Best bottles & water filtration systems according to redditors

We found 945 Reddit comments discussing the best bottles & water filtration systems. We ranked the 230 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the top 20.

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Camping & hiking hydration flasks
Camping chemical water treaters
Camping & hiking water filters
Camping & hiking water purifiers
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Top Reddit comments about Camping & Hiking Hydration & Filtration Products:

u/uski · 78 pointsr/preppers

A few more ideas :

I would suggest having a battery-powered FM radio (and extra batteries if it's battery powered, or get one which charges via USB like the one I linked) to listen to the news and get vital information.

Also (if not too late), order a sawyer mini (best) or lifestraw (not as good). If you don't have access to clean water it can help you stay healthy (beware of chemical contamination which cannot be removed by these).

If you have the money, get a Garmin inReach satellite communicator (requires a (relatively cheap) subscription, down to $15ish a month). You can request SOS (much like 911), and send/receive SMS and e-mails, even without cell coverage. Excellent to keep in touch with relatives and in case of emergency. Can be used year-round when hiking, snow-mobile, skiing, ... Don't tell anyone you have this...

Download the offline map of your area on Google Maps on your phone beforehand. Can be priceless to navigate around and doesn't require internet access. Also get the Maps.Me app and download the map of your area too. Google Maps offline maps will expire and disappear from your phone after 30 days (I believe), Maps.Me maps will not.

If the cell service in your area is out of order, use your phone in airplane mode so that it doesn't continuously and desperately looks for a cell to connect to, which will drain the battery VERY quickly. Also use it on the lowest practical brightness setting to save battery power.

If not too late, get big USB power banks (>=10000mAh such as this one) and fully charge them beforehand. It's good as barter items and it can be nice to recharge your things when you have no access to a generator (on the go, or if you don't want to run the generator to avoid attracting attention). You can also get USB lights (this one for instance) and your powerbank doubles as a flashlight with a very long battery life.

Get a first aid kit, and not just one with bandaids... Get a CAT tourniquet, trauma dressing, Celox (preferred) or QuikClot bandage, triangular bandage, SAM splint, ... and know how to use them. Also get the basic medecines (stomach/diarrhea relief, basic painkillers, anti-allergy, and any prescription medecine if you require any). Remember 911 service may be unavailable for some time and you need to be able to take care of injuries. Tourniquets save lives, everyone should have one readily available.


I am a radio amateur and in these situations I like to have one or two portable radio for two-way communication but I realize it is not for everybody. Still, a pair of FRS/GMRS radio can be helpful. Please note that GMRS requires a (cheap) license in the USA. I would recommend this model which also allows to be used as a scanner and to program the NOAA weather frequencies (do it beforehand) and some local police/EMS/fire frequencies (if allowed in your juridiction).

Please DO NOT use a radio made for amateur radio use, where you can transmit on any frequency, such as the UV-5R; you may interfere with emergency communications, even if you can't hear them, miles away. Please stick to the FRS/GMRS frequencies. The radio above guarantees safe operation and still allows to be used as a scanner.


Take pictures of all your important documents (ID, properties, ...) and store them in a waterproof plastic bag. Try to keep at least your passport and driver license with you during the storm...

If you have a sump pump, try to arrange so that it can be battery powered and/or connected to your generator. If using battery power, get a battery charger and/or a generator connection, if the outage lasts and the battery runs down. Sometimes homes are not affected by the main storm but are flooded due to the lack of power around the storm and are still ruined, and that's totally preventable.

Also, beforehand, depending of the situation you might want to BLOCK your main sewage pipe. This way you might avoid sewage backflow into your home. There are normally valves already installed but in case of serious flooding (high backpressure) they sometimes are not up to the task.


Download a few offline movies on the Netflix app (if you have Netflix). I never lived though a hurricane but I assume after a few days/weeks, you might want some entertainment. You can also download e-books. Bonus if it's survival-related e-books.


Hope this helps... good luck to those affected

PS: oooo, thank you stranger for the gold, I think I never had one before ! Happy prepping :)

u/timmy_the_large · 65 pointsr/preppers

Life straw is not a great product. Spend a little extra and get the Sawyer. It is a better, more useful product. It just doesn't have as cool of a name.

u/retrogradeprogress · 45 pointsr/NewOrleans

as long as you only fill them right before an weather event and make sure they are keeped clean (from mold after being empty) I think it's a good idea. I like this jug more because it's clear and I can see if mold occurs

u/jason22internet · 34 pointsr/backpacking

Those are not designed to purify water.

You want these guys:

Or these:

filter? check out the Sawyer Mini:

if you're in a pinch, do a little homework with using ordinary bleach ... or prepare to boil

u/NinjaNachos · 30 pointsr/Ultralight

Titanium Pot - 28 oz savings ($35)

Drop The mug, just use your pot - 4 oz savings (free)

Trowel instead of shovel - 16 oz savings ($20)

Drop the solar panel (doesn't really work well on the move) - 10-ish savings (free)

Sawyer Squeeze instead of Katadyn - 8 oz savings ($30)

Dance Pants instead of packed pants - 14 oz saved ($18) although you probably dont need these since you're wearing zip off pants

I would add a puffy to your clothing, it will get pretty cold - 10 oz gained (can be found on sale for $40)

Leave the extra shirts at home - 12 oz saved (free)

Just bring one extra payer of underwear and socks - 6 oz saved (free)

Leave campshoes at home - 23 oz saved (free)

I really don't know what the survival kit contains, but it can probably be paired down or eliminated

Don't know what the carabiners are for if you're hanging stuff outside your pack you're bringing too much - 4 oz saved (free)

Don't know what the tarp is for the sierras, you already have a tent

125 oz saved or almost 8 pounds. Coming in at a cost around $150.

I would start here and then look at replacing your bigger items. The easiest one to save the most weight would be your pack.

Hope this helps!

u/itravelandwheel · 28 pointsr/camping

I prefer these 7 gallon jugs. They're a LOT stronger than 5 gallon bottles and hold more. You can also stack things on top of them when packing your camping gear whereas the 5 gallons can break pretty easy if you put something on top.

I also use these jugs for fish tank water (RODI) and keep 6 full in my garage just in case we have a water issue. They're stacked 3 high in a cupboard.

u/Run-The-Table · 27 pointsr/Ultralight

I use a BeFree 1L bag, and this

It's fast, easy, and mostly idiotproof.

u/ETMoose1987 · 25 pointsr/preppers

Get a sawyer mini instead, about the same price and you don't have to bend down and stick your face in the water.

Sawyer Products SP128 Mini Water Filtration System, Single, Blue

u/tiredofyourshitrdt · 25 pointsr/CampingGear

Maybe not life changing in the strictest sense but the CNOC vecto was a pretty low-commitment, low-cost convenience upgrade that made water collection and treatment easier for me.

I had been using basically a "storage bag" and so the Vecto having that wide, ziploc mouth makes collection easier in more varied conditions, and the threaded cap on the other end fits a variety of filters and - filter depending - can be used to rig up a gravity filter so long as you make sure to differentiate your dirtywater bladder from your clean bladder, which is easy since CNOC makes 2 colors.

Collect water faster (great in cold conditions) and with more precision (great in tepid ponds, don't have to dunk the whole bladder in), and can use chemical treatment in conjunction with common filters. for $15 on amazon, why the hell not?

So yeah, not "life changing" but definitely a product that is a really great value, IMO.

u/Gumburcules · 20 pointsr/washingtondc

> I usually bring a flask to Nats Park and buy a coke at concessions.


Nats let you bring in a sealed bottle of water.

Bring a pot of water to a boil, turn off the heat. Take two sealed bottled waters, and cut the top 1/3 of the bottle off of one, and take just the cap and sealing ring off the other.

Soak the cut off bottle top in the hot water for 30 seconds or so. This will make the plastic pliable enough that you can pull off the intact cap and sealing ring without breaking the seal.

Fill the second bottle with your clear liquor of choice, and carefully screw the intact cap and seal from the first bottle onto the second.

Presto, you just got 16.9 ounces of white rum into Nats stadium.

Or you can be lazy and just stick one of these in your underwear.

u/just_smart_enough · 18 pointsr/BuyItForLife

I've recently bought a lot of this stuff after doing a good amount of research. Here are my recommendations:

Tent - I would get an Alps tent if you want a good value tent but aren't as worried about weight. How many people will you be going with?

Sleeping Bag - I have this sleeping bag which I absolutely love, but I haven't been able to find it online since I bought it. It packs as small as down sleeping bags but costs a fraction of the price and will still keep you warm in 30 degree weather (which it's done for me).

Pack - I just bought the Osprey Volt 75L which I think is a great value even though I haven't used it yet. I got it for $140 on amazon and the 60L version is less expensive than that. I'm not sure if this pack is bulletproof but it has great reviews and Osprey products are known for their high quality.

Cooking- I use this pot which works perfectly with a pocket rocket. I'm not sure what you mean by fire making equipment but if it's not below freezing or at a high altitude, the gas canisters are the most efficient and reliable way to cook food. Also, they're extremely light. If you're using a fire to cook you'll need a heavier duty pot/pan.

Clothes - I just look for good deals and buy when I find one. Get a good shell that's waterproof and breathable. I have a Marmot Nano AS Jacket that I love. Just make sure you have a baselayer that wicks sweat away and other layers that can pack down. DON'T USE ANY COTTON CLOTHES!

Tools - Other than a knife I have found any tools that are useful for their weight. If you have a solid knife you should be good.

Misc - Here's other things in my list for camping/backpacking:

Sleeping Pad - I use the Alps Sleeping Pad. You definitely need a sleeping pad if you're camping in colder weather for the insulating properties. You'll lose a significant amount of heat through the cold hard ground without a pad. The Alps pad is a little heavier but they're very durable and a great value.

Paracord - It's always useful to have paracord for different things.

Water Filter - You need this if you're going to the backcountry. It's not realistic to bring enough water with you for a weeklong trip. I have use this MSR water filter and the Sawyer Squeeze. The MSR filter costs more, but works very well and is fairly durable. The Sawyer Filter weighs almost nothing, but it's a little more difficult to use and definitely more difficult if you're trying to filter large quantities of water.

Not everyone will agree with everything on my list, but I try to find the best value in my gear. I look for the best value in terms of price, quality, weight, and packability. There are higher quality options that weigh less but cost more. There are other lower quality options that cost less. You'll have to decide what your balance is, but this should be a good list to get you started.

u/BeatMastaD · 18 pointsr/bugout

You just need to have what you might need, BOBs are generally for evacuations whereas what you are describing is just normal day to day things. I'll try to make a list anyway but you'll have to add things you want to have.

Since you don't plan on carrying this the bag could just be a large backpack, or even a duffle bag. You don't need the tacticool hi-speed lo-drag coolest BOB out there.

I would divide things into categories and keep them in their own dividers. For instance, you could get 2 of something like this and some sort of larger bag for all your clothing. It will make it much easier than just having a bag full of stuff. You could probably fit most clothing in one, and just have the jacket and jeans outside of it. You could also vacuum seal your clothing into compact flat bags to make them easier to handle.


3 - comfortable t-shirts. You could even just buy a pack of 3 hanes shirts for the purpose.

1 - Jacket - just in case it's winter time

3 - underwear, whatever kind you wear

1 - athletic shorts

1 - pair of jeans

3 - pairs of socks

1 - towel? If they will provide showers but not towels


(all this should be travel sized, they sell everything I will name at walmart in travel sizes for $1)

1 - toothpaste

1 - toothbrush

1 - Shampoo/conditioner

1 - body wash (bar soap sucks to store after 1 use)

1 - deoderant (will melt and leak in a hot car, even the white powder kind. Keep this in mind

1 - pack of baby wipes. These are good for a 'hobo shower' which is likely what will be available to you. I would still bring the other stuff though just in case, and you can always wash your hair with a bucket of water to rinse.


These will spoil in a hot car, but you should keep a few days supply of any medications you might need on you somehow, or if there is a way to store them at the office do that (maybe they can be locked in a cabinet or something?) I'd keep them in an old prescription bottle with your info on it, you can scratch out the medicine name if you want.)

EXTRA GLASSES if you wear contacts or glasses.


A completely spare phone charger that you will never remove from the bag unless you literally have no other choice. This cannot be left at home because you took it out and forgot to put it back in.

Other chargers for whatever you might need. If you might have your iPad for instance, bring a charger for that if it's different than phone.

You can consider a charging battery pack like this (I am not recommending that model though, it's first on Amazon)


Don't know what kind of facilities they would have, but you can bring dehydrated food if there will be a way to boil water. If not you're going to have to stick with ready to eat foods like jerky, pop-tarts, tuna packets, granola bars, etc. Whatever you like, you won't want to be eating shitty food you hate in this situation.


Typical recommendations are 1 gallon/person/day so that's 3 gallons. That's a lot of water to store, but if you need to then I'd recommend a case or two of water in the car. You want to switch these out every once in a while as plastic leeches into the water after a while. Just switch it every few months or so. You can also get a nalgene bottle and keep that full, but that's not even a days worth of drinking water.

If you somehow think you'll have non-potable water available and need a filter then I'd recommend this for cheap, this for a more pricey option that can also be more easily shared with others.

If you think you'll need to boil water/cook food you should be fine with this and a can of butane fuel for it. This you don't want to leave in a florida car in the summer either though.

u/skinrust · 18 pointsr/preppers

You're asking a very broad question while looking for specifics, making it very hard to pinpoint an answer. I'll give my advice on bug out bag items.

The bag itself - Should be a solid backpacking bag. Keep it light enough that it's manageable. For a very fit individual, the max weight should be your body weight divided by 3. Most of us are not that fit, so adjust accordingly. It should have hip support, well stitched straps, several compartments and a way to attach things to the outside (molle webbing, carabiner loops or exterior straps). Should be weatherproof.
Water - Depends entirely on your location. I live in Canada - Land of lakes and rivers. I wont need to carry a ton of water all the time. I've got a sawyer squeeze as my primary water filter. The collapsible water bottles it comes with work great for water storage as well. Wife and daughter carry a lifestraw as backups. We have some iodine drops as well.
As far as water carrying devices go, i find nalgene bottles work great. Theyre light and strong, and come in various sizes. A canteen is great if you want to use it to cook over a fire. Its not a bad idea either to have a large (5 litre+) collapsible water container. They're plastic and light. I havn't used mine extensively enough to recommend.
Sharp Things - I've got a Kabar as my primary fixed blade. It's tried and true. Good metal, full tang. I've got a leatherman wave multitool. Carry it everyday on my belt. Super handy. I should really add a 3-4" folding knife to my pack as sometimes the kabar is too big, and the multitool is hard to clean.
I also carry a Cold steel shovel. I looked into folding shovels, and they didnt seem reliable. Moving parts means they're more likely to fail. I haven't used this one extensively, but the few times i have tried it, its done an excellent job. If your pack's too heavy, put this one in your car.
Food - Your typical protein bars, dried rice/bean mix, snickers, small jar of PB, oatmeal and dehydrated fruit. A small bit of olive oil packs a ton of calories and adds flavour. It's good to have a small container of salt and pepper, or other spices to add flavour. You can grab MRE's or those mountainhouse dried meals, but theyre expensive. If you regularly buy pepperettes or jerkey, stick some in your bag and rotate it out when you buy it next. Multivitamins can keep you up if youre not getting a ton of food, but dont rely on them. Bring any meds you need, as well as tylenol or aspirin.
Hygiene - Pack a couple rolls of TP. Toothbrush, toothpaste, deodorant (chuck if too much weight), wash cloth, soap, soap for clothing, feminine products (if applicable), couple garbage bags (can separate dirty clothes), wet wipes, lip balm, hand sanitizer. Sun screen and bug spray in small bottles.
Clothing - Carry at least 7 pairs of good socks. Some warm ones if the location's cold. Extra shirts, underwear are essential. Pants/shorts and sweater are optional (besides whatever you're wearing). Stick your clothing in a waterproof sack. Try to keep only clean, dry clothes in there (no airflow + damp = mold).
-Paracord and rope
-Sewing kit
-Tent patching kit (if you have a tent or a tarp)
-Tarp (who saw that coming). Doesn't have to be massive. Just know how to set it up to keep you dry.
-Fire Source. Have many. Lighters are cheap, stash away a bunch (7?). The lighter leash is awesome. You should be able to find that cheap at a corner store. Storm matches, for when its rainy. I think these are what I got. You can light them in any weather, put them under water, and they'll still be lit. Not a bad idea to carry regualr matches in a waterproof container. Firestarter packets are great. I just soak cotton balls in Vaseline. Flint and steel is cool, but only useful if youve exhausted all other fire starting methods.
-Super Glue
-Safety pins
-Zip ties
-Light. Hand crank flashlight is awesome. If you have a battery powered one, carry spare batteries. The mini maglite has a belt holster. Those small LED flashlights are great too. Grab a few glowsticks.
-fork and spoon
-emergency blanket or emergency sleeping bag. Only useful if you're SOL.
-sleeping bag for your location. If its warm you don't need this. Can use a hammock or sleeping pad. Try and keep these small as they take up a ton of space.
-Compass. Useful if you have a map.
-Map of your location/where youre going.
-Signal mirror and a good whistle.
-Fishing supplies. I've got an emmrod. You can put a fairly small cheap reel on here. I've got the shimano ix2000. It casts a pretty good distance. Hooks, weights, bobs etc. Can all fit in small waterproof containers or camera film containers. Dont forget line! Mines already on the reel. A fishing vest gives you lots of little pockets to keep things in arms reach.
-First Aid kit. There's extensive lists online depending on how large you want it. Some gauze, band aids, polysporin, burn cream are a good start. Try and build it yourself, don't buy the gimmikey premade ones. Keep yours in a waterproof Tupperware container.
-Tiny roll of Gorilla Tape
-Games. Some dice and a deck of cards go a long way. Don't underestimate the value of laughter. If a sudden collapse ever happens, these might save you from depression.
-Headlamp. I've got this rayovac one (i think). Seems easy on batteries and has lasted a few camping trips. Haven't put serious use on it tho.
-Eating equipment. A mug and a small plate go a long way. A folding pan goes a long way, but is heavy. I would love to learn to use a pressure cooker over fires.
-Handkerchief or travel kleenex
-Bandanas. 3 of them.
-Bungee cords can be useful, but they run the risk of snapping and taking out an eye.
-Ziplock bags are handy. Keeps a lot of small things organized and dry.
-Pencils, Pens, notepad/book, sharpie.
-Hatchet is useful, but heavy. Take one if you can. The sven saw is awesome and hasn't broke on me yet.
-Spare pair of glasses (if applicable)
-Some sort of firearm is almost necessary. I don't have one yet, but i was planning on a 10/22 takedown. It's small and easy to pack. Bullets are light. If you need more stopping power than a .22, you're in a heap of trouble. Guns are not my specialty (can you guess), so ill leave it up to you
-In lieu of a firearm, you could grab a crossbow. If that's still too much, a good slingshot will do great.
-phone booklet and address's. In case your phone craps out and you cant charge it.
-A small windable clock is great. A solar watch is better. I think thats the one i have.

