Best birdcages according to redditors
We found 339 Reddit comments discussing the best birdcages. We ranked the 95 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the top 20.
We found 339 Reddit comments discussing the best birdcages. We ranked the 95 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the top 20.
That's so awesome, I'm happy for you and Buttons! If I could suggest a cage, I just got this one in anticipation of my next baby. It seems like a great bang for your buck and the small flaws it has (mostly the spring loaded doors) are an easy fix. I put it together myself without much hassle in about 1-2 hours last night.
Here's a thought- does your friend like birds?
Because if she can afford it, something like this with a little flock of small birds wouldn't be an obvious attempt at deterring the MIL, but it TOTALLY would.
I'd recommend either budgies or finches. Budgies are more sociable and really should be allowed to fly around a room (although for 4-6 budgies in a huge flight cage like the one I'm suggesting, that wouldn't be super necessary.) Finches are pretty hands-off, you mostly just keep them fed, clean their cage, and let them do their own thing.
(I swear I actually really love birds. I've had budgies since I was four. They're awesome little animals that are pretty easy to tame/care for. But they aren't for everyone, and that can be used to your advantage.)
I would say a cage like [this] (https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00176F5L0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_nlprDb4JXKD81) is strongly recommended for happy lovebirds, unless you’re letting them free roam your house a few hours a day and the cage is for sleeping only.
That's her travel cage. She has a much, much larger cage that she sleeps in at night, and a medium sized one that I take along with her travel cage when we skip town for a few days. When we're home, she's generally out of her cage on one of her two giant manzanita trees. Yes...she has two.
She won't use huddle huts, and even if she did I wouldn't give her one. They trigger nesting behavior in hens and can lead to egg laying, which can in turn lead to calcium deficiency at best and fatal egg binding at worst.
If it were 50, I'd put a blanket over her and be done, but my glass of water on the coffee table literally froze overnight. Not completely, but enough to form a skin. I don't care how many blankets you put over a cage, unless you happen to own a Quaker, that's too cold for a bird.
I appreciate your concern, but I've had Kai for almost ten years. I know how to take care of her.
Yaheetech 70'' Pet Bird Cage Play... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VWLEC00?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
They each have their own cage. Atm, Yuki’s is a lot smaller than I’d like, which is why I’m working on a small fundraiser. Tbh he wasn’t planned, I got him because he was basically dying and that was a spare cage I was given. But Tanpopo has a large flight cage full of toys and food. Here’s a link to it.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002AQ228/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_Q5EZCbYTX9SSQ
The best idea is to go as big as possible. I have two parakeets in this cage, and they seem pretty happy in it, because there's plenty of room for them to fly around and also have plenty of toys and perches! I got rid of the dowels and put natural manzanita wood branches in.
https://www.amazon.com/Prevue-Hendryx-F050-Products-Hammertone/dp/B0002AQ228/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=prevue+parakeet+flight+cage&link_code=qs&qid=1558140390&s=gateway&sr=8-1
Here you go, the large is a very good size and only $106, the xl would be even better
Prevue Pet Products Wrought Iron Flight Cage with Stand F040 Black Bird Cage, 31-Inch by 20-1/2-Inch by 53-Inch https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00176F5L0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_nHf0CbYWXT00D
Errmygerd I seriously can't handle the tiny banana beaks. :D Kevin's was equally nubby and derpy back then and I miss it!
Anyway, congrats on the new addition! I love seeing people take the plunge into aracari/softbill ownership. Based on our experiences with Kevin these last three years I can offer some tips and tricks. None of these are not hard and fast rules, just things that we have settled on after lots of trial-and-error. :P
Mess.
The benefits of a sheet, for us at least, are its ease of cleaning (just throw it in the wash once a month) and how it keeps things in the cage or off the floor (you can wrap the bottom of the sheet up around the legs of the cage to create a "pouch" that catches falling poops, tossed food, and water that's being splashed around). Speaking of water, keeping acrylic nice and water spot free could be a challenge if your girl turns out to be anything like Kevin. He bathes daily and each time makes sure to completely drain his bowl.
Though if you are really super turned off by the idea another option is hanging something like a curtain behind the cage against the wall. Or even lining your walls with the acrylic/plexiglass. Finally, if you do decide to cover the actual cage with acrylic panels be cognizant of good air flow.
Food.
I also feed him fresh greens once or twice a week and a little dab of palm/coconut oil mixed into his food every day. The greens are necessary because he seems to crave something fibrous without them and the oil I keep doing because his plumage has only gotten better and better over the years and I can't imagine it hurts.
General Advice?
Whew, now that's a wall of text. Anyway, enjoy your new baby! Cherish the nub-beak and big ol' black baby eyes while you can :)
This cage is great value for the price, if you can afford it. It has the added bonus of being eligible for Amazon Prime. Even if you don't have it, sign up for the 30-day free trial so you can get it in a couple of days.
Regarding food, Harrison's makes organic pellets. My board-certified avian vet strongly recommends Harrison's and my birds love it. There are guidelines regarding conversion on the package itself. My birds were never on a seed diet but I did have to convert them from ZuPreem's colored pellets (side note: don't give them that, the artificial coloring and added sugars are bad. I didn't know at the time.).
I switched them cold turkey after making them some Birdie Bread. Harrison's sells a mix online that you can prepare at home. They loved it and I think the pellets smell similar, so they had no issues converting.
For fruits/veggies/etc, I had to teach my sun conure to eat them. The method I found most effective = eating whatever I want her to eat and pretending it is the most delicious thing EVER. Take a bite out of that carrot stick and make the most overexaggerated ecstatic sounds/expressions you can. Don't offer them a piece til they come over to investigate, then let them have a bite or put it in a treat dish.
For toys: mysafebirdstore.com has great prices on toy parts. Drs. Foster and Smith are another online company that occasionally has good deals. I'm wary of buying toys at pet stores due to the risk of disease transmission. Petsmart had a huge issue with psittacosis, which is transmissible to humans as well as birds.
For taming, start by spending time near them. Carry on reading/working/watching TV/whatever in the same room with them. Leave the door open to see if they want to come hang out with you. Offer them sunflower seeds or millet from your hands. This process may take a while (weeks to months, maybe longer), especially since they are already bonded.
Congrats on your new feathered friends. It looks like they've found their way into a wonderful home.
Clicker training is supposed to be great though I'm too lazy to work on it. /u/cpxh would be a good resource for that.
I would think this is not big enough.
The page shows that this is a finch/canary size cage.
My cockatiel has a rather large cage. In fact, it used to be my Senegals cage. It's about 22" wide and 45" tall by 18" deep.
You can find very good and inexpensive larger cages now where it used to take a lot of money to get a big cage.
The cage you are looking at doesn't have enough room for perches and toys or food dishes.
This size isn't a bad size for a cockatiel. I can't speak on the cage itself or how it's built but the size isn't horrible. I prefer them wider personally.
Ok so this is a huge cage. it's not horribly expensive and if you have the space you would have a very happy 'tiel. This is the smallest cage that, imho, would work for a 'tiel.
You could use the other one as a sleepy-time cage. My bird sleeps in our bedroom so we have a small cage for her to sleep in.
I have a screened backpack that works well for short trips. It's this kind:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0714KS7LP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_379EDbFVE562J
This!
I bought this bird cage for my cockatiel a little while ago and it's been the best investment I've made for him. He has plenty of space to climb and flap around, though I usually let him out an about in my room.
https://www.amazon.com/Prevue-Products-Wrought-F040-31-Inch/dp/B00176F5L0/
For two budgies, this would easily be a paradise.
Since it's within your price range, I highly recommend the HQ Flight Cage, available on amazon.
Edit: I'm back on my computer now, here's the link http://www.amazon.com/HQ-Flight-Multi-Purpose-Aviary/dp/B002UTZ040/ref=sr_1_1?s=pet-supplies&ie=UTF8&qid=1408855589&sr=1-1&keywords=hq+cage
Get him a new cage asap. It's far too small, plus it's round which can contribute to their stress and anxiety (they need corners to feel secure). Something like this.
Get him plenty of toys, macaws are highly intelligent and will get destructive if bored. Also keep in mind he's going to need a lot of attention, the bigger parrots are basically toddlers in that they're loud, needy, but learn fast, and can be charming. Be careful of him bonding to you, if this is just temporary, it'll be devastating to him if he's taken away. I don't know about macaws specifically, but a lot of parrots when stressed and unhappy will pluck out their feathers, it's essentially like humans cutting themselves. And definitely keep him away from your parakeets, he can easily kill them. Singing to each other from their cages is one thing but I wouldn't let them interact other than that. Best of luck.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0714KS7LP?pf_rd_p=f3acc539-5d5f-49a3-89ea-768a917d5900&pf_rd_r=XPVTWZ041Q9FWD0J7J7V
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This is the one I bought and it’s really easy to put together
Keep checking up on lost bird websites and your local animal shelters. If it's someone's pet, they've lost one of their best friends.
But that being said, I applaud you for taking he/she in even without having had a bird pet before. Green Cheek Conures(GCC) are sweet little devils that are pretty easy to maintain once you get into a routine.
