Best barebone pc according to redditors
We found 342 Reddit comments discussing the best barebone pc. We ranked the 118 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the top 20.
We found 342 Reddit comments discussing the best barebone pc. We ranked the 118 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the top 20.
I didn’t design or write the code for this, just followed the instructions for the Raspberry Pi project created by u/RushShirtKid and explained in this post on r/baseball. Direct link to the instructions here (but wouldn't hurt to at least glance through the r/baseball post for some good info). Would highly recommend if you want to tackle a small, straightforward project!
Edit: some additional info- it doesn't have to just show one game, you can have it cycle through all the games, or cycle through other games only during inning breaks, or customize it a bunch of other ways!
Edit 2:
You'll see in the instructions there are multiple options as far as parts, so it's up to you which direction you want to go. But if you're curious, these are all the parts I used:
Raspberry Pi 3 B+ w/Power Supply
5V Power Supply for the LED Matrix
64x32 RGB LED Matrix, 5mm pitch (see the project instructions for other size options)
Matrix Bonnet (connects LED matrix to the Pi)
You'll also need some kind of display (tv, monitor, etc) that you can connect to the Pi via HDMI for the setup. And a mouse/keyboard that you can connect to the Pi via usb.
Miuzei Raspberry Pi 3B+ Case with Fan Cooling and 3× Heat-Sinks, 5V 2.5A Power Supply with On/Off Switch Cable for RPi 3B+, 3B, 2b
I like it overall, came with everything I wanted minus the SD card and pi.
Total: $273
At 1st I was trying to come up with a cheap Raspberry Pi and RAM and SDCard but the ram and storage space was way too close to what a fullnode needs, so I just switched to a NUC which is gonna give the full node way more (8GB, 1TB, Celeron) for not much more money.
Might be overkill a little, but it's futureproof...
Several years ago I got a Raspberry Pi model A and it lagged in most SNES games. Needless to say, I was disappointed. Well, I just finished this SNES RetroPie build and I am happy. Here is the parts list I used:
Other than the fan (loud as heck) it is all excellent. So happy with this build. I did end up removing the POE pins to make the Super Kuma 9000 heatsink fit, so temps are phenomenal. Even with a light OC, the fan never turns on. Performance is better than expected.
I'd suggest a used computer off of ebay. You can get a slim form factor 2nd Gen i3 Dell Optiplex w/ 4GB of RAM for $55. It will perform significantly better than an RPi for Plex and for not much more either. All you'd need is a boot drive for whatever OS you choose or a flash drive w/ FreeNAS. As for not having a monitor, you'd need one to set it up initially, but that's it. Once you get the OS loaded and SSH server installed, you can manage it remotely.
If you really need as small of form factor as possible, I'd suggest an Intel NUC, but it's a big jump in price.
You can get a whole kit for $50 from Amazon via the Canakit with a raspberry pi3 B+ , I am sure you can get it cheaper somewhere like microcenter.
YouTube will be difficult to block though so please be aware of that, and Pi-Hole isn't a one stop fix all for things, but can block a good chunk of stuff with the right lists.
Looks like a rebrand of a currently available barebones
Canakit has 2gb in stock for 65
CanaKit Raspberry Pi 4 Basic Kit (2GB) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TYK4RL8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_5cUkDbTZH60W1
ZOTAC ZBOX-ID41-U (used)
Crucial 64 GB SSD (used)
[Crucial 4GB DDR3 Memory] (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001KB21KA/ref=oh_details_o02_s01_i00)
Seagate 1TB External HD
Total Money Spent: $357.48
Using my laptop in another room to rip blu rays straight on to this external HD over wireless network, also to do the compression. Works great!
Here's a link to one if anyone is interested.
It depends on the model, they range from a bit under 300$ to about 600$, but I understand UKians get screwed on electronics prices.
https://smile.amazon.com/Intel-NUC-NUC6i3SYH-BOXNUC6I3SYH%C2%A0Silver-Black/dp/B018NSAPIM
https://smile.amazon.com/Intel-NUC6i5SYK-BOXNUC6I5SYK-Silver-Black/dp/B018NS910U
I can't find the i7 version right now.
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Urgh, just read the secondary HDD requirement :/ how much storage does he need? And could you just go for one large SSD?
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Let's knock $300 dollars out of the park...
AsRock Deskmini A300 is $139.99 on Amazon right now and includes case, mobo and psu. (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QSCCRC9/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_ZW3GDbK3M0043)
200GE Athlon will do fine for his requirements at $57.01 and comes with a cooler that will fit in the Deskmini (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HJWVJDN/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_V13GDbHW29M1N)
Single 8gb 2400mhz So-Dimm ram for $32.99 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07NPFB6GS/ref=sspa_mw_detail_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
120gb m.2 seems like more than enough for his use case so here's one for $21.99 (https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-A400-120G-SATA-Internal/dp/B07P22T3VD/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?keywords=128gb+ssd+m.2&qid=1568898494&s=gateway&sr=8-5)
$251.98 so almost 50 dollars profit for you and you can get it all from Amazon to keep it nice and simple.
Deskmini A300W $150
Ryzen 3 2000G $80
8GB DDR4-2666 $47
120GB NVMe storage $30
...and that's it.
$307 plus tax and you have a fully functional Minecraft machine. I do believe the Deskmini will fit the stock AMD cooler if you take the plastic shroud off.
EDIT: You'll be paying this much or more for used systems that offer this performance.
Ouya is an Android device, and while XBMC is on Android, it's not very good. It's not terribly well optimized, and hardware video decoding is still very much in its infancy (and in most cases, non-existent). And MANY plugins are completely broken.
OP: If you're willing to spend a bit of extra money, you may want to consider a Zotac ZBOX. You'll get much more power out of it.
http://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-Intel-Barebone-Mini-PC-ZBOX-ID41-U/dp/B004WO8O9Y
The Brix itself is currently $375 on amazon So it might be cheaper to find the components separately, but from what I saw it'll cost around $55 for the SSD and $20 for the RAM so you save $0! Shit I should delete this.
Pair an Intel nuc with 4GB of ram and an ssd for only $194.66. You don't really need to be building at that price range.
That is where a hub comes in, or you can just use a more lightweight computer. I use an intel nuc to run openhab http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XPVRR5M/. I tried using a raspberry pi to run openhab but as I kept adding rules it wasn't keeping up.
If you decide to go the hub route, get an offline hub. SmartThings has been having so many downtime issues that I wouldn't consider it, Wink is still in transition after the original company went bankrupt, and in general you're entirely dependent on that company staying alive. If you get an offline hub like homeseer, castleos, etc. then you're entering the same price points as a nuc which is why I stuck with that.
Here's what I used:
Buttons/joystick kit: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06WGX76HT/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_e3u4DbNFYM9PT
Video adapter: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07ZVMWPZP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_B4u4DbC4ARRDN
CanaKit Raspberry Pi 3 B+ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BC6WH7V/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_u6u4Db97MWE57
Pi 3b case: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07349HT26/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_v5u4Db1FS3T1H
Audio amp: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C1Q1FPT/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_.6u4DbW8KHPC5
Adhesive Velcro (to mount the various items): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PKQUS4W/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_4.u4DbNJGANFX
1'1/8 Spade bit:
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Bosch-Daredevil-1-1-8-in-x-6-in-Spade-Bit-DSB1015/203274560
General thoughts on the modding process... I had never done something like this, never used a raspberry pi either. I followed ETA's tutorial, browsed this forum for info and everything went smoothly. I encountered only 2 minor difficulties.
The button/joystick kit had 1 joystick wire that was faulty and thus was impossible to tell from looking at it.. After mounting and connecting everything the stick would not register 1 direction. Thinking the stock was at fault I ended up ordering a second kit. It took some tinkering to eventually narrowing it down to the wire! Drilling the 2 extra holes was rather straightforward but I did not think of how the wires would reach the buttons! I ended up drilling 2 small holes in the bottom of the plastic cover - not a super neat job but it's all hidden anyway.
Bottom line, it's relatively simple but I think any DIY project can have unexpected difficulties.. so be prepared.
Tips for anyone who wants to give this a try.. .
Is it easy? I would say yes. The components are plug and play so it's essentially Ikea furniture mounting level. But.. it does require to do things you likely have never done before so take your time and don't rush. The drilling part does require some minimal manual skills. I wouldn't try drilling through the main board... in particular if your equipment is some lightweight stuff. That main board holding the controls is rather thick, and you would risk damaging the artwork if you mess up. Cutting through the Plexi also seems rather challenging.
Cutting through the thin board placed under the controls however is simple.
One advice, if you plan to put back the black plastic cover that protects the underside of the controls, you need to keep that in mind when you decide to position your extra buttons. If you place them too high, you won't have enough clearance for the hidden part of the buttons due to the presence of the plastic cover. So, either position these lower (as I did) or plan not to use the cover.. it might be possible to cut through the black plastic cover but that sounds like a lot of trouble if you ask me..
Side note, I painted the back panel in black because the back of the cab is a little visible in my setup... It looks pretty good.
The cost...
Well, let's be honest, this is not a cheap project. Sure, if you scored a 75$ cab you're off to a good start but to me the look factor was essential. I personally think the Marvel cab is the best looking one currently available in the A1up lineup for a 2 player setup.
So, 250$ for the cab at Walmart. The Pi, the case, video adapter, SD card... Roughly 200$
Total.. 450$
Conclusion...
I absolutely love this thing... But not for the reasons I initially thought. The gaming part ends up being less important for me than the look. I have it setup in my game room (got a pool table and a second cab) and I find myself just turning the cabs on for the mood more than to play with them. Also, the modded cab with its led buttons looks just gorgeous.
That's it, happy modding everyone!
Kind of depends on what you're willing to spend and future projects.
I'd recommend https://www.amazon.com/CanaKit-Raspberry-Power-Supply-Listed/dp/B07BC6WH7V/ to give you something extra to play around with for the most bang for your buck. It's basically what I use as my PiHole and NAS. You could get by with a Raspberry Pi Zero W, but it's pretty barebones and you'd need adapters to plug anything into it. It's kind of a pain in the butt to be honest unless you're wanting a very small footprint.