All this stuff is useless unless you know how to use it. Do your research, take some courses. Learn the necessary skills to survive, because that's what's really necessary. I like Les Stroud's (survivorman) book Survive!. Learn to tie knots, fish, hunt, forage, fight, build a fire in all conditions, etc.
If you have questions on the use of any of the above items, ask away. Any advice or suggestions, I welcome those too.

u/RoboNinjaPirate · 18 pointsr/CampingGear

Sawyer Squeeze Water filter. You will be tempted to get the Sawyer mini instead, and save a few dollars and a miniscule amount of weight. Don't. Get the Squeeze instead.

u/chrono13 · 18 pointsr/CampingGear

Get the Sawyer mini instead for $19:

Anyone looking at this should look at the Sawyer as a (better) alternative.


  • 264 gallons total filtration per straw.
  • Shelf Life: 5 years when stored at room temperature (package may say 3 years).
  • .2 micron filtration

    Sawyer filter:

  • 100,000 gallons (actually more, but this is the guarantee)
  • Shelf life: no limit on shelf life. Only temperature constraint is it should not be allowed to freeze.
  • .1 micron filtration

    Lifestraw is $20. Sawyer is $20. I own the Sawyer and the flow through it is easy. It comes with a squeeze bag, but also attaches to regular bottles. Fill an empty Pepsi/Coke/Water bottle with nasty water, screw on the Sawyer and you are good to go. It works with Platypus bags, and as an inline or end filter for any hydration bladder.

    If there is something special about the Lifestraw that I am missing, please let me know. I see tons of news, charaties buying them for 3rd world countries, and outdoor enthusiast recommending it. I do not see any advantage it has over a Sawyer filter.

    Edit: One comparison:

    For me, the multiple ways of using the Sawyer have been the biggest benefit. I've used my Squeeze in a bucket gravity system, attached to bottles (ultralight backpacking) and with a straw (like a Lifestraw). I will often squeeze enough water to fill a Gatorade bottle or two before moving away from the water source. Now I have the mini and the flow rate is even better - best of any filter I've ever used, and it is still incredibly versatile.
u/superpopcone · 17 pointsr/berkeley

Seeing as both wildfires and power outages are going hand in hand, I want to repost an FAQ I wrote from last year for wildfire safety, updated with some power outage info. I'll be updating and simplifying this as time allows - hopefully it's comprehensive.

EDIT: Exceeded word count, I extended it into the comment responses. Check Table of Contents for whatever info you care about.



Wildfires - Enhance awareness by checking fires and AQI, and buy/wear a valved N95-rated respirator (NOT a regular surgical mask). Most importantly, ensure a proper fit/seal if you don't want short or long term respiratory problems/failure.

Power Outages - Stay informed. Prepare 2 weeks worth of water and cash. Move things to fridge/freezer for up to 48 hours of storage.

Evacuations - Sonoma County is currently being evacuated as the Kincade Wildfire razes homes to the ground. Cal Maritime Academy was evacuated yesterday (10-27) due to the Vallejo ("Glen Cove") Fire. You decide if you want to prepare for evacuation - details below if so.


Table of Contents

  1. General Info - Power Outages and Wildfires
  2. Wildfire Safety - Respirator Masks
  3. Power Outages - Preparedness
  4. Evacuations - Go Bag


    1. GENERAL INFO - Power Outages and Wildfires

    What's going on with power outages?

    PG&E is implementing PSPS, "Public Safety Power Shutoffs", during times of high fire risk (dry, high winds), in an attempt to prevent wildfires.


    How do I stay up to date about power outage information? Am I affected?

    Official City of Berkeley webpage about PG&E outages.

    PG&E Outage subpage.

    PG&E outage map - use to check if you're out of power.

    PG&E's Twitter may be a better information source if high traffic causes other websites to go down.

    Other alternative sources available here.


    What's on fire right now?

    Official California wildfire maps here. A colored highlighted section will appear when a fire perimeter for a significant fire is created. Incidents not covered by CalFire (the state fire department) are listed as "Not a CAL FIRE Incident", in which you can click on it to find out which local city fire department will have more information. Status updates and evacuation orders are listed under each fire's specific page.


    Tell me about the Air Quality Index (AQI)?

    Official EPA AQI website here. The AQI is a metric used to measure air quality and certain pollutants, such as PM2.5 and ozone.

    Unofficial AQI site - PurpleAir. Not government official, but there are significantly more sensors that are higher resolution and generally more accurate.

    You should wear a respirator for an AQI of about 150 or above.


    What is PM2.5?

    PM2.5 refers to fine dust particles less than 2.5 microns/micrometers in diameter - these are the particles that come from heavy pollution (see: China) and wildfires (see: California). In short, they damage your respiratory systems like no tomorrow (depending on concentration and duration of exposure) for both short term (asthma, heart attacks) and long term (respiratory disease risk increase). Source. Source 2.

    These particles are microscopic and cannot be seen, which means the best way you should check if you need to protect from it is to check an official AQI source, NOT simply check if it's smog/smokey outside. (FYI context - the average virus is 0.3 microns in size.)


    What are other major risks to be aware of?



    Running water may suddenly stop. Water utilities are vulnerable to both power outages and wildfires - lack of power to run pump equipment, and water redistribution to firefighting efforts will cause water outages.

    EBMUD (East Bay Municipality Utility District) website.


    Prepare - Have 1 gallon of water per person, per day, for 2 weeks of self reliance. If you don't have that much storage, fill as many bottles as you can. Then buy water storage containers such as Aquatainers (cheap, larger capacity) or jerry-can style water containers (more durable, better leak-proof, and smaller capacity + handle design = easier to lift and move to your car. Water is HEAVY.).



    Credit card readers and ATMs may not work, and stores will begin to only accept cash. In addition to power outages, network outages will disable the verification process credit cards - so even if you have power, credit card readers will not work.


    Prepare - Have a backup reserve of physical cash on hand for at LEAST 2 weeks worth of expenses. Smaller bills are better.



    Wi-Fi and power outages are not directly correlated to each other.

    If there is internet coming to your building, but your building has no power, you can still use your Wi-Fi network if you can run your modem/router on backup power somehow.

    If the ISP network center, which sends the internet to your building, is experiencing power outage issues, then you will have Wi-Fi outages, even if your building has power.


    Source for most of the respirator info - very long but thorough.


    If there's more info to add or correct, feel free to comment and I'll edit this. Hope this helps everyone - stay safe out there.

u/[deleted] · 17 pointsr/Outdoors

/u/fetch04 is right. You are going to want to learn from youtube and practice before you show your son.

-Skills you will want to acquire:

u/mudclub · 16 pointsr/BurningMan

It's totally doable but you're going to have to work your ass off to prepare.

First things first: Find a ticket. Obviously.

Don't freak out about finding a camp. You don't need one to thrive out there. If you find a good one, that's fantastic, but really, don't stress. Your neighbours will be super great no matter where you wind up, and they'll help you out with anything you need. Also, odds are good that if you don't find a camp before you get out there, you stand a good chance of being invited to move in with one in pretty short order.

How are you getting there? You already have transport arranged? Is that how I'm reading that? If so, how much room is there in the vehicle for your gear?

Do you have any camping gear? A tent (teeny is fine - you won't be spending much time in it) is a must unless (and this can and is totally done out there) you want to risk hopping from tent to tent with random folks you meet out there. On that note, take condoms. Don't trust the other person to be safe/prepared/sober enough to think it through/etc.

The below assumptions are based on you going solo:

The mandatory packing list (off the top of my head - I'm sure I'm going to miss some bits) to survive:


Water (minimum 1 gallon/day for drinking. These things are great: and run $8-$10 at your local army surplus store) Also, canteens/bottles to carry water around with you. It super sucks a: to run out of water far from home, and b: to haul around a 5-gallon bladder of water. Comical to everyone around you, sucky for you.

Food. Particularly because you're doing this last-minute, I recommend canned food (don't forget a can opened :D ) - I'm a huge fan of spaghetti-o's and fruit cup type things - single-serving/meal-sized. Tins of chicken and some crackers are a good plan if you're desperate for protein, but so are big bags of jerky. Anything non-perishable. Also quick and slow energy snacky things like trail mix/nuts/etc. Don't bring chocolate or anything else that will melt. Oranges will happily survive out there, however. Note that your appetite will probably be greatly diminished. Don't try to do anything super fancy.

Loose-fitting light-colored clothing. A hat/shade thing. Goggles (dust storms). A dust mask/bandanna/related, again for the dust storms.

Lights - a flashlight (ideally super light that can be thrown around your neck on a string) and some form of illumination for your person so art cars will see you and not run your ass over.

A cup.

Everything else is convenience/luxury.

Very nice to have:

A <$100 playa bike with a couple of blinky lights for visibility.

A shade structure. Don't panic on this one. Everyone around you will have shade, and everyone's always willing to share.

Take a couple of bottles of booze to share with the neighbours. That's always appreciated and a great icebreaker. Note: ice is available for sale out there; don't try to bring your own :D

I'll think of more later, but in the meantime, read these:

Oh yeah, and if you're soloing, finding a place to camp is daunting. Here's how it works: After queueing to gate, handing over the ticket, getting the car searched, etc, you will be molested by your very own greeter. Greeters are awesome. If you have a cold beer in the car with you, give it to your greeter. Give your greeter a big hug :D

After greeting, you'll drive (SLOW DOWN!) toward the outer rim of the city (back, center) and you'll run into a fork in the road. Choose a path. I plan to choose left. Drive along a couple of long blocks until you decide it's the right time to turn into the city proper. Do so. (SLOW DOWN!) Keep going. Turn left or right wherever feels right. Try to do it at an intersection, however. Amble about a bit more. Turn again. Go see what up that street over there. Eventually, you'll find a spot that seems right to you. Pull in, park, get out of the car, look around, panic a little, and start setting up your camp right on the edge of the street Follow the lead of everyone around you. Secret: a lone female will probably get extra offers of help from everyone nearby. Use it. Make friends. Dish out some of the aforementioned booze you brought along.

Once you're settled enough to feel like you have a place to sleep later on: Depending on the time of day, strap on some lights, and strike off down your street toward the port-a-potties. You MUST learn where they are. pre-dawn bathroom trips super suck when you don't know where the bathrooms are. Then go back to your camp because it'll be farther away than you thought. Get a sense of what's around you. MAKE A BIG NOTE OF YOUR STREET AND TIME. Then go back to the porta potty intersection (that's your first landmark) and head toward the Man. You'll be able to see him.

Once you get to esplanade/open playa, walk out 100 yards or so, turn around, and figure out where you just came from. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. THIS IS HOW YOU GET HOME LATER. From there, fuck off and have a great time.

And don't lock your keys in the car. Srsly.

u/Bobbafettlives1983 · 15 pointsr/preppers

Sawyer Products SP128 Mini Water Filtration System, Single, Blue

I have an in-line attachment for hydration pack.

There’s a little pump too.

Water Purifier Pump with Replaceable Carbon 0.01 Micron Water Filter, 4 Filter Stages, Portable Outdoor Emergency and Survival Gear - Camping, Hiking, Backpacking

u/edheler · 15 pointsr/preppers

Drop the Life Straw and use a Sawyer Mini.

u/zerostyle · 14 pointsr/Ultralight

Posted this in the Nov 19th chat just yesterday, but figured it's worth reposting here since that thread closed almost immediately after I posted:

  1. Old navy has fleece grid hoodies for $24 on sale. 92% polyester 8% elastic
    In-store picture of the green: If you're crafty, you can also buy Old Navy/Gap giftcards for about 20% off to further reduce the price.

  2. Old navy also has some travel/hiking pants ($27) that are 100% polyester that could be a cheap option:

  3. Sawyer squeeze original is on sale at Amazon for $20 (normally $30). Lowest price camelcamelcamel has listed.

u/Holy_BatLogic · 14 pointsr/onebagging
  1. Huarache sandals. Runners and shower shoes and passable with a dress, all in one lightweight and compact package. Add wool toe socks in cold weather for an extremely fashionable 4-season look.
  2. Evernew 2L Water Carry and Sawyer Squeeze filter. Enough storage capacity for most backpacking trips, and surprisingly durable and effective for 124g combined.
  3. Vargo Titanium BOT 700 + neoprene cozy. Useful as a pot, water bottle, travel mug, or small item storage. It's nice when my backpacking gear isn't just dead weight.
  4. Montbell Breeze Dry-Tec Sleeping Bag Cover. It's a basic waterproof-breathable bivy that actually performs, and allows me to have a full summer sleep system (bivy, quilt, air mattress) in a tiny package that weighs only 1.46lbs.
  5. Aeropress + Porlex Mini grinder. Good coffee is worth it.
  6. This hair brush/comb that came in a business class care package. Only 12 grams! I continue to be smitten by it.
  7. Silk dress shirt. Lightweight classiness that doesn't get wrinkled.
  8. Prana Halle Pants. Heavy, but I feel like I can do anything in these pants.
  9. Peak Design Everyday Sling. Fits my mirrorless camera set-up and a Surface Pro in a decently small package.
  10. Penny board. Great for cruising around town when you don't want to deal with a bike.
u/Landoperk · 13 pointsr/backpacking

Sawyer Mini water filter. $20 Arguably the best lightweight backpacking filter available.
Also, the Leatherman Squirt is on my backpacking wishlist this year.

u/TheCaconym · 13 pointsr/collapse

Instead of the lifestraw, I would suggest one of the sawyer filters.

u/Teerlys · 12 pointsr/preppers

I wrote this up earlier today for someone who wanted to start getting prepped on ~$75/Month but also wanted to not have to cook the foods. I did include some long term storage as the first step anyway because it's so cheap and easy, but so far as consumables go, this is a good start for you.


A lot of this is a shelf life and storage space issue. If you have plenty of room for storage, I'd start like this:

  • Month 1: This doesn't meet your doesn't-need-to-be-cooked guideline, but it's a really solid start to bulk up on available calories and requires minimal cash and effort, so it's going in anyway. Ignore it if it's not for you.

    Buy two 50lb bags of white rice from a place like Costco or Sam's Club. Find 3 food safe 5 gallon buckets with lids. Get Mylar Bags and O2 Absorbers. Then hit Youtube for instructions on what to do with them. If the Mylar bags bit will hold you back from doing this, then skip them and just clean the buckets then dump rice in them straight. Seal, date, set aside. That's 160,000 calories in month 1. Given normal pantry supplies that stretches things out quite a ways. Plan on rotating out at 7ish years if put straight into the bucket and 20 years if you use the Mylar. Realistically, with Mylar, white rice may be good for much longer than 20 years (most people say 30, but for the minimal investment I'd rotate earlier to be safe).

  • Month 2:

    Grab a Water Bob (not right now though, hurricane season has prices high and stocks low for them). Also, a Sawyer Water Filter or two. That gives you an opportunity to grab an extra hundred gallons of water in your bathtub initially given enough warning, and some water purification options later on.

  • Month 3:

    Assuming you have storage capacity, start looking at #10 cans of food. Those are the cans that are around a foot tall and very wide. Look for things that you would eat and would be usuable in your daily lives, but also ones that would be calorie dense. For example, refried beans, nacho cheese, baked beans, white potatoes, chick peas, chili with beans, etc. Those are things you can use in recipes at home, but can pick them up and store them for a couple of years first. Getting them in the larger can is a better return on investment/dollar than buying smaller ones.

  • Month 4: This is probably more what you were looking for.

    If your pantry isn't topped up with the things your family normally eats, drop that money to get a little deeper on those things. Velveeta cheese, crackers, cans of soup, noodles, peanut butter/jelly, canned vegetables/fruit, pasta/sauce, salsa, dried/canned beans, seasonings, canned meat, canned chili, etc. Date them and make sure to work through the oldest first. Having the normal foods you eat in bulk will likely end up being what gets you through most things (like the current hurricane season, job loss, winter blizzard, etc). Spending on these things can be used to fill out whatever is left of your budget when it gets partially used up on other things. I'd also maybe consider having some flats of bottled water at home as well. I usually keep 4-7 Costco sized ones on hand for my SO and I.

  • Month 5:

    Start looking at longer term bulk water storage. I like 5 gallon stackable water cubes as they're easier to move and use and you buy them as you have a little extra cash here and there, but if you want to bump the budget up a bit for a month and your wife won't look at you like you're crazy, a 55 gallon barrel is a better price per gallon than the individual cubes. Sometimes there's just no replacing having your own clean water source ready to go. Barring all of that, if your family will use them just grab a bunch of flats of bottled water and rotate them. Stacked high they don't take up a ton of floor space.

  • Month 6 and Beyond:

    At this point you're pretty well set initially for both water and food. Keep the pantry stocked and rotating. Add on for long term stored water as you see fit and maybe invest in something like a Big Berkey if you really want to drop some money into it. At that point I'd probably begin considering longer term food storage. More rice, add in some dry beans (roughly 5 year shelf life in Mylar/Buckets), and if you're feeling really into it you can get unground wheat and that will last 30 years or better in Mylar/Buckets. You'll just need to have a hand crank grinder or two to use it.


    I get wanting ready to eat foods, and that's pretty easy to do and a great place to start, but as one last recommendation... grab yourself a Propane Burner and a high pressure hose for it so that you can use regular propane tanks. You may be able to eat cold soup out of the can, but it's a lot more comforting when it's warm, and you can pretty easily have the ability to add more of your foods into your diet (like spaghetti or mac and cheese) when you can still have a burner to work with.
u/horthianflorff · 11 pointsr/washingtondc

This seems like a good place for a PSA:

Emergencies typically require one of two responses:

SHELTER-IN-PLACE (snowstorm, blackout, earthquake)

  • Generally, speaking you should have enough supplies to shelter in place for at least 3 days although other sources will say 14 days. That means clean water, food, and means to keep warm and dry if the power goes out or if there is flooding. Check out some of the FEMA resources others have posted.