Start by taking him to the Vet, they can gender-test, check up, and see if any local owners have lost a GCC. I'm not sure how big that cage is, but the minimal size of cage should be it's wingspan wide, and tall enough to climb around. The Vision M02 is a solid cage for a GCC, and filling it with toys, swings, and chewys will keep your guy entertained and happy while you're away. I'm not too keen on GCC diet, so please defer to some of the more enlightening posts here on that.
When you're at home, your bird should really be out of the cage, sitting near/on you. This strengthens his/her bond with you, and teaches them that your are: 1- Not a threat, but a friend, 2- The bringer of treats, scratches, and fun, and 3- Their best buddy and flock friend. One of the cooler things about the Conure family is their love of laying down. Most other bird species hate being put on their backs, but Conures can grow to love it, and will often lay down in your hand and fall asleep.
However, since this guy is a full-blooded parrot, you're going to have to deal with the noise. He will screech and whistle at an ear-splitting level. There are ways to help cut down on the amount of screeching, but bare in mind that it's hardwired in him/her, there's no stopping it. The two best ways to minimize it is to always be with him/her when you're home(never just leaving them in the cage), and to occasionally make them forage for food. This can be done with foraging toys or by making your own forage box. In the wild, birds have to forage for food, and the new convenience of an always-filled food bowl will make them grow restless, and bored.
We look for to seeing more of your new friend!
I think that's a good plan. If you have access to Amazon, I can't recommend this birdcage enough. I have gotten one for all my birds and most recently my 2 English budgies upgraded and they think it's the best thing ever. The rolling ability rocks and this thing is HUGE for the price you are paying.
Don't get discouraged...the people on this subreddit and /r/parrots are really helpful and supportive. I'm really happy you are looking for advice and talking with people about what to do to make your bird happy and healthy. That shows you care.
Alright for cage you want something big, gccs need more space than cockatiels, my suggestion is 24 inch square or bigger in any measurement, my cage is like 24x24x30 with 30 being the height, they prefer taller cages. This is the cage I bought and I wouldn't recommend anything much smaller: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002SMC25E/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
A cage that size will generally run you between $100-300 depending on where you get it from. Most perches come with the hardware to easily install on the bars of a cage. You want many different styles of perches. Make sure it has several natural wood ones with varying thicknesses in the branches, get a bendable rope perch, and possible some time of swing perch that involves more coordination to sit on. You can get a perch that is rough to wear down nails if you want but make sure the perch is smooth on the top and only rough on the sides, and make sure it is cement and not sand or grit covered because green cheeks don't need grit like some other species of birds do and it can harm them.
For toys get lots of different things, plastic, leather, shreddable ones made from soft wood or palm fronds. Do your research and make sure anything you give your bird is safe and non-toxic obviously. Get him toys you could hide little treats in to help with foraging. If he is searching his toys for treats he won't be as bored if he has to spend a little extra time in the cage one day.
For food don't use seeds/seed mixes for anything other than treats really. A good pellet mix like Harrison's, Roudybush, or Zupreem is best. Try for something not colored/fruity flavored, I use Harrison's lifetime adult fine for my green cheek, the pellets are pretty small so they work well for a small conure like a green cheek. Here is the link where I bought those, they are also on amazon though: http://store.harrisonsbirdfoods.com/ADULT-LIFETIME-FINE/productinfo/ALF/
Other than pellets provide lots of veggies and some fruits. Its diet should be 50% pellets, 30% veggies, 10% fruits, and then the last 10% is spread among grains (cooked brown rice, cooked quinoa, cooked whole grain pasta) and treats (nuts, seeds, etc.). I make chop for my green cheek. I use a base of kale, spinach, or other healthy leafy greens, then I add in veggies like broccoli, carrots, bell peppers, jalapenos, peas, etc. I chop them all up somewhat small and then put it in a food processor until its very fine. If your bird won't eat the chop you make, mix it in with pellets and only offer pellets when it is mixed with the chop 2-3 times per day. You don't have to limit the amount of food your bird eats, they eat as much as they need. Just see about how much it is eating and offer that much so yo don't have a lot of wasted food. Don't offer the same chop/pellet mix after one day, the chop should be refrigerated so after one day it is best to toss it and offer fresh. You can also offer bigger chunks of veggies on a stainless steel skewer that you can hang in the cage. I do this a lot and put some blueberries, bell peppers, and spinach leaves so I know my bird is eating both his chop and his veggies in several ways, it helps with enrichment.
That's about all I got, sorry it was such a lot to read but I hope it helps! Let me know if you have questions :)
It's the HQ double flight, minus the stand and divider :)
Thanks!
Its a Prevue empire macaw cage
Linked to Amazon for details but can be found cheaper if you search around.
Very easy to setup
Prevue Pet Products SP42614-4 Flight Cage, Brown/Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00SK7HOYA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_V1fWDbQ6VWWKS
This is the cage I bought. So far no problems
Awesome! So a typical flight cage is usually 18-22 inches high and 2-4 feet long. It's just to let them fly around a little while they're not out. It's a totally acceptable all the time cage too :)
I'm excited for you! Budgies are great. I'll see if I can find anyone who's looking to get rid of theirs. I'm looking (eventually) to get rid of one of my flight cages in the near future, but I'm waiting a bit to find the right fit for what I want (double or stacking cage since I have two birds). It's really big for a budgie, taller than wider, and fantastic pricing, pretty decent construction to cost, not the best, not the worst, just don't transport it a lot like I do because it can get bent.
Feel free to message anytime!
So... about 4'x2' I'm guessing.
I assume it's the LENGTH that is the main issue. If you went only 1 more foot in depth, you could accommodate 6 finches. One more foot sticking out could likely be accommodated in a small space - even if it means rearranging something. (like, if you're fitting it on a table, sticking out 6 inches on either side won't make it structurally unsound) Failing that, you could try adding height to your cage. It's less ideal than length but still more useful than nothing.
Hi there! Parakeets are so misunderstood. Depending on how you train and raise them, they can act like a fun cuddly dog, or like a boring fish. If you want him to be a fun exciting pet, here's what you should do:
1.) Week 1, don't touch him. It's tempting to reach in there, but don't do it. He's scared as hell of being dropped into a new environment and you will only add to him being scared. Trust me on this, it gives him time to get used to the natural noises of your house. Instead, go about your normal routine around him, but stop and talk to him and get him used to your voice.
2.) After 1 week, start putting your hands into the cage - and by this I mean literally just putting your hand in and fiddling with things, getting them close to him, but don't touch him. This establishes that the cage is yours and he's just living in it. It will help with respect a lot later. Partway through 2nd week, work on getting him to climb onto your finger. Place your finger directly in front of his belly and say "up." If he does it, put him back on the perch, praise him, and give him some millet as a treat. Do this over and over. Birds LOVE repetition. Once he seems comfortable with this (about week of doing this), use this same method to take him out. Once you get to this point he will be more comfortable with the idea of hanging out with you.
3.) There are pros and cons of having his wings clipped. I've always clipped my bird's wings and that would be my recommendation (it doesn't hurt if a professional does it, it's like a haircut). So I won't give any advice on this except that you should definitely take into consideration if he has a safe enough environment to NOT clip his wings. If you do let him fly around your garage, make sure you "baby proof" it just like you would with a child, but vertically as well. Tools will need to be put away, check for holes or places he could crawl into where you won't be able to get to him.
4.) See #3.
5.) Parakeets are perfectly fine being alone during the day. Make sure he has 3-4 toys in his cage and that you rotate them every 1-2 weeks so he doesn't get bored. When you get home, give him attention. Aim for at least 30min of complete attention per day at a minimum. If no one in the house is home during the day, put the radio or TV on, they like the noise. Speaking of, they LOVE being the center of attention, I'd recommend you put him in a high traffic area of the house if you can.
6.) I have a very well trained parakeet and haven't been able to potty train. What you can do is try treating him for pooping inside the cage before he comes out which helps. You can expect he will go every 10 min or so. You can always pt a towel down anywhere you take him out if it bothers you.
7.) I wouldn't worry about it, he can probably get to it just fine especially since his wings aren't clipped.
8.) I agree with @FlyingPhotog for this. Also recommend searching google for foods that are ok and poisonous for birds. Giving him some human foods can extend his life.
9.) Additional tips:
-Be careful of drafts. Birds are sensitive to cold air blowing on them. Keep his area a consistent temperature and put a towel over the cage at night (this will also help with noise btw, they are pretty good about sleeping whenever it's dark.)
-Be careful of harmful chemicals. Any pesticides, air fresheners, candles nearby can be harmful
-Don't let him out if anyone is cooking. Seems self explanatory, but most bird deaths are caused by them flying into boiling pots of water because their owners were careless :-(
-Cages: Stupidly, every goddam pet store on the planet sells cages with vertical bars (like this:https://www.amazon.com/Prevue-Hendryx-Triple-Cockatiel-White/dp/B005S6V4QK/ref=sr_1_2?s=pet-supplies&ie=UTF8&qid=1468628422&sr=1-2&keywords=parakeet+cage), but they very much prefer the horizontal bars (like this: https://www.amazon.com/Vision-Bird-Cage-Model-M01/dp/B000K67UF2). It will be harder to find but it is much easier for them to climb. I found my Vision one at PetSmart. This particular one also helps keep seeds in.