You could also go with the https://www.amazon.com/CanaKit-Raspberry-4GB-Starter-MAX/dp/B07XPHWPRB/ which would open up a lot of doors when it comes to more taxing server and computing applications.
The Vilros kits are a bit cheaper, but I find their power supplies to give inconsistent voltage/amperage.
I made a linux server out of one for just shy of $200.
barebones
ram
sdd
Prices were obviously different when i bought it a year ago.
$250 and I can't upgrade beyone 4GB RAM? I bought two NUC for $124 each a couple of weeks ago with a Celeron 3050. I threw a cheap SSD and 8GB RAM into each of them, total cost around $225 each and perfectly compatible with Linux.
Not sure how this is a good deal unless you are really into bamboo.
It is okay.
For the same price you could get 50% more cpu power with a TS140.
http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkServer-70A4001MUX-E3-1225v3-Desktop/dp/B00FE2G79C/ref=pd_sim_147_5?ie=UTF8&dpID=41iMAS9dYVL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR96%2C160_&refRID=0WDWVFQX2X7JNJSB9RWB
$127.99 Intel NUC NUC5CPYH
Has VGA, HDMI, 3x USB 3.0 (wtf is that yellow port?), 2x 2.5mm Headphone Jack.
$38.79 8GB RAM for Intel NUC (it doesn't come with any RAM)
$39.99 PNY CS311 120GB (it doesn't come with any drives)
Total: $206.77
Intel Celeron N3050, the NUC's CPU. Dual Core w/o Hyperthreading, max 8GB RAM, Burst (NOT Turbo) to 2.16GHz. Has VT-x, but no VT-d. 64bit.
Disclaimer: The only mini-PC I know of is this NUC, someone else can probably find even cheaper or with better hardware than I can here.
About a year ago, I was thinking the same. I built myself a FreeNAS box (C224 chipset board, Xeon CPU, ECC RAM, etc) for about the same price as a fully loaded 4-bay QNAP or Synology.
You can usually find a bargain Lenovo TS140 server (with E3 Xeon and 4GB ECC RAM) usually around the ~$300 mark, then fill it with drives. If I recall, the TS140 has 5 hard drive bays.
For a while now, I have been looking at a way to host my offsite backups in a low power form factor.
My solution? This!
I threw 2*4GB sticks of DDR3L into it, loaded FreeNAS onto a flash drive, and installed a Seagate 2.5" 4TB hard drive, and away I went!
I'm utilizing the site to site USG setup between my house and my mum's house to send ZFS snapshots every 12 hours from my main storage server to this little thing.
When I was first pushing backups, I noticed that I was pretty severely restricted on speed. Only about 150mbps on my local network. I'm going to blame the sluggish CPU and the anemic realtek NIC.
That said, it is still faster than both the VPN connection and the remote internet connection, so whatever.
When pushing data to it, it used up to 11.5Watts! Very pleased with this device as a backup server.
You could do what I have done, get a low end intel NUC.
I stream movies with plex and games with steam without issue. It isn't a requirement but it is highly recommended you have your NUC and PC on ethernet to reduce latency for gaming. Some have said steam has greatly increased wireless support for streaming.
I have two RPi4's. I purchased the Canakit that included the power supply:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07TYK4RL8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
and I ordered the following case which acts as a heatsink:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07VD568FB/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
One runs LibreElec, the other runs a Grafana kiosk. Zero issues.
Medium ash tophats are also available:
https://www.amazon.com/Ghost-S1-Tophat-Medium-Ash/dp/B07GNNM9SJ/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=LOUQE&qid=1564478131&s=gateway&sr=8-2&th=1
Intel NUC NUC5CPYH, 4K Support via HDMI, Intel HD Graphics, SATA3 for 2.5-Inch HDD/SSD BOXNUC5CPYH https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XPVRR5M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_eN.5xbQP056FP
With SSD and RAM, $200
Can you provide a link? You're the first person I've seen today that mentioned getting a large top hat this batch. I can't find it through Amazon's search and when I try to go through Google it gives me page could not be found.
Here's the link I tried through Google.
https://www.amazon.com/Ghost-S1-Tophat-Large-Ash/dp/B07GNN51YF
EDIT: They added large top hats now
I will give you my top 5.
1.The hard yellow springs $5 and you will have extras. These will help your bed stay level longer. I think I need to check mine once every.. 10 prints or so or every other week, maybe longer. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B013G5I4US/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_vkE6Cb8SHNBVG
2.Glass bed. Lowes for $3 cut 2.5mm. Ender 3 bed known to be warped.
3.Pick up a Raspberry pi ~$50 and install octopi/ octoprint.. free, and a mini b to USB cable $5. Now you don't need the to fiddle with micro SD and can manage everything from PC. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BC6WH7V/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_olE6Cb8J91Q1J
And
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00P0GI68M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_umE6CbPGSR7T4
4.Raspberry pi cam $25 and longer cable $3 to go with your Raspberry pi octoprint. Now you can monitor prints while "away" .. aka relaxing in your lazy boy watching YouTube vids on how bad season 8 of GOT was. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01ER2SKFS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_noE6CbXTHCPDS
And
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00M4DAQH8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_ipE6Cb9RK6QNR
5.Bowden tube $11. Only if you plan on printing hotter then 240c. So petg, abs.. ECT ECT . https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079P92HN9/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_KjE6CbDMX6SGE
Hope this helps.
(if you're in the US)...https://www.amazon.com/Ghost-S1-Tophat-Medium-Ash/dp/B07GNNM9SJ/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?keywords=loque%2Bghost%2Bs1&qid=1559165887&s=gateway&sprefix=loque%2Bghost&sr=8-1&th=1&psc=1
Ghost S1 has these expandable unit that you can attached to the top or bottom of the case if you need more rooms. These range from small (16mm) to large (56mm) to accommodate different uses such as SSD or fans or AIO. Buyer has the option of buying these units if they want to keep the Ghost, but need more room.
Since they go on top of the Ghost and they have the novelty idea of calling them top hat when technically you can put it at the bottom of the case too. Asshats?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GNNM9SJ/ref=twister_B07GX31Q53?th=1
Those components wont likely fit, but even if they did you wouldn't want to use such dated parts. I put together this NUC for my father recently. All he does is watch a lot of Youtube videos and surfs news websites. Here is a parts list you could consider:
Intel NUC $127
RAM $28
SSD $45
This doesn't include a copy of windows... which you can get license for off of various sources such as Kinguin for less than $40. Or if you're cool with it, there are various versions of linux which you can run for free.
It would be an older 3rd or 4th gen i5 that predates x265 compression. Decent for a file server, but not current video. For a media box I'd go for a newer Celeron like the j3455 that can play modern video formats, including 4K 10-bit x265. I like the specs of the fitlet2 but I haven't tried one yet.
I run my Plex server on an Intel NUC
I am going to go ahead and say you should look into a Chrome box or Intel nuc, something with a little bit more horse power. The nuc can run Win7 and the chrome book should be able to handle day to day tasks though you will need to buy ram and a harddrive for it. The Raspberry Pi is really good for what it is but it the other options are much more plug and play then a Pi.
-http://www.amazon.com/HP-Chromebox-CB1-014-Desktop-White/dp/B00KD5RUPA
-http://www.amazon.com/Intel-NUC5CPYH-Graphics-2-5-Inch-BOXNUC5CPYH/dp/B00XPVRR5M/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1454117916&sr=1-1&keywords=nuc
-http://www.amazon.com/Intel-NUC5i5RYK-Core-Processor-BOXNUC5I5RYK/dp/B00SD9ISIQ/ref=sr_1_3?-s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1454117916&sr=1-3&keywords=nuc****
Xen is falling out of favor for KVM, and LVM is starting to fall out of favor for BTRFS (still early on this). You might want to give those a shot as well.
Does anyone have suggestions or have already configured a rig that has a nice balance of power, RAM, and disk for virt lab purposes?
Lenovo TS140 with E3-1225v3 for $350 + 32GB DDR3 ram for $150 + 1TB SSD for $250 = $750.
I just ordered one of these and love it!
http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkServer-70A4001MUX-E3-1225v3-Desktop/dp/B00FE2G79C
Edit: Nevermind my recommendations... You said on the cheap. Just get an old Windows PC.
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Raspberry is gonna be slow. Stay away.
Sounds like you are gonna need a Windows PC to do all that without a fuss.
I'd go for one of these but they still need memory, OS and a storage drive.
For HDs: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00HZDLNWO/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1420117092&sr=8-1&dpPl=1&dpID=41RYI9FbYkL&ref=plSrch&pi=AC_SX200_QL40
For SSD: http://www.amazon.com/Intel-D54250WYK1-i5-4250U-Processor-Power/dp/B00H3YT8CC
http://www.amazon.com/Asus-VM60-G106M-ASUS-Barebone-System/dp/B00LHYG44Y/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1420118442&sr=1-4&keywords=Vivopc
http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkCentre-M73-Desktop-10AY001RUS/dp/B00FNQMNCE/ref=sr_1_10?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1420118442&sr=1-10&keywords=Vivopc
You could, but as others have said it will be suuuppper slllooowww.
Think of it this way, for a bit more money you can build something you won't be replacing as quickly, thus saving you money in the long run.
I use a MSI cubi with gigabit ethernet and USB 3.0, I put 8GB of RAM in it and and old laptop hard drive and installed Linux Mint. I use it with 5 of the 8TB WD easystores. The drives are on a USB 3 hub and I'm using ZFS. When doing a scrub it shows speeds over 200MB/sec ... and that's the cheapo model with a Celeron 3205U, dual core @ 1.50ghz.
Edit: looks like those are discontinued, Intel has a similar offering.
I use a NUC6i5SYK (with the latest BIOS) with 16GB of Kingston Technology HyperX Impact RAM (HX421S13IBK2/16) and a Samsung 850 EVO - 250GB - M.2 for storage (N5E250BW).
