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Completely correct. Every detail described is classic psychopath behavior. It's not treatable and the kid is only getting started on a long career of harming and manipulating people without consequence because of his ability to retain control over every situation.
http://www.amazon.com/Without-Conscience-Disturbing-World-Psychopaths/dp/1572304510
Avoidance of responsibility is a primary characteristic of psychopathy. He ticks off all the other checkmarks, too. Only libel laws are protecting his ass from being called a psychopath openly. Educate yourselves about psychopaths -- I recommend these books I have read to understand my own lifelong contact with psychopaths, starting with my mother:
Without Conscience: The Disturbing World of the Psychopaths Among Us
Snakes in Suits: When Psychopaths Go to Work
Confessions of a Sociopath: A Life Spent Hiding in Plain Sight
The Psychopath Test: A Journey Through the Madness Industry
The Inner World of the Psychopath: A definitive primer on the psychopathic personality
He is commonly called a narcissist, but here's a handy rule of thumb. Not all narcissists are psychopaths, but all psychopaths are narcissistic. It's easy to understand why -- they don't see humans as humans, only objects to be manipulated for fun and profit. They, themselves, are the only conscious being, so nothing else matters. Their brains aren't wired to understand we have minds and memories, which is why they lie constantly to achieve their immediate needs. Strangely, the inability to experience emotions (and that includes fear, which is why Trump seems to never give a fuck about consequences) comes with no sense of past or future. There is only the "now."
1% of the population are psychopaths. You know more than one. Some say it's an evolutionary adaptation that exploits humans with emotions and morals, and that they are "intraspecies predators." There are professions that rely on psychopathic behavior, and you can draw your own opinions on them:
The Wisdom of Psychopaths: What Saints, Spies, and Serial Killers Can Teach Us About Success
It is also commonly said that psychopaths are experts are reading people. This is false (because, to them, there is nothing to read). They are simply experts, from lifelong experience and practice, at putting people into situations with predictable reactions. For example, Trump likes to insult people because he knows it distracts them and takes them off their game as they try to defend themselves. Psychopaths like to do their manipulating in the background and behind peoples' backs (and in Trump's case, behind NDAs and hush money), thus Trump's biggest problem -- he's the world's most watched person and nothing goes unnoticed, so his previous tactics aren't working. He is thrashing more and more as he gets more desperate to deceive. He is not losing his mind or getting senile. He's a psychopath who can't understand why his old tricks are no longer working.
His apparent "humanness" is a practiced façade, as is true for all psychopaths. They learn, starting in childhood, how to fit in. Some learn how better than others. Trump is good enough at it to fool a large number of voters.
BTW, there's nothing saying a psychopath can't also be dumb as a brick or illiterate.
You are spreading misinformation to be honest. You know what one of the hallmarks of sociopathy is? That they are charming. That's right...if you are talking to someone and feel charmed that is a red flag that you could be talking to a sociopath. They're your instant best friend. You have so much in common.
Yes, sociopaths are also impulsive, but that doesn't mean they don't understand image management. In fact, they understand it better than the average person.
Source: http://www.amazon.com/Without-Conscience-Disturbing-World-Psychopaths/dp/1572304510/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1463940400&sr=1-1&keywords=robert+hare+without+conscience
Edit: Personally I wish society thought of psychopaths as con men, instead of axe murderers. Con men seems far more of an accurate description. Movies like American Psychopath reinforce this myth. I think better movies are Catch Me If You Can, Gone Girl, and especially I Love You Phillip Morris. A huge component of psychopathy is their ability to appear to you what you want them to be (conning).
Having spent the last five years on related subjects I feel your anguish.
I spent a full year being chronically depressed. I did graffiti on banks, went to every protest around and yelled at people who just didn't get it (I used to call them sheeple). Essentially I was an asshole. Then again, I was an asshole with a real feeling of unease in relation to my society.
I still have a lot of those same feelings.