-I also totally recommend you put pellets on the bottom of the cage (like this http://www.petsmart.com//WFS/PETUS/en_US/-/USD/-zid36-4226/cat-0-catid-0?green=F0B73A16-ADD9-5A58-9BE0-EA09D3A310B1). It's something I've started doing within the last year and it's helped a ton with keeping the area around the cage clean.
-Get him comfortable with you before you have other people hold him
-Be confident. I'm not sure how they do it, but it always seems birds can tell if the person handling them is not confident and they will act up. It's like racing any other animal, you show them you're in charge and they'll respect you for it
-Give him kisses and chat with him. He'll start to chat back. Parakeets won't talk like big parrots do, but they do "chat" and repeat things you say. It's so cute.
Have fun! Parakeets make for fun, adorable, and convenient pets if you put the time in. Love him and he will love you back! Good luck!
This cage is very nice and probably the best option https://www.amazon.com/Prevue-Products-Wrought-F040-31-Inch/dp/B00176F5L0
And this is another cage that could work I think https://www.amazon.com/Prevue-Products-Flight-Cage-White/dp/B001NPX5BC/ref=mp_s_a_1_17?keywords=prevue+bird+cage&qid=1562041913&s=gateway&sprefix=prevue+&sr=8-17
Hullo. I actually do have the same cage though it is to house a single conure. For two diamond dove, I would recommend a bigger cage. I am a big fan of this cage from the same company.
It was a pretty good cage for my Green Cheek, but I ended up upgrading him to a bigger one. This is the one I ended up buying. The bars are little for flimsy, but not enough to effect anything. I would consider some flight space for your budgies!
This is just my two cents, but for a brand new GCC, this cage looks great. Especially if he gets lots of out of cage time. If he's going to be in there more often than not, then I'd suggest an upgrade when you can. This is the cage I have my GCC Bob in, and he loves it. He is out of his cage pretty much all day right now, but last semester that wasn't the case, and it won't be the case next semester, so it's good to have extra space for them. Here is another example of a good sized cage that he would love. For the record, I don't think Bob will be getting another cage for any reason other than if his current one breaks, so no worry about getting a new cage every year. I had him in a cage about the same size as yours when I first got him at 8 weeks old, and he did fine in it. It just became apparent that he would probably like some more room, so when I had some spare cash, I upgraded it for him.
As for your cuddle tent thingy, when I first got Bob, he LOVED it. Every night when I would put him in to bed, he would jump right in his tent and make all sorts of cute little chirpy noises. We've had him for about 8 months, and he's pretty much indifferent to it now and sleeps on a perch, though I've not noticed a safety issue with it thus far. Your bird may differ, but that's what mine did.
Edit: I forgot to link the other cage. Fixed now.
You should go for something like this: http://www.amazon.com/Prevue-Products-Wrought-F040-31-Inch/dp/B00176F5L0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1426634433&sr=8-1&keywords=large+bird+cage
With a little perch rearrangement and other stuff, something like that should be fine. However, if you can find or build something bigger, better yet!
If you go for a cage, though, be sure to tame them so they can have some time outside (in a closed, safe room) to fly around.
This is the cage I use.
I actually have 2 of them, one for both my tiel and GCC, and they both love them.
It's a pain in the ass to put together, and the spring doors on the side can be a problem (zip tied them shut), but it's overall pretty good for it's price.
I got my two budgies this cage!
It may seem like overkill, but I will never have budgies in a cage smaller than this ever again. It's decked out with tons of enrichment toys (shredding, foraging, ect). They absolutely love it.
Theres a ton of room for different sized perches, and lots of space. But of course since it's mating season, my budgies still get occasionally annoyed at each other over toys and such. It happens.
But for real, I would 100% recommend upgrading to something this size. And this is probably the best price for a cage this size. Trust me, you won't regret it once you see how much fun it is for them!!
this is the cage I have for my 2 budgies. It has plenty of space for the two of them, plenty of perches and toys, and it’s big enough to where if they’re feeling more independent they have plenty of individual space too. I see a lot of other people with this cage as well. I honestly wouldn’t buy any other cage than this because it just works so perfectly.
Yeah a bigger cage ASAP this one is good and cheap http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B002UTZ040/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?qid=1398632507&sr=8-6&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70
Prevue is a popular brand, though they have a very wide range of quality and purpose.
Here is what I’d recommend:
Prevue Pet Products Square Roof Parrot Cage, Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0040QJ4Y8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_VRiQAbN0ZKJXQ
Plenty of height to allow two “layers” as well as the bottom, sliding door access for food/water bowls (important for being able to change out food/water without disturbing a bird that’s not comfortable), slide-out bottom tray (again, same with regards to bird comfort but also convenience).
The size is above minimum. Bigger is better but honestly, a cockatiel combined with plenty of outside cage time make it unnecessary.
I have a double flight cage that is like this. I got it when adopted GCCs that I wasn't sure would get along, and they did, so they shared the whole thing together without using the divider, which was really overkill. They could have easily shared a single flight cage.
Maybe something like this would be closer to what you're looking for? https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00CTTCBKW/ref=mp_s_a_1_27?ie=UTF8&qid=1494874563&sr=8-27
Gonna pick this apart bit by bit:
> my girlfriend and I
Who you share a living space with is the first important factor in this decision - is it just you two (any kids/pets?)? And is your relationship pretty low-drama and stable enough that separating wouldn't feasibly be on the table? Reasons there are noise and bonds: noisy environments (crying kid, barking dog, arguing couple etc) are super stressful for a bird, which can lead to (expensive) health problems with it. Your bird will also reciprocate that noise with its own squawks, which makes those situations all the more maddening. Regarding the bond - if you only get one bird, it will bond to you and your GF. If the two of you then separate, your bird will essentially lose a third of it's flock, which they tend not to handle very well (queue the stress/health problems).
> looking to get a cockatiel. ... it's the kind bird we enjoy a lot. So we're kinda set on those already.
Different species have very different personalities - what is it you like a cockatiels? While those generally are recommended as a somewhat more forgiving species for inexperienced owners (they're a good option), there might be better options for you specifically, depending on what you're looking for in a bird.
> We want one because we'd like to have it chat with us ... and be able to talk back to it.
Cockatiels aren't great talkers. Something like this is about the best talking I've seen a cockatiel do. They kind of warble moreso than talk - they get the syllables right, but the annunciation is only really good enough to tell what they're trying to say. Mostly cockatiels just whistle - they can do that pretty well!
Also, if you're going for speech, you'll want to make sure you get a male. Female cockatiels are much quieter, and don't do near as much mimicking. You might get the occasional whistle out of a female, but they generally just chirp or stay silent. That said, birds are very much individuals - you could end up with a quiet male or noisy female, but in general, you'll want a male for chatting. (to my knowledge, that applies to parrots in general, not just 'tiels).
Also, talking generally takes a lot of time to develop. For conures, which are a bit smarter than 'tiels, they don't generally start talking until they're around 4 years old, so 'tiels might take even longer.
I had three cockatiels growing up - two females that only ever chirped; and a male who'd never shut the hell up (he'd wolf whistle. all. day. long.) ...all three were rescues though, so no idea how old they were.
If you want a parrot that talks, the larger ones are the way to go - African Greys, or Macaws, for example, can develop actual vocabularies -- i.e., they can learn what "food" means, and actually ask for it when they're hungry; whereas most parrots can learn to say the word "food" but it's just mimicry (they have no clue what they're actually saying). Buuuut I definitely DO NOT recommend getting one of those as a starting bird. Train those wrong and it could cost you a finger. Speaking for myself (having spent my entire life around small to medium sized parrots) even I wouldn't feel comfortable getting a Grey or Macaw without a lot of supervision from a professional breeder or trainer.
> and get used to us enough so we can have it sit on our shoulder
Just about any bird can be trained to do that. Generally the larger the bird, the more intelligent (and therefore trainable) it is. Even parakeets/budgies (the smallest [and dumbest] species of parrot) can be fairly easily trained to do that. Hell I've even seen finches (not parrots, but basically a standard cotton ball with feet and a beak) do that.
> I don't think we'll be permitted to keep one in this apartment.
In my experience, apartments are really inconsistent when it comes to birds. Some places (even if they accept cats and dogs) will outright refuse to permit a bird; others couldn't care less, and don't even consider it a 'pet' when it comes to monthly pet fees. Others will allow them, but charge a ridiculous fee for it. Definitely check with your landlord.
> we're looking to get a single bird. ... Will it get lonely? We'll be working about 6 to 8 hours a workday but elsewise we're usually home.
It will. You can offset that with a good cage setup and making sure to keep some music or something on when you're gone to keep it entertained.
Regarding the cage, beware of bullshit. I've heard MANY pet stores recommend "two times its wingspan" is the standard to shoot for with size. THAT IS NOT ENOUGH SPACE! It needs to be able to actually fly a bit within the cage.
I'd recommend something like this as a minimum. Or something like this this if you really want to give it a mansion (bugs me that the second one says says it's suitable for a macaw. that's way too small for a macaw.).