It's running Linux Mint 18.
I did have one problem with crashing when moving between dual monitors, but upgrading the kernel to 4.8.0-32 completely fixed it.
I love it as a development machine and use NetBeans, RabbitVCS, MySQL/Workbench, Sublime Text or NotePad++ in Wine, Remnina, iReports, Thunderbird, FileZilla, TeamViewer, Pidgin, LibreOffice, VirtualBox, Meld, and others daily.
I was super hesitant because the Skylake NUCs had big problems when they first came out, but forum complaints seemed to die down after the latest couple of BIOS updates, so I took the plunge. So far very happy.
I did something similar recently:
$318 plus tax - I'm running nodes for half a dozen cryptocurrencies on it.
This is my favorite set up to give friends. Looks good and mostly foolproof hardware wise!
Raspberry Pi 3 Model B
Rasptendo SNES Case (IMO, connect the power button as intended, but either solder the reset button as per the method mentioned in there or don't connect it at all. This way there's no way for the user to do a non-safe shutdown of the OS)
Dual fan heatsink
Bluetooth adapter (more reliable than built-in bluetooth, change /boot/config.txt to disable onboard Bluetooth)
PS3 SIXAXIS Controller (Dualshock 3's work too, but I like the legit OEM ones, and those are hard to find. The convincing bootlegs/fakes are usually impossible to tell apart from legit ones when ordering online. That's why I look for used SIXAXIS controllers - no bootlegs. Also, I use PS3 controllers because pairing can be done or re-done entirely by connecting up mini-USB cables. No menus necessary once you set it up the first time!)
Sandisk 64GB MicroSD
Canakit PSU
HDMI cable, Mini-USB cable.
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For a more serious, less user-friendly but more overclockable setup, ditch the case/heatsink above and go with these instead:
Some kind of heatsink, I'm using one from the Kintaro case but I suspect the cheap stick-on heatsinks are probably fine too
this open-air case (throw out the fan as it's way too loud... I'm sure other open-air cases will work but I like that this one has the 40mm setup for the below fan and the little grille to prevent curious fingers from getting in there at least)
this Noctua 40mm 5v fan (expensive, but quiet and provides solid cooling)
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Totals out to $317. Extra ~$35 to go up to an 8GB stick of RAM.
I bought a 2GB CanaKit on Amazon because everywhere else was out of stock and I don’t have a USB C power brick, anyway. Probably overpaid a bit, but I got a 4 and a power brick.
I'm using a dual heat sink fan for my NesPi setup.
https://www.amazon.com/Raspberry-iUniker-Heatsink-Dual-Copper/dp/B075R4S9GH
It fits in the NESPi case too!
I'm basically doing the same thing. Building this for my bro for a Christmas present. Using XB360 controllers, wireless dongle, Bluetooth keyboard, 128gb SanDisk card, NESpi Case.
I have 2 of the elcheepo N64 USB controllers. I gave up on trying to make them work. The XB360 controller sucks for 007 GoldenEye but that game doesn't hardly play anyways on this setup.
The PS/2 issue is simple enough to fix with a converter, they are cheap and readily available. VGA to HDMI requires an expensive, clunky, finicky converter box, so that ain't happening. With that in mind, move away from the NUCs. If you can find a cheap alternative that supports DVI, conversion to both HDMI or VGA, I believe, is cheap and easy. Something like this has a DVI and an HDMI, tho I don't know the brand too well. Or how well linux support is for a random ass'd ARM based system. Or MSI has a celeron unit with a VGA port. Figure out a per system budget, and look around, and check reviews, and google for issues with the model you go with ;) Quite a few minis have DVI.
If you're not opposed to just buying and adding a second nic check out the lenovo thinkserver TS140. They're pretty cheap and i love mine. added a second nic, filled up the ram, and a hdd and still was under $500. I got the Xeon E3 but they have and i3 model too.
Edit: Weird. The price has gone up considerably. The one I got is almost twice as much on amazon now.
http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkServer-70A4001MUX-E3-1225v3-Desktop/dp/B00FE2G79C?ie=UTF8&keywords=thinkserver%20ts140&qid=1464378152&ref_=sr_1_3&sr=8-3
i belive i paid around 350
Everything depends on how much you want to spend. I'll outline what I did:
I don't know of anything in that form factor with significantly more power. But you could also just throw more pis at it with a case like this. Also, While an Intel NUC doesn't have the same form factor, it's close ish.
So here's the one I'm looking at - does "barebones" just mean "bring your own OS?" or is it missing hardware other than the hard drive?
Flirc case.
https://flirc.tv/more/raspberry-pi-case
It looks nice, has very tight tolerances for sealing the case, comes with a thermal pad to connect the CPU to the entire aluminum block that is the case. One of the best passive cooling cases out there. Note that passive cooling still does not beat a fan, but it is often good enough.
Combined with the CanaKit which includes the excellent inline power switch.
https://www.amazon.com/CanaKit-Raspberry-Power-Supply-Listed/dp/B07BC6WH7V
Using one for a pihole, and one for a retropie.
This is a newer version of the Foxconn box I was talking about. It's generally underpowered for most uses, but perfect for travel: https://www.amazon.com/Foxconn-NTA350-0H0W-B-Hudson-Booksize-Barebone/dp/B00556F8BU
(Full disclosure, I did no research on this specific box, just searched for a current version)
And here is a copy of the cheaper Alpha: https://www.amazon.com/Alienware-ASM100-1580-i3-4130T-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B00MA7AMKY
(Recommend replacing the hard drive though)
You really need a beefier machine to do the motion detection and what not.
I would suggest setting up PiZW's as "Fast Network Cameras" then installing motion/motioneye on a central server to do all the motion detection.
You could go with something like a barebones NUC, toss some ram and a HDD/SSD and it wont be too expensive. Or use extra hardware you have. But a Pi zero won't cut it for doing the motion detection.
https://www.amazon.com/Intel-NUC5CPYH-Graphics-2-5-Inch-BOXNUC5CPYH/dp/B00XPVRR5M
I LOVE MY ENDER 3'S. I have one running stock everything (except the bed) and the other is well, an ender 3 in name only now. (I know you mentioned you are in the EU, but I have provided links to my sources for US based distributors)
Printer setup:
Ender 3
MKS (MKS GEN L V1.0)
TMC (2208's)
Micro Swiss All Metal Hotend ( MS all metal )
Custom Modified heater block (installed 300°c heater cartridge and 450°c capable thermistor from slice engineering) (heater) & (thermistor)
Bantamfeeder Extruder ( bantam design ) ... will be changing this out soon when I decide what next. Works well just not my cup of tea for convenience purposes.
Bullseye Duct ( https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2759439)
3-point bed conversion for leveling made easy (Leveling guide and 3 point leveling adapter). HERE IS A COMPLETED DESIGN OF THESE CHANGES( My bed setup ... < < < this is my stock ender 3)
Borosilicate glass bed w/ PEI (Glass bed & PEI Sheet)
PSU (Mean Well NES-350-24 24V 350 Watt UL Switching Power Supply 120 Volt)
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OCTOPRINT SERVER
RPI 3b+ (raspberry pi w/ octoprint)
Pi Cam (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07L2SY756/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
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So now you see why I say not really an ender 3 anymore, only in name
No, its it's own computer. A NUC comes with a mini itx shaped basic case, I/O, some form of laptop processor and motherboard, PSU, RAM, as well as some 2.5" HDD/SSD mounts inside the case. You buy your own HDD/SSD, (LAPTOP) RAM and Windows copy, and you're good to go. Example here.
There are the basic ones that Intel makes described above, or you can buy some like the Gigabyte BRIX. These are usually more powerful, and therefore more expensive. Example here. These do have more features such as a basic PCI-E slot for Wi-Fi cards or sound cards, and more hard drive slots.
A NUC build would be:
I went 18+ months with my trusty little ER-X paired with a UAP-AC-LR (using the included PoE injector, but you could also arrange it so the PoE injector is powering both the ER-X & the AP (AC-Lite or AC-LR, not a UAP-AC-Pro or the more power hungry devices that are 802af). It's not a terrible idea to use both the included power brick with the ER-X as well as the PoE injector if you wanna go that way, for some redundancy.
Regardless, an ER-X pairs wonderfully with any of the 24V Passive Access Points, I would highly recommend it. Don't get suckered into buying a CloudKey, though -- they're a huge waste of money. Your UniFi Controller can be run on almost anything. And you only really need it running 24/7 if you care about collecting metrics, or if you run certain aspects of the access point (Guest Portal, etc) -- but you can spin up a Controller on anything from an old spare PC, to your own PC, Raspberry Pi, or my personal favorite: the cloud. I'm using Google Cloud Compute always free, micro-instance to host both of my sites and it's performed wonderfully for nearly a year now, but AWS and other places have similar offerings. It's personal preference at that point where you'd prefer to spin up your favorite flavor of Linux. Ubuntu Server is always a great choice, but I've been trying to convert most of my more "critical" services to pure Debian, as it's been absolutely rock-solid stable without the extra fluff that can be packaged with Ubuntu Server. As with most things in life, it has its pros and cons. You literally have to install everything on a minimal Debian install (including basic tools liek
sudoand so on), but it's been a wonderful option. I think it took me all of ~twenty minutes to get going, it's SO easy to import your configuration once you have the basic server built and installed UniFi. Also, be sure to check out https://unifi.ubnt.com for a demo of what you'd be looking at/for.I believe this is the guide I followed when I was first trying to get started: https://metis.fi/en/2018/02/unifi-on-gcp/
TL;DR -- Don't be shy about running a hybrid network with both EdgeMAX and UniFi devices. I stressed over that decision terribly, and in the end it was a happy accident things wound up the way they did. I wouldn't trade my Edgerouter for anything. For a while I even ran an OPNsense (or pfSense makes for a great router, as well, but i prefer the nice GUI built on top with OPNsense) transparent firewall because I thought I wanted more granular control over what was going across my network, but in the end, I've replaced that with a couple instances of Pi-hole and life has been grand. Simply Point your ER-X to the Pi-hole(s) IP address(es) and have those handed out via DHCP to all the clients on your network and voila network wide ad-blocking without having to mess with any extra apps or browser extensions on your PC. It's literally a one-liner install to get up and running. A Raspberry Pi 3 B+ could potentially run BOTH your UniFi Controller, as well as Pi-hole all for around $35 (more if you buy a complete kit). This is a great one to get you started, it has a very reliable power supply: https://www.amazon.com/CanaKit-Raspberry-Power-Supply-Listed/dp/B07BC6WH7V/ -- add your favorite case to that (there's SO many choices) and you're off to the races, but if you have old hardware lying around I'd consider that as an option. Free is good.