    FLEE (fire, tsunami, attack)

  • As far as a "bug-out" bag, these should be thought of as a means to keep you supplied and alive while traveling away from danger (not as a means of long term survival).

    When I assembled my kits, one of the most helpful pieces of advice I got was that "a kit is useless if you can't access it". For me, I am 90% of the time either at home or near my car so it makes sense to have a bug-out bag in both places. If SHTF while I'm at work or on the road, my kit at home is not going to do me any good.

    Emergency preparedness goes beyond "did I buy the right things?" and has much more to do with the practical realities of emergencies. A good example someone else pointed out: having a giant water reservoir is great but won't do you any good if your water gets cut off before you can fill it. Similarly, having a car is great but won't do you any good if the roads are too clogged to drive. Solution? Make your bug-out bag light enough to carry comfortably and take the Heel-Toe Express out of town.
u/notsoeasyrider · 11 pointsr/Survival

Take a look at the Sawyer Squeeze good for 1 million gallons with cleaning. I use it for backpacking. I work in outdoor retail and I will say that weve been having people report problems, including myself, with the O ring coming unseated and leaking dirty water, sometimes into the clean water. I really like the system overall though.

u/Almostcomatose · 11 pointsr/Ultralight
u/candiedwhiskey · 11 pointsr/VEDC

I don't understand why y'all keep going for Lifestraws. Do you intend to have a cup with you, or to lay on the ground to have a drink? A Sawyer setup is more portable since you can fill a pouch with water and keep going. Bonus: it costs the same or a fistful of dollars more than a Lifestraw.

u/pointblankjustice · 10 pointsr/bugout

There is a lot wrong with this list, so I'm just going to work down it one by one with my thoughts on the matter.

USB flameless lighter? Why? That is going to be unreliable, at best. Throw a few BIC lighters and some stormproof matches in there and be done with it. IF you want to be fancy, get something built to be rugged, that will stand up to use in the field:

Speaking of, I didn't see any sort of firestarting material. Warmth is going to be important, and you need as few steps as possible between you and fire. Get some quality firestarters. I am trying to keep all my links relevant from, so some of the brands I'm most familiar with aren't there. But these work well (though there are options from Wetfire and other brands that take up less space):

What is with the mall-ninja "tactical" hatchet? That is a lot of weight and not a lot of utility. You'd be better served with a reliable and lightweight folding saw, and a good full-tang fixed-blade knife. Something like a 7 inch Corona saw:

If you insist on carrying a hatchet (and their function in a bugout situation is debatable, especially for the weight) get something quality like an Estwing:

Nothing wrong with duct tape, but you'd do well to wrap just maybe 3-4 meters of it around a small core (like from doggy waste bags, or even just around itself).

The self-crank radio/flashlight/phone charger is shit. You also don't need four lights, especially if all of them are crap. Buy one good flashlight, and maybe one good headlamp.

A flashlight like a Nitecore P12 or something that runs on an 18650 and offers long runtime would be ideal. If you buy a diffuser cap for it, you can replace the lantern. Pick up some spare, high quality 18650 cells, as well. The P12 has SOS and beacon modes, which will run for days at a time, in addition to a nice throw and excellent brightness on Medium and High.

As for headlamps, those don't need to be super bright. You want something with enough brightness and floodiness to work around camp. But ideally you also want a red-light or low-light mode for night time, when you don't need to destroy your night vision just because you need to take a piss or something.

The powerbank thing in the crank radio is crap, only 1000mah. Not enough to charge most modern smart phones even 25%. Figure that of that 1000mah, ~25% will be lost just due to inefficiency in the charging process. Get a 10,000mah or bigger high quality battery, with 2.1A ports, and be done with it:

Combine the money you'd spend on the shitty folding knife and the shitty Gerber multitool, and buy a proper multi-tool. You don't need two folding knives.

The Leatherman Wingman is a good value, though I prefer a nicer quality one like the Charge TTi, but at four times the price it may not be worth it just for an S30V blade.

Ditch the camp toilet paper, that stuff is like wiping your ass with cardboard. Get some biodegradable camp wipes from an outdoor store. You can now use these to clean your ass, and they also are useful for wiping your hands, or taking whore baths.

Same with the camp soap. Are you bugging out or camping for a week? Nothing you are going to do in a bugout situation is going to necessitate body soap. Toothbrush, floss, deodorant.

Ditch the giant first aid kit full of crap you don't need. Those things are heavy and 80 of the 85 pieces are just different sized bitch stickers. Build your own first aid kit tailored around the likely injuries you would face: sprains, cuts, burns. Maybe throw some Quik Clot Z-pack gauze or a tourniquet (CAT or similar) in there for larger trauma, if that is a concern to you. Limit the bitch stickers to 5-10. All gauze, tape, trauma pads, alcohol wipes, tincture of iodine, moleskin for blisters, tweezers, surgical shears, gloves, maybe burn cream. Small containers of medications you might need: aspirin, antihistamines like Diphenhydramine, anti-diarrheals, etc.

That survival paracord bracelet thing is garbage. You already have 100ft of paracord in your list (which you could probably cut down to 50ft). You don't need some shitty firestarter, whistle, and compass thing. Buy a real lensatic sighting compass. Not going to do you much good without a map and the ability to understand it, anyway.

You have both a cookset AND a mug/pot. This is extra redundant and not needed in a bugout situation. Stick to food you don't have to prepare. Caloric density is your friend. Jerky, EPIC bars, Clif bars, etc.

If you need to boil water, use a single-wall metal canteen (NOT a thermos). Remove the plastic lid, fill with water, set in your fire. Widemouth canteens like those by Klean Kanteen are multi-purpose (multipurpose is your friend). You can sterilize water, you can cook and eat food out of it (because of the large opening), and you can fill with hot water, wrap in a sock, and warm your sleep system.

You don't need a can opener if you have a good multitool.

Lifestraws suck ass. They only work as a straw, and I am going to guess you don't want to get your water by drinking out of puddles exclusively. Get a Sawyer Squeeze mini filter. This can be used in-line with a hydration bladder, can be used like a Lifestraw, or can be used to filter an fill your water storage containers/bladder:

One seriously lacking area for you is your sleep system. A tarp and a space blanket are not going to keep you functionally warm. You might survive a night, but you won't be useful the next day.

At the BARE minimum, you should get a good, reflective, breathable bivvy sack, like this one from SOL, AND a sleeping pad. A bivvy will reflect heat back onto you, helping with heat lost through convection, but no sleeping bag will help with heat lost through conduction (you touching the cold ground). That is why a sleeping pad is mandatory. I have used the Escape bivvy and the Klymit pad linked here together, and both kept me comfortably warm to about 50 degrees F. Below that, I've had to augment with base layers or jackets, and that still sucked. If you are hoping to sleep in below freezing temperatures, you'll need a properly sorted ultralight sleeping bag.

Other recommendations of mine would be to take survival, medical and foraging guides and put them on a smartphone, along with a GPS mapping software and pre-downloaded offline topographical maps at 1:24k resolution of your main bugout areas and 1:100k resolution elsewhere. Something like Gaia GPS for iOS or Backcountry Navigator Pro for Android:

u/thegreatoutdoors44 · 10 pointsr/prepping

The Sawyer Mini is an great all around filter that can be purchased for $20. tablets aren't a bad idea either. Do not waste your money on a lifestraw though. the sawyers are good for like 10-100x the lifespan(in gallons of course)

u/shda5582 · 10 pointsr/preppers

Patently false, and shill for Lifestraw detected.

Sawyer (and the one I have, full disclosure):


Sawyer has a .1 micron, Lifestraw is a .2. Next time please post accurate information, thanks :)

edit: my mistake on this statement, I thought the personal stick model was being discussed and NOT the Family model which can filter out viruses. I retract against the Family model but maintain it still applies to the personal "straw" model since that one is .2.

u/blue_27 · 9 pointsr/bugout

Personally, I don't like hatchets. Too much room for error. I'd advise the Bahco.

I'd also consider the Sawyer for water filtration, as I think most water purification tablets taste nasty. If you are going to use them, bring some Crystal Light, or sweetened Kool-Aid or Gatorade to kill the taste.

Definitely need a map and compass, otherwise ... how do you know when you've reached your destination?

What are the Sharpies and the tampons for? How long is it supposed to sustain you? Are there any options to procure more food after the 4 days of rat bars run out?

I'd say that it needs work. 5/10? But these things really aren't quantifiable like that. Try it out for a weekend, and objectively analyze the deficiencies.


u/GoonCommaThe · 9 pointsr/Outdoors

Get a Sawyer Mini and some disinfectant tablets or drops (Aquamira is popular). Use the Mini when you need water right then, use the tablets when you can wait.

So say you have two water bottles and you come up to a stream and need water. Fill one with water from the source and put the disinfectants in there (making sure to bleed the threads), and put it in your pack. Then take the Mini and fill your other bottle using the squeeze bag OR you can get a bladder and fill it with water straight from the source and have the Mini connected between the bladder and the mouthpiece so it filters as you drink. By the time your bottle with the filtered water runs out, the other bottle of water will be purified. You can also fill both bottles with the filter when you stop if you're gonna take a rest, but you should always have drops or tablets as backups.

EDIT: Outdoor Gear Lab did a good review of water treatment options. It's very comprehensive (as are all their reviews).

u/_CMYK_ · 9 pointsr/PacificCrestTrail

A bag is way more preferrable because the top can open and you can scoop water in that you need to filter. Like this:

u/THISISDJLOS · 8 pointsr/funny

Buy yourself a set of 'disposable flasks' and add whatever liquor you want. Now you have one of these things using any liquor of your choice!

u/sometimesineedhelp · 8 pointsr/TinyHouses

I lived in a little potting shed for a year, it was chilly, but fine. All you need is a 5 gallon bucket and one of these: and a 5 gallon water container that you fill up at the spigot every day or so a bowl and a sponge and you're set up for a make-shift sink/ sponge bath...

Haven't you ever been camping? If you are homeless and broke and someone is offering you a warm, dry place to sleep why are you wasting time freaking out about building a loft? That looks like about 300 sq feet of space there and you'll be able to set up a basic "camp kitchen" and sleeping area NO PROBLEM. Get a WARM sleeping bag and a mattress to insulate you from the floor because baseboard heat is going to be EXPENSIVE. If you can't shower at the gym or at a friend's place, get a solar shower and a big pot and heat water on a camp stove and fill the bag that way. You need a place to prepare food: camp stove/microwave/folding table/minimal cooking and eating utensils. A place to sleep: floor mat/warm sleeping bag a place to bathe: a friend's place or a camp shower setup. A place to toilet: fast food restaurants/a friend's house/a camp toilet setup. A place to store clothes: fold neatly on the floor/get some cheap shelves like this and that's it! Anything else is extra and unnecessary

u/GrumpyMonk5454 · 8 pointsr/preppers

Reliance Products Aqua-Tainer 7 Gallon Rigid Water Container

u/greenchicken13 · 8 pointsr/CampingGear

For water filtering, check out sawyer squeeze. They also have a mini version, but I'd say the squeeze is worth the extra money & weight for increased flow rate and less clogging.

The klymit static v sleeping pad is on massdrop right now.

The brs 3000t stove is often recommended a super light canister stove.

Or if your just boiling water and not actually cooking meals on your stove then a lot of redditors love their jet boils.

u/JerkStoreJ · 7 pointsr/Nationals
u/moss-fete · 7 pointsr/CampingandHiking

Whatever filter you end up going with, I would STRONGLY recommend keeping some iodine or similar tablets with you. (I use this brand.) Any filter can fail or get contaminated, and a small pack of purification tablets costs <$10, lasts four years unopened or one year opened, and weighs ~2oz, so there's very little reason to not carry some as a backup.

Do be aware that not every purification method gets every kind of contaminant - most purification tablets don't get Cryptosporidium, for example, so it's often a good idea to think about what's in the areas you plan to be hiking in. Crypto, for example, mostly comes off of farm animal runoff, so I don't worry about it when I'm in the mountains collecting water from snowmelt or springs with no farming upstream.

u/Greyswandir · 7 pointsr/TropicalWeather

Try going to your local camping/outdoor supply store. They often have large water containers to set up in your campsite. The ones I got are flexible plastic containers that fold up flat, but inflate like a giant water balloon into a cube shape when full.

Here’s an amazon link to one similar to the ones I have:

Reliance Products 5 Gallon Poly-Bagged Fold-A-Carrier Collapsible Water Carrier

u/LJ-Rubicon · 7 pointsr/cars

Unless it states that it's food grade, I personally wouldn't use it as drinking water.

Nothing wrong with plastic as long as it's BPA free, food grade

Example :

There's Jerry can versions of BPA free plastic, if you're wanting to stick with Jerry can style

u/cwcoleman · 7 pointsr/CampingGear

Sawyer Squeeze, $25, 3.2 oz

This is a popular filter for backpacking. It removes all bacteria (not viruses, but in Banff that should be okay). There are no chemicals or wait time - you simply push dirty water through the filter and out comes pure water.
You will scoop up water with the provided bag, screw it onto the filter, roll/squeeze, and either drink the water directly - or fill up your clean bottles/bladders for drinking/cooking later.

(the Sawyer Mini is also an option, for slightly less money/weight. I recommend this Squeeze because it requires less frequent cleaning and has a higher flow rate so filtering water is faster)

u/TheEyeofEOS · 7 pointsr/camping

Lifestraws are kind of pointless because there's no way to fill containers. Most of the hiking community including myself use one of these:

Sawyer Squeeze

Also, jesus dude... carry an air pump? How heavy is your backpack????????

u/companion_2_the_wind · 7 pointsr/daddit

No worries at all on the questions, i hope i can help.


>How much extra gear do you find yourself carrying for your little man?

Not all that much actually. Extra sleeping bag and pad, children's versions of all the normal first aid meds i carry, a little extra food, his blanket that he sleeps with, and a couple of books for bed-time stories.

>What are you guys doing for water?

Sawyer Squeeze water filter. That thing has been great. A side note that will probably not apply to you when taking a small child out: if you are going to be out in below freezing temps take special care not to let your filter freeze. When the water freezes and expands it will break the ceramic filter media and while water will still flow through it it will not necessarily be safe to drink.

> How did you prep him for the long days and potentially scary nights?

We've been on day hikes of varying lengths before and the nice thing about backpacking is its kind of self-limiting; you go as far in a day as your least capable team member then stop and set up camp. As far as scary nights i've found, for my son anyways, that as long as i'm relaxed and comfortable he will be too so it really wasn't an issue.

> What expectations do you have for your pace?

This first trip we did about 5 miles with no complaints at all. I'm planning a trip this fall and am expecting that we can make 10 miles a day. Again, though, if we get out there and find that this is too much we will just stop at the nearest site and set up camp rather than pushing on to the shelter.

> What do you expect your son to carry?

This first trip he was almost 6 years old and all he carried in his pack was his water bladder, a change of clothes, his toy binoculars, and his blanket. Probably came out to 2 or 3 pounds. Later this fall i'm hoping i can bring that up a little bit and let him carry some of the food. His little coleman backpack is very small and with as quickly as he's growing i'm not really ready to buy him a nice pack yet that will only last him a year or two.


Hopefully we'll see you and yours out there in a few years; happy trails!

u/haroldthehobo · 7 pointsr/Ultralight

For 29$, you could get a Sawyer Squeeze water filter and save ~13oz

For ~150$ you could get a Hammock Gear Burrow Econ 30 to replace your sleeping bag and save ~24oz. A lot of people recommend the wide quilts, as Hammock Gear standards are designed for hammock sleeping.

A lot of people here will recommend not bringing a second pair of clothes. Just hike in the same clothes every day. Could save ~25oz.

If you install Gaia GPS on your phone, you could drop the delorme and save ~7oz. Not sure if its an InReach that you're using to keep in touch with people when you don't have service. Another personal call.

*Edit: Fixed weight savings for quilt.

u/InvalidUserAccount · 7 pointsr/preppers

Why would you not just buy the Sawyer Mini for $18.97 on Amazon?

Sawyer Products SP128 Mini Water Filtration System

u/resamay · 7 pointsr/shutupandtakemymoney

What do you think of the It has a 0.1 Micron Filter. I believe that still won't remove Viruses in water though. And do you know what are the chances of North American Streams, or Lakes etc containing viruses in the water?

u/atetuna · 7 pointsr/Survival

$19.99 with shipping on Woot for 1,000 liters of filtering capacity or $19.06 with shipping on Amazon, which is strange because Woot is owned by Amazon.

Or you can get a Sawyer Mini for $19.97 with shipping for 100,000 gallons (378,541 liters) of filtering capacity, while filtering at 0.1 microns instead of 0.2 microns for the Lifestraw. It comes with a straw so you can use it the same way as the Lifestraw, plus has the greater flexibility of being able to be used with a hydration bladder or set up as a gravity filter systems, and also comes with a small water pouch.

u/GunaSoup · 7 pointsr/gadgets

Change the color to from the special edition black to blue or anything else and set the quantity to 1 and it comes out to around $20.

u/Monskiactual · 7 pointsr/CampingGear I use this one in the desert. the push is great for wet sand, and sometimes in the desert thats all you get. Its bigger and heavy. But this thing is not going to let me down..

i also use towel, t shirt or sock as pre filter. sock filled with wet sand works well enough.. . You can find wet sand under many many desert cactus and other plants.. I have used this method and got usable amounts of water. You fill a sock with wit sand and then you wring it down and drip it into the filter.. It takes about 20 loads of sand in the sock but, you can get a gallon in about hour or so..

I highly recommend running the water through a t shirt or sock at all times. desert Dust is hard and fine. It tends to do a number on seals.

u/jrice138 · 7 pointsr/PacificCrestTrail

Sawyer Products SP150 Coupling for Water Filtration Cleaning

I carried one of these. I only ever cleaned my sawyer in town so I’d just fill up my platypus and attach the sawyer to it with the coupler. But, also as someone said the plungers are practically in every hiker box.

u/SpringAquifer · 6 pointsr/travel

I've been researching this same issue. I ended up going with a Steripen, instead.