Keep plenty of toys in the cage, but not so many that it doesn't have room to fly. Also make sure perch size is suitable for its feet; but that the perches vary in size a bit so it's not always grabbing the same diameter (can lead to health issues).
Make a habit of opening the cage as soon as one of you gets home. Let the bird decide when it wants to chill out in it vs on your shoulder (once it gets to know you, it will prefer your shoulder 99% of the time), but the only time it should be locked in is when no one's home to supervise it, or overnight, etc.
> Thirdly (is that a word?), what is the right thing to do in the beginning when we have the space and permission? Do we contact the first and foremost store, or do we contact private breeders? We'd like a young one, preferably as young as legally able, since I think it's easier to make it get used to us, but is that correct?
Couple approaches here, and I'll start with the one you didn't mention, which is finding a rescue (parrot that was previously owned by someone else, and for whatever reason needs a new home). This can be risky, since you don't know how the previous owner treated/trained it, but if you can find one that was brought up well (if it's sociable and not aggressive/bitey) then that can be a great option, since the bird needs a home anyway, and you won't have to train it from scratch. Just make sure you have an opportunity to get to know the bird (and it you!) before committing to it: training away bad behavior that's been set in for years is almost impossible. Check with your local humane society and vet clinics to get insight on local options for parrot rescues.
Next up is a breeder. You're correct that the younger you can get a bird, the better - it'll have a much stronger bond/trust with you the closer you can get it from the egg. Baby birds require a lot of specialty care though, you you'll probably need to wait until its "weened" before the breeder is willing to send it home with you (infact if they don't require that, they're a shitty breeder - find another). During the weening process, they'll probably permit you to visit the bird - if you do this a couple times a week, it'll be used to you before you bring it home, which makes the transition MUCH easier for it.
Now-a-days, a lot of breeders have deals set up with specialty pet stores, so you might have a hard time finding a breeder; so another option is to buy from those specialty stores. If you happen to live near Virginia Beach, there's a local option I'd highly recommend called "Pet Paradise". If you don't live near Virginia Beach, thumb through the photos in that link and you'll get a good idea of the kind of store you're looking for. Open 'pens' (as opposed to closed cages) help a ton with getting the bird socialized with humans, and shows that the folks who run the store actually know how to handle parrots. Additionally, places like this often provide free services (nail trims and such) following purchase of one of their birds.
Places you DO NOT want to get a bird from are generic pet stores like PetCo. They pretty much just pick up a haul of birds from the lowest bidder, throw them in a cage with like 20 other birds, and leave them there with no human interaction until a customer comes to purchase one. Socializing those birds, and establishing a bond/trust with it can be VERY difficult, and take months or more.
 
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if she’s not anxious without you then it could be perfectly fine to have her in a backpack carrier! i’ve heard good things about this one and i think taking her safely out for some fresh air is a fantastic idea. i can see your issue with harnesses, especially if you live in a particularly predator-ridden area. (of course, there are cheaper options than the one i linked)
If you work full time, two is better for them. Budgies are flock birbs and get bored and lonely if left on their own.
The best cage is the biggest one you can afford and have space for. For the price, this is a great cage.
Have a family of 3 in this larger, and two in the smaller. Really like them, no complaints! and HUGE, easy assembly.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002AQ228/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00176F5L0/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/Prevue-Products-Wrought-Hammertone-3151BLK/dp/B000FRV3M2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1520718302&sr=8-1&keywords=prevue+bird+cage
Something like this. Wrought iron is finished and it won't chip away like the painted on powdercoat will. I'm not really trusting of most petstores especially ones that aren't for exotic birds. Hell, every bird store ive been in sells mirrors and those are real bad for their mental health.
For cages I would get something like this it will last you a life time and your bird will love it.
As far as birds Indian ringnecks are a bit more intensive than budgies or tiels or conures. Their beaks are pretty strong and they are pretty smart so they would need better toys to play with if you want the toys to last more than a couple of days.
I would also look at Quakers if you take care of it and give it enough socialization time they will not be very vocal. Really noise level depends on the personality of the bird them self and the amount of time you give them.
Quakers pack a lot of bird for such a small package and can be very rewarding if you put the right care into them.
Noooo way. Flimsy and small. If you’re getting a bird you need to be willing to spend a little extra to give them the best life you can. This one is so worth the extra money.... https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000FRV3M2/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1539903152&sr=8-1&keywords=parrot+cage+prevue&dpPl=1&dpID=41rvIjMEO1L&ref=plSrch
I prefer the vision cages. They are great if you don’t want them creating a mess when eating their food. I got a medium sized cage for my budgie and she was excited to be in it. Heck I cant get her to come out anymore because she wants to stay in it all the time. She loves to talked to the plastic hooks and the door knobs on the cage as well. I got a medium sized cage, you can order a large, or small one if you prefer but I found the medium is pretty good for me. Its also a lot easier to clean in my opinion!
The vision cages have different sizing as well. I got the medium m01, its longer. They have a medium m02 which is taller. So I would look at each cage and look at the dimensions, reviews and videos if you decide to get a vision cage. Its made it easier for me since I don’t have to worry about her flinging bird seed everywhere.
I have one of the Hagen Vision cages - the small cage is too small but the medium is great for one or two birds:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B000K67UF2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_tdMsybZE1AV4Q
It's really good and the design helps catch mess made by your birds when they eat. Highly recommended!
I have this one for one of my lovebirds. http://www.amazon.com/Vision-Bird-Cage-Model-M02/dp/B0012DOXEI/ref=pd_sim_sbs_petsupplies_11?ie=UTF8&refRID=09T6HVTAE6NC3DFDGJ0K
Sounds like she'll be fine with time then :)
If you want suggestions for cages, Vision's usually a good set - I use this one for mine: https://www.amazon.com/Vision-Bird-Cage-Model-M02/dp/B0012DOXEI/ref=sr_1_sc_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1504334336&sr=8-2-spell&keywords=visionbird+cage - It's big enough, but only just. There's also the Large model that's really not much bigger, just wider: https://www.amazon.com/Vision-Bird-Cage-Model-L01/dp/B0012DOXFC/ref=sr_1_sc_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1504334336&sr=8-3-spell&keywords=visionbird+cage
Best part of those cages is the plastic bottom part that detaches, makes cleaning the bottom easier than a slide-out tray + the bird gets a better view while eating and most importantly, no seeds being flung everywhere since it's solid walls, with little doors on either end to change the food/water easy.
In the meantime since you only have two (I assume one is long and goes lengthwise for the food/water?), you can probably put that one in the middle just above the door, she'll wanna be as high as possible but not bumpin against the ceiling if at all possible...I know it's kinda tough in that cage though, it looks neat but when it comes to practical use I regretted buying it, lol
Edit: I forgot to mention one thing, your birb may or may not have issues getting to the bottom of the cage with those cages - the "depth" of the solid see-through walls is kinda deep, and getting Ladders/Perches that go down to the bottom is tough to figure out. I got lucky in that mine basically does "pullups" to get up and down - she'll grab the bottom bar of the cage part with her beak and lower her body and feet down to the grate on the bottom, and do the same to pull herself back up when she's done. Your mileage may vary.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0012DOXEI/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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At the time I purchased this, it was 64$
I saw [this] (https://www.amazon.com/Prevue-Products-Wrought-F040-31-Inch/dp/B00176F5L0/ref=sr_1_5?s=pet-supplies&ie=UTF8&qid=1474243326&sr=1-5&keywords=love+bird+cage). I'm not sure how nice this would be. Would it be worth it to get that over the Vision? It is only for one bird.
This is the one we have for Auggie and Zazu
This cage, or something similar is usually a lot of bang for your buck. It gets suggested a lot. Sometimes you can find it cheaper on other sites.
I think that this new cage is actually really dangerous for your new babies. That cage seems to be for larger birds. You don't want bar spacing any bigger than 1/2". You can't simply get a large cage, the cage has to be appropriate for small guys. Something like this (try searching for "flight cage") if you want a great large cage for them. The rust is extremely worrisome as well. I'm guessing you got the cage second hand, so I hope you didn't pay too much for it. I understand you had good intentions, getting them a cage they can fly and flex their wings in, but you have to consider appropriateness! Good luck!
It is! We got it from amazon: bird cage
Thanks for the info! She has a fleece toy made of strips that she sleeps in but the only place they could make a nest is on the bottom or in a food bowl, I think.
Its 2 of these put together
Prevue Pet Products Wrought Iron Flight Cage with Stand F040 Black Bird Cage, 31-Inch by 20-1/2-Inch by 53-Inch https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00176F5L0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_VCCaCbE4SZ4EY
If I had to do it again I would get 2 extra larges to put together instead of the f040 style. It would be even more room for them! But also fit better. My two put together have a crack in the bottom just big enough for a parrotlet to get through. Covering it is annoying.
If you can afford it, this cage is very popular. My tiel loves it and, after about a week of practice, has had no trouble climbing the vertical bars. The perches it comes with aren't great, but rope perches are pretty cheap and comfy for little bird feet!
Congrats on your new birb! Hope to see lots of cute pics of him as he settles in
He is in the living room next to the couch we always sit on. We have an apartment so that is where we spend almost all our awake time when home.
