(Part 2) Best refrigerators according to redditors
We found 75 Reddit comments discussing the best refrigerators. We ranked the 36 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the products ranked 21-40. You can also go back to the previous section.
From here one hour of video ~ 128 MiB = 134.2 megabytes (Am I doing this right so far?). 100 years is 876,000 hours so that is 117,559,200 megabytes or 117.6 terabytes of data per day uploaded. (As an aside this is larger than the entire Library of Congress library data)
An apple 1 TB drive has a weight of 1.6 kg (yes, I know there are bigger and more efficient drives out there but they don't post their weight online). A typical fridge in the US is 22 cubic feet. This one weighs 280 lbs or 127 kg meaning that 1.47 Fridge-weights of video are uploaded every day.
Alternately, the apple drive has a volume of 0.05 cubic feet, meaning that 0.27 Fridge-volumes of video are uploaded every day.
*edit: lol
Huh, I'm surprised these aren't known (and expensive) over there. this was the standard here in the 80's, called a "hybelkjøkken". Hybel means small apartment, often in someone's house, and kjøkken is kitchen. My brother has one in his basement which he rents out, and we have one at work, in the break room.
You can get one for $400
Here's one on Amazon for $6-700: https://www.amazon.com/Avanti-Complete-Compact-Kitchen-Refrigerator/dp/B018EZO8FK
Oh wow.... I can't imagine that situation. I really hope you're able to get your mom into an apartment with your GM and YS, because it seems that sharing with your brother and his friends is the most stable and ideal roommate situation. Everyone pays rent and their share of bills, and cleans up after themselves. Hell, you could even buy colored plates/dishes and each person is only allowed to use their color...so if they don't wash theirs then they have nothing to eat from! Also, is your mom paying additional money towards bills because of YS? Your rent and utilities should be split so you + DH are paying 2/7, brother 1/7, friend 1/7, and mom 3/7 for her plus YS and GM.
ETA: You should not be paying for everyone's groceries! Get a lock for your room and keep your food in there, hell, even get a mini-fridge if you can afford it. Amazon has one on sale for $115 that has a fridge and freezer. You'll save that much money in a month by not feeding everyone. Get into the "every man for themselves" mentality and save yourself from taking care of everyone in the home.
Just to add to the fridge idea, I got one from Avanti that uses a technology they call "superconductor". It is a stupid name, since obviously no superconductors are involved, but I like it.
Instead of the traditional (and loud) compressor, it uses a peltier element, however it combines that with refrigerant lines to make it much more efficient than traditional thermoelectric fridges. The hot side of the peltier boils the refrigerant, it rises, and then cools and falls down the other side of the tubes where it zig-zags back and forth while it cools down. In this way, the refrigerant flows through the tubes, but there is no compressor or pump actually pushing it.
The main advantage of this setup is that it is quiet. The refrigerant is flowing only through heating up and cooling down, so there is no compressor to roar. I was really worried about having a compressor cycling on/off right at my desk, and this solves that nicely. The only real moving part to make any noise is a small fan on the inside of the fridge. It ends up just sounding similar to a fan in a computer, so it blends right in. There is no start/stop at all, as it just runs continuously and throttles up/down as necessary.
There are a number of models using this technology, but here is one example at a nice price point:
http://www.pcrichard.com/Avanti/Avanti-1-7-Cu-Ft-Compact-Refrigerator-Stainless-Steel-w-Black-Sides/SHP1702SS.pcrp
Star rating looks low on that page, but reading the reviews the main complaint seems to be that it was smashed in shipping, so not actually a fault of the fridge itself. Here's a fridge that appears to only be different in color, and has a nice high rating, but Amazon's price is quite a bit higher than pcrichard:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0045ALLYA
I paid $80 and I've had mine 3 years now and I'm happy with it. Current temp is 3 C (temp knob is roughly at 50%) and current power draw is 65 watts (continuous, no cycling). If/when it does break, I figure the fan is the most likely part to go and I can probably figure out how to replace that on my own. I haven't taken it apart, but just peering through the grill it appears to be a standard form factor 40mm fan like you'd find inside a computer.