I feel like filters just don't do the job as well for a similar price. Some less expensive ones might be just as effective, but they might be a little unwieldy, like this one. Or you'll have something like this, which is comparable in price to a good Steripen, but it's still bulkier, has a lot of moving parts, and isn't particularly durable. I'd probably only be comfortable with a filter if I went with something like this, which is still, admittedly, a little bulky -- and a hell of a lot more expensive.

Of course, Steripens have their own problems. They require batteries -- a fully charged rechargeable battery might get you 40 uses for most of the popular Steripen models, while a single-use lithium set might get you a hundred uses.

Finally, don't forget that big bottles of water in India run about Rs. 15 each. (You can go for the off brands, which might run as low as Rs. 7. Some NRIs warned me against drinking the off brands, but I've never had a problem with them.) To combat the mountains of plastic, some places sell potable water for you to refill your bottles with, but these are few and far between. (The only one I've seen marketed to backpackers was in Leh, which is a mecca for hippies.)

Of course, there are tablets, but those get disgusting after a while.

u/TheAethereal · 6 pointsr/collapse

I don't think there is reason to believe collapse is "imminent", but it does seem inevitable. I came to that conclusion after the congressional battle over the debt limit. If it was so difficult to accomplish almost nothing, then the actual changes that would be needed are just impossible.

Do you have a water source nearby, like a river? If so, you may be better off with just a good water filter, something like this. Maybe you can get one for your birthday or something under the guise of use for camping and such. Then just get some ziplock bags or something, and then you can go and create your own water supply whenever you need.

So in short, no, don't hide your preparations. Do it in plain sight but come up with an alternate reason.

u/etruscan · 6 pointsr/backpacking

I was given a Katadyn Hiker filter a while back but I had a lot of problems with it. I'm sure Katadyn makes some good products, and I've had my eye on their Pocket Filter for a while, but instead I replaced the Hiker with the MSR MiniWorks, which is more in line with what you want to spend. The MSR filter has been fantastic. It's tough, fairly lightweight and compact for the capacity, and it's easy to clean the ceramic filter (even in the back country) with a small scrubby pad when it starts getting clogged. It's easy to use (so anyone on the trip can feel comfortable gathering water), fits right onto a nalgene bottle (no extra tubes), and fills a bottle in about 60 seconds.

u/Rubcionnnnn · 6 pointsr/motocamping

I do a couple of one or two night adventures across california a few times a year. From my experiences, here are some of the most handy things in my opinion. Note; I have an absured amount of storage on my F650GS Dakar, so some of this stuff is not for light packers:

One of those battery powered string of led lights, for easy dim lighting where you can't have a campfire. eg, something like [this](

Biodegradable body wipes, for when you reek like B.O. from days of sleeping in the dirt and you have to interact with civilized people.

Water purification tablets, in case you break down somewhere in the middle of bumfuck nowhere and you need water. The bottles are tiny so they don't take up much space.

A chair because 24/7 of either sitting upright on a bike or laying on hard dirt starts to hurt like hell.

Some good undies with a junk pouch, because you are going to be sitting for hours and everything will start to get mashed up and uncomfortable. Best investment I've made, IMO.

u/AnticitizenPrime · 6 pointsr/news

If you're staying for some reason:

Go to the camping/outdoor isle of your local Walmart and buy a Sawyer Squeeze water filter. (Amazon link) I have one and use for backpacking all the time.

Also buy a bottle of Smartwater if they're still around. They hold 1 liter and the Sawyer filter is the same threading as the Smartwater bottle, so if you had too, you could fill up the Smartwater bottle with flood water, screw the filter on the end of the bottle, and drink directly from it.

NOTE: This is for filtering FRESHWATER/RAINWATER, not sea water! No water filter will remove salt from water, but it WILL remove bacteria/viruses and other junk. You will have to have a freshwater source (inland flood waters, collected water from rainfall, etc). The water in the canals down there is brackish (mix of salt and freshwater, I used to live there for 5 years).

And don't forget to fill your bathtub with water before it hits... and know that you can get water from your water heater, too. There's usually a drain valve at the bottom.

u/irregular_shed · 6 pointsr/backpacking

Is there a particular reason that you want a filter with a pump in it? After using several different water pumps (MSR Miniworks, MSR Sweetwater, a couple Katadyn filters, etc.), and several kinds of tablets (PolarPure, MicroPur, Portable Aqua), I would highly recommend the Sawyer Squeeze style water filters.

  • You can find them for around $40
  • It's faster than any mechanical pump I've used
  • The entire system costs less than a replacement cartridge for one of the pump-style filters
  • The system weighs practically nothing
  • If you're lazy (I know I am), you can just fill it up with water, plug the hose of your Camelbak into the output port of the filter, and hang the bag in a tree. Come back 5 minutes later, and you have two quarts of clean water.

    The only thing that I dislike: you can't allow the filter cartridge to freeze. If you do, it has to be replaced. The ceramic and fiberglass cartridges for the Miniworks and Sweetwater pumps didn't have this restriction.

    Some people say that they have problems with the Sawyer bags leaking, but I haven't had this problem yet. On the other hand, I never squeeze my bag - I always let gravity do my work for me. Dehydration is a major safety issue in the backcountry, so I always carry a backup bag and MicroPur tablets, just to be safe. You can also use your stove to boil water in a pinch.

    Normally I don't get really excited about particular pieces of my outdoor gear, but buying my squeeze filter really changed the way that I backpack. It used to be that producing a liter of fresh water was such a pain that I didn't want to let a single drop go to waste. Now I'm much more relaxed with my water use - I feel like I've got more time to enjoy my trip rather than stand on a slippery rock hunched over a stream.
u/sempersexi · 6 pointsr/Ultralight

I purchased:

u/Cop10-8 · 6 pointsr/CampingandHiking

Check out the Sawyer Squeeze. I had a lifestraw at first, but found the Sawyer Squeeze to be infinitely more useful. You can attach it to smartwater bottles and filter as you go. It is better in both day to day use and emergencies.

u/knuteknuteson · 6 pointsr/collapse

You only need to filter drinking and cooking water which comes to about 2L/p/d.

For personal hiking/camping use, I have something like this that'll last most of a lifetime:

u/geofox784 · 6 pointsr/CampingandHiking

Including shipping its the same price as on amazon:

u/asunderco · 6 pointsr/CampingGear

For trail hiking the LifeStraw didn't meet my expectations or my needs. Ever try hiking a 14er in Colorado while one hand hold your Nalgene of "dirty" water and the other is holding a straw with your trekking poles tucked under your arms? For the same price the Sawyer Mini beats the life straw hands down. The Sawyer is even on sale right now. Though it was 19.99 yesterday...

u/ConceptualTrap · 6 pointsr/pics

Only time that I ever buy bottled water is when I go camping. A 6 day trip requires a single gallon. When it's empty I just refill it with one of these:

Meanwhile, my buddy consistently brings along a 24 pack of water, it weighs a goddamn ton, and now you have 24 empty plastic containers to pack up when you leave. Yeah, I'll save that space for beer, tyvm.

u/dfBishop · 6 pointsr/CampingGear

Looks like a good set up!

If it's going to be cold, you could probably leave the sandals at home. Also, I can personally recommend replacing those Sawyer bags with the CNOC Vecto bag:

Practice with it at home, it can be finicky.

Have fun! Be sure to post pictures when you get back!

u/adamlarue · 5 pointsr/LosAngeles

I would also recommend water treatment tablets. The water supply could be undrinkable for days, and you may run out of potable water supply.

Pet food, extra set of shoes/sneakers, and spare eyeglasses.

Additionally, I keep a kit in my car, and one in my home.

u/Gagewhylds · 5 pointsr/VEDC

I keep one of these in my car. It says BPA free on it. I’ll change out the water once or twice a year though.

u/HeyRememberThatTime · 5 pointsr/Ultralight

The Sawyer Squeeze is the reason the Mini is called the Mini -- it's a larger version of the same filtering concept. I use a Mini with absolutely no complaints when I'm out by myself or one other person. If I'm out with more than that I use an older Sawyer 3-Way in a homemade gravity rig so I can just leave it run itself.

Honestly, I can't think of one possible scenario where I'd rather have a LifeStraw than a Sawyer. Also, that Massdrop is only a two bucks cheaper ($18 shipped) if you've already got Amazon Prime, making it barely worth considering.

u/benh509 · 5 pointsr/Ultralight

Nope, read it correct. The mouth piece has a quick disconnect so you can pop it off. Sawyer sells a kit to make a normal hose have this function so you could do it with any reservoir. But you can take the one pice out the will go into the end of the drinking tube and hook it up to the outlet of your Sawyer with a small piece of tubing. I was about to type out a detailed explanation but the Amazon page has it all in pictures. Or YouTube "Sawyer quick disconnect" and there are videos showing it.

u/Whispertron · 5 pointsr/de

Nimm eine erweiterte Erste Hilfe Ausrüstung mit und sorg' dafür, daß deine Reisebegleiter davon wissen und im Notfall dafür sorgen, daß die verwendet wird. Diese Seite hat eine gute Liste von dem, was man einpacken sollte. Besonders die Einmal-Spritzen, Kanülen und Disinfektionsmittel sind notwendig. Bei der Abreise kannst du alles nicht verwendete an jemanden Spenden, der dort wohnt.

Medikamente gegen Durchfall und Verstopfung kann ich auch empfehlen. Wasserfilter wie diesen oder diesen, und zusätzlich noch Wasserreinigungstabletten, sollten auch nicht fehlen.

DR Kongo hat die zweit-höchste Malaria Infektionsrate der Welt, also sollte Malariaprofylaxe und Insektenabwehr hoch in deiner Prioritätsliste sein. Kleidung sollte wenn's geht leicht sein aber die Arme und Beine bedecken. Das hilft sowohl beim Sonnenschutz als auch gegen Insekten. Es gibt mit Permithrin imprägnierte Kleidung die sehr empfohlen ist. Ansonsten gutes Insektenabwehrspray mitnehmen und ausgiebig verwenden.

u/YogiIan · 5 pointsr/camping

You can buy a Sawyer Mini SP128 for not much more and get .1 micron filtration. Clean sip doesn't even list its filter specs on its website, most likely because it doesn't compare to more reputable manufacturers. Just because it's "the world's smallest", doesn't necessarily make it a smart purchase.

u/Zooshooter · 5 pointsr/camping

Do not get a Lifestraw! Get a Sawyer mini filter instead. They're back-flushable (you can unclog them if they get clogged) and they're guaranteed for more gallons of water than a Lifestraw. The mini filter will also screw on to a lot of plastic drink bottles, like the 12-20oz bottles you can get from vending machines.

u/SomeTwelveYearOld · 5 pointsr/raleigh

As a back up, you can buy one of these pretty cheap:

Sawyer Products SP128 Mini Water Filtration System, Single, Blue

u/Sinjhin · 5 pointsr/Charlotte

Or just grab a couple sawyer filters for $20 a pop. Still good to have some backup bottled water I suppose and fill up the tub, but with a sawyer I can literally just go drink out of a puddle if I need to.


u/ib4student · 5 pointsr/EDC

| Lifestraw | Sawyer Mini
Membrane | 0.2 microns | 0.1 microns (2x better)
Capacity | 264 gallons | 100,000 gallons (378.8x better)
Bacteria | 6 LOG | 7 LOG (10x better)
Bacteria% | 99.9999% | 99.99999% (10x better)
Protozoa | 3 LOG | 6 LOG (1000x better)
Protozoa% | 99.9% | 99.9999% (1000x better)
Price | $19.89 | $19.41 or 4 for $67.51 ($16.88 each)

The mini is also smaller and comes with a 32 oz squeezable water pouch, 7" tube, syringe for cleaning (if it clogs)

>Attaches to included drinking pouch, standard disposable bottles (28 mm thread), hydration packs, or use the straw to drink directly from your water source

u/My_comments_count · 5 pointsr/Ultralight

Sawyer mini with water bottle
it's the best system in my opinion. However, the Sawyer squeeze might be better, but still use it with the water bottle.

u/launch201 · 5 pointsr/CampingGear

if you just want 1 - they are about 30 cents cheaper on amazon if you have prime, after paying for shipping on woot - otherwise this is a good deal!

u/Yeffug · 4 pointsr/backpacking

Well that can be a long list... here goes though:


Dehydrated food

Cooking utensils (I just bring a small pot/cup and a spork personally)


Sleeping bag

Tent (two pound, two person from Big 5)

550 paracord

2 tarps

Katadyn base camp filter

Sunshade for camping pad




Lighter & matches

Water purifying tablets

I'm sure I'm leaving a few things off, but those are several of the basics

u/aleafinwater · 4 pointsr/amazone

Did a ton of research for a camping trip last year. (assuming you mean hiking and camping, not just driving your car around)

For high-quality at a low price, my friends and I were completely satisfied by:

u/ashtree35 · 4 pointsr/ZeroWaste

I was just going to suggest this! Here is an example of what I had in mind, but any large water jug would probably work.

u/drunk_voltron · 4 pointsr/BuyItForLife

Most long-distance and wilderness hikers would recommend the sawyer squeeze. Make sure to get the full size on and not the mini. Should last several years at least with proper backflushing.

u/so_there_i_was · 4 pointsr/Bushcraft

Sawyer mini is the way to go for water filtering.

u/Prosapiens · 4 pointsr/EDC

Gorruck 34L GR2 Coyote Tan - a good bag, heavy, uncomfortable, probably give it to my grandchildren in like 50 years

Flip Flops - generic things

Bigblue 28W solar charger - very good, can charge my battery up during the day if i leave it in the sun which I've never really done honestly

Jakemy hardware tools - seamed useful? i've never needed this

Army glove shells - i thought i used these a lot and were indistructable but now that i think of it, i don't use them that often and are probably pretty cheaply made.

Sharpie, pen, all weather notebook - probably should switch over to a fisher space pen...

Straws - these are probably already broken.

Whistle - really really really loud

Fire-striker, matches, lighter - i'm not sure i have enough ways to start a fire

Fresnel lens - ok, now i have enough

LED flashlight - i used to go running in the middle of the night with this flashlight, its tiny

LED flashlight - this isn't the one i have but looks kinda similar? i don't remember where i got mine

Earbuds - generic cheap earbuds

Leatherman Surge - given to me by my wife for passing the bar. thanks wife!

First Aide kit - i put mine together from stuff i've stolen from friends houses whenever i go over and use the bathroom

playing cards - these look very similar to the ones i have, they are plastic so they won't get rained on

glasses/ sunglasses - i have really bad vision

personal hygiene kit - aahhhh dry shaving

Sawyer Mini / syringe, collapsible canteen (dirty), heavy duty straw - i've never used this

collapsible canteen (clean) - i've never used this either

sewing kit - i've used this a lot

ID tags - i guess if i get blown up they'll know my blood type?

garbage bag - for when my pockets are full

elastic bands - i use these when packing to keep rolled socks and things from falling apart

Salt - i have nooooo idea why i have this

cooking grate - i'm not going to hold meat over a fire with a stick like some sort of caveman

heavy duty ziplock bag - in case my mapcase breaks and other reasons

rip-patch - leftover from when i needed a pack because i bought a crummy cheap inflatable sleeping pad.

Army Fleece Beanie - i always keep this at the top of my pack

4 Bungie Cords - not the one i use but similar. to make a field-expedient shelter

Trowel - for disposal of biological wastes

Lensatic compass - because GPS should only be a backup

Pocketboy 130 folding saw - i have a bigger one for yardwork, this small one is really great

Tent stakes - for tent staking

Ravpower 26800 Battery - use this all the time can fast chage my stuff

Battery Battery holder, cables, wall charger - all fits togehter like glove!

Army Poncho - wear it, make a tent out of it etc

Microfiber towel - not the one i use but similar. i mainly use this for when the kids accidentally fall in a lake like they tend to do for some reason

Down Jacket - cheap chinese knockoff... i feel bad for not buying american

Wet weather top - not sure this is worth the space/weight

Wet Weather bottom - not sure if this is worth the weight/space

Silkweights - PJs! and warmth

Jungle Blanket - this is a lot better than the army's woobie. lighter and warmer

Gransfors Bruks Wildlife Hatchet - again, gift from wife. she wanted me to chop things and be more manly, generally. now i come home with parts of wildlife for her to cook

Map of New England - or, how i stopped worrying and love dismounted land navigation

PT belt - keeps me safe in all situations

Compression straps - i don't like lashing things to the outside but i guess i can if i wanted to

Fork and Spoon - stole these from the kitchen. i'll probably be replacing this soon with something titanium.


EDIT: i just priced it out: $1,585.08 total

u/Graybealz · 4 pointsr/CampingGear

Here is a great little stove. It's a Chinese whisperlight, but I've been using it quite a bit over the past 2 years and have no complaints whatsoever. Also super cheap, which gives you more money to play with.

The Sawyer mini squeeze is also a great item to have. You should have $20-25 left after these two items.

Here's a decent magnesium fire starter for cheap as well.

With these items, all essential/survival items, you should have about $15-20 to play with. Maybe some socks?

u/biggyww · 4 pointsr/CampingandHiking

It's probably fine, but if it concerns you at all, it's probably worth the $20 to just buy a [sawyer mini] ( You'll gain some peace of mind and save some weight off your back.

u/ryanmercer · 4 pointsr/preppers

> Is it true that water isn't something to worry about

Water is absolutely something to worry about. Keep a few gallons on hand to get you through a couple of days, then have something to filter water with. Sounds like you are a minor so I'd stick to something more affordable like one of these sawyer filters and then get you a few smart water bottles (the 1 liter ones) as the threading fits perfect on the filter.

u/ialtp · 4 pointsr/BuyItForLife

I'd recommend instead of that the Sawyer product line:

I use the Saywer Mini, personally:

It's excellently built, light, and filters a lot of water very fast (fast enough to drink easily, basically). I use it all the time with lower-quality tap when traveling. Everything that comes out of it tastes basically exactly the same (completely neutral). Couldn't recommend it enough; I've had it about 1 full year, and it shows no signs of slowing down.

u/l_mcpoyle · 3 pointsr/collapse

It's a little expensive but I got the Katadyn Pocket Filter with the carbon add-on & extra carbon (frequently bought together section). Figured if I'm ever in a bug-out predicament, I wouldn't want to be carrying a buncha bottles of water. It can filter 13,000 gallons...right from the source into your water bottle. I was able to stuff the carbon add-on in the pack that comes with the filter...I'd say total the pack is about a foot long and 4-5 inches wide. Weighs maybe a pound.

u/holganaut · 3 pointsr/camping

Uhh.. Since nobody else is helping, I will give it my best shot. On a normal day, the average reccomended amount of water per person will be 64 oz., or .5 gallons. This is a rough estimate for an average person. If you are larger, pack more. If you are smaller, pack less. Depending on the heat, you may end up sweating alot of the water out.