I would encourage you to look into 'psychopathy.' This will teach you more about the self-appointed rulers than any Zeitgeist movie (Peter Joseph is kind of a tool - my opinion is based on four years of research). Psychopathy is a fucking game changer. My current model for the U.S. Federal government is the Charles Manson family. You have a psychopath interested in personal glory at the top and a lot of dupes, rubes and true believers following orders.
How do you deal with them?
You cannot combat them directly. In fact any engagement is a waste of time and energy. They are the ultimate energy parasites. They will come after you with guns, lawyers, assassins, police and whatever else they can find. They want attention. Engaging them in any manner is attention. Which is what they want. Ironically you have to ignore them to death.
In order to side-step a rattle snake you must know the behavior patterns, beliefs and values of a rattle snake. With knowledge they're no less dangerous, but you can deal with them in a way that minimizes hazard. Study them.
http://www.amazon.com/Without-Conscience-Disturbing-World-Psychopaths/dp/1572304510
I sleep at night because I'm designing a personal life style to disengage from the current psychopathic government system. I don't give a shit if some are Masons, Illuminati, Zionists, Jews, Satanists, Republicans, atheists or whatever. I just don't fucking care. I want to live my life and I want to be left alone. This is the exact tactic you must employ with a psychopath.
I've personally known a total of eight psychopaths - this is actually kind of a big number. Anyone that I identify as a psychopath is dead to me. I will not give them audience, I will not discuss them [unless it serves education purposes] and I will destroy anything in my life that has anything to do with them directly.
The life plan is to be a good human.
By being the best human you can be you help others to be good too.
If you are a part of the world and you make yourself better -
You are the world, itself, making itself better.
Do something small.
Plant a garden, help someone and learn as much as you can so you can pass it on to others.
Baby steps.
I don't see why this should be strange. Psyochapathy is a condition that inhibits feelings of empathy. It doesn't mean those afflicted cannot experience joy, or have fun at a party. Something like 1 in 30 people are diagnosed with mild or moderate psychopathic behaviour. The serial killers that are portrayed in the media are a tiny, tiny fraction of this population. The destructive behaviour of most of these psyochapaths is much more subtle, usualy in the form of emotional abuse. Psyochapaths are usually master manipulators and have really good social skills.
I'd recommend this book to read more about it: https://www.amazon.ca/Without-Conscience-Disturbing-World-Psychopaths/dp/1572304510
He's a psychopath. That's fucking classic, that is. Read this book if you want to understand why the entire planet's financial systems appear to be managed by total assholes...hint...it's because they ARE:
http://www.amazon.com/Without-Conscience-Disturbing-World-Psychopaths/dp/1572304510
A few graphic novels:
A couple more books that are on my wish list, though i haven't read them yet, are:
Without conscience. It does a great job of describing how some serial killers operate. The book primarily discusses psychopathy (not all serial killers are psychopaths) but its a good read.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1572304510/ref=mw_dp_mdsc?dsc=1&qid=1371050283&sr=1-1
I think it's a two-part process:
Taken together, these things build confidence in your ability to spot and respond to threats, and to recover from them when we inevitably make mistake and let one through. And that's the best you can do: Not invulnerability, not perfect safety, just resilience.
The sad thing is that being one of those guys is a winning strategy. That might be why as many as 4% of the human population are psychopaths: evolutionary argument for psychopathy
Also, Without Conscience
Read Robert Hare's (arguably the world's foremost expert on psychopathy) book Without Conscience. It's a not-too-long, easy to read book on the basics psychological underpinnings of real psychopathy, written by a medcial expert who has been studying the topic for a long time and created the best tool we have to diagnose psychopaths, the Psychopathy Checklist. It's a fascinating read with plenty of real-life scenarios spinkled in to give insight into what it's like to deal with real psychopaths.