Running a fridge like this will generally cost you around $5-6 a month in electricity.
This is the lowest energy consumption botton-freezer refrigerator in Energy Star: https://www.amazon.com/Avanti-FFBM102D0W-Bottom-Freezer-Refrigerator/dp/B013G786PO
It uses 370 kwh/year.
For the same price and size (narrower but taller) you get this in Europe: https://tiendas.mediamarkt.es/p/frigorifico-combi-balay-3kf6650mi-302-l-1367331#specifications
235 kwh/year.
So, basically, the most average fridge would have better energy efficiency than the most efficient Energy Star fridge in America. But, if you want to spend €629 (about $750) you get a way larger fridge (12.5 ft3) that uses 183 kwh/year!!!!!
https://tiendas.mediamarkt.es/p/frigorifico-combi-samsung-rb37j506msa-no-1382636#specifications
So basically what I say, it's not about mentality or anything. American appliances are designed worse and consume more electricity for no reason, because we have the technology and sometimes the brands are even the same (Samsung, for example).
I'd start buying fresh fruit once a week to complement and sometimes replace the McDonald's and Taco Bell. I think that's the bare minimum.
Other than that I would get some sort of cooking facilities- maybe a crock pot as suggested elsewhere or a countertop oven and hotplate- probably better if you can get them combined. If I had room, and cash, after that then I might also want a minifridge. It's an expensive outlay initially but would save a lot of money in the long run as well as improve diet considerably.
I have tested real life refrigerators for a school project (around 2001). The worst one used 7.x KWh/day(build in the 1970s), the best 2.7KWh/d(late 90s).
My newest fridge(100€ after a bit of searching) uses 0.7(lab setting) and less then 2KWh/d in real life.
The older those thing gets, the less energy efficient they become. Insulation deteriorates, cycle loses coolant, rubber seal in the door ages, hinges might become unhinged. And there is the increased efficiency. The difference in energy consumption between a 20yr old fridge and a new one will be a lot more than 1KWh/d. (and then test that for an american style feed-a-family-of-12-monster).
There is nothing troublesome about it. The difference is so stark, you can see it with the naked eye. Please don't use fridges made before 2000.
>Investors are bitching about that, but we should be OK that personal income has been stagnant for a decade.
I didn't say you had to be okay with it, I just tried to set an approximate timeline for the trend you were claiming existed. Besides, "stagnant" to me implies no motion, when the graph clearly shows that real median personal income has been increasing pretty quickly since it bottomed out in 2012 and is on its way to hitting an all-time high. Again, I'm in favor of redistributing gains so that they're Pareto efficient when doing so is practical and beneficial.
> And while I agree with growing the pie, I just don't see how the mighty get mightier and then agree to income redistribution.
I think it's important to design systems of government (and support reforms towards one) so that things like this are less likely to happen (there's a good book that gets into similar subjects called Why Nations Fail), but I don't think it's unreasonable to believe that it's possible to do these things in the US. Consider how different the world might be if the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact had been enacted years ago. It's also worth considering that the wealthiest, most densely populated areas of the country tend not to support the party famous for opposing redistribution.
>I use refrigerators as an example of this. You will notice that companies are coming out with $3000 to $5000 refrigerators with computers and LCD screens in them. Why? Because they realize that people making $50k a year can't afford a new refrigerator.
As far as I can tell, none of these things are correct.
>I don't want people to need safety nets.
By providing safety nets, you give people the freedom to leave dead-end unproductive jobs, retrain, and find useful work. This, in turn, is a good way to prevent them from needing safety nets. Nobody wants people to have to rely on safety nets, but there are plenty of reasons to have them available when people don't have a choice.
The money a company gets to pay its employees doesn't come out of nowhere; it only exists if that company can convince people to give it money in exchange for something those people value more than said money.
If you give everyone money no matter what they're doing, your economy (and your government) will eventually be dedicating so much capital and labor to useless things that it will collapse. You may be able to pay horse-and-buggy drivers, farmers, candlemakers, coal miners, and scribes for a few years, but the outside world is going to (not literally, but you get the idea) invent cars, modern agricultural techniques, light bulbs, other energy sources, and the printing press whether you allow those things into your country or not.
>People using safety nets have no buying power
You can really trivially design e.g. a NIT to give them exactly the buying power you think they should have without ever introducing a poverty trap (a point at which earning more money causes them to lose money because of the loss of benefits).
Smeg has a fridge that looks similar, if you're willing to spend $3,000
I saw this on solarbaby.org:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002EOZF2S/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B002EOZF2S&linkCode=as2&tag=solbab-20
Seemed pretty pricey at almost $1200, but supposedly draws about as much as a laptop or an incandescent light bulb.
If you are even a little handy, you should be able to replace it with something like this one.
https://smile.amazon.com/Whirlpool-4318046-Refrigerator-Maker-Valve/dp/B00DM8JGR0/
I did it recently on an Amana also and everything went pretty smoothly because the kit has the tubing ends you need as well as any fittings. The only modification I had to make was the mounting bracket had to be bent a little.
By the way, on my Amana, there is a light where you get water. It took me a few years before I realized that.
http://imgur.com/a/5WLum5N I found the picture with the new valve getting installed.
Smeg makes some cool (but very expensive) ones.
https://www.amazon.com/Smeg-FAB28UCRL1-Top-Freezer-Refrigerator-Compartment/dp/B00YOUDMQ6
Nick! Thanks for the quick and thorough reply.
>We are going to fit another fridge this fall and so will also need to add another 200-400w of solar to keep us energy neutral.
Are you looking to build a fridge with a plate, or buy an off the shelf fridge? For what it's worth, I have this in my Jeep. It pulls about 70ah in the summer at around 110f in the summer if the Jeep is closed up and not in use. If you have an ambient temp of ~70f, I pull about 65ah and 60ah with an insulated blanket. I have a cheapo 100watt flexible solar panel that keeps an aux battery that powers led lights, and the fridge always topped off, even in the winter when I only get about 8 hours of daylight that's mostly overcast. It will keep things frozen solid. I've been thinking of ripping it's guts out and building an insulated box.
This is a tough one, as someone else has mentioned, it might be a little tough to do it on a budget of $300-$400... The solar panels and batteries could end up more than that. If you're going to end up with a system like that, you might as well just go all out.
This is 4x the cost yes, but as far a prep goes, they can keep food for longer as well. An actual DC refrigerator that is compressor driven and operates on 12V/24V will be more efficient and reliable. In terms of systems it would be more or less the same minimum specs.
200W-230W Solar (single panel)
300Ah 12v battery
https://www.amazon.com/VoltRay-6-1-Cu-Solar-Refrigerator/dp/B017MV6BF2/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1527519784&sr=8-2&keywords=voltray+refrigerator
Those of us who aren't trying to be bourgeosie about our appliances, and just need something serviceable that is reliable have something more like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Whirlpool-WRT311FZDW-White-Freezer-Refrigerator/dp/B00QGAHGWI/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1OWFBXEN8IYES&keywords=refrigerator&qid=1565487002&refinements=p_n_feature_five_browse-bin%3A3515404011%2Cp_36%3A2673999011&rnid=2673993011&s=appliances&sprefix=refri%2Caps%2C201&sr=1-1
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The item I want
GE PSE26KSESS Profile 25.9 Cu. Ft. Stainless Steel Side-By-Side Refrigerator - Energy Star by GE http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EZ2BB6G/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_YACwtb0A1ZTJD