I would reccomend no less than .75 Gallons per person per day.

As far as containers go, something like this would probably be best. I think that stores like walmart have a similar option....

To purify lake water you have several options. There are a multitude of water filters that backpackers use to make drinking water safe. /r/ backpacking raves about this one in particular for its low price, easy use, and low weight. It should filter out bacteria and other nasty things in water.

Alternatively, water purification tablets can be bought to do the same thing. These will not filter out sediment though. They only kill bacteria.

Since this is car camping and the weight/size of gear is not as big of a concern, simply overpacking on water will do no harm. Just keep track of how much you drink as a gauge for next time!

u/yoda17 · 3 pointsr/science

I carry a backpacking waterfilter. You can hike across the US without carrying water with a bit of planning. Actually, most surface water in the US is safe to drink.

u/satellite11c · 3 pointsr/PKA
u/chastrength · 3 pointsr/Coachella

Oh man I got this. My number one hack that I brought that I have to recommend is a large water jug. My group and I used this for drinking water at the camp as well as washing hands and even washing our hair. I filled it up with that sweet Texas water and returned home with one gallon to spare. This is better than packing cases of water bottles because there is less trash and you can use the water for other things besides drinking. It may sound silly but I cannot recommend this enough.

Other things that came in handy that I recommend:

u/koduh · 3 pointsr/TeardropTrailers

> 1) What are the must have /favorite features in your trailers? From what I have seen options on the gallery are a bit divided. I want to make sure I consider all the options when I plan it out.

I thought I NEEDED to have a built in stove but looking back I'd much rather have a place to store/use a standard 2 burner propane stove.

Also I like the built in sink options in theory, but most are just too small to be worth it. I'd much rather have a space for a 5 gallon jug to sit on it's side with a closeable spout like this:

u/briangiles · 3 pointsr/ebola

Exactly! From the beginning of this I have said that it NEVER hurts to be ready for the worst. Where I live we get a lot of earth quakes and I am sure within my life we'll get a nasty one. Our building codes are VERY strict and I don't fear that my place will tip over, but the power grid in the US is VERY old and in need of repair badly.

We lost power out here two years ago over about 2 days and people were freaked out. What happens when something really bad happens and it's a week or two weeks with no power, no gas, the food starts dwindling and people are running around like crazy trying to get food to eat.

I'll have my MRE's not the best food in the world, but damn I won't starve to death. I think about prepping hardly ever and I need to get my self re situated and make sure I have everything back together again. I even made a list here for people who were new to prepping. My list is far from a complete list of things one would like to have, but it has the essentials.

My personal Kit:

Item| Cost | Unit
Water | $1.00 | 1 Gallon / person / day
DYI Meals Ready to Eat | $3.50 | Per Unit
Life Straw | $19.99 | 1
50 FT of Utility Rope | $11.49 | 1
Multitool - Leatherman | $27.00 | 1
Flashlight - Crank LED | $9.99 | 1
Potable Water Treatment Tablets | $5.99 | 1
Magnesium Fire Starter | $4.33 | 1
Trash Bag | $0.50 | 2
Vitamins | $15.27 | 1
Total | $99.56 |
_ | |
Added for EVD | |
Latex Gloves | $9.34 | 1
Option A| |
Reperator | $28.90 | 1
Replacement Filter | $8.90 | 1
Option B| |
N95 Mask| $14.79 | 10
| |
Total A| $47.14 |
Total B| $24.13 |
| |
Grand Total A| $146.70 |
Grand Total B| $123.69 |

The fact of the matter is that the subreddit for the most part seems to be under the illusion that if you don't live in West Africa you are 100% safe, which is a dangerous thought to have.

As /u/snorgsniffer said yesterday

>When confronted with dire circumstances beyond their control, humans predictably engage in one of the following behaviors:

> Denial
> Distraction
> * Drugs / Drink (altered state of consciousness)

>All of those things result in still another "D"... delay
It's clear that both the victims and potential responders are engaging in "D behaviors" at this time.

>My point? It is almost impossible to change someone's mind using logical argument when their conclusion is an irrational, emotional one. They just burrow deeper into their chosen coping behavior when forced to look even more closely at the thing which frightened them so badly in the first place.

>Though not directly news related, I think understanding the psychological underpinnings of the outbreak is important when interpreting the nuts & bolts side of it. This sub seems to me like a good place to see it discussed. There are some really bright people here.

A lot of people are giving voice to their coping mechanisms of denial to make themselves feel better. I don't think their attitude will change until the numbers reach upwards of 50,000 and the people start fleeing and spreading this crap all over the globe.

u/lilygrove · 3 pointsr/BurningMan

I brought one of those 5 gallon collapsible portable water containers

Fill it up, use it, comes back smaller right?
Nope- It easily slipped from closed to open and leaked all over the inside of our tent. Just what we needed after surviving set up in the rain early Monday morning. :(

u/krazygamerhead · 3 pointsr/festivals

Two of these water bladders. They can provide drinking water, wash your feet and general cleaning purposes.

Also fest season isn't over until November! Come to Live Oak, FL for Bear Creek, one of the funkiest get downs ever!

u/Limotinted · 3 pointsr/DaytonaBeach

I use 5 gallon collapsible containers, just fill them up before the storm and store until the next one so you're never running around looking for water.


Looks like you could still order today and have them Saturday if you have prime.

u/ChaosOnion · 3 pointsr/TropicalWeather

I would suggest getting a large, reusable water container. An insulated water cooler or normal cooler with a spout can be filled up in your tub. Then fill up your tub.

As another option, I have some of these for changing water for fish:

Reliance Products Aqua-Tainer 7 Gallon Rigid Water Container

We fill the tub so we can flush the toilet if the water goes out. Water is a lot cheaper filling from the spigot than buying from the store.

u/RounderKatt · 3 pointsr/BurningMan

I brought 3 of these for my own personal use for drinking, cooking, and swamp cooler. I used all but about 5 gallons

u/mvhsbball22 · 3 pointsr/Homebrewing

There are two common plastic containers used in the no-chill community. I use this one:

There's also one from USPlastics that is pretty common:

Both of these do not melt at or near boiling temps. They deform slightly, which is beneficial because you can squeeze out almost all of the air after pouring the wort in.

u/guysquatch · 3 pointsr/camping

Been using a couple of these for a few years now, way better than the soft collapsible ones, in my opinion:

Edit: If the water is warm due to temperature, just bring extra reusable bottles and keep some in the cooler.

u/arveng · 3 pointsr/raleigh

Buy a couple of these and fill them with tap water. They work great, I keep one in my car when I go on long road trips and/or hiking. No funky taste even after days in the sun.

u/eekozoid · 3 pointsr/Ultralight

Trowel: If you can't find a hundred rocks, sticks, and pieces of wood that can dig a hole for your deuce, you're not looking hard enough. I prefer flat rocks, myself.

Filter: I'm not a huge fan of tablets/drops, but I also solo primarily, so I don't want to have a 1lb+ filter system. My solution was to get a Sawyer PointOne Squeeze Water Filter System. It works like a charm, filters quickly, and serves as a backup bladder in case your primary water vessel is damaged. It functions in the same way as an inline filter. If you want to have a drink immediately, you just attach the filter to the dirty water bladder, and drink from the clean end. 3oz for the filter and the small bladder.

Water Bottle: The Nalgene is dead weight. If you're smart and careful, you can get away with a bottle and a backup bladder for less weight than the Nalgene, alone. I picked up a Smart Water bottle a while back, and have been using it ever since. Modern 'disposable' water bottles are so absurdly over-designed that they're strong enough to stand up to everyday use. (Especially those made by soda companies, as they usually design their bottles with enough toughness and wall thickness to withstand the pressure of carbonation.)

Toothbrush: Unless you've inherited Andre the Giant's hands, you don't need a full toothbrush handle. Cut that sucker in half! Then drill holes in it for more weight savings! Then brag to all of your friends about the amazing weight savings your toothbrush modification provides! (It's late, I'm tired and delirious. Sue me.)

Cookset: Depending on what sort of stuff you're cooking, you can get away with a lot less than what you've got. Now, if you're going gourmet, I can see having 2lbs of cookstuffs, but as a soloer who cooks mostly by re-hydration, my cookset weighs (and this is just an estimate) about 8oz, with fuel. My pot is a modified Heineken Keg Can, and my stove is from Minibulldesign. It's enough for packaged backpacking meals, ramen, pasta and sauce, soup, tea, coffee, oatmeal... Nothing too fancy, but good enough.

Tent Stakes: I can't see what you've got or how many, but I'll just throw out my personal preference in case it happens to be lighter than whatever you've got.

u/Drfiasco · 3 pointsr/AppalachianTrail

There are conversion kits available for the squeeze.

u/Christof3 · 3 pointsr/camping

I would go with a squeeze or gravity fed filter instead. They'll be lighter and usually cheaper than a pump filter, too. Most people prefer the Sawyer Squeeze or the Sawyer Mini.

u/az_climber · 3 pointsr/Ultralight

You can unscrew the sports cap part of the BeFree and fit the Sawyer adapter on it.

Also, the BeFree screws into Hydrapak Seekers

u/Lancet_Jade · 3 pointsr/Ultralight

I use a bladder because of the easy access, easy fill, and reusable aspect of the Hydrapak 3L. It comes with a weight penalty of 48g (150g Hydrapak 3L + hose vs. 102g Smartwater 1L [x3]). I'm not concerned with the durability of the bladder. I store it in the side pocket so I don't have to unpack it, and I can easily monitor water levels.

On a similar note, you can add an attachment to your bladder hose to quickly refill it without unpacking your pack as well.

Different strokes for different folks.

u/phirebug · 3 pointsr/camping

As others have mentioned, it will depend on what kind of camping he likes to do and what he already owns, but here are some of my favorite pieces of gear I've picked up over the years:
This little guy is a pretty good rechargeable lantern/flashlight with magnets so you can stick it to stuff and a usb output so you can charge other things with it.

I've had one of these for YEARS and I just lost it the other day. There was $200 worth of gear in the pannier that fell off my bike and I'm more pissed about that cup than the rest of the gear combined. It looks like they made it a little taller, which I do not like, but he may. There are several other brands that make something similar in both steel or titanium. It's not just a cup will slip perfectly over the bottom of a nalgene, you can cook directly on a stove or fire with it, and you can pair it with the smaller jetboil coffee press or the guts of a standard bodum press and turn it into a french press. It's the exact same diameter.
A Sawyer can be an AMAZING if you're going to be anywhere long enough to pack water in. The squeeze bag it comes with sucks, but it has standard bottle threads, so you can screw it into a 2-liter bottle with the bottom cut off and it turns it into a gravity filter. Just pour more river/lake water into the 2 liter every minute or so and it will keep pouring clean water into your bottles. Also, you notice the weird skinny part in the middle? It's exactly the width of duct tape. You can wrap several yards of it around there.
EDIT: forgot some words

u/parametrek · 3 pointsr/CampingandHiking

Replace the $70 Katadyn filter with a $20 Sawyer filter.

Replace the $60 Petzl with a $20 Wowtac A2.

> I am also looking for a set of hiking poles.

The $30 Monoprice CF poles are considered the best/lightest for the money. You really don't want heavy poles.

> Do I need any other cookware?

Are you planning to actually cook or are you eating trail mix the entire time?

u/arrbos · 3 pointsr/vancouver

Get a Sawyer filter over the lifestraw.

You don't have to suck water through, and it's rated for way more water.

u/innoutberger · 3 pointsr/Flagstaff

Forgot to mention above, I do have a water filter, and was planning on filtering on-the-go as I was camping. Does that change anything?

u/dasponge · 3 pointsr/hiking

Are you dead set on a Geigerrig filter? They seem awfully expensive for something that will only last 50-100 gallons.

I'd get a sawyer mini -

u/WhiskeyandKittens · 3 pointsr/Random_Acts_Of_Amazon

I'm going deep in to the woods. We are going to stay in awesome hammocks and we will be wrapped in fleece sleeping bags. We will also bring a water filtration system so we can drink from the spring rather than lugging water with us. After all, lugging a cooler or four full of beer and whiskey will be enough of a task for us.

I'm so excited that the weather is getting better that I have super duper camping on my mind. :)

u/AngeloPappas · 3 pointsr/preppers

For anyone thinking this is a good buy, please check out the Sawyer Mini. It may cost more, but the Lifestraw filters up to 1,000L. The Sawyer does 360,000L and also filters out more than the Lifestraw. The Sawyer also works with fittings and attachments for hydration bags meaning you can set it up to work as a gravity filter in addition to using it as a straw.

It's better than the the Lifestraw in every single way. I have used both and have no affiliation with either company.

u/hi_in_fiber · 3 pointsr/CampingandHiking

You're welcome!

>Is there a good compass or gps you would reccomend?

I'm afraid I'm not a good authority on GPS. I use a DeLorme InReach which is a two-way communicator with GPS ability if tethered to a phone. It's overkill for someone starting out, I wouldn't recommend it unless you've got piles of money burning a hole in your pocket.

As for compasses, I carry a cheap Brunton baseplate compass. Similar to this Silva, but I don't go off trail or crosscountry. More importantly is that you know how to use one. Watch some youtube videos first, figure out if you need a compass that has sights, or if you live in a higher/lower latitude and need something to match your magnetic zone.

Hold off on the GPS and learn how to use a compass and map first. Then if you think it's necessary (or more convenient) step up to a GPS. Remember that maps and compasses don't need batteries.

>How much water is enough water?

General rule is 1 gallon/day, but it varies from person to person, terrain, temperature, etc. If you're in an area with decent water sources, get yourself a Sawyer Mini.

>When deciding where to go in back country do most people just choose a thing and then travel there and back and around or are there trails that people take and camp along?

Choosing a thing and traveling there is called "cross-country hiking" which means hiking off-trail and making your own path. This is allowed in some places and frowned upon at others, depends on how fragile/protected the terrain is. If you're going cross-country, you better be proficient at orienteering.

I'd wager the majority of people hike on trails and camp along the way at established camp sites.

u/archbox · 3 pointsr/preppers

Filters better and filters more:

| Lifestraw | Sawyer Mini
Membrane | 0.2 microns | 0.1 microns (2x better)
Capacity | 264 gallons | 100,000 gallons (378.8x better)
Bacteria | 6 LOG | 7 LOG (10x better)
Bacteria% | 99.9999% | 99.99999% (10x better)
Protozoa | 3 LOG | 6 LOG (1000x better)
Protozoa% | 99.9% | 99.9999% (1000x better)
Price | $19.20 | $19.97 or 4 for $67.51 ($16.88 each)

The mini is also smaller and comes with a 32 oz squeezable water pouch, 7" tube, syringe for cleaning (if it clogs)

>Attaches to included drinking pouch, standard disposable bottles (28 mm thread), hydration packs, or use the straw to drink directly from your water source

u/Ksrugi · 3 pointsr/Random_Acts_Of_Amazon

I grew up in Louisiana and always had these at the ready in case another Katrina came by. Barebones and lightweight in case you need to get up and move.

Multitool - Something that's sturdy, offers plenty of options, but also is lightweight. If I got washed out, this would be one of the top things I'd want coming with me.

First Aid Kit - You just never know. Water can hide a lot of nasty stuff like sharp metal edges, broken glass, etc. The kit I've linked to also comes with a multitool.
Water Filtration System - Dehydration will get you before anything else. Southern heat combined with physical exertion takes a lot out of anyone and tiny filtration systems like this will take care of you without adding bulk.

Meal Replacement Bars - You'll ideally want a few days emergency food. I recommend meal replacement bars that are high in protein and fiber and no less than 500 calories. They'll provide decent nutrition and should make you feel satiated for at least 2-4 hours. I don't have a recommendation on this one because there are so many brands and flavors.
Hand Crank Lantern - A reliable source of light that you can crank on your own. Generally, I avoid using generators and the like. I'm paranoid about electricity after flooding occurs.

Whistle - Great for alerting people without tearing up your vocal chords. It's also very, very, very good to have in case animals that shouldn't come by are nearby.
Dust Mask - If your city floods, there's going to be a lot of crud that comes up from the sewers and a lot of things accumulating inside buildings. Save your lungs and your noses.
Portable Battery - I love this age of technology we're in. Charge this a few days before the storm hits and you'll be able to keep your phone charged for days if the power goes out.
Insect Repellant - The ample amount of still water after a hurricane is prime bug nesting. A little repellant goes a long way.
Paddle Your Own Canoe by Nick Offerman - Or any book really to help pass the time. This is a fantastic read though. :)

u/MrMaxPowers247 · 3 pointsr/Random_Acts_Of_Amazon

I thought you might like this a Mini Water Filter. Happy tax day

u/gizram84 · 3 pointsr/preppers

I remember reading that the Sawyer Filter is a much better product than the LifeStraw.

LifeStraw claims it can filter 1,000 liters. The Sawyer claims 100,000 gallons. Also the Sawyer filters protozoa much better (99.9999% vs 99.9%)

u/columbus_uncle · 3 pointsr/MTB

I have one of these filters and it serves me well if there is a water source on long rides

u/possumroadkill · 3 pointsr/Winnipeg

Sawyer Mini

  • Best filter out there.
u/toum112 · 3 pointsr/trailrunning

If you know that you'll be going past a water source, like a river, you could always bring a portable water filter. Sawyer makes one that's pretty compact.

u/blackxbaron · 3 pointsr/Survival
u/gramps14 · 3 pointsr/AppalachianTrail

How are you going to get filtered water into your bladder? Or effectively get unfiltered water out of it? I do not think the lifestraw can be connected in line with a hose either.