The defining (and scariest, to me) characteristic is an inability to connect to others, the inability to feel emotions like shame, love, guilt or empathy. It's almost unimaginable. Can you picture using others as mere pawns for your own selfish goals and be completely unattached to your actions? It's kind of terrifying. To be able to ruin a person's life and feel no more emotion about it than you would, say, washing the dishes? It's a mind fuck.
My understanding is that a sociopath's lack of empathy is rooted primarily, or completely, due to environmental factors while psychopathy is an innate personality defect present from birth, most likely due to genetic or other biological factors.
Here's one site that expands on what I just said above. I've also read Without Conscience: The Disturbing World of the Psychopaths Among Us which summarized the difference this way (this book focuses on psychopathy rather than sociopathy, obviously)
This is a great book by Robert Hare who is a leading expert on Psychopaths.
He says psychopathy is entirely genetic. The type of psychopath you end up with however varies on intelligence. Some are smart enough to know not to break the law, and learn instead to work within it. They may end up your neighbor or the CEO of your company. Others may be stupid like this kid, and resort to violence. But whats similar about both types, is that they see you ultimately as a means to an end and nothing more. They can emulate empathy, but they don't actually have any.
Yeps. Staying single is going to be the best option. Try to find happiness inside yourself. It helps you a lot through life.
I'm sorry you had to go through all that to get to that point. There's a psychopath.free website in case you're interested. I'm really, really sorry.
I hope at least you are cleared of the infection now and physically healthy. It's a good idea to build yourself up first. But, as a part of the build-up, I recommend you to read this:
Website (wonderful):
https://www.psychopathfree.com/
Books:
https://www.amazon.es/Psychopath-Free-Emotionally-Relationships-Narcissists/dp/0425279995/ref=pd_sim_14_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=581FVXY7XHNKKZ253RSN
https://www.amazon.com/Without-Conscience-Disturbing-World-Psychopaths/dp/1572304510
https://www.amazon.es/Sociopath-Next-Door-Ruthless-versus/dp/0767915828/ref=pd_sim_14_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=N54Z9CMYAWS29Z7Z85CB
https://www.amazon.es/Empathy-Trap-Understanding-Antisocial-Personalities/dp/1847092764/ref=pd_sim_14_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=N54Z9CMYAWS29Z7Z85CB
Sorry if I am meddling. I hope you get better, and I hope at least your body is OK now. I really wish you a good return to physical and emotional health. And yes, best thing you can do is learn to live on your own and be happy that way. Maybe when you get to that point someone worthy will appear but... don't count on it. Not everyone is worthy, not everyone is marriage-material, or even long term relationship material, so not everyone can get a married happy-ever after. BUT, everyone can get a happy-ever after if they focus on getting it without depending on other people's decisions.
The psychopath will try to manipulate the INTJ like they do everyone else. The INTJ will be too self-absorbed and/or uninterested, and brush aside the psychopath with a lot of "no's" and "that's nice" (LOL). The psychopath will get angry and frustrated. The INTJ at this point will still not know they're dealing with a psychopath. They just think this person is perhaps a little strange.
If the INTJ is lucky it will end there. These psychopath "things" are unbelievable. Horrific. They are like viruses or alien beings. If the INTJ is unlucky (if they are in a vulnerable position, are weak, or insecure) the psychopath will devastate their lives. A lot of people who are psychopath victims will suffer lasting psychological trauma and deteriorate physically. They are so good at mimicking humans it can take years to detect one.
Here are some books I recommend from best to least best (they are all good):
https://www.amazon.com/Sociopath-Next-Door-Martha-Stout/dp/0767915828/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1467947734&sr=8-1&keywords=martha+stout
https://www.amazon.com/Without-Conscience-Disturbing-World-Psychopaths/dp/1572304510/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1467947736&sr=8-1&keywords=psychopath+hare
https://www.amazon.com/Mask-Sanity-So-Called-Psychopathic-Personality/dp/1614277826/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1467947784&sr=8-1&keywords=mask+of+sanity+cleckley
AMEN. this is such bullshit pop-psychology crap.