Here's my secondary DNS server for my little home/office network, which runs Pi-hole / Unbound / OpenVPN Server: https://i.imgur.com/Wkx5mzt.jpg
You do not need fans. This CanaKit is probably the only one I would suggest. The power supply has worked very well for me and it is basically the same price as buying a 3b+ and power supply separately.
The issue I have with most kits, is that they are trying to make as much money as possible on a lot of parts. This means you are going to be getting cheap parts. There are much better cases, like the Flirc Case(I use this one) or the Retroflag cases(if you want that retro console look), both of which are available on Amazon.
You would be better off getting some 8bitdo or iBuffalo controllers. Cheap controllers just do not feel right. While I have never used the CanaKit controllers they do not review well.
Finally, the SD card. Always buy this yourself, from a good brand and from a good vendor. Samsung (what I buy) and Sandisk seems to be the best reviewed and performing SD Cards. Performance is not that big of an metric for the Pi 3b+ though. You will want reliability from your SD card. A cheap card will cause more problems than what they are worth in my experience.
Just know, building a RetroPie without having anything already will cost you ~$100. They are not cheaper or easier than SNES classic. That being said, if you like tinkering, RetroPie's are a hell of a lot more fun.
I have an Intel NUC (Skylake 6th gen i5-6260U with Intel Iris Graphics 540) and it can play Gwent very well. I think Iris 540 is the same (integrated) graphics on the Macbook Pro 2016
Had to turn off Vsync or else I'll get 350+ fps with fans spinning at max, now it's very silent and won't overheat at all.
It's $320-$350 @ Amazon, maybe you can get cheaper elsewhere https://www.amazon.com/Intel-NUC-Kit-NUC6i5SYH-Mini/dp/B018NS910U?th=1
Those couplers are trash and so is the PTFE tube they sent. They may work for a while but you'll want to swap them sooner rather than later. Here's a list of upgrades you'll probably want to do. You'll also want to look up a tutorial on how to upgrade your firmware so you can activate safety features (thermal runaway protection specifically). This also doesn't include a BLTouch or EZABL (auto bed levelers) as I have yet to make a choice personally.
Couplers and Tube:
SIQUK 3 Pieces Teflon Tube PTFE... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FPJHRTQ?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Metal Extruder: ( original plastic one will wear out or break)
Ender 3 Creality 3D Upgrade... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07KSS8FRQ?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Bed Springs: (more than needed but oh well)
SIQUK 16 Pieces Heated Bed... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07K9PBML5?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Glass Bed: (goes on top of print bed which is usually warped, printing on an uneven surface not so bueno)
Creality Upgraded 3D Printer... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DS2LZF1?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Raspberry Pi 3B+ for OctoPrint: (still need microsd card for it I believe)
CanaKit Raspberry Pi 3 B+ (B... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BC6WH7V?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Stepper Motor Dampers: (silences the motors, no more sounding like dial up internet lol will need to print mounts from thingiverse)
Upgraded NEMA 17 Stepper Steel... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DNT72SF?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Heat Sinks For Stepper Motors: (once stepper motors have dampers and aren't attached to the metal frame, they can get a little hot)
40mmx40mmx10mm Black Radiator... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07KWVGGGK?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Hot end silicone sleeve: (may not need, mine came with one instead of the old insulation)
Creality Original 3D Printer... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HNXJ39T?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Extra Filament: (ender 3 only comes with a small sample "spool", this is just a brand I use and have had decent results with. The metallic silver hue shows off detail well)
3D Printer PLA Filament 1.75MM... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ME7YUIU?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
If you're intending on running Kubernetes or ESXi on your NUCs, you might consider investing the bucks in populating your boxen with these, especially with RAM prices where they are now.
If I were rebuilding my NUC lab this is what I'd do, but alas, my NUCs are DDR3.
Unless you need a higher end NUC for a specific reason, just get one of the lower end models.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MSZTD8N
humm bet ya https://www.amazon.com/Intel-NUC5CPYH-Graphics-2-5-Inch-BOXNUC5CPYH/dp/B00XPVRR5M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1502309665&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=intel+nuc running windows or linux chould do it.
A computer. Honestly that will obviously play anything you throw at it (with VLC). You can buy an Intel Compute Stick for $130 and it's ready to go out of the box. Comes with a quad core atom CPU and Windows preinstalled. There are more expensive and flexible choices out there but this a good option
http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Boxed-Compute-Windows-Pre-Loaded/dp/B014N4CZE2/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1452743525&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=intel+compute+stick
Connect to TV, pair with wireless keyboard and mouse.
Something like the
NUC NUC5CPYH should be the clear winner, right? Intel Braswell Celeron processor (N3050), more ports, more powerful, costs less, etc.
Here's the thing that's cool about these stick PCs IMO: They are just plug and play. You don't have to include the cost of an SSD and RAM that it takes to get the NUC up and running. That's an interesting proposition don't you think?
I'm a junky when it comes to this crap and I own a first gen intel compute stick (windows version) and really like it for what it is. If you happen to have a spare SSD and some RAM laying around then perhaps the NUC ends up being a better choice.
Note that most NUCs don't come with RAM or storage, you have to buy those afterwards or find a deal that sells the NUC+RAM+SSD in a bundle.
You don't need more than 8GB of RAM, even 4GB will do for a simple Plex server that isn't used for anything else.
My suggestions.
Intel NUC Broadwell i7
Intel NUC Skylake i5
Intel NUC Skylake i3
Intel NUC Broadwell i3
All the other options aren't suitable for plex or aren't price/performance competitive at this time so these are the four different levels to chose from.
> You paid more than double what I would have paid for it ~3 years ago.
If you want something more recent, here is last year's version of that one at $133.
Looks great to me, nice work.
Only suggestion I have is to check out HTPC cases, they have a very slim profile that may be more appropriate for your space.
Maybe something like this
You may also be able to meet your needs with something even smaller, like a NUC.. Explore your options!
you can get quite a decent PC for 400 bucks
heck, for 200
Celeron N3050
http://www.amazon.com/Intel-NUC5CPYH-Graphics-2-5-Inch-BOXNUC5CPYH/dp/B00XPVRR5M/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1449416033&amp;sr=1-2&amp;keywords=intel+nuc
Or a 99 buck celeron N2800 box
http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Intel-Celeron-Barebones-GB-BXBT-2807/dp/B00KR0QHXW/ref=pd_sim_147_21?ie=UTF8&amp;dpID=31ctwYg4y2L&amp;dpSrc=sims&amp;preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&amp;refRID=1XGX2H5SYN2WPQSVBDA0
heck, with 400 bucks you can make a decent pentium or i3 box.
http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-i3-5010U-Compact-Barebone-GB-BXi3-5010/dp/B00UKXE5Z8/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1449416465&amp;sr=1-2&amp;keywords=i3+barebones
Looks good. Just the 710's are probably EOL'd by now I'd suspect. We've gotten rid of all our 710's, we're running a lot of 620's and already have been deploying 630's for about a year now. But that's my work environment and we need the latest and greatest. For a home lab I wouldn't personally pick a rack mount Dell. They're loud. They use a lot of electricity. The Intel 6th gen NUCs are cheap and you get the latest skylake hardware.
For home, I have 5 of these NUCs and they can all run ESXi just fine. Memory is a limitation, as you can only put 32G of RAM in there. They don't have local storage: they all boot from USB and all the VMs live on an NFS share, in this case, on a Synology 4 bay NAS. Each NUC only takes 65W of power; I'm not sure if they're fanless, but I've never heard the fan turn on. Very quiet. How many watts is the power supply in a 710? At least 500? Maybe up to 750 or more if they're redundant?
And with this type of environment you can run vSphere, throw the hosts into a cluster and have your VMs migrate around on their own depending on usage.
At the time the NUCs were going for $330 (Plus $110 for 32G of ram) but I've seen the prices go up about $50 since then, but looking now they're about $345 now: https://www.amazon.com/Intel-BOXNUC6I5SYK-NUC-Kit-NUC6i5SYK/dp/B018NS910U/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1480136435&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=intel+nuc+6th+gen
IMO I would take 2 of these NUCs any day over a 710. You get to play with DRS, vmotion and HA. With your budget you can probably get 3, if you kick in an extra hundred bucks or so. With 2 hosts you'll still have 64GB of total RAM. With 3 you'll have 96GB and some redundancy. They will run 5VMs each EZPZ. If you don't already have a NAS, perhaps you could build a FreeNAS box for storage? (That might be a better use for a 710 IMO)
I'll probably get downvoted since I'm not encouraging you to stick with what you picked. But that's OK. I'm cool with that. I just prefer to roll a different way, I guess. I live in an apartment and don't want a friggin 42U rack in here. I have a desktop rack for my Juniper SRX100, Juniper EX2200 and Cable Modem. Here's a link: http://www.middleatlantic.com/products/racks-enclosures/specialty-racks/dr-series-desktop-rail-rack.aspx
Either way, good luck :)
They say their dimensions are 4.0 x 4.0 x ?.? inches
Comparable would be the Intel NUC [1] [2] which is 4.6 x 4.4 x 1.4 inches. I use one for a minecraft server/video server/file server at home.