I would look at something like the Sawyer Squeeze: better filtration, can filter more gallons (100,000), able to screw onto a bladder/bottle or use inline with hydration hose (connect between end of hose and mouthpiece).

Or Aqua Mira drops.

u/notaneggspert · 3 pointsr/GoldandBlack

If only there was an affordable way to purify a lot of water from any source. Wait. Yes. There. Are. Several.

u/Ashton-McNibbles · 3 pointsr/Ultralight

I bet you could lose 0.5 oz by replacing the 2 connectors and the hose with just the Sawyer Products SP150 Coupling for Water Filtration Cleaning


u/stoned_geologist · 3 pointsr/Ultralight

I would recommend upgrading to an Evernew 2L soft bottle. In my experience Platypus's leak. I would also recommend getting this little dude to make it a handsfree operation if you will be using a smartwater bottle.

u/Thedustin · 3 pointsr/Ultralight

Lol, $62.00 on Amazon Canada

u/jmp485 · 3 pointsr/Ultralight

Can't offer an opinion on that Evernew bladder but the CNOC Vecto has similar utility and has gotten good to great reviews thus far. Just got mine this past christmas so I haven't gotten to put it to much use yet, but it seems like a good piece of kit. Don't know if it has the same build quality as Evernew, but worth taking a peak at.

u/ladeebug · 2 pointsr/Survival

Katadyn Pocket Water Microfilter

I think this is the best there is in the market. It's not quite compact and is a bit pricy but its built to last and the reviews on it are great.

u/surgeon_general · 2 pointsr/PostCollapse

Is there a filtered water bottle you can recommend for me? I was reading reviews of cheap ones, and people were claiming you can't use them for water in the wild- just for basic tap water filtering. My research took me to a $280 water bottle, if you really want to purify water. I really would rather spend much less. What is your opinion?

One of my personal concerns about a society collapse is that I drink about 2.5 gallons of water per day. It makes it tough for me to be any kind of survivalist with that handicap.

u/nchoy808 · 2 pointsr/Hawaii

I have also done the Na Pali Coast trail. Spent 7 days in the valley with 15 of my best friends. One of the best weeks of my life. The trail is not easy. We did it all in one day. Maybe like 5-6 hours of hiking. Depending on the fitness of your group it can take considerably longer to finish. Some people camp at campsites along the trail.

I would be seriously concerned about a dog on the trail at certain points because of how narrow it gets at points all their general unpredictability. Especially if you to have them on a leash.

If you're really worried about weight you can ask/hire someone to kayak stuff in for you.

The best piece of equipment we had was a hanging water filter, I think this was the one:

You may not need it, depending on the size of your group but with 15 pumping water was just going to be a pain in the ass.

Please feel free to PM with any questions, would love to help.

u/shufflin_ · 2 pointsr/preppers

Thank you for the update on the solar charger. My room gets a lot of sunlight, but I will make sure to test it out thoroughly.

I'll amend my plan so that I don't only rely on the waterBob. I'll also store water in water gallon containers, in addition to the waterBob which I may or may not use.

Can I use the bleach to decontaminate the water? Or something like this:

u/RoyRogersMcFreely · 2 pointsr/BuyItForLife

This is also just over $100, but it is awesome for camping. Never worry about your water again.

This is a slightly cheaper
, more physical way to purify water in the woods.

EDIT: Filters kind of ruin the BIFL philosophy, unless you're looking at the possibility of it saving your life in woods.

u/bemicker · 2 pointsr/CampingandHiking

My friend had that Katadyn water filter -- it was compact but once the pump action got harder it was very incovenient, you don't have a huge range of motion so my hand would cramp up if pumping a lot.

I have the MSR MiniWorks EX Microfilter, which looks very similar to the Sweetwater. I have been very pleased with it, especially since you can just screw it onto a nalgene.

u/LogicalWhiteKnight · 2 pointsr/AskReddit

Buy a .22 LR rifle, for hunting and longer range zombie sniping, preferably something light and portable like a henry AR-7, and a handgun, preferably reliable and durable with a common caliber, like a 9mm Glock. As much ammo as you can comfortably carry along with your other supplies. As far as supplies, I would carry basic fire starting equipment, such as a lighter or waterproof matches, or if you want to get fancy a magnesium fire starter. I would carry as many power bars as possible for food, they have a lot of calories for their size and weight. I would get a water purification pump, because making fresh water will be the hardest challenge. The UV pens will run out of batteries, and you will eventually run out of iodine pills, but something like this is field maintainable and will last nearly forever, and can produce a large supply of water.

Also a good plan is basic first aid supplies, including pain killers, disinfectant, bandages, etc. I would also include some quik clot, they sell it at REI and other sporting stores, it is good for gunshot wounds or other wide open and seriously bleeding wounds.

u/P0x26A · 2 pointsr/motocamping
u/spdorsey · 2 pointsr/Yosemite

I bring this and 2 Nalgene bottles with me when I hike in the Sierras. Worth every penny. You can get fresh drinking water from any river or stream.

u/crazyguyonabike · 2 pointsr/preppers

If you want a real cheap gravity filter that you can put together with a couple of buckets, check out Monolithic:

You can get white food-grade buckets at Lowes here in Albany for under $5. That's a LOT less than buying online.

Or if you want to get a more pre-made (but also more expensive) solution, the Katadyn Gravidyn is very nice:

One tip on the Gravidyn filters - don't drop them! I did with one, and they are very fragile. Boom, $60 down the drain. :P

Also for water you might look at the hiking filters, for example I really like the MSR Miniworks:

I like carbon-based ceramic filters, over the new-fangled nanotube ones, because activated carbon not only removes many chemicals, but it also improves the taste of the water.

u/roflatwork · 2 pointsr/Dodgers

brought these to all 6 games ive been to this year
back pocket with jersey works like a charm

u/PancakesHouse · 2 pointsr/minnesotatwins
u/Whiskeysludge · 2 pointsr/stlouisblues

Something like this. They sell them at most liquor stores and will pass the wand check and not look obvious.

u/luckykarma83 · 2 pointsr/Random_Acts_Of_Amazon


  1. My dog, I would go crazy without him.

  2. A fishing pole and never empty container of worms.

  3. A firesteel and scraper like this one! They work even when wet.

  4. [A desalinator.] ( I pretty much always travel with my CamelBak so I would have that to hook up to this :)

  5. A fully loaded Amazon Kindle, tons of books that I can read for a year.
u/HolyHarris · 2 pointsr/zombies

I would also argue those water clarification tablets. I used them once while on a long hike and boy did they give me the shits. It looked so much like curry it could've fooled an Indian. Not to mention it makes the water taste like shit. I would recommend some lifestraws or something like this and a few of its filters.

u/In_the_Whisper · 2 pointsr/Homebrewing

I started with a 20 gallon Winware Aluminium kettle, a custom bag , ball valve, a clip on thermometer, and a couple of Aquatainers for no chill. I miss the simplicity of that setup.

u/jeremyjava · 2 pointsr/AskNYC

> (tuna fish will be a staple of the apocalypse diet)

But think of the mercury poisoning! Kidding - thanks for the reminder about water to those who don't keep it on hand. We picked up this from amazon for just such an event

u/psubrew · 2 pointsr/Homebrewing

I have well water at my house. It is OK for malt-forward styles, but not really that great for hop-forward beers. I could never brew an IPA that met my standards before switching to RO and building water profiles. Once you figure out what works for you, it becomes routine, and not really much work. I keep 2 blue Coleman 5 gallon water cans in my trunk, and just fill them up whenever I am at the grocery store, even if I no immediate plans to brew. I prefer the blue water cans over carboys for this purpose because they have handles, are square with a squat design, and have screw on lids.

u/shagotobed · 2 pointsr/BurningMan
u/vhfpower · 2 pointsr/preppers

[these things] ( came in pretty hand these past few weeks with all the NE storms and power outages. Yeah the other gear was helpful, but these really stood out.

Oh, and the wife who reminded me in time to fill them. So yeah I guess she's actually been the most worthwhile purchase.

u/SherrifOfNothingtown · 2 pointsr/preppers

Easy mode: 5-gallon jug with a spigot. It sits on its side and you turn the tap on and the water runs. these meet that description & can also be used for drinking water. Set it on a shelf or stack of boxes to get the spigot at the right height.

You could also look into a camping shower from wherever you buy your camping supplies to see if it's what you're looking for.

u/AnythingButSue · 2 pointsr/MTB

You'll need lodging, so either a tent or a plain cot. Basically you're wanting a "minimalist" camping kit. As far as water, I use these water purification tablets. Work like a charm as long as you can find a stream/river/lake. If you start with that (and obviously food) you'll find things over the years that you find repeatedly useful and start taking with you every time.

u/emeraldcat8 · 2 pointsr/NoStupidQuestions

If you live near a park/greenbelt system, just put on your most comfortable athletic shoes and pack your daypack. It will probably be easy, level walking and no getting lost. It will let you see how well your shoes treat you. There are usually walking or driving routes in state parks, wildlife management areas, and wildlife refuges. Often with easy, short loops. Some ski areas have walking trails in the off season. There are also various group hikes offered by birding groups or community education. Bring some moleskin for blisters (cut into strips at home), sunscreen, and water purification tabs like these. Maybe add a cheap flashlight or headlamp and bug repellent. There’s been some great advice about what else to pack. After a while, you’ll develop a system that works for you.

u/Ilsensine · 2 pointsr/bugout

Basically you got a kit that is a GearWhores dream, what you don't have is a kit that will keep you alive for more than a few days.

  1. I want you to pile up all this shit you call a kit on Floor
  2. Place an empty box on your bed and put the following in it:
    A) the ability to clean and carry water.
    B) the ability to make fire.
    C) shelter to keep dry/warm (a simple poncho and Mylar Blankets at first)

    At this point you could live for a couple weeks, and you've spent $40+ cost of pack

    D) food, start with compact shelf stable foods, like the dry emergency rations or these.
    A couple weeks worth is like $20, now if you ration you could live for over a month.

    3)Now throw away everything else left on the floor.
    As the other person pointed out you have 60+ pounds of junk. That fact is a kit to keep you alive for over a month should cost $60 and fit in a shoe box.
u/macetheface · 2 pointsr/bugout

The thing with bug out bags is first figuring out where you're going to bug out to and how you're going to get there. Do you have relatives that live 100 miles away? If so can you walk there if your car is unusable? I'm still struggling with this as my family is in the exact opposite direction of where I'd want to bug out to in a disaster/ SHTF situation.

Unfortunately, BOB's can get pretty expensive quickly - I picked my bag and contents for an indefinite bug out so naturally I ended up spending a good amount of $ on it - BUT spaced out purchases throughout many months as I also didn't have the money to be spending all at once.

Anyway, if you want to keep it under $50, I'd suggest looking for second hand bags....even for a halfway decent one, this can bring your budget to at least half that. Ideally, you'll want one with an internal frame and a belt strap. This will keep the weight off your shoulders and distributed evenly throughout - this is especially important if you plan on walking a bunch of miles. If you're not planning on walking far, then this isn't much of an issue but to me, bugging out assumes some walking involved.

Following the survival rule of 3's, the first item you'll need to address is some sort of shelter. Get some 550 paracord and a decent tarp. This shouldn't cost too much and you can make a quick & easy A frame type shelter. Even a few heavy duty trash bags could go a long way (ie solar shower, solar still).

I'd def get at least a light summer sleeping bag unless you feel ok sleeping on a bundle of pine sprigs. Do you have decent hiking boots and wool socks ready to go? I see a lot of bug out bags skimping on this but to me is one of the most important things to have.

Can you start a fire with the fire striker you have? How about if the ground is wet? Not saying you need to get one of these but also not sure if you would be able to process wood with a leatherman.

Next is water. Do you have a cup/ canteen to hold/ boil water in? If you're on the run, get something like this. But if you have time to boil any stagnant water, the canteen with cup linked above is a good idea to have.

For food, yeah protein bars, cans of tuna are cheap and good to have. I got a few of these. But they actually get kinda heavy quick (3 days worth of food in one block). For longer term, I'm currently looking into a decent fishing rod and setting snares.

Hope this helps! If you want to spend a bit more $ I can share with you some of the other contents I have..

u/The_NGUYENNER · 2 pointsr/WTF

That would be water treatment/purification tablets, which they have, not dehydrated water.

u/hey_wait_a_minute · 2 pointsr/Silverbugs

Yea, walmart. But they've put all the other stores that would be options out of business.

Amazon sells the same item

Cheaper too. Might pick up a couple more.

I think it's 1/2 teaspoon of regular clorox per gallon keeps the water safe for decades. When you need it, open the lid and let it sit for a day and the chlorine will dissipate away.

u/NOCIANONSA · 2 pointsr/Homebrewing

I also use Kroger RO water (now 39 cents/gallon) to fill these 7 gallon containers:

u/snugglebandit · 2 pointsr/Portland

I haven't really looked in to long term storage treatment that much. Usually around this time of year, I'm dumping them into the rain barrel and refilling. The rain barrel is still quite full however.
I have 2 types of 7 gallon container. These ones and these ones. If I get more, they'll be the jerry can style as they are easier to move around and take up less floor space. If you have a lot of space, something like this could keep you in water for a month and maybe be a hero to your neighbors as well.

u/GeneralMalaiseRB · 2 pointsr/preppers

The cheap bottles and water containers that they sell at the grocery store are not really meant to least very long. The water doesn't expire, but the container does... sort of. After a certain amount of time, the plastic can begin leaching into the water. It degrades, to an extent. That's why people are always talking about "food grade" and "BPA free" plastic containers for longer term water storage.

Forget hoarding bottles and grocery-store jugs of water. Get some BPA-free jugs (or better yet, a 55 gallon drum) and fill it up yourself. If you have chlorinated city tap water, you're probably fine. If not, just add some water treatment to it (or look up the proper amount of bleach to add, for a cheaper alternative).

This is the sort of water jug I'm talking about.

u/satcomwilcox · 2 pointsr/preppers

Consider the Reliance Aqua-Tainer. They aren't as cheap as clean food grade 55s, but the are a lot easier to find places to put. You could put a few of them in the bottom of a closet and put a board over it to make a shoe shelf or something. The seals are really good. They are kind of tall but possibly with a set of these Bed Risers you could line the underside of your bed with the laying on their sides.

u/leahcim435 · 2 pointsr/VEDC

Heres the one I use. It's not the same form factor, but it's similar in size to having two Jerry cans

Edit: I see a negative review on there that claims the company doesn't make these to the same quality anymore. I bought mine a few years ago and haven't had any issues, but I guess buyer beware

u/pseudo_mccoy · 2 pointsr/vandwellers

I have four of these 7 gal jugs but only used them my first month. Then I got lazy and started buying water in bottles and jugs. It's less weight to carry and provides a supply of piss containers.

u/mvmntsofthemind · 2 pointsr/tampa

Yeah it is a long drive, but just get up early and drive out there, takes a couple hours, and trust me, it's worth it. In Ocala, you can hike all day, then setup camp, and then walk over and go swimming in a spring, two nights in a row. But you need to either hike with a partner and self shuttle, or pay someone to drop you off on the other end of the trail. But definitely you want some easier overnights under your belt. I think Hillsborough and Starkey would be good shakedown hikes.

  1. Water. There's a million ways to make water, this way is one of the best. Get two smartwater bottles, 1 or 1.5L each, and a sawyer squeeze, and a tornado tube. The tornado tube lets you mate any standard water/soda bottle or bladder onto both ends of the sawyer filter. Just fill up the bladder with dirty water, and roll the bag to force water through the filter. Clean, drinkable water comes out the other side into your smartwater bottles. 3L is plenty of capacity for this area. Most times you will only need one bottle, but it's nice to have the second so you can fill it up before getting into camp. You can also add to this kit a 20oz water or soda bottle with the top cut off. This is a cheap, light "scoop", that let's you scoop up standing water and pour it into the sawyer bladder. you'll find it's hard to fill that bladder otherwise if you're trying to use water that isn't moving. (Remember, you can boil water to purify it, but this is florida and boiled swamp water is still swamp water, you'll want to filter it for it to be palatable.)

  2. I am guessing you have a backpacking stove. If not, get one, and you'll need a ultralight cookpot. To start, a msr pocket rocket or micro-rocket is a good beginner's system. (I use alcohol stove, but you can work up to that later). You'll also need a cookpot. My lightweight, cheap option of choice is the imusa 12cm pot, which you can find at walmart for about $8. Bring a bandana or something to hold it though, because it gets HOT. You'll use this to boil water for cooking foods. I've had every one of these recipes, and they are all solid, and cheap to make from common grocery store items. The portions and cooking instructions are all dialed in too.

    Edit: alcohol is cheaper, and since you're student, if you want advice on making an alcohol stove, you can start here:
u/aesimpleton · 2 pointsr/CampingandHiking

I just got one of these and it's pretty awesome. I generally carry Aquamira as a backup.

I'm not terribly concerned about Crypto, depending on the water source. I do treat all water, because I don't trust other hikers not to shit near it. How I treat it depends on where I am: Sierra? I'm generally OK with chemicals and maybe a bandanna. One of my local spots with free-range cattle nearby? I'll filter even the best looking water. With the new filter being so light and fast I might just use it all the time. No wait time is nice.

u/ShinyTile · 2 pointsr/Charlotte

If you're really concerned you could get this for $30.

u/og_boyscout · 2 pointsr/preppers

The life straw and aquamira are both good choices. However I found that the life straw was overly bulky and large for the job it completes. Also I had two of the aquamira carbon elements break on me. My suggestion is to go with the sawyer mini -

Or the sawyer squeeze-

(Sorry I don't know how to condense these links.)

If you look at their weight vs. Filtering capacity it's almost unbelievable. They weigh just ounces and it's something like 100,000 gallons for the mini and 1,000,000 gallons for the squeeze. Plus walmart sells these so they are never to far away. Best $20 I ever spent!

u/mt_sage · 2 pointsr/Ultralight

As NeuseRvrRat says, you have to let air out as you pump water into a bottle, so that limits using threads. This would work well filtering into a water pouch, though.

You can, if you wish, get the adapter doohickeys, and attach the blue one to the Mini with a very short piece of hose. This would give you direct coupling between a receptacle vessel and the mini.

u/SampledPanic · 2 pointsr/bugout

I've used those sawyer squeeze bottles on a remote camping trip with generally clean lake water, and found that they do need a fair amount of back-flushing. 6L of lake water made a new filter really slow to a trickle, but the back-flush procedure fixes it right back up. Can't beat the size, but know a standard pump-style filter smokes the sawyer mini with regard to speed.