I know quite a bit about psychopathy and know at least 2 true psychopaths that tested quite high on the Hare Assessment - PCL-R.
If you want to know more about psychopaths start at the beginning. Robert Hare's book - "Without Concscience" It's fantastic. It will tell you what psychopathy is about, and how to identify it.
Without Conscience
then read - "Snakes In Suits - When psychopaths go to work" - which talks about how psychopaths do VERY well in our corporate structure, where acting without remorse can run parallel to acting on behalf of the company.
Stop reading crap like this. they couldn't even say what the whole "no feeling, uncaring" thing is actually called - its called "shallow affect"
One thing that is of interest is true psychopaths lack "anticipation" - they don't "ramp up" to prepare for something - it happens, they react, its gone. there is no rise or fall to the moment.
I've always had a personal theory that at some time in the past psychopaths made fierce powerful warriors, giving them the ability to do what others could not. when the mind has a psychotic break it actually physically alters itself and never changes back. Its as if this horrible state of no feeling was there to continue the species on some level.
A psychopath views you as a person as a means to an end. How you feel about a mailbox, or garbage can, or wooden door - is how they often can feel about people and living things. Image looking at your world that way - where these things around you are just that..."things". why not kick one? that thing is in the way? - move it out of the way. so on and so on.
here - this is a interview with Tommy Lynn Sells - considered a "perfect" psychopath. they estimate he's killed 70+ people - he's chilling.
Tommy Lynn Sells
>I'll just say that there must be a hell of a lot of maniacs running around.
There are. Also you can see that the number of 21,000 you quoted doesn't require a 1:1 ratio of murderers to victims.
>A 2008 study using the Psychopathy Checklist: Screening Version (PCL: SV) found that 1.2% of a US sample scored 13 or more which indicates "potential psychopathy".
If you're interested in this subject I have some suggestions:
Killer In Clowntown: Joe Doherty,The IRA and the Relationship by Martin Dillon
The Shankill Butchers: A Case Study of Mass Murder
also by Martin Dillon
Without Conscience: The Disturbing World of the Psychopaths Among Us by Robert D. Hare
The Psychopath Test by Jon Ronson
Them by Jon Ronson
The Baader-Meinhof Complex by Stephan Aust
The Demon Lover: The Roots Of Terrorism by Robin Morgan
Without Conscience: The Disturbing World of the Psychopaths Among Us
Sounds apt to me. I recommend reading that book, knowing your enemies helps you be on the lookout for people that will put a knife in your back the first chance they get.
Yes, I disagree.
I have met and had dealings with a couple of individuals of this sort, and they are incapable of change - psychopaths in short
Its actually not that hard to make that judgement - previous criminal record, how many prior attempts have been made at rehab, but most of all the Hare Psychopathy Checklist which is a good diagnostic tool and coupled with the other information I would have no compunction about making judgements based on that whatsoever
I suggest reading this
Psychopaths, in addition to not having much of a conscience, also tend to be impulsive and not that interested in long term planning.
There's an interesting book on the subject "Without Conscience" by Robert Hare. Here's the link if you're interested.
Last year I became obsessed with the concept of psychopathy.
I read Without Conscience: The Disturbing World of Psychopaths Among Us which is more of a general look at psychopaths. It talks about what makes them tick, how devastating an encounter with them can be and psychopathic children. It showed the more horror-film version of psychopathy.
Without Conscience was a scary book but the next book on psychopathy I read, Snakes in Suits, had more terrifying implications by far. Snakes in Suits suggests that the vast majority of psychopaths are not like Dahmer or Hannibal Lectar but are actually in major positions of power in large corporations at a greatly disproportional rate to psychopaths in the general population.