[1] I5 processor: http://www.amazon.com/Intel-D54250WYK1-i5-4250U-Processor-Power/dp/B00H3YT8CC
[2] I7 processor: http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-i7-4500U-2-5-Inch-Thickness-GB-BXi7H-4500/dp/B00I14INK6
People keep saying that.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07TYK4RL8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
First, I'll preface this by saying I'm NOT trying to hijack this thread -- it was the first result that came up on Google when I searched for "Arcade1Up hack", so it's mostly intended for helping other Googlers who land here.
I had some questions about whether I should go Pi or hacking the stock board, and figured a lot of people might be able to benefit from what I've found (largely in thanks to /u/BerryBerrySneaky answering my questions, and this video). So here's the information I've collected:
You'll have a totally pimped out cab though with way better quality sticks & buttons, and as many games as you want. If it's worth it to you to spend $200-300 on the Arcade1Up cab + $200 for a major upgrade, then go for it! I'll probably post a separate thread here when my stuff comes in and I get it all installed, if there's enough interest. Maybe even a video, we'll see.
I bought a NUC5i7RYH ( https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00WAS1FX6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1 ) and put 16 GB of RAM and a 500 GB SSD in it. Runs Plex on Ubuntu like a charm.
It would probably be overkill however I'm running pfsense virtualized on one of these and it's fantastic for my uses Supermicro SYS-5018A-TN4 . Pros: low wattage vs performance, near silent operation, IPMI, 4 intel NICs. Cons: Uses pretty odd ECC so-dimms that aren't typical, cost.
A cheaper solution would be the the netgate 2440 and may actually make more sense since my Supermicro really shine for how many cores they have and as far as I know pfsense is still really single thread limited for basic operations.
The lighting bolt is heat.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075R4S9GH/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I got one of these and ran it for two day no lighting bolt.
My OS on my Raspberry Pi 3+ is Q4OS and it feel almost like a real desktop now, just wist it had more RAM and could run X86 applications. Other than that if you are only in to just repo apps, it a great desktop replacement.
First IntelNUC build and just want to make sure everything will work together:
IntelNUC D54250WYK1 link
Crucial 8GBx2 DDR3 204 SODIMM link
Transcent 128BG SATA III mSATA link
Sound good? Shoudl I swap a piece out for something else?
Here is the model in the picture
just search raspberry pi fan on amazon and you will get hundreds of results. Although a fan is not needed unless you want to OC the pi.
The super kintaro supports a case fan, but I see you're using a different one, and I'm not sure if it does or not. Pi's don't need a lot of coming, but if you expect your friend to put it in a media center, or to overclock the device for some N64 or PSX action, I'd add one if possible. Another option is this fantastic little cooler, which is also very quiet. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075R4S9GH or you can purchase the super kintaro heatsink alone: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BT855JV/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_9QQ2AbN7782R2
Both of those work for your Pi3, but not for the later 3b+ because of the extra PoE pins.
Good to find someone else in my shoes, lol. I was in the exact same position a couple months ago before grabbing a Pi, so I'm not an expert by any means, but I've learned a few things.
As for plug and play kits, I'd avoid the ones with NES/SNES style cases as they have horrible cooling. If you're planning on using it as a RetroPi, you'll definitely need some better cooling. For passive cooling, you'll need something like the FLIRC case, which basically turns the entire case into a giant heatsink (https://www.amazon.com/Flirc-Raspberry-Case-Gen2-Model/dp/B07349HT26/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=rpi+case&qid=1563297746&s=gateway&sr=8-5) or for active cooling, I'd suggest grabbing a cheap acrylic stack with a small 30mm fan off Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/s?k=rpi+case&ref=nb_sb_noss). Keep in mind that these are Pi 3 B+ cases, and they won't work with the Pi 4 as the USB and ethernet are switched around, plus different HDMI ports.
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For your first Pi, a kit is nice as it includes heatsinks and a decent power supply. If you want to use RetroPi then having a kit with an SD card that includes NOOBS wont matter, as NOOBS doesn't let you install RetroPi. Also, the cases that come with CanaKit and Abox have terrible cooling if you're running something heavy like RetroPi, so I'd recommend getting these:
Rasbperry Pi 3 B+ Basic Kit: https://www.amazon.com/CanaKit-Raspberry-Power-Supply-Listed/dp/B07BC6WH7V/ref=sr_1_8?keywords=raspbery+pi&qid=1563297903&s=gateway&sr=8-8
FLIRC case: https://www.amazon.com/Flirc-Raspberry-Case-Gen2-Model/dp/B07349HT26/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=rpi+case&qid=1563297746&s=gateway&sr=8-5
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Other than that, you'll just need an SD card to flash with RetroPi, maybe a USB stick to transfer ROMs over with, and a controller. 8BitDo make some really solid retro replica controllers so I'd suggest that possibly.
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As for a gaming PC, you could easily run most ROMS on a low end gaming PC, so if emulation is your main goal then you could easily build a 500-600 PC that would kick ass for ROMS. I mean, my Chromebook can run RetroArch pretty easily, so you don't need a ton of power. It's just that the Pi is a tiny SoC running an ARM chip so it's different than a full fledged x86 PC.
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The Pi 3 B+ struggles with N64 and PS1 some, so waiting for the Pi 4 to be RetroPi compatible would likely be the cheapest option to get yourself going. I have high hopes for it with regards to the N64 and other systems from that generation.
If you're going to be streaming high-end games, but still want to play medium and low tiered games directly, a Brix w/ Iris graphics seems like a good choice. Something like this, the drop in some laptop DIMMs and a mSATA drive
That said, I'll still whip up a build in a few minutes and post that here to see what you think.
^EDIT1:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i5-4430 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor | $174.98 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard | MSI H81I Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard | $64.99 @ Amazon
Memory | A-Data XPG V1.0 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory | $34.99 @ Newegg
Storage | PNY XLR8 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $63.31 @ NCIX US
Storage | Western Digital Scorpio Blue 750GB 2.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive | $51.74 @ Amazon
Case | Silverstone ML05B HTPC Case | $48.99 @ Mwave
Power Supply | SeaSonic 300W 80+ Certified SFX Power Supply | $39.99 @ Mwave
Wireless Network Adapter | TP-Link TL-WN725N 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter | $8.88 @ Amazon
| | Total
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available | $487.87
With this, you're not going to be able to use the 7850, so the i5s iGPU is all you'll have. That said, the HD4600 is still a pretty good iGPU, so you should be able to get some gaming performance there. If you wanted to use your 7850, I would drop down to a i3 and grab a bigger case.
Another part choice that stands out is the HDD, but the ML05B doesn't have any internal 3.5" drive bays, hence the need for a laptop drive.
I can't write a full rationale right now, but if you have any questions I'd be more than happy to answer them!
Mix a good keyboard with something like http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Barebone-i5-4570R-Graphic-GB-BXi5-4570R/dp/B00HYEU0C8/ref=sr_1_5?s=pc&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1405050789&amp;sr=1-5&amp;keywords=pc and you'd get damn close to a cyberdeck.
https://www.amazon.com/Ghost-S1-Tophat-Large-Ash/dp/B07GNN51YF/ref=pd_bxgy_147_img_2/135-4739200-0991425?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07GNN51YF&pd_rd_r=2146f9f2-b8b0-4c05-9fd9-1416f4ed883c&pd_rd_w=DVa4K&pd_rd_wg=1AvAJ&pf_rd_p=a2006322-0bc0-4db9-a08e-d168c18ce6f0&pf_rd_r=9KHA5JG2C7X1V2H8237S&refRID=9KHA5JG2C7X1V2H8237S&th=1
Is this the same large tophat? Or are they different?
This is my setup:
I purchased this dual fan https://www.amazon.com/Raspberry-iUniker-Heatsink-Dual-Copper/dp/B075R4S9GH/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1510856624&amp;sr=8-2-spons&amp;keywords=raspberry+pi+fan&amp;psc=1
and I have placed it in this case https://www.amazon.com/NESPI-CASE-Style-Raspberry-RetroFlag/dp/B074DSXF7F/ref=pd_bxgy_147_img_2?_encoding=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;refRID=KXDEG0V7CB2TZSZVDS0V . It works beautifully. If you want an all inclusive aluminum: https://www.amazon.com/Eleduino-Raspberry-Model-Cooling-Silver/dp/B01F361IIS/ref=sr_1_25?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1510856694&amp;sr=1-25&amp;keywords=aluminum+case+raspberry+pi this one works nice.
Okey, i switched to the Intel NUC6CAYH since is almost same price but look like higher quality and better CPU :
https://www.amazon.fr/Intel-BOXNUC6CAYH-Arches-Canyon-Nuc6cayh/dp/B01MSZTD8N/
thanks i was worried this was the case. But there is a lot of mixed opinion on the internet about nettops as HTPCs. I had one of these perviously and was hoping the intel hardware would fix the same issue. Other wise it looks like i got two mini computers to figure out what to do with. My last hope is installing a 64bit OS and seeing if that will help the problem.
+1 for this. If you have an old laptop laying around you can simply use windows power options to prevent the laptop from sleeping/hibernating when the lid closes and use TeamViewer to control it.
In my environment when we need to deploy something to manage slideshows for display TV's we use low power intel NUCs like this. Because we have users that aren't "tech literate" (don't want to learn how to transfer files) we simply have them use Google Slides and full screen the slide show on Chrome.
That is exactly the kind of feedback I was looking for.
Can you recommend any specific NUC?
Would this one be powerful enough for my needs?: http://www.amazon.com/Intel-NUC6i5SYK-BOXNUC6I5SYK-Silver-Black/dp/B018NS910U/
And in regards to USB 3.0 hard drive, should I then buy a specific brand? Or will this be good enough?: http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Expansion-Desktop-External-STEB5000100/dp/B00TKFEEBW/
When I searched after the Atom C2758 the word "FreeNAS" came up, is that what you are recommending?
Thanks again a lot for your insightful advice (and sorry for all of the questions).
There is a small amount of setup involved. It is within the realm of my tolerance for such things, but barely. You need a NUC, a stick of memory, a high quality usb thumb drive, plexpass and any other crappy thumb drive or external disk. You may need a usb keyboard for one time setup stuff.
NUC, there is a newer better faster generation out now but this is the one I bought: http://smile.amazon.com/Intel-NUC5CPYH-Graphics-2-5-Inch-BOXNUC5CPYH/dp/B00XPVRR5M
RAM, do not go crazy here. It does one thing. This matches the above NUC: http://smile.amazon.com/Kingston-Technology-1600MHz-PC3-12800-KVR16LS11/dp/B00CQ35GYE
FLIRC: http://smile.amazon.com/FLIRC-FL-09028-Universal-Receiver-Components/dp/B00BB0ETW8
OS disk: http://smile.amazon.com/SanDisk-Ultra-Low-Profile-SDCZ43-032G-G46-Version/dp/B00LLER2CS/
Put it all together, program your FLIRC on your desktop computer (laptop, whatever), copy embedded plex onto your crappy usb stick, boot from it, install onto your fancy usb stick, and off you go. Configure Plex for software decoding. It's in the video options somewhere.
The newer generation may have better CEC support. The one linked above does not have it.
This is neither free nor entirely uncomplicated, however it does avoid transcoding which is exchanging electricity for convenience. I have 1 client and 1 server. (Though now I use my TiVo BOLT which I highly recommend. The NUC is now extra.)
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Get a Raspberry Pi 3 B, or 3 B+(the B+ just has better wifi, and alittle more overclocked CPU), a 5 volt 2.5+amp power supply, and micro SD card is the minimum to get it all working. I would also invest in a case of some sorts, you should be able to pick a case up for around $5 more.
Here is a 3 B+ kit on Amazon, without case, and here is a 3 B kit on Amazon. You would just need to add a 4+ gig micro SD card to get either working.
You could get away with a Raspberry PI 0, but you would need some adapters for USB, and HDMI, which might save you a few $$, but it can also increase the headache level as some adapters do not play well.
Maybe! Check Great Scott on YouTube, he reviews a bunch of the fruit boards.
All else fails, this is $130 brand new. Double what you want to pay but it will do a lot more too... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XPVRR5M/
https://www.amazon.com/INTEL-NUC-Kit-Component-BOXNUC6CAYH/dp/B01MSZTD8N/ref=sr_1_7?s=pc&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1494856153&amp;sr=1-7&amp;keywords=nuc
something like this may be ideal, plex recomends a cpu benchmark of 2000 for ever hd transcode stream - and this puts you on the mark. http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=Intel+Celeron+J3455+%40+1.50GHz
> https://www.amazon.com/INTEL-NUC-Kit-Component-BOXNUC6CAYH/dp/B01MSZTD8N/ref=sr_1_7?s=pc&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1494856153&amp;sr=1-7&amp;keywords=nuc
Yea I was considering the Nucs, but then you have to add the memory and a HDD, I believe.
Though it would still be probably $200-250 I assume.
RPi3 is ARM; mailcow requires x86. It might work on an Intel based Compute Stick (make sure you don't get a 1st generation unit) or Intel NUC, but be ready to pay $120. Better yet, get a $5/month plan from Vultr or Linode to try it out (requires 1GB RAM).
https://github.com/andryyy/mailcow
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01AZC4NHS
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XPVRR5M
https://www.vultr.com/pricing
https://www.linode.com/pricing
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type|Item|Price
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CPU | Intel Pentium G3250 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor | $54.99 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard | MSI H81M-E34 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard | $40.99 @ NCIX US
Memory | Kingston HyperX Fury Black 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory | $16.98 @ Amazon
Storage | Sandisk SSD PLUS 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $42.92 @ Amazon
Case | Fractal Design Core 1100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case | $39.99 @ SuperBiiz
Power Supply | EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply | $20.98 @ Newegg
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $231.85
| Mail-in rebates | -$15.00
| Total | $216.85
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Something like this would be alright. you could still cut costs in some places, but i wouldn't really skimp on anything here. You'd also need to get windows for this build
If you wanted something good and cheap that would do the job and cost like 1/3rd of the price, get the Intel Compute Stick. It's a decent mini PC, like a bit bigger than a chromecast, and the best part is that it costs about the same as a windows license.
http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Boxed-Compute-Windows-Pre-Loaded/dp/B014N4CZE2/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1459089376&amp;sr=1-2&amp;keywords=Compute+stick
Hey! Saw you on SA too. You can run the Plex Media Player embedded client on a NUC. The NUC doesn't need to be both the server and the client, so option 2 is a wash.
You can get a bottom-tier NUC that's capable of decoding 4K content, so 1080p blu-rays shouldn't be a problem. Throw in 8GB of RAM, your old SSD, and boot the embedded client and you're done. The NUC will direct play everything off of your NAS/Plex Media Server.
It doesnt, but you could spend a little more for a NUC
Just purchased an Apex but I used a seneye for about two years. To get around the whole extra addons for Monitoring I purchased a Small Mini PC and connected the Seneye to that and installed Windows on it and the software runs on that box. You can use another PC to remote into that box to manage it. The only draw back is if a power outage happen you would need to verify the PC started back up and the software started back up. This can be done automatically with some settings.
The slides are kinda expensive 120 a year and there is no forgiveness on when they expire. If you forget to change it the day that it expires than your without PH Monitoring. They also need about 72 hours of soaking. So you have to be ready on Day 27 to soak a new slide. I also wouldn't rely on the NH3 monitoring, it uses a formula to calculate NH3 by Monitoring Levels of NH4, over a year it has never registered correct NH3 even though I knew I had some NH3 in the tank which showed on a standard test.
When the slide expires it will still alert you on temperature but the PH Level just freezes along with NH3 or NH4, hence why you wont get any alerts.
https://www.amazon.com/Intel-NUC5CPYH-Graphics-2-5-Inch-BOXNUC5CPYH/dp/B00XPVRR5M/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1486655824&amp;sr=8-3&amp;keywords=Intel+Mini+Pc
A raspberry pi might be right up his alley. He can code it to do pretty much anything he can think up if he wants to, with a vibrant community. Don't forget an SD card!
If using it for any type of home server, I also recommend buying a case.
https://www.amazon.com/Miuzei-Raspberry-Heatsinks-Supply-Compatible/dp/B07BTHNW9W/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1540153043&amp;sr=8-3&amp;pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&amp;keywords=raspberry+pi+case&amp;dpPl=1&amp;dpID=51lQEWob8yL&amp;ref=plSrch
This one is AWESOME because it’s got active cooling. Literally cooled mine from 60c to 35c under load
I love this case, sort of a pain to put together, but sturdy and with 3 heatsinks and a fan...Case. And it comes with a power switch on the cord which is nice.
Yay! That’s the way to go, more customizable.
I ran mine with and without a heat sink, I like the peace of mind of a heat sink, although it’s not crucial. Here’s the case I got
Miuzei Raspberry Pi 3 B+ Case with Fan, 3 Pcs Heatsinks, 2.5A Power Supply for Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+, Compatible with Raspberry Pi 3 Model B, Raspberry Pi 2 Model B https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BTHNW9W/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_XvsVBb9MX8CHS
It comes with two heat sinks, a fan, and a power cord with a good voltage and on/off switch, it also just looks super cool.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-NUC-Kit-1-6GHz-Graphics-NUC5CPYH/dp/B00XPVRR5M/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1498325118&amp;sr=1-2&amp;keywords=intel+nuc
You can get an Intel NUC but you'll need to add storage and RAM
Greetings!
I got the two-way mirror from a glass company called Academy Glass.
You can find boards of wood from most hardware stores, such as Home Depot.
The wood glue, stain, varnish caulking, screws, and nails were purchased from my local RONA.
The television was a used television.
The Raspberry Pi, micro-SD card, and Raspberry Pi Case were all purchased off of Amazon.
My dad already had the tools I needed, but you can rent these from some hardware stores if you need them.
It says the large is available in ash just gotta change the option
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Quick Q, can this Mini-PC emulate games up to Gamecube and PS2 games?
Intel NUC NUC5CPYH, 4K Support via HDMI, Intel HD Graphics, SATA3 for 2.5-Inch HDD/SSD BOXNUC5CPYH
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XPVRR5M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_PX7RybFA523Z5
> ... she became suspicious and thought I was cheating on her.
Well, if that's an issue, then the existence of an encrypted directory or partition will likely cause even more suspicion.
> Maybe if I had a "family" computer that ran the media center ...
Wait ... surely you know that a Raspberry Pi 3 is more than adequate to run Kodi or a similar media presentation app?
Raspberry Pi 3 b+, just the board, no case ... $40.
A plastic case, fan, power supply and other stuff ... $17.
(I'm not advocating that you shop at Amazon, just some pretty pictures to show. Everyone has Raspberry Pis for sale ... shop around.)
A computer like this would replace any computer you're misapplying as a media server at the moment, and it has an HMDI plug that (unlike many such things) actually works, delivering 1920x1080 picture and sound.
For me this whole Raspberry Pi thing is completely astonishing. My first computer was an Apple II and it did almost nothing, slowly. A modern pencil sharpener has more raw processing power than my first computer. It was $1600 in 1977 dollars, much more in modern currency. And a computer like the Pi for $40 ... I'm astonished.
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Currently using a Braswell NUC with 8gb of RAM that gets up to 11w during peak usage, Plex and building VMs. I really like the power usage but I plan on buying two more to make a Docker cluster someday.
I had an old desktop that was about 100w idle so the power cost is less but I do miss the raw computing power of an i7. I only notice it when when I'm doing dev work and trying to stream 1080p on Plex.
so you're saying something like this plus installing windows?
This is the most affordable option, but I don't know if it has ABC's iView. If there are specific things you're looking for that Roku, GoogleTV and AppleTV don't have channels for, you can buy a small HTPC (example) and use it just for streaming. Often you can mount it to your TV and find a remote that lets you do whatever you want.
Why not something like an intel Nuc?
Chances are your dad won't be downloading, so I don't see him needing more than a 250gig SSD (should be the same price as both the HDD's you've given him)
$120 Intel NUC NUC5CPYH
$39 8 gig ram
$80 250gig SSD
$85 win 10
$324 for a good web browsing pc.
So if I don't intend to use it for streaming yet, I could go with something like this?
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Raspberry Pi 4 | $62.99
Case | $9.99
4 Bay HDD Enclosure | $109.99
2x Seagate IronWolf 4TB NAS HDD | $199.98
Total | $382.95
Does that seem about right?
I found one thread
https://www.reddit.com/r/PFSENSE/comments/a55xn1/another_hardware_q_fitlet2_or_jetway_jbc313u591w/
And then some useful comments on the Amazon page
https://www.amazon.com/fitlet-fitlet2-J3455-Barebone/dp/B078V6MT9D?ref_=ast_bbp_dp
aja pana, yo llevo rato haciendo custom builds y toda es avaina.
como todos los demas recomiendan, vete por una b350, ahora para traerlas a venezuela yo descubri unos couriers que cobran fijo sin comprar importacion.
https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GeForce-GT-640-vs-AMD-RX-Vega-8-Ryzen-iGPU/m7731vsm441833
aca una comparacion de un vega8 integrado contra tu tarjeta grafica. si quieres mantener el psu y la carcasa que tengas. hazlo, con 650w estas bien con un APU , aun si no es certificada (yo tengo una pc con una dedicada y un poco de vainas y el consumo llega a 500w, asi que no deberias tener problema con 650 no certificado).
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jJQGQZ
eso es lo que yo recomiendo, ahora, si quieres seguridad, compra una fuente de poder certificada bronze de 450w la mas barata que consigas
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/x9dhhy
podrias conseguir un 2400g o 3400g que tienen mejores graficas integradas y mas threads. por que ? 4 threads es suficiente para un jueguito esport, y trabajar, no ambas al mismo tiempo , un 3400g o 2400g te irian mejor para eso. Usa slickdeals.net y honey para buscar cupones y ahorrarte el costo.
ahora esto es improtante, los conectores en tarjeta madres de cpu que tienen 8 pines no te preocupes, es redudancia para mas cores, para un cpu de 4 cores como el 2400g y eso no hay problema con que uses los 4 pines solamente , pero obviamente no es lo ideal ( he hecho esto con un 1600x y es un poco inestable).
black friday no se si logres ver una oferta bastante buena pero yo al menos estoy usando honey y slickdeals, y r/buildapcsales para ver si veo precios en oferta.
Yo te recomiendo que si no te importa usado con ebay y eso, puedes conseguir buenos cpus ryzen 1st gen, yo al menos estoy vendiendo mi ryzen 1600x en 100$, con un cooler stock de amd y Apuesto los 2400g se consiguen a un precio mejorcito.
lo otro es que si quieres una pc que no esperas en el futuro meterle una tarjeta grafica, asrock vende una vaina llamada la deskmini (https://www.amazon.com/ASRock-System-DESKMINI-A300W-Max-32GB/dp/B07QSCCRC9), es una carcasa con fuente de poder y tarjeta madre en 150$, y despues de ahi tu agregas el cpu, ram, ssd (o hdd). y es del tama;o de un gamecube. para una pc para jugar esports no esta mal si usas un ryzen apu.
This kit used to be $48, not sure why the price jumped, but all you need is this + a usb webcam. I recommend Logitech. CanaKit Raspberry Pi 3 B+ (B... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BC6WH7V?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Oh, and you’ll need a micro sd. Doesn’t need to be huge. 8gb would be fine.
We have high frequency RFID cards so the reader was a lil pricey
I can't find the exact pi kit we got but it came with this model and stuff
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a mere $223.59 before shipping
https://www.amazon.com/Intel-NUC5CPYH-Graphics-2-5-Inch-BOXNUC5CPYH/dp/B00XPVRR5M/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1503095638&amp;sr=1-3&amp;keywords=intel+nuc
$70 less than an Apple TV.
I have the D54250WYK1 and I can confirm it's pretty powerful. I run linux (Ubuntu Server) on it and everything worked flawlessly out of the box. I run some game servers on it (minecraft, ark survival evolved) it as well as a plex server and a few other things. It can handle quite a bit. Great little machine.. though I'd recommend getting the version with the 2.5" expansion bay (link) just in case you ever need the extra storage.
Been running it for about two years 24/7/365 without a hitch.
They're a little expensive once you get the mSATA drive and RAM.. but good power for the price. On par with a good laptop.
I have no idea, you didn't ask for 4k. I searched for "celeron hd graphics 4k" and found e.g. this box with Celeron N3050, searched for "Celeron N3050" and found that it is from 2015. Maybe it doesn't work that well with Linux, but you can search for that on your own, if this box is something that you might even like. Maybe it is too small (no room for 10 harddisks), maybe it doesn't have something else that you need. Maybe you already have a great HTPC but it can't play 4k, and now a GPU might help, and you don't want to replace the whole mainboard.
Running a Celeron NUC (LINK) with 8GB of RAM and an SSD with the Aeotec stick for Z wave and Nortek stick for only Zigbee (I don't use it for Z wave).
I run Ubuntu Server 16.04 LTS with Docker. Currently have 32 containers going (a few don't run all the time) including Home Assistant, Node Red, Mosquitto, HADockermon, Google Assistant Webserver (essentially the HASSIO addon in its own container), MariaDB, InfluxDB, Grafana, and Unifi to name a few.
It will not play HDR but will play other 4k hevc 10bit content. If you plan on using 4k in the future, some of the apollo lake products have hdmi 2.0 via dp > hdmi 2.0 converter chip and some do not. Without hdmi 2.0 they are only capable of 4k @ 30hz instead of 60hz. This is the nuc I have. There were alot of problems originally with the dp > Hdmi 2.0 converter chip. They have to have firmware updates that can only be done in windows. Hopefully by now they are being shipped with the updated firmware.
https://www.amazon.com/INTEL-NUC-Kit-Component-BOXNUC6CAYH/dp/B01MSZTD8N/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1521223886&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=apollo%2Blake%2Bnuc&amp;dpID=41dZHytPdjL&amp;preST=_SY300_QL70_&amp;dpSrc=srch&amp;th=1
These are awesome: http://www.amazon.com/Foxconn-NTA350-0H0W-B-A-NA-Hudson-Booksize-Barebone/dp/B00556F8BU
Look for a mini barebones pc with an AMD 350 or 450. Drop in a HD and RAM and you're good to go.
The closest thing to this would be some sort of NUC, like this. However, you would probably be better off just buying an old laptop, and installing linux on that.
I'd go for a basic one like this, throw in a 120GB SSD, Windows 10, and a 8GB stick of RAM and be done with it.
Intel Compute Stick just about $130, plug into whatever HDMI port and add keyboard/mouse.
What about this? Or if it's going to constantly plugged in all the time I would actually suggest grabbing an Intel NUC and decking it out with a nice SSD.
I don't think Windows sticks don't go that cheap. Maybe when Windows 10 Mobile gets traction and mobile Xbox app supports streaming you might get what you want, but for now you need more than $100. As in: http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Boxed-Compute-Windows-Pre-Loaded/dp/B014N4CZE2/
Do you think something like this might do about the same job?
http://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-Intel-Barebone-Mini-PC-ZBOX-ID41-U/dp/B004WO8O9Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1346397245&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=zotac
The first time I picked up a Windows CE device in the early 90's I dreamed of a tiny PC in my pocket. A full blown workstation I carry with me. Ever since that time we have been on a march forward, a 20 parade of baby steps toward that eventual union of PC and pocket mobility (Got close with an OQO PC).
We all know that Intel's new mobile "Atom" chipsets come in an x64 flavor, work perfectly well in small 6 and 7 inch tablets, and have proven to be battery friendly. The new 14nm Airmont x5 and and x7 chips are expected to make a release in in Q2 of 2016, with CPU frequencies reaching 3Ghz and decent Intel HD GPU performance.
A quad core Atom X64 phone running full windows 10 Pro/Enterprise is absolutely within the realm of possibility; even the new high end smart phones (like the 950/xl) have liquid cooling solutions, and the new snapdragons have the same heat output as the Atoms, so the majority of the "major" problems are not serious.
This is the same Atom X7 that powers the Surface 3, this "system in a chip" could easily scale down to a 5.7" phone unit; you can also find the x64 atoms in Intel's compute sticks
I can only hope this is true; Personally I would jump on it. It would be the realization of a 23 year old dream... An x64 quad core, 5.7 4k display, 8GB ram, 512GB mSSD surface phone.... man what a great time to be alive!
I saw these recommended. Not sure the differences between xenon and i3
Think server
http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkServer-70A4001MUX-E3-1225v3-Desktop/dp/B00FE2G79C
This one I chose i3 + 8gb ram for 279.
http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkServer-70A4001LUX-E3-1225-Processor/dp/B00FE29IWK
Will these stream 4k?
Thanks, I missed that.
I'm actually leaning toward getting a mini-PC, like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Intel-NUC5CPYH-Graphics-2-5-Inch-BOXNUC5CPYH/dp/B00XPVRR5M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1502737670&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=nuc+mini+pc
That particular one may be a bit of overkill, though, so maybe something cheaper.
I was wondering if I could buy this barebones mini PC and use it with a Ryzen 7 2700 (65W)?
Officially, it is only supposed to support Ryzen APUs. I was wondering if it would work with a CPU without graphics.
I could use one of these adaptors to get a video output for setup. After that, it would just run as a headless machine. I'll be running a bunch of Docker containers, so I just want a small box with a lot of threads and RAM. I won't really need any graphics power. After setup, I will only be accessing the machine remotely.
Would this work?
Why not get a NUC. It's not that expensive and it might fit your needs better.
For what you outlined they almost all cover the bill. You don't need a 1080ti to hit up Youtube and you don't need an i-7 for multiple tabs.
This can do everything on your list, just add a SSD, RAM, and OS and you're under $300. If you want something beefier you can go down this road.
Don't have a NUC, but I do have a loaded Brix Pro i5. Let me know if you are interested.
So, while this device solution gives you the same function as the LiveU you still need some kind of some, mobile NIC, and data plan. If you're going worldwide you should just pick up the unlimited IRL global plan, which is an AT&T plan and would work in St Thomas and around the globe.
Heres a decently priced pi kit Just get a good microsd card to go along with it.
I'm looking online right now and found theses three. I guess that could work.
https://www.amazon.ca/Intel-BOXNUC6CAYH-NUC-Kit-Component-BOXNUC6CAYH/dp/B01MSZTD8N/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?keywords=intel+nuc&amp;qid=1555001347&amp;s=gateway&amp;sr=8-3
https://www.amazon.ca/Kingston-Digital-120GB-SA400S37-120G/dp/B01N6JQS8C/ref=pd_aw_fbt_147_img_2/145-3958742-3754805?_encoding=UTF8&amp;pd_rd_i=B01N6JQS8C&amp;pd_rd_r=bd72db35-5c79-11e9-a9d2-272f68b5c19c&amp;pd_rd_w=lZcIq&amp;pd_rd_wg=XJuaP&amp;pf_rd_p=318fc841-c654-436b-9e98-a4e2694ba626&amp;pf_rd_r=MFNKRJK4MCWAVX6BTVS3&amp;psc=1&amp;refRID=MFNKRJK4MCWAVX6BTVS3
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Not sure about that Atom, it's ultra low powered so you'd be relying on hardware accelerated video decoding, and I have no idea if the built-in graphics chip supports it (Google says maybe?).
I think this would be a perfect use case for the AMD Athlon 200GE, a very cheap but still quite fast dual core CPU with a fairly capable graphics chip. You could build such a system for about $150, the only downside is that it would be desktop sized. Building a small system would be more expensive, about $250 with the AsRock Deskmini A300 (bought that one recently and can definitely recommend it).
Intel NUCs are also a great option for this, like this one. The CPU and graphics are like 5x slower than the 200GE, but it should work fine for your use case. This will cost about $200 so I feel like AMD is a better option.
A micro PC with a rf keyboard/mouse controller running PHT. Also I'd go for wired rather than wireless network. It's hard to get the throughput for really high bitrate 4k sustained via wifi.
Depending on the keyboard/mouse you get you could also use something like this for light/midrange PC gaming.
http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Barebone-i5-4570R-Graphic-GB-BXi5-4570R/dp/B00HYEU0C8
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Keyboard-Multi-Touch-Touchpad/dp/B005DKZTMG
CanaKit Raspberry Pi 3 B+ (B Plus) with 2.5A Power Supply (UL Listed) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BC6WH7V?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf
Same one i just got
They don't. It's the Intel iris 6100 in this NUC
Intel NUC Kit NUC5i7RYH Barebone System BOXNUC5I7RYH https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00WAS1FX6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_EOKdBbH7FXZ99
They're just that much more efficient at h264
Just checked peak transcode in the last 30 days. I had 5 simultaneous transcodes and cpu was at 12% when it was happening
You can always run it in a virtual machine, or just buy a raspberry pi!
It doesn't, these little pc's were not meant to add extra parts like that: https://www.amazon.com/Intel-NUC5CPYH-Graphics-2-5-Inch-BOXNUC5CPYH/dp/B00XPVRR5M.
My ups does have a network port, I can look into that option if I can control each outlet individually.
Sounds like you want one of these: https://www.amazon.com/Supermicro-Rackmount-Barebone-Components-SYS-5018A-TN4/dp/B00FN1OQVA/
or roll your own with a 1u chassis, micro atx mobo (super micro lga1150’s are super cheap on eBay), some ram and ssd’s and You’re good to go.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07GNNM9SJ?psc=1&amp;ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title
Top hats are still 49$ on Amazon
I have two of the following as Ubuntu docker hosts (running plex with a 4TB USB attached for music/video), and a future CoreOS cluster - I need to migrate my Plex host.
NUC:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00XPVRR5M/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
Memory: 8GB
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CQ35HBQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
Storage:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01F9G414U/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
Ran me about $260.
Memory prices went up a bit. I bought pretty much the same hardware in 2016. The memory was 1/2 the price, and the SSD was 2/3rd the price.
Thanks for the response!!
So I was doing a lot of research... Do you think this would be a great solution for hardware? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FN1OQVA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
I have one of those laying around and it meets all my physical requirements (lots of network ports, rack mountable, cost under $1k).
Not sure that it will have enough processing power to run a plex media server - and if does, it probably won't transcode very well (that might not be an issue for you), or maybe you only need a plex player?
I recently setup an intel NUC (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00H3YT8CC) with plenty of power to transcode all levels of video, it's an amazing HTPC, silent, small, fantastic performance, no complaints, but it cost around $600 fully configured (8gigs ram, 120gb ssd, wifi/bluetooth).
One option is to go with a Synology. There are a lot of models to choose from, you could pick one with enough power. There are pros and cons with Synology. I used one for several years until a software update corrupted the raid. I had a backup, so not big deal, but my trust level in Synology went to zero.
Another option is a linux server. I got an Intel NUC (and 8gb ram + 128gb ssd):
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MSZTD8N/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
And this enclosure:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KCEAXJW/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
I now have everything I had with the Synology plus a whole lot more power and versatility. You could even bump up to the i3 for a little more. The great thing about these NUC's is they use very little power and are extremely reliable. I have several that have been running 24/7 for years without even a hiccup.
I'll probably make this a post of it's own, but for now it will be a comment in my own original thread, as after about a week and a half of research I have built what I consider a decent priced "all-in-one" Pi.
One thing I'd like to point out, is that you could get a lot of these for much cheaper, but only if ordering from china, so it's just a lot slower to receive, but no loss in quality or anything. I wanted to "splurge" a little, and get everything fast, so made US only purchases.
Item | Store
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3.5 HDMI LCD + Case | eBay
Raspberry Pi 3 B+ & Charger | Amazon
Micro SD Card | Amazon
Mini USB Microphone | Amazon
Pi Cooler | Amazon
I went with a ThinkServer TS140 (Passmark Score 7017). 3 1080p transcode streams on Plex.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FE2G79C?keywords=thinkserver%20ts140&amp;qid=1448996100&amp;ref_=sr_1_2&amp;sr=8-2
1 x ThinkServer TS140 = $345.49
1 x 16GB USB Drive = $17.48
3 x 4GB ECC Ram = $104.61
2 x 4TB WD Red Drive = $317.38
Total = $784.96
The Gigabyte Brix it's relatively cheap, and the MSI Cubi is also a great deal. I would look at both to see if they are cheaper than the Intel NUC. For example, you may be able to get the Core i3 versions of the Brix or Cubi cheaper than the NUC.
I'll recommend exactly what I got: ThinkServer TS140 with a Xeon E3. Now, that may seem a bit overkill, but for us it's been absolutely perfect doing:
But the most important feature: It's dead silent. I mean really, with absolutely nothing else on in the room, I have to get within three feet to barely hear the CPU's fan even when it's ramped up to 100% on all four cores at 3.6 GHz, transcoding new Blu-ray remuxes to generate media index files, thrashing a few dozen torrents, and Steam hammering the bandwidth downloading games to the SSD.
It's a terrific little beast. The HDD it comes with isn't too great (500 GB, 5400 RPM), so I threw an EVO 850 Pro in for Windows 8.1 Pro, Steam, and Plex's metadata, while all torrents go through a 500 GB WD Black laptop drive I had sitting around. The 4 GB of RAM it came with has been plenty so far, but I'm looking to upgrade as there have been a couple of moments when it ran dangerously low due to one roommate or another leaving Chrome open overnight with a few dozen tabs open.
I'm using a 2.5 amp power adapter from CanaKit. This is the Raspberry Pi/adapter combo that my wife bought me: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BC6WH7V/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1. I haven't looked but I imagine you can buy the adapter by itself.
You could use a BrewPi (or build one). You’ll have to connect it to a RaspberrPi. You’ll also have to build a power cord with a couple SSRs but it’ll allow you to control everything individually. It’ll also log any temps you have a temp probe connected to.
I'm using a Supermicro quad core Intel Atom server running PFSense.
This one in particular: http://amzn.com/B00FN1OQVA
I've got this one and it plays back anything I throw at it. As long as the graphics card is doing the work, it's no problem.
To those doubting low end gear-
I've played and hosted warframe lobbies on a bay trail 2gb tablet just fine. Min settings, windowed mode with a probably 640 x 480, 30-45ish fps. Darn thing just worked. None of the clients could tell the difference on their end.
https://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-Encore-WT8-A32M-8-Inch-Tablet/dp/B00G1YKHHA
Other things I've run warframe on:
An 8 year old amd 4850 can push between 60 and 170 fps on min settings, 1440 x 900 resolution depending on how much crap is going on.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/ATI-Radeon-HD-4850-Computer-Graphics-Cards/27386/bn_2774382/i.html
Iris pro 5200 integrated graphics easily pushes 60+ fps at min settings, 1080p.
https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Barebone-i5-4570R-Graphic-GB-BXi5-4570R/dp/B00HYEU0C8
Just ordered one! I had been waiting for all of this to get sorted out, but I guess this works too. We'll have to wait and see if these all get delivered on time. I ordered a limestone with a medium tophat.
Edit: Links for those that are having trouble finding it:
Ghost, Tophats
They sell a lot of them because people recycle them...
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00XPVRR5M/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1487264446&amp;sr=8-3&amp;pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&amp;keywords=nuc&amp;dpPl=1&amp;dpID=41a70VMrYHL&amp;ref=plSrch
I don’t understand why these classic consoles are in such high demand when you could spend less for a raspberry pi, SD card, a 3D printed console case AND get thousands of games across multiple systems.
pi:
Case