You'll want to keep that syringe handy, or better yet, get the in-line hydration pack accessory - then you can cut a bit of tubing and attach to a 20-oz bottle. It works way faster for cleaning than filling (and refilling, and refilling...) the syringe, plus it packs down smaller. Saw that trick on some guy's YouTube channel (can't find the link right now), and it was slick.

u/VolatileAngel · 2 pointsr/TradeOrGift
u/Shit___Taco · 2 pointsr/hiking

Alot of people recommend the sawyer, but having used both the MSR Autoflow filter and the Sawyer's, the filters specifically made for Gravity Filters have a much better flow rate.

I recommend just buying an MSR Autoflow filter, buying some hosing and attaching it to an MSR Dromolite bag of your size preference. You can also cut the hose before the the filter and insert one of these:

You can then pack that attachment with aqaurium filter fiber for a really effective sediment filter that will extend the life and flow of the filter.

If you go about it this way, it will be super light weight and is customized to your needs. You will just need an MSR cap that has a hose attachment.

u/kimchibear · 2 pointsr/WildernessBackpacking

So I just picked up an MSR hydration kit for my dromedary and the SP110 hose adapters. I'm expect it'll do okay as a jury-rigged gravity set up, but any idea if it'll hold up as a squeeze setup?

u/JMJACO · 2 pointsr/WildernessBackpacking

I think there are a couple of questions you should ask yourself first.

  1. How do you plan to treat water? Sawyer Squeeze (, Aquatabs (, bleach, etc.?
  2. How do you plan to carry that much water? Does your bag and gear accommodate the space and weight?
    If you are using the Sawyer Squeeze, you could use something like 3L CNOC bags (the thread on top matches the Squeeze, unlike other bags), and the 3L CNOC bag is 3.7oz each ($23 Good lightweight construction. If you plan to use Aquatabs, Aquamira, or bleach, you could use something even more lightweight like the Platypus 2L bags at 1.3oz each ($9 Those do not match the Squeeze threads, but if you're not using Squeeze anyway it wouldn't matter. Both the CNOC and Platypus bags roll down to nothing when empty, and are easy to travel with. You could carry 2 of the CNOC or Platypus bags + 2 1L Smartwater bottles (again, the threading on these matches Sawyer Squeeze) for a total of 6-8oz, without using that much space, and without costing that much money. Just remember that water itself is pretty heavy, which is why most people try to camel up and drink a lot at water stops, and then not have to carry as much all day.
u/marekkane · 2 pointsr/Ultralight

Here's the Amazon link . I am also in Toronto, and bought this in April. It arrived fairly quickly, and has no import duties. It says it comes with one pouch, but mine came with two bags, and the hanging pouch and adapter/tube for gravity filtering. I wasn't expecting that! I may have lucked out, or it's listed incorrectly. It was cheaper than buying it in store in the States, with the exchange rate.

u/goof_schmoofer · 2 pointsr/Ultralight

There are a few reasons:

  • They can be a pain in the ass to remove and put back in the badder pouch holder with a full backpack. Though there are solutions to that issue as well.

  • I've had my badder leak on me during a hike. The point where the hose attaches to the bladder wasn't seated right and I lost most of my water. Of course that was an ID10T problem. I didn't know that until I got to my campsite that had no water access. That sucked.

  • I pack all my fears which gets really heavy. One of my fears is a lack of water on a trip so I pack a huge water bladder. The story above didn't help me with that fear. Actually used to pack 2 full water bladders for a hike that followed a river. I'm trying to learn I don't need all of that AND I want to hike faster and with less weight. So trying the Smart Water bottle route.
u/BioSore · 2 pointsr/CampingGear

This. Pick up the Fast Fill Adapter, and you can quickly mod nearly any hydration pack to have quick-connect inline access for your Sawyer.

u/docb30tn · 2 pointsr/preppers

Your pack is going to have weight or you're going to suffer. In the Army, as a Medic I carried standard load: Body armor, helmet, 240 rounds of 5.56, M4, 9mm with 4 mags of ammo, and a 30 lb Aid Bag.
I know you won't be using all that stuff, but a 30lb pack isn't that heavy. You should be wearing some of the stuff you need.
Water: I strongly invest in two items. A Camelbak with at least a 3 liter bladder and a Sawyer Mini Filtration kit:
6 within a mile? It's short sighted if you're going to stay in the area, but bugging out has the goal of getting to a further away safe location where you have your permanent setup. If you have no place to go, it's pointless in leaving unless where you live/are is more dangerous if you stay.
You'll need to learn many various ways to filter water you find. Some water cannot be cleaned, like stagnant water in ponds have higher amounts of germs in them. Moving water doesn't go bad; rivers and fast moving streams. However this water must still be purified, but has less chance of being infected. Any prepper needs to master water purification.
I suggest getting a map of the area you live; larger if your BoL can be found on the map. From there you can mark any water sources you find as well as paths from your house (Point A) to your BoL (Point B)

u/aminalbackwards · 2 pointsr/WildernessBackpacking

I stole the whole setup design from a friend, just a bladder and a filter.

The pump adds air to a separate compartment to pressurize the water reservoir and lets you fill cups/pots with water straight from the mouthpiece, without it you would have to carry the extra Sawyer squeeze bag. Only thing I would change is using a bigger sawyer filter, this one flows pretty slow (maybe buy the geigerrig filter instead). The geigerrig is a really awesome piece of equipment though; super easy to fill and really durable.

u/jcrot · 2 pointsr/CampingandHiking

Water Filter

this would be an easy, cheap upgrade and would save some ounces.

70.4 ounces for the half dome? REI Specs it at 92. I have the same tent, but am looking at upgrading to the quarter dome 1 person. When someone else is with, I can split up the weight for the half dome.

As some one else recommended, lose one of your knifes. For how much they're used, I don't find multi tools worth while and just carry a small folding blade.

u/memento22mori · 2 pointsr/todayilearned

This isn't an Amazon affiliate link or anything, I used to work for them and I never figured that out, this is the best portable filter money can buy and it's $21. It removes almost all of the bacteria and protozoa from water- though it doesn't removes viruses or pharmaceuticals.

>High performance filter fits in the palm of your hand, weighs 2 ounces and filters up to 100,000 gallons (30 times more than comparable filters)
>Attaches to included drinking pouch, standard disposable water bottles, hydration packs, or use the straw to drink directly from your water source
>Removes 7 log (99.99999%) of all bacteria and 6 log (99.9999%) of all protozoa (Each filter is certified for absolute microns; that means there is no pore size larger than 0.1 in size. This makes it nearly impossible for harmful bacteria, protozoa, or cysts like E. coli, Giardia, Vibrio cholerae and Salmonella typhi (which cause Cholera and Typhoid) to pass through the Sawyer Mini filter.)

u/Bizzaroworld725 · 2 pointsr/bugout

this site has some good bags for the cheap.
Your priorities sound like they should be shelter, water,food.
Pick a bug out location. Go out into the woods you mentioned and maybe set up a campsite for the weekend. Maybe go back to the same site next weekend and practice some bushcraft skills and make your site better, practice building fire, hunting, things you'll be doing in a SHTF situation.
You'll need a means to treat water. I think I'm gonna be ordering a sawyer mini in the near future after reading some good reviews. But boiling water should be fine as long as it hasn't been tainted by chemicals.
Food kind of depends on how long you plan on bugging out for.

These are just a few quick ideas to help get the brain storm going and just to kinda throwing them out there. Pick up a few survival books, maybe hook up with someone that knows wild edibles in your area.

u/standardalias · 2 pointsr/camping

how do you define pure water?

don't water bottles become reusable bottles after yo drink them down?

why cant my tap water be filtered?

question 8, what type of water filter? the ones from question 7 where i had to decide which of two styles i like?

i use one of these. make something better and cheaper and i'll use that.

u/gunshyjohnny · 2 pointsr/socalhiking

I have the katadyn Vario and i've used the MSR Sweetwater EX. They are both good. My favorite now is the cheap ($20) Sawyer squeeze filter. I use it with a Platypus bag as a gravity filter. The Vario and MSR weigh too much and there is much more maintenance. The sawyer squeeze is very popular. You don't need the Platypus bag, you can use the sawyer squeeze by itself.

sawyer squeeze

platypus big zip

u/makinbacon42 · 2 pointsr/CampingandHiking

Firstly for the sleeping bag what temperatures are you looking at needing it for? also have you considered the possibility of a quilt?

How much water depends on the availability of it where you're hiking, but generally 2-4L as a start is usually good. For purification I bring a Sawyer Mini with a 2L bag and aquamira as a backup.

I prefer baby wipes as they can be used for other things but make sure you get biodegradable ones as well

My stove is a MSR Pocket Rocket but as a cheaper option [this] ( stove works well too. You also have the option of small alcohol stoves and other liquid fueled types.

u/ForrestSmith151 · 2 pointsr/hiking

First Aid Kit - you might not need it ever, but you should always have it. All kits are different but there are fundamental items that should be carried, you can check out the NOLS Kits
and either buy one or for less, make your own that is custom to your needs and desires.

Tools - First, carry a knife that can cut decent size branches, again, you might not need it but its good to have. Second, I recommend getting a water filter such as a Sawyer mini or Katadyn Be Free as they are both lightweight and will probably decrease your pack weight if you hike near water. Third, Fire can be helpful in many situations but must be used carefully and with respect. If you live somewhere that allows it, a wood burning camp stove will be worth some warmth and also allow you to cook if you bring along a mess set. I personally use an MSR Pocket Rocket. As a day hiker, you might not use a stove often but it's not bad to have if you do longer hikes or are far from civilization so if that's the case, look into tablet stoves. generally, you should have a lighter or two just in case. You may also consider carrying a survival blanket just in case (as goes for most these objects).

The Front Pouch - So the idea behind having this pouch is to have things that you want quick access too on the trail, the most important of which is your map. Navigation is important when hiking so if you're not familiar with an area buy a map and bring a compass. I personally don't use a compass but I've learned how to navigate without one, however you should always have a map. You may also need to have a permit for some hiking areas and it's nice to have within reach, usually with your map. you may also like to have TP and a camp trowel in there so that it is not hard to find at the wrong moment. along with that, a trash bag of any kind should be carried. Finally, carry snacks in there so that you don't have to dig around to find them.

Summary - This is all advice from a Backpacker so there will be many things you don't need on every hike but could save your life if you get caught in a bad situation, many of the objects I recommend are the same. If I'm close to home or not going out too far on a day hike, I usually carry a Knife, Be Free Filter, Lighter/Stove (depending on mileage) an extra coat, and extra food, but each hike and hiker are different. You will eventually find a system that works well for you, but it's always good to carry things that make life on the trail easier and can get you through a night in the wild. With thought on my comment, you should also check out the Ten Essentials as they will almost always be worth their weight.

If you have any other questions feel free to ask!

u/Cool_Bastard · 2 pointsr/preppers

I skimmed through your list, but am short on time. Some of my stuff overlaps with yours, but I'm a firm believer in redundancy. Shit gets lost or you loan it out or it gets up and walks away and then you have none. You'll notice it happens to us even when we're NOT in a natural disaster emergency situation.

I'm assuming your bug out bag is for more than 3 days. I hate the 3 day scenario.

I did CTRL-F. What I did not find was:

  • tourniquet - I suggest two
  • The blue tarps are big and bulky. One would be great on the ground under a tent, but I'd suggest a large poncho or thin nylon sheet with grommets for a "roof" under trees to keep the rain out, or snow. Maybe something fireproof?
  • knife - specifically survival knife & pocket knife. Yeah, I saw your's not a survival knife.
  • Is your TP in a ziplock baggie? Is it separated into separate sections so it won't get lost. I suggest two rolls, just in case.
  • Duct tape.
  • 100' parachute cord - I saw you had 30', Personally, I like to have a lot more. You'll need a knife to cut and a lighter to burn the ends
  • Lighters - You have one unopened set of Bic lighters, so if you lose it, you lose all of them. Maybe consider opening it and putting the in different locations so when you lose two, you still have three backup.
  • Backup flashlight & extra Batteries - I suggest rechargeables and a solar rechargeable pack. I like to standardize all my electronics with the same type, like AA.
  • Pen/paper - Yeah I saw you have it, but are they waterproof? I got some off Amazon (pads were in a pack of 5) where the paper pads were waterproof and tear proof. Pen was sposed to be waterproof as well.
  • Boots - with appropriate socks (3 pair)
  • Water purifier that's a little more robust than laying down in a creek bed and drinking through a straw. Maybe this one or this one along with your life straw. Do you have a collapsable container to hold water in? So you won't always have to go to the creek bed?
  • Solar shower? You don't know how long your disaster might be and a shower does wonders for the body & mind.
  • Towel, wash cloths. You always need to wash and dry your mess kit along with yourself and tools.
  • Soap for washing mess kit and for yourself. Shampoo or bar shampoo, extra ziplock bags, larger nylon bags (like shopping bags) to carry shit that you come across, like firewood or other cans of food or rocks.
  • Something for self defense or to chase wild dogs/coyotes away or even predators. Even if it's a high power sling shot with steel ball bearings, or a high power, full auto CO2 BB gun, anything to tell an aggressor that you're not just a sitting duck. Personally, I would NOT want to be hit with a full auto BB gun or even a steel ball from a sling shot. Don't make yourself an easy target, hence your knife.
  • A back up boot knife. Always have two. One they can see, and one that's hidden.
u/BarbarianNerd · 2 pointsr/CampingandHiking

If you want to get by cheap, pare the list down to essentials.
You need water, food, good shoes/boots, and shelter and to keep it light. Everything else is periphery.

The cheapest and lightest way to carry water is to use an empty quart milk jug or two with a rope on it. It's not as good as a camel back style bladder, but it's more reliable in my experience for fractions of pennies on the dollar.

I recommend a Lifestraw or a Sawyer filter for water purification. They cost about 20 bucks and they're really effective. Not necessarily essential for short trips, but it does a lot for peace of mind and you never know when bad stuff will happen. They don't filter out heavy metals or dissolved materials (ie anything <.1 microns).

REI has a really good info primer on sleeping bags

I wouldn't worry about poles for overnight stuff at all. That's for like weeks of constant hiking or alpine stuff. They can be useful and are helpful, but they can be passed by most of the time.

I get by with a rubberized army poncho and a blanket instead of a tent and bag. It's good enough to keep the rain off and a bit of body heat in, but it's not ideal and it's time consuming. I got it at a yard sale for two bucks. But for one night, it's good enough. A rain fly or tent foot print, or plain tarp is also effective. There are some pretty legit one person backpacking tents out there for about 70-100 bucks, I'll probably get one next. Not sure which brands are good though.

For food, I'd do the mountain house meals and hoist my garbage high and away from camp after wards, preferably in an air tight bag of some kind when you haul it out.

Normally I prefer to do something like pilot bread, PB, dried fruit, a big bag of spinach for the first day or two, green beans, nuts, and maybe some quality sausages and cucumbers, but the convenience of the MRE style foods is often appealing. army steel canteen cups are good for boiling stuff in, but the canteens are kinda useless.

A lighter, some matches, and wet fire packets are great.

Get a mid grade belt knife, like a buck or a k-bar or similar. It's a whole nother can of worms to discuss however. Just be careful as some buck knives are made in china, the ones made in idaho are always marked american made on the packaging.

Silva makes a good compass, a good topographic map, a small 10ths scale ruler (or any cheap one) are a good idea. Know your pace count and hwo to use these tools effectively. Compasses are pretty useful in foul weather or unfamiliar places, but navigational things aren't really essential.

I'd get some biodegradable toilet paper and read this.

That's about all I can think of right now, there's probably more to say and think about. Good luck! Park jobs are a ton of fun! Wish I was going with.

u/brainbacteria · 2 pointsr/BuyItForLife

Lifestraw is good, but for the same amount of money you can get a Sawyer mini filter.
It seems to be the go-to backpacking filter, has 100,000 gallon guarantee on it, and a smaller micron filter at .01. I agree with 12pieces though, a filter is a good way to go.

u/jhulbe · 2 pointsr/BWCA

I've rarely had people stop in at my campsite, we usually hang a clothes line out front so they know the site is taken.

We've swung by on our boats if we saw people at a site we wanted and asked when they planned on leaving.

For water, i usually go with big groups. Boiling would be a paint.

We bring two of these:

picked up a hose to filter it through:

Then I just take the dirty 5 gallon bucket down to the water, fill it up, and then hang it from a tree and drain it into a clean water tote. The clean tote is used for filling nalgenes and such. Then if you just need a little water to brush your teeth grab it from the dirty bucket hose.

I dug through some photos and found a picture of my setup in the background.

as for the wind... Paddle slow, tie your gear into your canoe. We use Gear Ties by nite ize to secure most things.

I've paddled in some sketchy stuff.

u/cast_away_wilson · 2 pointsr/CampingGear

Sawyer Mini water filter. 1 for $15.46, 2 for $29.47

u/mjern · 2 pointsr/trailrunning

I carry a Sawyer Mini Filter. Haven't had to use it, though.

u/thomas533 · 2 pointsr/preppers

First I see no rain protection. Even if you are wearing some, you should have a rain cover for your pack. A multitool is going to be far more useful than a big hunting knife. A Sawyer Mini Water Filter is far more versatile than a Lifestraw. Nothing beets Beef jerky and GORP for on the go food that is high in calories. The magnesium bar is great and all, but a mini Bic lighter is easy to use and almost as reliable. Carry both.

I would highly recommend looking at some gear lists over at /r/Ultralight. These are people who obsess over coming up with gear lists that they can spend weeks in the woods with but weigh next to nothing. Take their lists and add in a few items for those extra scenarios that worry you the most, and you'll have a good item list.

u/SilverSeven · 2 pointsr/ottawa

Just an FYI, I spend a LOT of time in the woods and put a lot of research into which leatherman to buy. Im so very happy I let a guy at Le Baron talk me into buying the Victorinox SwissTool RS. Its locking mechanism is way better IMO, the selection of tools is a little better, its got a much higher quality feel...all around just a way better product.