In short, SiS suggests that the most intelligent psychopaths are drawn to white collar jobs with extremely high stakes, earnings, power and prestige. They excel in these jobs because they're extremely intelligent, utterly unscrupulous, manipulative, able to read people's body language and they're smart enough to hide any tracks of ill deeds to avoid trouble with the law.
I couldn't help but think of that book when I saw this article. Sure, he might have just been having a bad day and taken it out on his dog but maybe it's something more sinister.
I read Robert Hare's book. It was really interesting.
Sorry for the delay. Whatever you want to call them, trolls, bullies, con-artists, terrorists, etc, people with aggression issues make up at least 10% of the population.
Wikipedia: Warrior Gene
http://saferelationshipsmagazine.com
bullyonline.org
Love Fraud
neurologicalcorrelates.com
psychopathfree.com
C. Nathan DeWall, Ph.D., University of Kentucky Social Psychology Lab
Director
Books:
Snakes in Suits, Paul Babiak & Robert D. Hare
Without Conscience, Robert D. Hare
The Sociopath Next Door, Martha Stout
Just Like His Father, Liane Leedom
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Recommended book: Without Conscience, by Robert Hare
Without Conscience: The Disturbing World of the Psychopaths Among Us. He has a more recent book focusing on white-collar psychopathy ("Snakes in Suits") and lots of books for academic audiences. It was about fifteen years ago that I read it, so fingers crossed the passage is close to what I remember ;)
These are good points, especially regarding the mask of sanity. I have 5 decades of experience with these individuals, so I can say this with confidence: You will never be able to rationalize with these individuals, make gains, or be able to reform them. You can expect a life of endless abuse, manipulation and exploitation if you engage with them long term and privately. They do not get better with psychiatric intervention, in fact, they get worse. This book is a good primer: https://www.amazon.com/Without-Conscience-Disturbing-World-Psychopaths/dp/1572304510
I highly recommend that people extricate themselves as soon as possible from psychopaths in their family. We don't fully understand this disorder, but we know it is highly genetic and until we can figure out a way to fix these genes, we won't be able to have safe relationships with them. There is no medication for this disorder. There is no therapy for this disorder. There is simply currently no fix.
Burgeoning psychopath
Read [here] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hare_Psychopathy_Checklist) and get [this] (http://www.amazon.com/Without-Conscience-Disturbing-World-Psychopaths/dp/1572304510)
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What you're dealing with:
>Without Conscience - Dr. Hare
>On Bullshit - H. Frankfurt
Their methods:
>48 Laws of Power - R. Greene
>The Art of War - the Sam B. Griffin translation is the best
A bad popularization of sociopaths. This book is much much better: http://www.amazon.com/Without-Conscience-Disturbing-World-Psychopaths/dp/1572304510/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1343705177&sr=1-1&keywords=hare+psychopath
This is a really ignorant statement. People with a propensity for cruelty and violence (psychopaths, violent criminals) make terrible soldiers precisely because they're impulsive, have bad judgement and no respect for authority.
There's a section in the book the Without Conscience that discusses this exact point quite succinctly.
I studied Psychology in my undergrad, with a focus on psychopathic qualities with hands on research at a local prison!
These two 1 and 2 are some that I have enjoyed reading!
Shaynoodle is damn sexy
Another great book on the subject is Without Conscience: The Disturbing World of the Psychopaths Among Us
https://www.amazon.com/Without-Conscience-Disturbing-World-Psychopaths/dp/1572304510
Here is a link to the book without all the Amazon tracking crap.
Good book on the subject, written by the author of the test used to diagnose psychopaths: http://www.amazon.com/Without-Conscience-Disturbing-World-Psychopaths/dp/1572304510
As I said, it's a pet subject.
And then I was asked for my take on it, which I gave.
And you didn't entirely read it, because I said that there aren't that many sociopaths but it doesn't take many to make a mess.
Also, what is that I am an "outsider" of, exactly?
And your grammar sucks.
You live up to your Reddit name.