He lives in this cage
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00176F5L0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_80UxybE2WNZXY
I started throwing an old hand towel over him because it prevented him from taking off and injuring himself. Once in hand I uncover his head, let him stand in my hand while still in the towel, and hold my thumb and forefinger on either side of his head in a manner that prevents him from wriggling out, but also makes it so he isn't being clutched in a hand, but rather just the thumb and forefinger rest on his shoulders (only stiffen them when he struggles, no squeezing)
Before that we would try catching him by hand but that made him even more freaked out than the towel and he often would escape.
It’s the XL flight cage here: https://www.amazon.com/Great-Companions-Large-Bird-Cage/dp/B00176F5L0?ref_=ast_bbp_dp
I’m very happy with it!
These are the cages I've been looking at for a cockatiel, they might be of some use for you. :P
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00176F5L0/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_img?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1PYULTW2U23E0&coliid=I1Y8P06YPYHEGA
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00C332AOG/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_img?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1PYULTW2U23E0&coliid=I3M9R1939J71TR
I'm under the impression that longer is better than taller because it gives more room to roam and fly versus having to climb up and down the cage to access different areas. I'm also not an expert, I've had chickens, turkeys, ducks, and geese, but still researching house birds before I take one in. /r/parrots would be a good resource for you as well, lots of 'tiel posts and lots of people with their own birdies, good place to ask for input!
We had our cockatiel in the second one for the first couple of years after we got him, but always felt it was too small and cramped. We upgraded to this one about a year ago and he absolutely loves it.
EDIT: I mistyped - I meant to say we used to use the second one (the smaller one), not the first. We still use the small one as a travel cage, for which it works great (we recently moved, during which we transported our bird ~150 miles in it).
This is the best priced cage i've found. It's wrought iron so it won't wear out quickly. It's pretty darn big, I would say perfect for 4-5 cockatiels.
Hey! I was able to get a big cage online through Petco for about $60. I don't have a specific link for you but I'd definitely check there. Basically, I would get a cage big enough for 2-4 budgies because, if you're like me, you'll definitely end up getting more. Budgies can get really depressed if they don't have friends.
Here's my number one rule for buying a cage for any bird: the bigger the cage, the happier the bird! It's also important to get one that doesn't have a rounded top, because it can make budgies anxious. Cages that open at the top are cool too because it's easier for your budgie to leave/enter the cage. It's also nice if there's a big door on the front so it's easier for you to train your budgie while it's still in the cage. I'll give you some links I found on Amazon for different sizes/prices:
Super tall cage, $65
Good for 2-3 budgies, $65
Very popular cage, would fit several budgies, also has wheels, $100
Flight cage for 1 budgie, $50
Petco links:
Cage for 1 budgie only, $30
I suggest this one, good for 1-2 budgies and has open top!!
I don’t have this cage, but I’ve seen it get recommended around r/parrots sometimes. It’s a pretty good size for its price and has good reviews.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00176F5L0/ref=cm_cr_arp_mb_bdcrb_top?ie=UTF8
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Congrats on your new birbs!
If you are able to, you'll definitely want to get a bigger cage and better perches for their little feets. We got this one and it's a great deal for the size you get: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00176F5L0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Also when you can, get some non-dowel perches. As long as it's a safe wood, using a few tree branches with varying widths will help exercise their feet. You can use a guide like this to see which are safe or not: http://www.mdvaden.com/bird_page.shtml
Also give them some flat platforms as well so they can rest their feet. We put in 2 for our birbs and they love to sleep their now and lay down on the platforms and give their feet a break from gripping a perch all the time.
I have this cage and like it a lot: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001NPX5BC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I upgraded to the Midwest Deluxe Critter Nation Two Story https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B001NJ0DAY/ref=oh_aui_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I like the horizontal bars, its size, the flat floor, large doors, and that you can expand it. I can only recommend it if you are willing to work on it, as it can be hard to put together and dangerous otherwise.
If the pieces were perfect, it would not be hard to put together. But some of the connections were bent and needed to be straitened, had a bad weld that made a gap, so had to be creative and a second set of hands to get it into place. It is just a one time headache and your set might be better.
For sugar gliders, you will want to not add the middle floor section, not adding it exposes holes, and then there is holes for where you can add the adjustable shelves.
The dangerous part is the holes have sharp edges, so they need to be filed smooth. Also, the punched out bit is still in the holes on most of them. They can be removed with needle nose pliers. If this is not done, I would worry about a curious sugar glider loosing a finger or whole hand...
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The one I had before was the HQ Flight Cage https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B002UTZ040/ref=oh_aui_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
It is a little smaller, but still a descent size, it has bars on the bottom and slide out floor under it, so with a bit of newspaper (or what ever you prefer) it was easy to clean it, the smaller doors can be an advantage if you have have trouble keeping the gliders inside when you open it.
I had it for three years, the main reason I replaced it is I did not like the vertical bars, even though I never had an issue, I worried about it hurting their feet, as they always slid down on the bars a bit and with the bars on the bottom, they did not have much flat ground to stand on. I also wanting something a bit larger.
Other wise, it was a great cage. It was easy to put together and the only adjustment I had to make was to zip tie shut the little bird doors on the top of it.
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I looked into both cages, before getting them, to make sure they were not coated with anything toxic to sugar gliders, which is the main issue with cheap bird cages.
I'm very sorry for your loss.
I would recommend this page for cockatiels. I have two and they can both fit in there, but it's great for a single bird as well. Easy to clean with a sliding drawer like you said, and I have moved it out to the porch at least once every year to clean my oven, since the fumes are bad for them.
Also, the cage is super sturdy and it'll last you a long time.
There's a rescue/breeder place in Houston that had a TON of rescued adult tiels that needed a home last time I checked. It's pretty "famous" as far as Houston bird places go, so you probably don't live nesrby, unfortunately. Just thought I'd throw that out there anyway.
You could possibly repurpose your old cage into something nice. It might also be a travel cage, but it seems a little too big for that.
I don't really recommend it for cockatiels. It's a very narrow cage and just not very good in terms of them actually being able to spread their wings and do some flappin'. (For budgies and similarly-sized birds however - it's great!)
For a tiel I recommend something more like this if you want lots of space.
Also, for birds I'd say you can usually find them on craigslist (or your local equivalent) or at a rescue, especially since there are so many who don't have good homes already, and tiels are very easily rehabilitated with some TLC even if they've had bad owners. Be sure, however, that you quarantine any new bird!
Thanks everyone! Here is a link to his cage.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00C332AOG/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1
We got our lovely girl from a rescue. We originally went for an african grey but after several visits she just won us over. Definitely go with a rescue that allows you to meet and learn about their birds, it is such a huge factor. Baby personalities will change, but an adult bird knows who they are.
We got the absolute largest cage we could afford, which is taller than my 6'3" husband, though we really wanted to get this awesome massive corner cage.
Many cockatoos are absolute woodchippers, our girl included. Our little goffin's only likes easy to shred paper and cardboard though, so it depends on each bird. These toys get EXPENSIVE if you don't make them yourself. Our U2 is content to chomp untreated wood blocks we buy at the home improvement stores and chop into smaller pieces.
Food is important to. A high quality pellet, plus fresh fruit and veg, is a must. A steady diet of seeds will shorten your bird's lifespan massively.
An air filter is a must, a stinking good one. Cockatoos are dusty! We went with the austin brand, and we're not disappointed.
They are NEEDY. They scream, and they scream LOUD. Our U2 makes our ears ring sometimes, the goffin's is quieter but she screams more often so it's still rough when you need a quiet moment. They want your undivided attention. Some get bored easily, but can be taught to keep themselves busy if ample toys and distractions are provided. They are destructive. A bite from a cockatoo can get you stitches easily. You can't punish a cockatoo (our really any parrot) the way you do a child. They can be taught, but it takes excellent, darn near perfect, consistency and kindness to reduce things like screaming when they just do it to do it.
Also keep in mind... exotic veterinary care is so dang costly. We just spent 3k on saving our U2 when her oviduct twisted and trapped an egg she was trying to lay. She had to have a blood donor due to her particular situation (which the rescue she came from provided, bless them) and it took over a week before she could come home. The day we realized she was in trouble all of the most trustworthy avian vets in our nearby area were out of town or unavailable and we had to drive 1.5 hours one way to get to someone who ended up giving her excellent care. Plus, many don't enjoy taking meds so the follow up antibiotics were... fun.
All in all, we adore our birds. In general they can be fun, funny, sweet, comforting, and if you get a rescue you can make sure you bring a bird home that fits your personality. They are a TON of work and a huge investment in both money and time. Find yourself a rescue and start meeting birds, stay a while if you can. You will learn quickly if you're ready.
You will absolutely want a flight cage. I believe I got one off amazon that was like 2 feet long, 5 feet tall, and like 2.5-3 feet width? Let me see if I can find it.
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found it, I think
I got this cage from Amazon and costed me 100$ USD.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VWLEC00/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Bird Carrier
This is the carrier I bought! Overall, I really like it. I’ve had it a little over three months, and I can take it anywhere. I would say I probably wouldn’t putting anything bigger than a cockatiel in there for trips longer than quick trips to the vet.
What about This?
Here it is! https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B075R7NGGK?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title
I liked it so much that I bought one for my budgies too!
all my birds are female and I have plenty of space https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0002AQ228/?coliid=I1H67W775KNKHS&colid=2UN4AQSXHZQXD&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it this is the cage i have
So... about 4'x2' I'm guessing.
I assume it's the LENGTH that is the main issue. If you went only 1 more foot in depth, you could accommodate 6 finches. One more foot sticking out could likely be accommodated in a small space - even if it means rearranging something. (like, if you're fitting it on a table, sticking out 15.2 centimeters on either side won't make it structurally unsound) Failing that, you could try adding height to your cage. It's less ideal than length but still more useful than nothing.
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I have this cage, and although the measurements are about the same width/depth-wise, I really like it and so does Lucy.
We have this one
https://www.amazon.ca/Prevue-Pet-Products-Wrought-Hammertone/dp/B000FRV3M2/ref=mp_s_a_1_12?keywords=conure+cage&qid=1561946581&s=gateway&sprefix=conure+cag&sr=8-12
For toys I like these guys. They ship.
http://www.exoticwings.com/shoppe/
Make sure you get a variety of chewing/foraging and straight up dingle/loud toys
Prevue Pet Products Wrought Iron Select Bird Cage Black Hammertone 3151BLK https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000FRV3M2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_1TXZBb24GH2HV
We got this one for our black cap conure Ruby and she loves it.
Way too small.
More like these:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000FRV3M2/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1492390373&sr=1-5&refinements=p_4%3APrevue+Hendryx&dpPl=1&dpID=41rvIjMEO1L&ref=plSrch
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B01BRCC94Y/ref=mp_s_a_1_37?ie=UTF8&qid=1492390494&sr=8-37-spons&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=conure+bird+cage&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/Kings-Cages-Parrot-58H21W17D-parrot/dp/B00CJTS75K
That could be it. She avoids the pedi perch and her foraging toy. But she's explored or played with the others to some degree.
This is the cage. I got the smallest one - I think 18x18x57? Some people say their tiels love it, but I feel like the bars are too slippery. I'm so unsure. I just want her to be safe and happy
This is the cage I have for my canary, it’s really good at keeping his mess in his cage and not all over my floor lol
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Vision-Cage-Birds-Regular-Medium/dp/B000K67UF2/ref=asc_df_B000PGRVQU/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=256160966863&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=9836321009111271278&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1007008&hvtargid=pla-318775629279&psc=1&th=1
When it comes to letting my bird fly I let him out of his cage.
If you decide to keep him, make sure you buy a nice big cage (most of the cages at the pet store are too small - this is a good size one for a single budgie https://www.amazon.ca/Vision-Bird-Cage-Model-Medium/dp/B000K67UF2/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1550124503&sr=8-4&keywords=budgie+cage, a few different perches of different sizes (wood, rope, cement) and some toys to play with. Most budgies love chew toys, swings, and bells. He will also need seeds, pellets, a cuttlebone and a mineral block. Budgies also love millet and honey stick but both are high in fat so only give them in limited quantities.
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Also KEEP HIM HIGH UP AWAY FROM THE CAT. Far too many stories of budgies dying tragically by the family cat even when the cat didn't seem to notice the budgie before. The cat will see him as prey. Best solution is to keep him in a separate room with the door closed high up to where the cat can't jump to and never, ever let the two of them be in the same room together when he's out of his cage.
Yes, a very cute boy! I agree though, a larger cage and make sure to have a lot of branches of varying sizes. The linked cage (or the smaller version) comes with such branches!
One more question, whats your opinion on the large double height version of that brand cage.
https://www.amazon.ca/Vision-Bird-Cage-Model-Medium/dp/B0012DOXFW/ref=sr_1_1_m?s=pet-supplies&rps=1&ie=UTF8&qid=1538362996&sr=1-1&keywords=vision%2Bbird%2Bcage&refinements=p_85%3A5690392011&th=1
And then we found this one as well
https://www.amazon.ca/Flight-Bird-Cage-Detachable-Stand/dp/B07G4MN5VF/ref=sr_1_48?s=pet-supplies&ie=UTF8&qid=1538383027&sr=1-48&keywords=large+bird+cage
Like others have said; larger cage with smaller bar spacing, more toys. Find out what kind of toys your cockatiels like, they're all different and have preferences but most cockatiels will love shreddable toys.
This is the cage I have for my cockatiel that I would personally recommend:
https://www.amazon.ca/Vision-Bird-Cage-Model-Large/dp/B0012DOXFW
Don't have perches placed above food dishes to avoid droppings in food/water. Careful on giving them full millet sticks, doing this frequently can lead to obesity pretty quick. Get a variety of perches that have different sizes, shapes, and materials to avoid foot problems. Avoid plastic perches.
Assuming they're male and female, you'll need to make sure the female is especially well nourished and avoids calcium-binding food like spinach. Calcium is very important for female cockatiels. Always have a cuttlebone available for them in the cage.
After they settle in an start feeling comfortable, start to ween them on pellets. There's a lot of online resources that can give you in-depth tips on how to do this. Also feed them vegetables; whether it's through shredding up kale or other veggies into their seed, or hand feeding them broccoli, they need their vegetables. I personally make a large blend of shredded vegetables and seeds monthly that I freeze, portion, and serve. It's called "chop", and would recommend looking into it later. Never completely cut seeds out of your cockatiel's diet, once they're on a healthy pellet and veggie diet, they should still get fed seed a couple times a week or so.
Be sure to check out some of the great resources others have linked in here. There's a lot to know, like the list of safe foods. Otherwise, congratulations on your two feathered friends and feel free to ask any questions!
Edit: cage recommendation.
Updated. Posted the wrong cages! Is the this one good?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0012DOXFW/ref=s9_acsd_hps_bw_c_x_9_w
Also, could you please link me to some good toys?
I think that cage looks good! It looks really similar to another cage I've seen recommended on here several times for tiels: https://www.amazon.com/Prevue-Products-Wrought-F040-31-Inch/dp/B00176F5L0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1484420740&sr=8-1&keywords=flight+cage
Are the birds you're adopting already bonded to each other? If not, you may want to keep them separated for a little while when you bring them home so that they can become tame to you.
I don't have a tiel but my brother does. The cage he ended up getting was this:
https://www.amazon.com/Prevue-Products-Wrought-F040-31-Inch/dp/B00176F5L0/
It was a pain in the butt to set up, but so far it's been pretty great for his two tiels.
I got mine from Amazon, but it is the same price on Chewy.com. Available in white or black. I absolutely love how easy it is to pull and clean the tray, and the bars are easily wiped down. It also has several access points other than the two door openings which are delightfully wide, since it can be difficult to extract an unwilling birb. Plenty of room for my playground on the roof of the cage and it has a storage shelf.
I sound like a cage advertisement. It’s a nice cage and not as expensive as some.
Prevue Pet Products Wrought Iron Flight Cage with Stand F040 Black Bird Cage, 31-Inch by 20-1/2-Inch by 53-Inch https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00176F5L0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_i-1kDbXVNZ2YQ
A box isn't ideal, but is better than being preyed on and attacked outside, especially just for something temporary. Watch out for curious beak marks that may be expanding the air holes! Birds can fly far and get carried by wind, so this bird could have escaped from cities away.
Get some seed to feed it, and dark leafy greens. Lettuce is mostly water so it doesn't offer much nutrition, and apples are sugary so they may boost its energy which is fine here and there, but if all you're working with is a cardboard box, it may make them restless, more bitey, and frustrated with pent up energy (this applies to all fruits - they should be fed in moderation). You can offer most vegetables limitlessly, and if nobody comes forward to claim this as their lost pet, you'll want to transition them to a pelleted diet supplemented with some seed and lots of vegetables and grains. Here's a good food list.
Also, not all lovebirds are pairs and not all lovebirds are suitable to be in pairs with each other. Whether you get a same or opposite sex companion, I would still give them two separate cages, at least to start. They may be very small and cute, but they are very capable of biting off toes, puncturing beaks, and killing each other if they don't want to share space with that particular bird. Lovebirds are very territorial and compared to other small parrots, they've got a ton of attitude. As long as you have the time to give a bird one on one socialization throughout the day, they can do fine without a cagemate.
Find an avian vet in your area as well. You don't know how long this little one has been outdoors or whether or not they're healthy. It would be very sad to get a huge setup ready for this bird only to have it pass away from a disease it caught, or weakness from its journey. Birds may be people-friendly having been socialized as pets, but they can also be more handleable when they're ill or injured.
It might seem like overkill relative to the size of the bird, but if all comes back well with the bird's health, if you can afford the space, a cage like this is pretty affordable (if you can find a local equivalent) and spacious enough to exert energy flying around on its own. A variety of natural wood perches and toys with bells and soft woods like balsa are lovebird favourites. I do a full swap of everything in the cage and its position every week when I do full cage cleanings (washing the cage bars and base - I do newspaper, water, and food changes daily though) to keep things interesting. They're very effective shredders, so keep important documents hidden.
how about this?
Here's the cage I've got: http://www.amazon.com/Prevue-Products-Wrought-F040-31-Inch/dp/B00176F5L0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1396910974&sr=8-1&keywords=flight+cage
There's two nest boxes in there, multiple perches, three water dishes on different levels (including a dish on the floor), and two food dishes on different levels.
There's four zebras now, all male. I figured since our other two males got along great and I didn't have to worry about eggs, that it wasn't such a bad idea. =/
I can't imagine their markings would have anything to do with it, but maybe? The pied zebra is fine, but the one being picked on is a black cheeked zebra. The other two are just normal noisy guys. =)
No heat lamps but if there's a good reason to get one, I will. We keep the house in the low 70's and they're in front of a well insulated sliding door that gets a good amount of evening sun.
Thank you so much for taking the time to give me such a detailed reply. I really appreciated it.
As far as daily activities, I should have mentionned that I train at home. The only time I am out is with the dog. If possible, I would like to get the bird accustomed to a flight suit so that she can accompany us outside when it's warmer.
I have not considered the fact that she is around other birds and that it could be a problem. I figured it's pretty much the same as buying a bird from a breeder or pet store since they are all in different cages. I will ask about the male GCC as I wouldn't want to separate them if they are a couple. There is also the possibility of getting one of the budgies or the 'tiel, but I fear since they are smaller, it could be an issue. There is the possibility of them hating each other forever. I read that conures have a tendency to be agressive towards their own species and more-so with smaller birds.
As far as the cage goes, the flight cage seems a little flimsy compared to the Kings or am I wrong? The bars seem thinner in the picture. How well does it hold if you hang toys/perches? Do the bars bend under the weight?
I got this one on sale for my three tiels and its more than enough room. They love it!
https://www.amazon.com/Prevue-Products-Wrought-F040-31-Inch/dp/B00176F5L0/ref=sr_1_10?s=pet-supplies&ie=UTF8&qid=1483562144&sr=1-10&keywords=bird+cage
Amazon has some decent options
Prevue on amazon has some gooders.
I used this cage when I had my two linnies caged together but they started getting really moody about me third wheeling in on their parade so now they're each in one of these and its worked well-ish. Only downside to the two smaller cages is the doors slide upwards rather than swinging out so you'll need to pin them up with something if you want the door to stay open. Linnies are about the same size as lovies, I'm sure two could easily live in either
We have this one for our quaker and it's absolutely perfect! We strung some plastic chain across at various levels and have a while bunch of toys and perches in the upper half, and she loves hanging out in and around it.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bird-Cage-Large-Play-Top-Bird-Parrot-Finch-Cage-Macaw-Cockatoo-Pet-Supplies-53/183090691660?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
https://www.amazon.com/Prevue-Products-Wrought-F040-31-Inch/dp/B00176F5L0/ref=sr_1_cc_2?s=aps&psr=EY17&ie=UTF8&qid=1543256266&sr=1-2-catcorr&keywords=bird+cage
$24 difference between the two. the ebay one has about a 6"L x 4"W x 16"H difference less than the Prevue
which would you choose? im just sitting here waiting to purchase one of the two lol
I got a cage for my parakeets off Amazon. They love it in there. It's pretty big so they can fly around.
I got this one from another website. I bought separate bowls though.
As someone else has posted, minimum cage size for a single budgie that will be allowed out of the cage for most of the day is 18"x18"x18". If you have more than one bird, or they will be confined to the cage for most of the day, you need to go bigger. And please keep in mind that when people tell you the minimum size for a cage that it is just that, a minimum.
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If this were school, the minimum would be a grade of "D", in that you are technically passing, but nobody is impressed.
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My personal opinion on the matter is that unless I am taking in an animal under emergency circumstances in which I have no time to prepare financially, then I should save up and provide living conditions that would be at least be a "B" or higher. In this case, it would be a flight cage.
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I have frequently pointed out that a great flight cage like this (https://www.amazon.com/Prevue-Products-Wrought-F040-31-Inch/dp/B00176F5L0) requires only that you forego your daily Starbucks coffee for 3-4 weeks. That's it. Then you have nice big cage and your bird will live a much better life for it.
I believe we have the same cage as the OP. We got it from Amazon. Prevue Pet Products Wrought... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00176F5L0?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf
There is a nice cover available for it as well.
Thank you so much! We are looking for a new set up for our bird. She currently has this: https://www.amazon.com/Prevue-Products-Wrought-F040-31-Inch/dp/B00176F5L0/ref=sr_1_8?s=pet-supplies&ie=UTF8&qid=1486051982&sr=1-8&keywords=bird+cage but it is getting rickety - the screws keep needing tightening. We want to replace it, but she barely uses the bottom half of the cage, aside from going down to the floor to pick at things she has dropped sometimes. We don't want to put her in something a lot smaller, and I understand the "buy the most cage you can get" policy - but cleaning something that you don't have to bend to the floor (yours vs ours) would be nice.
It's a huge flight cage. No way I can hang it.
This is a very popular cage for multiple budgies. It has half inch bar spacing (don't go any bigger than that.) The model is F040, it's available in several places online.
This cage is generally pretty popular due to being a decent price for the size:
https://www.amazon.com/Great-Companions-Large-Bird-Cage/dp/B00176F5L0?th=1
I wouldn't do more than two in a cage that size. Zebra finches tend to be rather pushy, so even a moderate-sized flight cage could be too small for all of them. I might be too late, but I don't recommend vision cages. They are a horrible pain to clean, since you have to take the whole bottom off. A cage like this is much better, and costs about the same.
https://thepetsupplyguy.com/budgie-cage-size-calculator/
Heres a link that can help you
Also a link to a cage for 6 budgies really cheap and good quality, the more space the better.
https://www.amazon.com/Great-Companions-Large-Bird-Cage/dp/B00176F5L0/ref=pd_bap_m_rp_2/140-3871455-9849746?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00176F5L0&pd_rd_r=1c4661d9-2d74-4645-a46a-0e5949d9c8b8&pd_rd_w=4CRld&pd_rd_wg=rqKQQ&pf_rd_p=fad01225-121a-4a4a-bbb6-5a41829a616e&pf_rd_r=E6PFEH67ENF5G88A9EHH&psc=1&refRID=E6PFEH67ENF5G88A9EHH
What about this?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00176F5L0/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B00176F5L0&linkCode=as2&tag=budgieworld03-20&linkId=ea66092cd3f3c9ed4dbaaab9e09e517e
You want to get as large of cage as you cam just make sure it has 1/2" (12mm) bar spacing.
This is close to what I have for my Kakariki.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00176F5L0/ref=s9_acsd_top_hd_bw_b3FLkCJ_c_x_w?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-4&pf_rd_r=H1GR9VZZC9YKDE56DW5J&pf_rd_r=H1GR9VZZC9YKDE56DW5J&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=256e1a0e-b4ca-548b-846b-695a9b4a7f30&pf_rd_p=256e1a0e-b4ca-548b-846b-695a9b4a7f30&pf_rd_i=2975226011
Looks like the one I bought from Amazon.ca for my lovies. It comes in a couple colours (black and a hammered finish) and 2 sizes. Great cage, but does require a second set of hands to build the thing when it arrives in its flat-pack box :P
I know you said you may not be able to accommodate this, but I got this for my baby.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00176F5L0/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I actually started out with the same cage you got, just by someone else on amazon and it was only $100 dollars, not as expensive as that one. This brand is still Prevue, and I wish I would of bought this cage first. I've seen plenty of people use the cage you have linked for their tiels and it seems to work fine, but my girl seemed to hate the cage and only stayed on her sleeping perch in it even after having three weeks to get used to it. She begged to be let out.
Also, the play top she struggled to get on to. But, she is only 3 months old and is still learning to climb. I always had to put her up there myself, and she could never climb down by herself. My local pet store has tiels in those exact cages and they don't seem to have those issues, so its only a baby bird thing.
I got this one and she now runs back and forth through the whole length, goes in the cage by herself and will stay in there without begging for much longer. She spends about 6-7 hours out of her cage all day but will still go inside it on her own to chill. She just seems to like it much more.
But, as I said, many people have their birbs in that cage and don't seem to have issues. Mine was just picky lmao, I wanted to share it anyway
I bought one of these bird cages a few days ago. When I went to put it together I tried following the manual. But ended up getting pissed and threw a piece. After I cooled off I went back to it I completely ignored the manual and had it together and complete almost immediately (don't have an actual time frame sorry).
Okay yea that cage would be more suitable for a big macaw, not a little tiel.
Honestly it might be better to put them back in the smaller cage until you find a bigger cage with proper bar spacing, since a small cage is cramped but the bar spacing can kill your bird.
My tiel is currently in a cage that's definitely too small due to me traveling between school and home a lot, but I'm moving out in a month and getting her this, which you might want to look into because its very big, well reviewed, has proper bar spacing, and inexpensive for the size
Bird cage. Specifically this one.
