there's plenty.

Actually, here's Amazon's "childrens' books translated into Latin" section. Lots of Dr. Seuss available.

u/raendrop · 1 pointr/answers

> The right word to use here, if you really want a definite article, is "ille", which is the ancestor of Spanish "el" and French "le". So Jesus ille Christus, by analogy with one of my favorite books.

I'm happy to be corrected if I'm wrong, but I thought Latin put the demonstrative "ille" after the noun, in much the same way the adjective often comes after the noun in many Romance languages.

u/elizinthemorning · 1 pointr/teaching

On Amazon I found some more Latin translations aside from Harry Potter: