Best bottled pen ink according to redditors
We found 364 Reddit comments discussing the best bottled pen ink. We ranked the 149 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the top 20.
We found 364 Reddit comments discussing the best bottled pen ink. We ranked the 149 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the top 20.
Just FYI you can get it for less than $20 on Amazon!
Cheapest ink per ml.
Ink 350ml INK350BB (japan import) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001P35A74/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_PaVPBb6XHDT8G
350ml Pilot Blue Black.
https://smile.amazon.com/Ink-350ml-INK350BB-japan-import/dp/B001P35A74
Well the obvious recommendation for this is 350mL of Pilot blue/black. Should last a lifetime! Other than that, it would be worth checking out the various blue/blacks offered by Diamine, Pilot/Iroshizuku, Lamy, Monteverde, Pelikan, and Robert Oster.
The cheapest ? Hold my ink bottle ! https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pelikan-301168-4001-1000-Black/dp/B000WKZBCK
Oh man, buying someone who is into fountain pens a fountain pen without knowing anything about what the person likes is a Herculean task.
You may be better off buying some fountain pen ink and notebooks. Maybe look for some special edition inks like Montblanc The Beatles Psychadelic Purple and a couple nicer notebooks.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077VRM5NZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_2F4iDb8B3S0V2
Or a nice case - I have never had too many cases.
If you’re bent on getting him a pen, search eBay for a restored Sheaffer snorkel. You can probably get something for about $100 with a gold nib and, if the boss doesn’t have any they will think it is cool - and if they do have one, they’re probably already addicted.
I got a beautiful black Sheaffer Saratoga for $80 with a matching pencil. Not a white dot, but in beautiful condition.
I most certainly do, especially if you have any friends who like fps and ink: Pilot Blue/Black in the 'coke bottle'. You can get this for around $22.00 for 350ml (you read that right) and that is for a remarkably good ink that is even fairly waterproof. If you split the bottle with friends, you can end up with the absolute best ink value on the planet. I got into this ink because pen restoration people I know use it, and they use a lot of ink and it can't be a problem ink. Give it a look.
I also bought this.
Waterman 50ml Ink Bottle for Fountain Pens, Intense Black Ink (S0110710) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000J3VKH0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_HCjlDbHVD9VER
Not sure if this is prime day but only $3 for a bottle of intense black or mysterious blue
Pilot makes an ink under the Iroshizuku brand that has a fantastic magenta called Yama-Budo. It and other Iroshizuku inks are available at Amazon for very good prices. If I were to start over I would only buy Iroshizuku inks, they are that good and very well respected by the fountain pen community.
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https://smile.amazon.com/Pilot-Iroshizuku-Fountain-Yama-Budo-69217/dp/B003MVMBHE/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=yama-budo&qid=1574648169&sr=8-1
Pelikan has us covered.
Pilot Blue black 350 ml for less than 21 USD. Not affiliated
Ink 350ml INK350BB (japan import) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001P35A74/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_gJs5AbZ9Y7AV5
Pilot Iroshizuku come up <$20 on Amazon with some regularity.
Right now:
Shin-kai $19.99
Take-sumi $20.84
Tsuyu-kusa $19.48
This Amazon seller has 3 left as of my posting (after me buying one of course).
http://www.amazon.com/J-Herbin-Anniversay-Bottled-Fountain/dp/B00NVFMK6I/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1413033336&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=herbin+stormy+grey
I think the largest bottles of ink I've seen are the 1L Pelikan Brilliant Black/Royal Blue bottles. It comes out about 6.5 cents a mL, which is pretty darn cheap in my book, while still getting high quality ink.
Pilot Blue Black comes in bottles.
https://www.amazon.com/Pilot-Iroshizuku-Fountain-Pen-Ink/dp/B0018HJVS6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1482874301&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=kon+peki+ink
Pilot Blue-Black is cheap as dirt (350 mL for $25), waterproof, professional, and really well behaved. It also shades surprisingly well on Rhodia and Tomoe River paper (maybe a 6.5/10 on shading which is a bit unusual for such a standard color).
(I've recently rediscovered this ink after spilling some water on a page I'd written and seeing just a hint of desaturation instead of the complete washing away of everything. Instant convert/made me love the ink again).
If you want a giant bottle of good, cheap ink for your students, the "coke bottle" of Pilot Blue-Black is a good choice.
Look, you don't need to go down the rabbit hole and as much of a pilot fanboy as I am (Fal-con, Fal-con UUUUUUUBER ALLLLLLLES!!!), the Vanishing Point is just odd and expensive for something that's a gadget sort of pen. If you want to up your writing experience, get some awesome inks. You literally can't do any better than Pilot's Iroshizuku line of inks. They make any pen a-motherfucking-mazing. Live that Take-sumi life. Its quality makes Noodler's Black bend over a barrel and request many foul and degrading things be done to it. And one bottle will last you a looooooong time. Get a good blue like Private Reserve DC Electric Blue or Visconti Blue (Lamy's Blue is quite nice as well).
After you get a good ink, get some Rhodia A4 pads. Lovely things, those Rhodias. But also Mead has some tablets which are high quality but I can't remember the name of at the moment because I'm about half a big bottle of wine into the night.
Stay with less expensive pens and realize you don't need to break the bank on this hobby. Look up some Jinhaos, PenBBS, etc. You can have great writing experiences without keeping up with the Joneses. I don't regret my purchases, per se, but I know they weren't necessary. This sub is great and fun to dork around in, I do enjoy it, but it's bad for the wallet.
Peace, love, and Humptiness forever. Time to go put the laundry from the washer into the dryer.
Oh yeah, always empty your pockets before you go to bed. Don't want them puppies going through the wash, ya herrrrrrrrd me?
:)
[Edit: I forgot to mention getting a fun and ridiculous pen because they're cheap and people will sometimes think they're super expensive. Like the Jinhao 950 here. I own one with a different design. It's heavy as heck and nearly everyone thinks it's either cool or funny. Lastly, welcome to the subreddit, you should have a good time.]
Back in stock on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NVFMK6I/
I must say, this turking thing is turning out to be fairly productive. I've managed to make enought to buy a new fountain pen and will soon have enough to get that bottle of Pilot Iroshizuku Kon-Peki Ink that I've been wanting and love. Summoning /u/TheBlotterOfInks24 to share the news!
It's slightly over $20, but it is 350 ml - which is probably a lifetime supply. A coke bottle full of ink
You're buying waterman ink and a $15 pen in this equation which is absurd. Cheap pens need to compared to cheap pens.
Let's say you buy a $2 Jinhao from eBay, free shipping, in an EF nib, including a converter, and then buy this $22 350 mL blue ink from Amazon.
It's 7 times the ink for twice the price, which is 3.5 times the value on ink. Plus, in an EF, you're writing a line more comparable to the .05 line of normal cheap pens, while putting far less ink down on the paper, which could mean that you use half or even less of the ink than you described. That 350 mL bottle would last forever. And the total cost for basically a lifetime of writing is $24.
The lie we tell ourselves is that we can save money by buying the pens and inks we WANT to use. We don't, it's a fantastic waste. But at its core there is truth to the economic upside of a refillable pen.
Ok. I'm going to give you a number of options here. Mostly they're white (because white goes with everything dahlink) but one is pink. They're all inexpensive. I'm giving you Amazon links and prices here, but you could use Goulet or maybe even get a better price on ebay. Here you go:
The Cross Beverly, about $36. Some people don't like Cross fountain pens, I love mine. This will be an attractive and reliable pen that she can be proud to use anywhere. It should come with Cross ink cartridges, which are very nice.
The Parker Vector, about $20. It's a bit plain looking, but they're superb pens, very reliable and write very well. It should have Parker ink cartridges.
The Jinhao 159, about $10. Very inexpensive, but Jinhao makes a surprisingly nice pen. It probably has a converter or can use standard cartridges. (It doesn't come with ink.)
The Jinhao 950 in white porcelain with blue chinese decoration, for less than $5.50. This is a very attractive pen (much nicer than the price implies) and the porcelain feels luxurious. (I have one with different decorations.) Also, the nib can be interchanged with the Goulet pen nibs. (Again, doesn't come with ink, probably has a converter in it.)
The Parker Urban, in pink, about $40. (It's not available in white, but that's a rather smashing pink, don't you agree?) This is a very stylish pen. She will be proud to pull it out and use it anywhere. I have one in black. Again, Parker makes fabulous pens. It probably comes with ink.
Or if you want to go very cheap on the pen and maybe get some nice ink with your budget, there's the Jinhao 599 under $5, although I will tell you you should be able to get this for under $2 on ebay.
Ink for her new pen
As I said above, the Parker pens come with ink, and they use a proprietary size cartridge. You can get a Parker converter or you can get craft syringes to refill a cartridge from bottled ink after she uses it up.
If you're getting her a beautiful pen, why not get her some lovely ink to go with it?
Wouldn't some lovely deep purple Iroshizuku ink (about $20) make a lovely impression with the white pens? I just got my first bottle of Iroshizuku this week and let me tell you, the bottle is gorgeous. Or maybe if she wants something less girly, a lovely deep turquoise for under $26?
Or if you want something a little less girly for ink, maybe you might want to look at the infamous (but glorious) Noodler's Baystate Blue for less than $13?
Or something slightly more exotic, with their Apache Sunset ink which shades from yellow to vermillion with writing?
If you want to get her some lovely ink in cartridges, because it's an easy way for her to start, you want to look at Goulet pens' web site for that, they have a lovely selection. I'll leave that shopping to you. Remember standard cartridges won't work in the Parker pens.
[edit:] If it were me, I'd get the Parker Urban, the Parker converter, the Iroshizuku purple, and the Noodler's Apache Sunset. That pen just screams style, even if it's stereotypically pink. (And they do make it in other colors, if you want to search Amazon.) She'll think of you every time she touches it.
Fountain pens deplete liquid ink much quicker than a ballpoint or gel pen or whatever. Just one of the quirks. And you're probably using it more than you thought! 1-ish mL of ink in a few days of moderate writing is not unheard of considering a single day of heavy duty note taking can do it.
The cost of ink can be negligible if you buy a bulk bottle of Pilot ink or similar. A 50mL bottle of ink will probably last 6-12 months.
edit: maybe don't invest in 350cc of ink if don't know if you'll like it or not. J.Herbin and some other inks are pretty expensive but brands like Pilot, Waterman and Pelikan sell regular ink that's a bit cheaper.
How much do you need? Because [[Pilot Blue-Black]] comes in large quantities
The Pelikan ink is sometimes on Amazon for 5¢/ml.
I bought it at that price. Still looks like it's full XD
Several inks by J Herbin do this.
To be honest, I would suggest a cheap fountain pen. They dont drip, they are a joy to write with, and the bottle refills are cheap as fuck.
Pilot Metropolitan is $14
A 3oz bottle of Noodlers is $12, and will last for around 10,000 pages of writing. (I really like 54th Massachusetts, but get bulletproof black if you are looking for that shade)
Sailor Kiwa Guro and there is also Sailor Sei Boku which is the blue black version.
About $25/bottle.
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https://www.amazon.com/Herbin-1670-Anniversary-Inks-Green-blue/dp/B0124DT9L6
Pelikan 4001
this refillable fountain ball pen is amazing
Use a universal refill cartridge like this one and fountain pen ink from a bottle (NOT india ink, it clogs in the pens, when not top quality) and you're good to go for quite a long time.
If you're in the US, Amazon.com sells them 20-22$ a bottle! If you buy 2 or more they'll even ship it to you for free.
http://www.amazon.com/Iroshizuku-Fountain-Tsuki-Yo-Moonlight-69205/dp/B003MVIYZM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1377962992&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=pilot+iroshizuku
Waterman Intense Black seems to be the best fit for your requirements. It's a nice black ink, and dries quickly.
Parker Quink is an option like you mentioned But I've used Quink in a fine nib and it wasn't grey but it was a light black. In a medium or bigger nib it should be a medium black.
I hope this helps.
just a sec, I'll search my amazon history for the one I purchased. I really like it...
Pen:
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M1FUXUN/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
The pen can take a cartridge, but I wanted a more authentic feel. It comes with a plunger which can be filled from an ink well.
Ink:
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B000J3VKH0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;th=1
Love this pen. I've used two bottles of ink so far.
If you ever get tired of the black and want blue again I highly recommend this ink by Pilot
Pilot Iroshizuku Bottled Fountain Pen Ink, Kon-Peki, Deep Blue, Turquoise Blue (69212) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003MVKFRW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_lU5pDb5693QGP
This is my favorite ink on Amazon.
Pilot's line of basic colors (Black, Blue-Black, and Blue) are among some of the best standard colors ever.
I'm a fan of Pilot Blue-BLack: https://www.amazon.com/Ink-350ml-INK350BB-japan-import/dp/B001P35A74
It's $23, but per mL of liquid, it's great (about 6 cents per mL).
It behaves well on cheap paper, is reasonably water resistant, shades, and flows well.
OK, that is the basic, clean package. There are a lot of pens that will meet your needs, as others have said, the Pilot Metropolitan is a really nice pen, and will work very well, it is a solid win, and is recommended a lot because it is a very nice starting pen. Good looks and writes well.
Alternatives that would be good are the Nemosine Singularity medium or fine nib (I would avoid Extra Fine for a beginner). If you like the shape, the Lamy Safari is a pen a lot of people like, I don't think they are the best, but they are well regarded and reviewed.
There are others, Parker IM, Cross, etc. I also really like a lot of the chinese pens, but really think you might want to get down the road before jumping in on those in general. The only exception might be the Jinhao x750, but it is a larger/heavier pen.
Get a converter with whatever pen you buy (the Pilot and Nemosine come with converters, the Nemosine has a nice screw piston converter).
Now, get some ink. You are pretty good on budget, so if you want to go all out, get some Pilot Iroshizuku Take-Sumi. This is an expensive ink, but one of the nicest inks you can get. It is a luxury to use, and the bottle is exquisite. If you get this ink, you have hit your budget.
A little less expensive ink, but really good, get some Noodler's Black, EEL Black, or X Feather (if planning to write on really bad paper).
Hope that helps, you will get a nicer kit than the package above. If you want to add a journal/sketchbook Pentalic works well with fountain pens for cheaper than some of the other brands.
I mentioned this last time, too, but just in case folks didn't see:
Kiwa-Guro is identical in every way to Platinum Carbon Black. They're both super dark, pigmented, no shading at all, completely waterproof blacks--honestly, it's impossible to tell them apart on the page, and there were no significant differences in terms of flow, dry-time, or feathering.
Platinum is a bit cheaper per ml (60ml instead of the Sailor's 50ml): Amazon has the Platinum for $22 while Kiwa-Guro is $19. It's a difference of only $0.02/ml, but if that's your thing, it's good to know. Personally, I prefer filling in the Platinum bottle (Sailor's insert is just a hair too short for larger nibbed pens)--but you can't go wrong with either. They're both superb inks.
Montblanc The Beatles Psychedelic Purple Bottle Ink 116250 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077VRM5NZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_MN-HDb7F7GMPC
I’m sorry, it was foolish of me to assume that you were in the US too!
Here’s the link (turns out it’s actually 350ml) Ink 350ml INK350BB (japan import) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001P35A74/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_nGPXBbHBKKPT8
And since it is a japan import I’m thinking you should be able to pick up a bottle! However, I have no idea how the Amazon in India works, so maybe not. But worth a shot!
Pelikan 4001 Royal Blue is supposed to be truly washable from clothing - widely used in schools here (and you can use those ink eraser pens too on paper, and if you buy a jar of world's best ink remover it's completely washable from hands too.. might be washable with just soap and water even?)
It's now called inkzap apparently
https://www.indy-pen-dance.com/InkZap.html
Looks like Amazon has the 1 liter bottles, it's listed as black but you can choose Royal blue.
https://www.amazon.com/Pelikan-Bottled-Fountain-Brilliant-301168/dp/B000WKZBCK?th=1&amp;psc=1
Will get back with a Jinhao/hero list. (When it's not 3 am. Why the hell am I awake and on Reddit -> helps me feel back asleep)
Lamy also makes student school pens from wood with a few plastic parts. Those might be reasonably edible-proof if the plastic part can't come off? Lamy ABC https://www.amazon.com/LAMY-abc-Beginner-Nib-Fountain-x/dp/B000FA5EII/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1541470093&amp;sr=8-4&amp;pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&amp;keywords=lamy+abc+fountain+pen&amp;dpPl=1&amp;dpID=31fzHCKMqGL&amp;ref=plSrch
You can slide the students name into the cap.
I don't live in the US, but here in the Netherlands you can buy school pens in bulk at a discount if you're ordering as a school.(at heutink.nl but it's Netherlands only). You might have something similar in the US?
Ohh I'll have to check that out.
And I see you like Faber Castell, haha. But you should definitely keep checking massdrop every now and then. They get some good deals for fountain pens (everything else too)
But seriously, you're not kidding. After getting into fountain pens and writing with them, I take my time to write legibly. I love it!
And really good ink isn't bad at all! Check out Pilot Iroshizuku
I have a regular at the coffee shop I work at that's a fountain pen fiend and likes embarrassing the coworker he comes in with by giving a full description of the pen and ink he has that day if there's no one in line behind him. It's usually some TWSBI, don't remember which, but he uses the Iroshizuku Kon-Peki cerulean blue and it's absolutely gorgeous.
I "shamed him" the other day because he brags about his pen then found out how much the Rotring 800 I carry costs, then his embarrassed coworker said he has one too.
I found it here on US Amazon . I doubt it's available at someplace like Hobby Lobby or Michael's, but you never know.
I'm sure it can be used with a quill, but I suspect the effects won't be nearly as grand. I've tried it with a dip pen and it wasn't great. I've tried it in several fountain pens and the effects vary wildly. I've found it looks best with a smooth, juicier fountain pen.
Many cheap papers will bleed/feather with any kind of fountain pen ink. You'll need something that's a little heavier and, preferably, smoother. The smoother and less absorbent the paper, the more the ink sits on top and creates the awesome effects as it dries. However, it doesn't have to be expensive paper - I've had a lot of luck with slightly-nicer-than-dirt-cheap papers.
/r/fountainpens has taught me everything I know; highly recommended if you're at all interested!
They're now less than $22 on Amazon. Free shipping if you have Amazon Prime.
Aside from Pilot Parallel Mixable cartridges being sold in multicolour packs, I don't know of any. (But as an alternative, you can get sets of Pilot Petits or Platinum Preppies in a variety of colours relatively inexpensively.) Unfortunately those are not standard international cartridges. J. Herbin sells small (10 ml?) bottles of ink, but not in mixed sets of cartridges that I know of. It's odd, when you think about it - given the way people use pens now, with frequent ink colour changes, there might be a demand for sample packs like that, and manufacturers haven't caught on to the idea.
Addendum: I did find this: https://www.amazon.com/Gullor-International-Cartridge-Jinhao-Fountain/dp/B011QW2R7Y/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1478103325&amp;sr=8-7&amp;keywords=fountain+pen+ink+cartridges
Maybe it's available in your area or on ebay. Probably not the greatest ink though.
And this: https://www.amazon.com/Staedtler-Calligraphy-Pen-Set-Pieces/dp/B0009RRTBM/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1478102568&amp;sr=8-12&amp;keywords=pilot+parallel
Possibly an art store that carries calligraphy materials might have fountain pen cartridges in mixed packs or loose.
If it's a gift buy it new. It's [19$](J.Herbin 1670 Anniversary Fountain Pen Ink - Emerald of Chivor https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0124DT9L6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_61jnyb008JFSK) in amazon it might be worth it.
It's made by Noodler's Ink. I love their inks, and use them almost exclusively. Apache Sunset and other colors are available at Goulet Pens, and Amazon sells it, too. Goulet's customer service is outstanding, and they also also sell samples!
Namiki (Pilot) blue or Pilot blue-black both work well.
Cheap too:
https://www.amazon.com/Ink-350ml-INK350BB-japan-import/dp/B001P35A74/ref=pd_sim_229_1?_encoding=UTF8&amp;pd_rd_i=B001P35A74&amp;pd_rd_r=6KX6W2ZXR06XJYYJRCXA&amp;pd_rd_w=uw2oZ&amp;pd_rd_wg=k6rb6&amp;psc=1&amp;refRID=6KX6W2ZXR06XJYYJRCXA
I did a couple different ways for ebonizing, and I highly recommend india ink https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003IGK1OI/ref=oh_aui_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
over anything else. It's definitely the easiest and most reliable, and it doesn't matter what wood (or tannin content) you have.
I also recommend the oil based (not water) polyurethane. The water based can have cloudy white areas, and the oil based turns a much nicer gold color over time.
Good luck! Would love to see the end result.
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001P35A74?psc=1&amp;ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_pd_title
best: a tub of thinking putty off amazon. Damn that shit's addicting.
2nd best: my fountain pen. And then a hell of a lot of ink.
runner up: my angel wrap blanket from amazon. So fluffy and versatile
worst: One time they had cookies on sale at my school for 25c a cookie and 50 for a glass of milk and I handed over all the money I had (like 10 bucks) and then got a very very bad tummy ache.
I'd do it again if I had the opportunity honestly
For a fun teal, I suggest J. Herbin Emerald of Chivor. Here's a good purple, green, and pink.
Iroshizuku also have 15mL bottles that come in sets of three colors... for me it was ~$25 USD. My favorite is yama-budo from this set. Maybe these will be more easily available/affordable than shipping samples from the US?
Imo, the best way to improve your handwriting and become more confident with your pen is to use it a lot. And I totally agree with u/chewychubacca that once you get better ink, you'll want to write more. :)
Perhaps they can finally answer a question for r/fountainpens: how many pages would 1 litre of Pelikan 4001 Black get you?
Here is the Amazon link for the coke bottle ink.
hi I'm buying my first fountain pen, is this ink ok? it's a lot cheaper than the others I see
https://www.amazon.com/Waterman-Bottle-Fountain-Intense-S0110710/dp/B000J3VKH0/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1509978473&amp;sr=8-3&amp;keywords=fountain+pen+ink
The ink is probably this http://www.amazon.com/Noodlers-Ink-3Oz-Apache-Sunset/dp/B00362GU9E
The cartridge you see in the pictures is refillable.
Fountain pens usually start around $20 and go up to however much you're willing to spend.
There are fountain pens that can use both that type of refillable ink cartridges, and disposable capsules of ink.
Not exactly blue, but blue-black: Pilot blue-black. 350 ml of ink for $20! Smooth and fairly water proof.
I don't know how much it would cost in Europe, but Pilot is quite cheap in America, especially if you buy it in large bottles. Here's a 350ml (almost 12oz) bottle of black ink for 20 USD. It's also available in blue-black and red. That comes in at
No problem. Those come with an ink bladder (for use with an ink bottle) as well as one cartridge (disposable, and you can buy more).
Use both, see what you like. :) If you want really good ink (each bottle will last about 3-4 years) get this: http://www.amazon.com/Pilot-Iroshizuku-Fountain-Moonlight-69205/dp/B003MVIYZM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1410929922&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=pilot+iroshizuku
There are tons of colors to choose from. Pick one that's unique, but not overly festive (so a shade of blue or red, gray or black - no bright neon pink) and keep it. I know they don't come cheap, but remember, it's about 3-4 years of ink.
Are you using the speedball nibs in dip pens, or in fountain pens (in which there is an internal ink supply and the pen does not need to be repeatedly dipped into the ink)? If the former, then India ink should work fine. If the latter, you would need to use an ink that specifically says it's for fountain pens.
If you end up needing fountain pen ink for the whole class, I think Pilot's 350mL bottles are the best bulk value around. https://www.amazon.com/Ink-350ml-INK350BB-japan-import/dp/B001P35A74
This is really awesome, what a fun piece of art.
In case you didn't know there is actually a Beatles ink that Montblanc made (they also made a couple pens for them, but they are very expensive and not my cup of tea) The ink looks really nice, but pricey.
https://www.amazon.com/Montblanc-Beatles-Psychedelic-Purple-Bottle/dp/B077VRM5NZ
Awesome picks.
This is also a good collection:
Pilot Iroshizuku Mini Fountain Pen Ink - 15 ml Bottle 3 Colors Set - AS/SNK/YB (Japan Import) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PRCEAIO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_QkOLBbNAEB0JJ
Looks like one enterprising Amazon.co.jp seller is already trying to get in the game. I would expect others to do the same shortly.
Before starting, you should settle on a nib width that you are going to use. A lot of time people choose Medium because they think it's middle of the road and they often leave unsatisfied because it isn't. The line width you get from normal writing utensils tends to be more of a Fine on a fountain pen. I find it hard to get good handwriting with a medium nib whereas a fine is a lot easier.
Now at £10 here are some options:
There are plenty of other Chinese pens out there, and you could go search them and find one you like too. I'm partial to Baoer pens: for me they have written better than any other Chinese pen. A lot of people recommend Jinhao pens, but their nibs run wide and they dry out a lot quicker when left sitting.
As for bottled ink, I would suggest it for the Chinese pens because they come with the converter that is used to fill from the bottle. The inks I would recommend for you are:
Could get a Platinum Preppy or Pilot Varsity. I would recommend getting the Pilot MR Metropolitan for under $15. It includes a converter which allows you to refill your pen from a bottle of ink (much cheaper than buying cartridges). If you get the preppy and want to use bottle ink (much cheaper than cartridges), you will need to a converter for $5.
If you want some cheap ink, get [Pilot Blue Black](Ink 350ml INK350BB (japan import) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001P35A74/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_nBJMybE9X0Y0T). It's $22 for 350 mL ($0.06/mL) which should last a very long time. Cartridges are about $0.50/mL.
Would Amazon work?
> Why does it costs so much
I don't know why but you can get this ink brand for half the price on amazon all the time. For me in Canada, it costs ~$50/bottle. Amazon: $22.00
Ah, I already ordered the Lamy black ink because it looked really cost effective. I have a Lamy Nexx with whatever the default nib is. Is what I got okay?
Also Yama Budo for $15.29 and Take Sumi for $14.87
Haha, pretty much. Heavy glass soda style bottles. 11.83 ounces so nearly the same as a can of soda. Inked up forever for $22!
https://www.amazon.com/Ink-350ml-INK350BB-japan-import/dp/B001P35A74/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1500500408&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=pilot+350ml
They're not fancy inks but I keep over 20 pens inked so I use primarily safe and simple inks these days... and I just love the flow and feel of Pilot's inks.
Not really
Lamy black is "very fast" at drying and rated "high" for highlighter resistance. Source is jetpens comparison article that /u/blazing_7 mentioned.
Thats a very good idea! Thanks! I really want yama-budo. Its so pretty! I was actually looking at getting this:
Pilot Iroshizuku Mini Fountain Pen Ink - 15 ml Bottle 3 Colors Set - AS/SNK/YB (Japan Import) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PRCEAIO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_EXDKDbW5DVVHV
That way I get two more for a few bucks more.
I bought this from Amazon. If you have prime you have to choose a specific seller to get the 2 day shipping, because what is advertised (on the Canadian site) when you search for them is a non-prime seller.
Here is the link:
US: http://www.amazon.com/Pilot-Iroshizuku-Mini-Fountain-Pen/dp/B00PRC5BPA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1450305237&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=pilot+iroshizuku
Canada: http://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00PRC5BPA/ref=sr_ph?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1450305205&amp;sr=1&amp;keywords=iroshizuku
Really? So [this] (https://www.amazon.com/Waterman-S0112881-Convertor-Fountain-56010W/dp/B000WKM50G) works for a cheap Jinhao pen also?
I went through a lot of trial and error in the process almost ruining my 1.5mm parallel pen. But I finally learned and I've had great success with J. Herbin ink and Winsor & Newton Calligraphy Ink. What I do is save the old cartridges that come with the parallels, including the little ball that rolls around and I refill them using these syringes. This was done using the J. Herbin ink linked above.
You might already be aware, but please note: don't ever put india ink in a fountain pen unless you want a bad time! India ink will almost certainly clog up a pen (with shellac & other stuff), that's why specialized (more viscous) fountain pen inks exist! Anyway...
For brushes:
I went on quest to find the darkest, flattest, quickest to dry, and matte (no shiny shellac in this bottle) ink! What I found was Dr Martins Hi-Carb Black Star India Ink. This ink always dries without a hint of gradation, perfect for inking comics! OOh I love this ink.
For fountain pens:
After years of loving Noodler's Heart of Darkness ink (it's just so black!), I found something better last summer: Sailor Kiwa-Guro. My god, no words, it's hard to describe, and while it does dry a little slow, it DOESN'T BLEED EVER! Google image searches might help.
Anyway, uh, I love water based inks, can you tell ;)? I hope you find some favorites. My tastes are for ultra hi-contrast, but everyone is different. And oil based inks are another matter altogether...
P.S. My favorite travel brush pen is this guy. It's disposable and a little on the dry side, but the ink quality is fantastic. Out of the twelve or so brush pens I've tried, this is the only one I personally enjoy using. I notice jetpens has a 5pen sampler pack, you might wanna try that out.
One more vote for india ink. I've used it on red oak before and it turns completely jet black with the texture of the grain still visible but without any color variation.
If you want solid black no stain even comes close to india ink. It is also cheap and doesn't smell toxic. This is the one I used: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003IGK1OI/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I would get some india ink and try it out on a few scrap pieces of different woods. I suspect you'll find that you don't need to use a wood as expensive as walnut to get the result you are looking for - any inexpensive hardwood like oak should work just fine.
Recently the Montverde Invincia Stylus
http://www.gouletpens.com/Monteverde_Invincia_Stylus_Matte_Black_p/mv41178.htm
With a wicked blue ink
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003MVKFRW/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
Sailor Kiwa-Guro, definitely! A waterproof, pigmented ink that works well with pretty much any paper. Dries rather quick, and doesn't feather.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000J3VKH0?psc=1&amp;ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_pd_title
That's what I have and it just doesn't feel that nice. Pretty dark but has a lot of grey which I don't like.
Click to expand my chart. You'll see there are 3 types of sellers:
If Amazon (new) is available, I use that as my posted price. My chart will include all 3. The reason for using Amazon (new) over 3rd party is that the API doesn't factor in shipping, so the 3rd party sellers price is misleading more often than not.
If you click over to the all items page, you'll see the $22 price from Amazon, as well as the other 3rd party sellers.
PS: For amazon prices, I do a real time lookup, so my published numbers are always correct at the moment my post is made.
I bought this and barely used any
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003IGK1OI/ref=sxts1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1482985846&amp;sr=1&amp;pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65
You'd be fine with the small container but I'm glad I went with this. It's a better deal and I'll be finishing a few more guitars for friends with it in the future.
Same goes for Tru oil. I got the 32oz but you only need the smallest one for one guitar.
E: also I don't mind at all. I'm glad to help. Once you get the body you should make a post here and let us know what kind of finish you are trying for. Pictures and examples will help.
The community is super helpful here. Someone will be able to help you even more than I could. I'm still pretty new to this myself :)
Would India ink work?
I just posted this in a vaguely similar thread. It's less about the details of your adventure and more about the delivery:
Create ambiance:
Consider presentation and "the reveal"
Think of "gimmicks" to add realism and creepiness:
A warning about gimmicks: the more gimmicky they are, the greater the chance that they'll become campy or funny. But if you pull them off well, they'll make for an excellent experience. :-)
Good luck!
What marketed place on the totem pole? Montblanc doesn't even acknowledge the existence of other pen companies, they don't advertise their ink as being superior to others.
On US Amazon Iroshizuku and Montblanc inks are both around $20, and Montblanc bottles have 10 ml more ink.
>Though everything you said holds true for both montblanc’s ink lineup and Pilot’s
Then why does Pilot's ink put Montblanc's to shame if they are so similar? To me it seems like the difference between the two is just in color, not quality.
Oh! If you're interested in Pilot's Blue Black, on Amazon there's a 350mL version in a glass bottle imported from Japan that works out to be great value for money. Here
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It's impossible for me to not smile when I look at this
needs moar fountain pen ink
Starter: Lamy Safari with some cartridges.
I have this pen at work and use cartridges rather than a converter to save time and prevent potential catastrophes of filling them. If you like the fountain pen in the GIF, TWSBI Vac 700, should be a great second starter or you can get a converter; just know you'll need bottled ink.
My favorite ink right now is Pilot Iroshizuku, lines are clean for most of my foutain pens, it dries decently fast and is easy to clean out of the pen aswell.
It is it is and I am using the Pilot Iroshizuku Shin-Ryoku Ink
http://www.amazon.com/Pilot-Iroshizuku-Fountain-Turquoise-69212/dp/B003MVKFRW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1409370594&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=pilot+iroshizuku+ink
350mL of Pilot blue/black
I just bought a Conklin Herringbone with EF nib, and Pilot Iroshizuku ink. All-time favorite pen now!
You can definitely manage to get Iroshizuku bottles for lower than that in the UK though. For example, how about these. These are from Japan, so have a longer shipping time, but have no import fees as the are under the threshold, and have Amazon customer service regardless. I'm not trying to be rude or anything, but I think you may be somewhat overpriced, with shipping costs taken into account, some of them price pretty closely with the main UK storefronts (Thewritingdesk.co.uk has them for £27.50).
If you do lower the price, I am interested in a few of the iroshizuku bottles. If not, I wish you the best in selling them.
NOTE: I just realized this ink is not recommended for fountain pens, but is good for dip pens or brush pens.
https://www.jetpens.com/Noodler-s-Ink-Opaque-White-Ink-1-oz-Bottle-White-Peacock-1-Free-Pen/pd/4736
I did find this https://www.gouletpens.com/products/de-atramentis-document-white-35ml-bottled-ink
You can also get transparent ink that lights up under a black light.
https://www.amazon.com/Noodlers-Bulletproof-Ghost-Invisible-Fountain/dp/B000WJ1MJC
Diamine, tons of colors and are affordable (especially in Europe) many colors are dupes of more expensive inks out there. They likely make ink for other companies that sell ink but don't have ink manufacturing capabilities, like Akkerman. They have a lot of great colors, but their water resistance is generally low.
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Noodler's would be the ton's of colors and affordable US company but he's a 1 man show so people don't have much faith in him combined with his political views he's one of the more controversial company/people in the fountain pen world. He seems to experiment with inks and ink properties so he has some interesting water resistant colors and UV glowing colors out there.
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I like water resistant inks so I'm a fan of Pilot Blue and Blue Black, Platinum Blue Black, Platinum Classic Iron Gall series, Platinum Pigment ink series, and Sailor Nano-pigment Seiboku and Souboku.
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If you're looking for great bang for buck blue ink, I would buy a 350ml Pilot Blue Black bottle for 20 something dollars. But you'll need another bottle to put that into, so either an empty bottle or another bottle of a nicely shaped Pilot Blue Black.
Here's a handy refill for the 4001: https://www.amazon.com/Pelikan-Bottled-Fountain-Brilliant-301168/dp/B000WKZBCK
Maybe do 50% blue, 50% black.
The Pilot Blue-Black is only 350 mL, not a full liter. If you're willing to wait for slow shipping, it's only $22.
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If you want a full liter of ink, you can get some Pelikan 4001 from Amazon Germany for only €26.45 plus shipping.
https://www.amazon.com/Pilot-Iroshizuku-Fountain-Turquoise-69212/dp/B003MVKFRW/ref=pd_sim_229_12?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B003MVKFRW&pd_rd_r=c0b3ea6e-bb59-11e8-ac55-834a4eb79bb6&pd_rd_w=dSRNl&pd_rd_wg=tKCoK&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=18bb0b78-4200-49b9-ac91-f141d61a1780&pf_rd_r=5G1GW415BDE0Q8SWDBFX&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=5G1GW415BDE0Q8SWDBFX
Yeah? Here's the link! 😉👌
(http://emojipedia.org/people/)
Ah, a journal you say? That sounds lovely. A journal is a lovely way to record and store your excess thoughts. You can look back on them and reflect, and compare your current thoughts to how you used to think in the past. It's a good way to keep track of the way your mind can mature over time. If you organize your thought processes, they flow much more easily and much more naturally. It can be a very calming process. Personally, I know it relaxes me.
Have you ever used a fountain pen before? A friend of mine recommended them to me about a year or so ago. I absolutely love writing with mine. It has a certain way of flowing, you know? My thoughts come straight out of my brain through my neck, down to my right shoulder, through my arm, into my right hand, and it feels almost like the electricity courses through my fingers and I like...become the pen, in a way.
You know? It's nice man. 👌
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tI-5uv4wryI
(Champagne Supernova - Oasis)
(https://www.amazon.com/JinHao-X750-Silver-Fountain-Pen/dp/B00CC76756 for a fountain pen like mine. $3.86.)
(https://www.amazon.com/Lamy-Bottled-Blotting-Paper-Black-LT52BK/dp/B0026I6SM8 for ink like mine. around $10.50. Lasts a few months.)
Enjoy man.
Oh yeah, I work at a small Japanese restaurant somewhere in Santa Cruz. Don't look for me too hard, or I'll disappear! 😉👌
I stopped going to community college...finished my Gen Ed..but I love learning. I just read the textbooks, you know? Sometimes I'll just go to school and drop into the classes or ask people questions about the material. People love teaching each other, you know? 👌
Here's another seller that is Prime/Fulfilled by Amazon.
Tsuki-yo for $19.99
J. Herbin 1670 Anniversay Bottled Fountain Pen Ink, 50ml - Stormy Grey
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NVFMK6I/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_UTpPub01H3SA3
Here is a link to photos : http://imgur.com/a/budvz
I just ordered a bottle :)
>1) did you flush you pen with soapy water?
No. Should I do that now?
>2) what kind of paper are you using? did you try lower quality, not very smooth paper?
I'm using standard computer printer paper.
>3) what ink are you using?
Pretty sure it's... www.amazon.com/Lamy-Bottled-50ml-Blotting-Paper-Black/dp/B0026I6SM8/ref=sr_1_2?s=office-products&ie=UTF8&qid=1377150718&sr=1-2&keywords=Lamy+ink
Waterman Standard Convertor https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B000WKM50G/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_fyCOAbASEF31T
This was the seller you can get yourself - not sure if it was legit or a mistake!
On Amazon UK they range from around £12-18.
For example this Shin Kai is £12.67, whereas this Kon Peki is £18.68.
I'll buy this off you if you can beat amazon's price of $19 shipped
http://www.amazon.com/Pilot-Iroshizuku-Fountain-Pen-Ink/dp/B0018HJVS6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1453994186&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=kon+peki
About three days ago, it was down to 18 and change. That is a pretty good price, pretty much every store in Toronto would sell that for over $35 (some stores sell that at $48).
https://www.wonderpens.ca/Pilot_Iroshizuku_Fountain_Pen_Ink_Ku_Jaku_50mL_p/ink-50-kj.htm
EDIT: Sorry, I should have mentioned the Kon-Peki was at 18.77.
http://www.amazon.ca/Pilot-Iroshizuku-Fountain-Pen-Ink/dp/B0018HJVS6/ref=sr_1_1?s=office&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1449368353&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=iroshizuku
What about this
PILOT Iroshizuku Bottled Fountain Pen Ink, Yama-Budo, Crimson Glory Vine (Purple Red) 50ml Bottle (69217) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003MVMBHE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_x3k4Db67S53V8
I had a bottle of Pilot Iroshizuku that I refilled at work regularly.
There are people who enjoy good pens ( cough r/fountainpens *cough ) and good inks.
There are dozens of us! DOZENS
Have fun! I'd also recommend getting something fun for your first ink, boring ink makes for boring writing. Something like this is probably the most recommended blue ink that's readily available, and it's like $16 right now.
I would recommend a Pilot Custom Heritage 912 with a FA nib. And also a few shading inks like J.Herbin Emerald of Chivor, Noodler's Apache Sunset, and Noodler's Black Swan Australian Rose.
There are also several flex pens that have been restored by u/willvintage on sale over on his website.
Thanks. But I need them shipped to the US within the next week or so. Amazon has them for $20 but it ships from Japan, so I thought I'd try my luck here.
A Jinhao X750 is an excellent pen for very little money, add a bottle of Lamy Black and your on budget. The X750 is an excellent looking, well made pen that easily keeps up with far more expensive pens. Lamy ink bottles come with blotting paper, have a depression in the center to make filling easier, and are nearly impossible to tip over.
Jinhao X750:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01EB0HK0M/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1463094383&amp;sr=8-1&amp;pi=SY200_QL40&amp;keywords=jinhao+X750lamy+black&amp;dpPl=1&amp;dpID=41ubDjbLk7L&amp;ref=plSrch
Lamy Black:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0026I6SM8/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?qid=1463094122&amp;sr=8-2&amp;pi=SY200_QL40&amp;keywords=lamy+black&amp;dpPl=1&amp;dpID=414DQVSFjeL&amp;ref=plSrch
The seller I got mine from appears to be sold out of this set. There are other sellers, but for more than the $34 I paid. Or you could get a different set.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PRC5BPA
The main item would be the ink, so here's the info on that:
Name: "Noodler’s Bulletproof Blue Ghost Invisible Fountain Pen Ink"
$14 for 3oz
Source Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxcK-V-tf8E
Product Links:
>(these are taken from the description of the video and are affiliate links, so will help out the video creator)
Invisible Ink: http://amzn.to/2n1pHRg
Black Light: http://amzn.to/2newY0J
You would of course need a black light for this to glow, and turning it off will not show the ink at all.
The glass dip pens he linked to are sold out, so I found similar ones here that range from $20 to $90:
http://www.thewritingpenstore.com/c-126-glass-dip-pens.aspx
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003MVKFRW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
Is this a generally well liked ink? I bought a bottle and I seem to like it, wondering what other people think about it before I buy more lol.
I ordered him this ink - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NVFMK6I/
That does look like a really nice pen. My current (or soon to be secondary pen) is the Waterman Hémisphère in black which was pretty nice, but wanted to go "up" in terms of quality.
I'm new to the separate inks side of fountain pens, so at the moment I've just got a bog standard Waterman black ink from Amazon: http://amzn.to/2hfeIQu. I thought I'd go with a cheap set to get the feel of using the inks, and will run from there into some nicer ones.
Just this week I got Kon-peki and Shin-kai for $19 each and Momiji for $15 on Amazon.com. All had Prime shipping.
For Yama-budo, anywhere from $20-25 is a typical price on Amazon.com; earlier in the fall it was under $20 for several weeks (CamelCamelCamel). Occasionally it's cheaper from a third-party seller who ships directly from Japan, but the savings are usually on the order of $2-3 with a wait time of two weeks (as opposed to two days).
I haven't thought out a price and won't have pics on hand until after work, but I think this would fit the bill and your price point:
It's not being sold on their website. So would this work as well?
That is pretty cool. So I could technically mix my own colors right?
Bungbox? The Sailor ones? Yeah, they’re quite cheap.
Can’t beat that per ml though: Pilot 350 ml bottles, black, blue black, red.