Hm, well, it depends on what "Spending time" consists of. If we are talking playing with, singing to, speaking to, and scritch scratching, I would say maybe 3 hours a day I spend with them. However, when I am not playing with them, at work, or sleeping, they are always within 6 or 7 feet of me. I have music playing for them all day, every day, unless it is their bed time. That way they have something to sing along with/to. Lone budgies, though, are an entirely different story. The other budgie, which the budgie gets to spend all day, every day with becomes you. They constantly need attention and interaction. Not speaking from personal experience, but rather the information I have seen online. I would suggest getting two if you aren't able to basically be there for them for 7-8 hours a day. Also, that cage looks good to me, a lot like mine actually! You could definitely go smaller if you wanted to, but that one is great if you are willing to pay that price. The birds will definitely love it.
EDIT: I should point out that when you have more than one budgie, they become largely self-sufficient socially. Mine get pretty annoyed with them playing with them too long, and for a long time before they trusted me, they wouldn't interact with me at all. So don't force your budgie to play if they dont wanna, just come back another time.
These are both fairly big, but from what you described I felt like these fit. Here's a much less expensive one I have for my two budgies https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001NPX5BC/ref=asc_df_B001NPX5BC4997843/?tag=hyprod-20&creative=394997&creativeASIN=B001NPX5BC&linkCode=df0&hvadid=167134466316&hvpos=1o3&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15514101476818063859&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9023746&hvtargid=pla-273564412720
They can fly around a little in here but I couple it with out of cage time for a good chunk of the day.
So the only way I think you could pull this off is buying a bigger cage, here is a cage that looks about right and should fit to budgies. ( I don’t own it myself).
You could move your new budgie into the old cage and keep it away while you tame it and see for illnesses. I also recommend waiting a bit and asking for it’s gender I don’t have experience with female budgies but this should help.
Also, most budgies cages are fine for 2 if you have any measurements or pics I’d love to see them and can help you evaluate if you can fit another, you will probably still need to get a smaller travel cage while you tame her though.
If you do get a flight cage and move the new one into the older cage both budgies will be interested in their new surroundings and what your doing right now should be fine!
This is it. Couple downsides I’ve noticed are that the bars are mostly vertical so the lil birdies have a harder time climbing around, and there’s no opening out of the top of the cage. The cage door can be made to stay open which is nice, and cleaning it is super easy with the pullout tray.
you do have a very good point i have not thought of, i could leave the pet at home because there will be my two parents, two younger brothers, and my older sister to take care of the animals. also when i do go to college i plan to work also. thanks for responding. you are now making me think more of which i should buy then before
EDIT: also i just called a place near me with beardies and i might be leaning towards a beardie because they are cheaper. also after that i might just get something like a cape parrot or budgie. i have seen some channels on youtube that do use cages like these : https://www.amazon.com/Best-Choice-Products-Cockatoo-Birdcages/dp/B002SMC25E/ref=sr_1_13?s=pet-supplies&ie=UTF8&qid=1494018256&sr=1-13&keywords=bird+cage for smaller birds and might just get one of those after i get a beardie.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B002SMC25E/ref=mp_s_a_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1542498550&sr=8-15&keywords=playtop%2Bbird%2Bcage&dpPl=1&dpID=512Xw1m7F7L&ref=plSrch&th=1&psc=1
Is this cage too small/bad choice?
If you're willing to spend around $160 on a cage, I highly recommend the HQ Flight Cage.
Damn, I'm so new to this shopping market, any recommendations? There was one recommended by someone else here in my post and it looks nice!
It was similar to this:
Prevue Hendryx Travel Bird Cage 1305 White, 20-Inch by 12-1/2-Inch by 15-1/2-Inch https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003VVP0KU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_BB.HDbT37Z5B9
He didnt like it much, so how he has a soft-side travel cage.
My mother has this travel cage for her grey. I personally think that it's way, way heavier than it needs to be, especially considering how small it is. I've had this travel cage for my grey for years and have been happy with it. It is a little on the heavy side (but still not as heavy as the one above) and offers a good amount of space, especially for overnight trips. It's also not as durable as the one above, but still think it's more bang for its buck!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003VVP0KU?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00
link to cage
I have this cage for my cockatiel and I love it.
Thanks for the response!
The budgies I bought were 1 month ago and two weeks ago.
Do you have any suggestions for cages? I have this one: https://www.amazon.com/Prevue-Hendryx-Triple-Cockatiel-White/dp/B005S6V4QK?ref_=ast_bbp_dp
Do I need a bigger one?
This is a great one for two budgies/parakeets and is affordable IMHO.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005S6V4QK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_JcMNDbM24ADCA
See, that's ridiculous. I can't believe how difficult this is. I did find some with doors, like this. I'm just hesitant to order that because the photos are terrible and what I can see looks flimsy. The reviews of a similar model on one site mentioned sharp edges to the wires and poor powder coatings.
I was really hoping to get a nice wrought iron cage. But I can't find one that has feeder doors, appropriate bar spacing, and a flat top (because that's where my birds spend a good chunk of their day). I was hoping for a white cage, too, because it's what they have now and I think it'll help them adjust to the switch. But seeing how cheap these are, I'm worried about lead or zinc in the paint. I just have no faith in the quality of these products.
I just bought this cage about a week ago and I absolutely love it. It doesn't have quite as much vertical height as the Prevue cage, but it has a few things that really sold me.
1.) It comes with some platforms and ladders. My little girl Archie came from Petco with her wings clipped and she won't grow the feathers back in until her first molt in another month, so having the platforms and ladders helps her get around the cage.
2.) The base of the cage is high enough off the ground that my cat can't get to it. I highly recommend this if you have dogs or cats (maybe small children??)
3.) The door is really big and really easy to open. Archie is still pretty wary of hands and having the big open space for my hand to come through has definitely eased some of her anxiety. She feels less trapped. And it doesn't make any noise or shake the cage when you open it.
Anyway I really love this cage and just wanted the opportunity to rave about it. My bird has been so much happier since I got it. Good luck!
As others have said, rats can escape 7/8" wire spacing.
I recently bought this cage and I'm pretty happy with it: http://www.amazon.com/Parakeet-Cockatiel-Lovebird-Removable-Black/dp/B00C332AOG
The spacing is 1/2 inch, so even my small female rat can't squeeze through.
I like that the base is smaller than the critter nation, so it takes up less space in my room. It comes with 2 ladders and 2 platforms. They are made of wire, so they need to be wrapped with something (like fleece).
Here you go! https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00C332AOG its actually a bit cheaper than I remembered.
Yes, this one
Oops, sorry! I guess they need to update that page. :( This is the cage I have though, and my birds like it a lot. It did arrive with one bent bar (part of the stand, not the cage itself) but it hasn't been too much of an issue: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C332AOG/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I would not recommend housing two different species together. It's one thing to get along outside their 'nest' area, but birds are territorial of their space and one of your birds may end up hurt. Budgies tend to be little bullies. I know my conure and my cockatiels get along beautifully outside the cage but if one of my cockatiels so much as perches on my conure's cage she goes batshit crazy on them. The only one in the house allowed to touch her 'house' besides her is me.
But, fortunately for you. I have the perfect solution for you. This cage. It is a divided cage. You can have 'one cage' but your birds are separated. If they do end up getting along well like this, the divider is removable and your birds can be housed together, and still, you would have only bought one cage.
https://www.amazon.com/Prevue-Pet-Products-X-Large-Hammertone/dp/B00KYQUJME/ref=mp_s_a_1_17?keywords=macaw+cage&qid=1558040164&s=gateway&sprefix=macaw+cage&sr=8-17
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00SK7HOYA/ref=ppx_yo_mob_b_track_package_o0_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I don't see why one of these
Or one of these
Wouldn't have seemed like a better option for the guy.
I use to have custom 6 foot tall cage which was much cheaper and made of wrought iron. Right now I have a back yard with a 7 foot tall premade dog pen made of chain link fencing.
I'd never put a woman in an enclosure she couldn't stand up in. It's weird to me how so many other doms don't see the issue with putting their subs in cages smaller than what actual kidnappers use. Maybe it can be fun as an extreme restraint, but don't keep them in there longer than a couple hours.
I've also been looking at a Parrot cage...
SUPER DEAL PRO 61''/ 68'' 2in1 Large Bird Cage with Rolling Stand Parrot Chinchilla Finch Cage Macaw Conure Cockatiel Cockatoo Pet House Wrought Iron Birdcage, Black (61'') https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0734SYJQG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_vzWvDb6K4D7K4
It's a lot of vertical space but I planned on a lot of hammocks/ledges/climbing to begin with
https://www.amazon.com/SUPER-DEAL-Large-Rolling-Stand/dp/B0734SYJQG?ref_=fsclp_pl_dp_12
... Don't get another parrot. I'm gonna say this in the nicest way possible, but there are so many things wrong with what you want.
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"I want the parrot to be around the same size as an Indian ring neck that's 100-300 dollars and can live in a medium sized cage that isn't high maintenance and quiet"
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A parrot about the size of a ring neck likely isn't going to be less then $500, especially if you're getting one that's hand tamed.
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Budgies? Aren't that loud. Anything bigger? Screeches. They throw fits like children. They're also not going to be low maintenance because larger birds tend to live for about 40-60 years (Conures and ringneck sized birds) and they're super messy.
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A medium sized cage isn't big enough especially if they're aggressive and can't be held. They need at least a large cage like this one; an ideal cage for a larger bird