Does he spend time in the backcountry? Id highly recommend a Sawyer Mini. Pretty much the best filter you can buy. Can throw it right in line on a camel pack too. Super cool.

u/MrMagicpants · 2 pointsr/Design

Every few weeks a post emerges somewhere on Reddit talking about this amazing innovation called the LifeStraw, and inevitably someone chimes in saying the Sawyer Mini is objectively better for the same amount of money.

This time, I'll be that guy.

u/zed_brah · 2 pointsr/sydney

Awesome, I'd like to see it in action. I am looking at getting a Sawyer Mini for my trip.

u/xxxm310ion · 2 pointsr/bugout

So I want to think you’re going for “grey man” due to your backpack, but carrying around an AK might make you stand out a bit. You could try storing your rifle in one of those bags that come with folding chairs. It would help a little at least.

You have a lot of heavy stuff like people have already said. That backpack won’t hold up to much weight over distance. You shouldn’t ever cheap out on the one thing that holds all of your gear. I understand backpacks can get quite expensive, but it really is a must.

You should pack more cordage. That can be used for a million things.

Get you a smaller bottle of water and a water filter. (Sawyer Mini )

I’m sure everyone is talking about weight, so I won’t say much about that other than cans, pots, and pans are heavy.

I’d like to see what changes you make, so feel free to post again once you have updated it a bit! Good luck! Welcome to the club!

u/eyesontheskydotcom · 2 pointsr/CampingandHiking

I'm newer to this, but have done a bunch of research and searched for deals, plus gone on several trips now, so I'll just throw out some options on a few things that have worked for me. Just my $0.02; take it for what it's worth.

Knife: I've have several Mora's. They get tons of recommendations. Plus they're small, light and capable. I've used them to split wood. The one with the firestarter in it is nice.

Water bottles: I use store-bought bottled-water ones. My Sawyer Mini water filter screws right onto them. Granted, that's not a useful option to put hot water in your Nalgene to warm your feet in your sleeping bag, so for cold weather that may not be a good option for you.

Light: Use a headlamp. Much lighter-weight and allows for hands-free.

Clothing: No cotton as others have said. Search for deals on Sierra Trading Post. Sign up for their emails. They'll send you 2-4 every day, but I've gotten a lot of nice stuff for low cost going that route. I put stuff in my cart I think I want, and STP will send you deals regularly. I click through the flyers and then look at the prices in my cart. When the stuff in my cart is a price I like, I buy the stuff then.

u/Brettc286 · 2 pointsr/camping

Do you want to cook with filtered water? If so, these systems are not great. I really like this Sawyer filter, it's very versatile.

u/fidelitypdx · 2 pointsr/Portland

I also like the Sawyer, it's ~$22.00 on Amazon. It's not the fastest filter, but it works pretty well.

u/FindYourFemaCamp · 2 pointsr/camping

Iodine is blegh. Takes a while to purify the water and leaves a taste.

instead get a
sawyer mini from amazon for 20 bucks.

Removes 99.99999% of all bacteria, up to 100,000 gallons.

u/thelastboyscout007 · 2 pointsr/preppers

Becker BK22 - This knife is a freakin beast. I've batoned 4in thick hardwood logs with this badboy with no problems and it still held its edge. And at 1/4 thick you could pry open a car door with it if needed.

Sawer Mini Water Filter

Mountain House Meals - Lightweight long storage and taste great.

Laplander Folding Saw

u/AnotherProject · 2 pointsr/CampingandHiking

Good inexpensive water filter

For a first aid kit just build your own; a few band aids, bandage, neosporin, ibprofin, anti diarrhea

u/II12yanII · 2 pointsr/WildernessBackpacking

For a water purifier I would go with the sawyer water filter. You can filter water into any bottle you want or use it like a straw.

u/cdougyfresh · 2 pointsr/financialindependence

I have a straw filter in my bug out bag, but for home I keep this one around.

I also have some water purification tablets.

I honestly haven't tried any of the freeze dried food yet, need to do that! Canned food rotation is good, but we don't really eat much canned food regularly, so doesn't work too great for us. We try to eat as much fresh / local produce & meats as possible.

u/ThirstyOne · 2 pointsr/Bushcraft

High-Vis version of this kit.

I'm not a fan of the Knife+Ferrocerium rod combos. The Mora Survival one specifically is more expensive than the counterparts purchased separately. I prefer purpose built strikers because trying to exercise mechanical force using something other than the business end of something sharp and pointy sounds like a recipe for injury. Plus, if you lose your knife you're fucked because now you don't have a striker.

Get some:

u/who_killed_my_fish · 2 pointsr/motocamping

Get a cheap Sawyer water filter. I usually only take a 32oz bottle of water with me and take my mini water filter. You can get one for $20 on Amazon:

I have a few of these. I keep one in my car, one in my motorcycle saddlebags, one in my hiking backpack. It's always the first thing I check for when packing my gear.

There's a bunch of different ways to use it, you can even use it as a straw and drink from a puddle in a muddy pothole in a dirt road. But mostly I fill the bag full of water from a stream and squeeze it out of the filter into my regular water bottle.

u/chadcf · 2 pointsr/worldnews

If you're not worried about viruses, this is a better option. If you are worried about viruses I'd get a Steripen in addition to that. With some iodine, bleach or aquamira as a backup for course.

u/aerosol999 · 2 pointsr/CampingandHiking

Highly recommend the Sawyer Mini. It might not be the most efficient but it's crazy lightweight and get's the job done.

u/climbing-kevin · 2 pointsr/preppers

Based off my many years of backpacking, 70 pounds is way too heavy. Honestly, I would seriously try doing a 20 mile 2 day 1 night backpacking trip with that setup (replace the guns and ammo with water that weighs as much and you cant touch if you are backpacking in gun restricted areas). However, I'm 90% sure you will find that you're ditching your stuff left and right. Even when I am backpacking and sleeping out in 5 degree weather, my pack weight is only 25 pounds at max. I would look at the r/ultralight to learn what you really need.
Ways to lighten up your pack load:

-titanium pot

-alcohol stove instead of the butane/propane stoves (

-use a sawer mini (only $20 at 2 oz and filters 100,000 gallons) instead of a pump filter

-Switch to a cuben fiber tarp and try tarp camping (
-if bugs are an issue you can get a net tent insert with the tarp

-ditch the nalgene water bottle/stainless steel kleen canteen (you already have the titanium pot that weighs less, just use a platypus soft water bottle, they weigh less/can be rolled up for storage/can hold boiling water so you can put that in your sleeping back to stay warmer at night) (

-switch to a hydrophobic treated down sleeping bag instead of a synthetic bag (

-Ditch the wilderness gps. Put your phone on airplane mode, turn on the gps, and use the app gaia gps. (

u/tstokes_ · 2 pointsr/backpacking

If you can stay away from iodine tablets in the long run, especially for a 3 month trip, try to do so. Iodine tablets are okay to use for short periods of time, but can be extremely unhealthy and damaging to your kidneys and liver if used for too long. I would recommend the Sawyer Mini Water Filter. Sounds like an awesome trip though!

u/my-spatula-is-huge · 2 pointsr/EDC

the sawyer mini is so much better than the life straw and it's less money. The sawyer is smaller, filters 10x smaller particulates, and has a lifetime much longer than the lifestraw (100,000 gallons).

u/chinaman223 · 2 pointsr/preppers

if it's an urban area (i'm assuming because you said apartment its a city/town) your going to need to leave. and local streams won't be safe whatsoever possibly even after boiling if sewage systems are no longer functioning. not to mention the types of people you could find in control of a water source. best to leave to crown land and find a pond/stream. also lifestraws great but the sawyer is my go to. i use both and one huge drawback i've found on the lifestraw is in the winter you can't get all the water out after use and the ice REALLY degrades the filter

u/cmonster_75 · 2 pointsr/MTB

If I'm going to be near water on a really long ride or hike, I'll throw my Sawyer Mini in my pack. Cheap, light, and you can fill a Camelbak through the drink tube by taking off the bite valve.

u/Vanq86 · 2 pointsr/Bushcraft

First I'd make sure you both have all the clothing and footwear you need to be comfortable and the things you'd need for an urban day out (pack, water bottle, some snacks, etc.). Nothing ruins a day like an unexpected blister / rain shower that causes a chill / burned hand from a fire.

After that I'd consider basic survival needs and comforts that might be different in the woods. A small survival kit (and the knowledge required to use it), toilet paper, bug spray, gloves to protect your hands from heat and thorns, a tarp (which you already say you have) to escape the sun or rain, etc.. One suggestion I have that I don't see mentioned often is a lightweight foam kneeling pad. You can get them at the dollar stores in the gardening section usually and for the negligible weight and space they're worth having in my opinion. They are great for kneeling on (obviously), which you'll be doing a lot when practicing bushcraft skills like fire making, and they make a huge difference for the backside when sitting on ground / logs / rocks that are hard / wet / dirty.

With comfort and survival covered you can look at the real 'tools' of bushcraft. The most important thing, in my opinion, is a good knife for each of you. Soooo many projects / skills that are considered 'bushcraft' require / are made easier when you have a decent knife. You don't need to spend a lot (a Mora Companion is a great choice for under 10 dollars), just be sure to do your homework before spending money so you don't end up with something that looks cool but isn't practical for your bushcraft needs.

Beyond the knife I won't go into details about the rest of my suggestions but I think you'll find reasoning behind them fairly self-evident. I've been bushcrafting / camping / hunting for the better part of 2 decades now and all items I list below are all ones that I've personally used many, many times and wouldn't recommend if I didn't find them awesome and reliable. If you look into them further I think you'll find most / all are considered the best 'bang for your buck' option in their given class.

Mora Companion fixed blade knife - carbon or stainless doesn't matter, both are great: ~$12-15

Nalgene leak-proof water bottle - The cheaper HDPE bottle is actually better believe it or not: ~$5-8

Bahco Laplander folding saw - Silky saws are worth the upgrade price in my opinion but are definitely just a 'nice to have', considering Bahcos can't be beat for the price / function / reliability: ~$20-25

Sawyer Mini water filter - filters twice as good as the LifeStraw (0.1 vs 0.2 microns), lasts 10 times longer (100k vs 1k gallons), is much more versatile (you can screw the Sawyer onto a 2 litre coke bottle), and costs less to boot: ~$19

Fiskars X7 hatchet - I know you already have one bust I figured I'd mention it. For a bombproof, light weight, made in Finland hatchet it can't be beat for the price: ~$20-25

Tramontina 18" machete - great balance and blade, just sand or wrap the handle in some tape if yours isn't finished perfectly to avoid potential blisters (this is also where good gloves come in) - ~$15-18

u/4llen5hort · 2 pointsr/backpacking

You'll need a big backpack (around 70+ liters) in order to hold bear canisters. Considering you'll be out for around 4 days, I'd assume around 2 bear canisters would be sufficient.

Talk to rangers in the area about weather, routes, etc.- they know a lot more than you probably ever will about Yosemite.

I personally bring a lot of dried fruit and individual, home-made meals in a bag (see this website for some ideas).

Good luck! Be sure to take some means of water filtration (such as the sawyer mini), and don't be too ambitious in your first adventure.

u/toyoto123 · 2 pointsr/CampingandHiking

I'm looking to buy Cascade Designs MSR SweetWater Microfilter, but this looks really good for how cheap it is

Is Survivor Pro Filter a junk or a legit product for outdoor purpose?

Edit: flow rate is really low, but it has surprisingly high filter life span and really small pores.
Is this like MSR Guardian, aka virus filter, for dirt poor?

u/bmk_ · 2 pointsr/Ultralight

Here is a product sawer makes that fits the squeeze & smart water bottles/evernew bags perfectly -

$2.50 part - no modifications needed, definitely worth the cost.

u/Guyler-R · 2 pointsr/AppalachianTrail

A battery pack to recharge the phone if it gets low?

Maybe replace the plunger with the coupling to backwash (this use to be $3.50 as an add on, so you can probably get it cheaper somewhere else)

u/hom3lesshom3boy · 2 pointsr/CampingGear

You don't need the full gravity kit. Get this $3 adapter (Sawyer Products SP150 Coupling for Water Filtration Cleaning and a CNOC Vecto for your dirty water bag. Use the hook at the wide end of the bag to hang it from a branch or use paracord to create a hang. Attach a water bottle or another bag on the clean end. Bam. Gravity system. I usually leave it hanging at camp while I'm cooking or setting up and I've got clean water by the time I'm done. You can also squeeze if you're really in a rush.

u/outbound · 2 pointsr/WildernessBackpacking

Like pretty much everyone else, Sawyer squeeze for filtration. I finally got a CNOC Vecto bag this year for it, and its a gamechanger. I've also got a cheap coupler so I can use my smartwater bottle to backflush it (the coupler also comes in handy for just hanging bag+filter+bottle and letting gravity do the work).

I'm a sidesleeper, and I'm usually cold - the NeoAir X-Lite is by far the warmest and most comfortable sleep pad I've ever had.

Stove-wise, I just use a tiny, folding 25g titanium screw-on FOME stove I bought on Amazon. I only use a 600ml titanium mug as a pot, so it doesn't take much fuel to bring water to a boil. This is my third year with that stove, and I absolutely love it.

u/bosun120 · 2 pointsr/PacificCrestTrail

Still comes with that giant ridiculous syringe that everyone throws away.

Sawyer should just concede, partner up with CNOC, and package their filter with the following accessories & call it a day:

u/St_NickelStew · 2 pointsr/Ultralight

If you go that route, consider also getting and using the Sawyer backflush collar ( This allows water bottle to be connected to "out" end of the filter. With filter threaded onto CNOC bladder, all you have to do is hold the bladder and roll the top to squeeze water into bottle. Wish I had had this during my last hike! Without it, you have to hold both the bladder and bottle.

u/BecauseSometimesY · 2 pointsr/Ultralight
u/Leodogg · 2 pointsr/backpacking

Nothing easier than a cnoc 2 liter bag and a sawyer squeeze. Literally fill up the bag, attach it to the filter and squeeze clean water into your bottle or whatever. Total package will set you back less than $50.

No need to carry separate water for cooking. Just use the filtered water.

Edit: links

u/Chewmon34 · 2 pointsr/Ultralight

I just bought this water bag to use with my squeeze, hoping it works for easy filling and gravity feed. Haven't had it in the field yet. Vecto 2L Water Container and Bladder

u/voodoodollbaby · 1 pointr/preppers

here's the tourniquet I use in the field.

I have a lot of redundancy for water, but my favorite system is the katadyn pocket. It's pricy and one of the heavier items I carry at a pound and a half, but it's got a 20 year warranty and 50,000 liter filtration capacity (more if you take care of it).

u/Central_Incisor · 1 pointr/BuyItForLife

For 20$ I might have to give the Sawyer Mini a try, but I would be hard pressed to rely on it the way I do with my Katadyn system.

u/proggR · 1 pointr/politics

I've actually made a point to start scoping out areas in town that I would go during certain events. Zombie apocalypse? I'd book it to the ferry with a supply of canned food, soil and vegetable seeds, along with a water purifier. I'd then drive to the middle of the lake and park it there. I can come back in for supplies as I need, but for the most part I'm parked in the middle of the water.

Military, I'm not 100% sure. I'd definitely want more people with me for the military than for zombies. Zombies I just want to survive and can camp pretty well untouched. The same plan wouldn't work as well for living people and I'd need to be able to be more mobile.

Anyone in Kingston, ON want to make a plan?

u/MrBabycake · 1 pointr/guns

A 12" Stanley Wonderbar, Katadyn Base Camp, Kabar Straight Edge Knife, fire steel, Star Flash signal mirror, food, and other miscellaneous stuff.

u/LucidOneironaut · 1 pointr/hiking

I can't honestly give you one because I haven't used it. However, I think it would be ideal for what you're doing. Just top it off every time you see water. Check out the reviews on Amazon

I have this: It has great reviews. I like a lot, it packs up relatively small and you get a shitload of water

These filters are highly effective & super convenient. Go to REI or something and check them out

u/Samuel_I · 1 pointr/backpacking

This. Katadyn Base Camp Water Filter. What's cool about it is that it uses gravity to filter the water. You fill it up, hang it from a tree, and then have the tube fill something up (bladder, bottles, canteen, etc.) while you go about other tasks. Excellent time/effort saver. I probably would avoid using it on stagnant water except in an emergency, but it wprked splendidly on all the lakes and creeks we found. Excellent product. Makes your life so much easier with no pumping or drops of purifier. Also, keeps that natural water taste as well.

u/obie_wankenobie · 1 pointr/Random_Acts_Of_Amazon

Water purification tablets are a godsend. They're lighter than bottles of water, and are chemically designed to keep you from getting sick. If nothing else, bring those along.

Also, bring sunscreen! Nothing is more miserable than a bad sunburn.

When it comes to food, be careful with how you handle it. Someone mentioned Jiffypop, and it reminded me of the time when my mom spilled a little on the ground, and then a family of raccoons decided to attack us. So, just be careful with accidentally dropping food.

I'd also look up and make a list/map of doctors, hospitals, and stores nearby, and know how long it'd take you to get to each one. I know the plan is to be roughing it, but if you forget something majorly important (like, bugspray) it's easier to find it if you already have the directions ready to go. And the doctors/hospitals? Well, that's just a safety thing. It helps to have even if you don't use it, because if you know the nearest hospital is an hour and a half drive away, you're going to be a hell of a lot more careful than if you assumed it was 20 min.

I'm assuming people know where you're going, but make sure to tell someone who isn't going where exactly you're going, and when you should come back and stuff. If you go missing, someone will know all the relevant information that may help save your life.

I hope you have a great time!

u/wunami · 1 pointr/EDC

The brown things are probably the water purification tablets (as in iodine). The other bottle is probably ascorbic acid (which helps remove the iodine taste). It's probably this, repackaged.

u/dudeasaurusrex · 1 pointr/kilimanjaro

What group are you going with? All of the water we got on my trek was boiled by the tour company we were with. That being said, you should be fine with the same kind of purification tablets you'd use for any other camping trip. I've always used Potable Aqua tablets - you should be able to find them at your local camping/outdoor store. I took some with me on my trek, but never needed to use them.

u/Rebootkid · 1 pointr/funny

Enh. give me my purification tablets, and pretty much, yeah. I use these when camping, and have ingested some.. questionable.. water

Although, if you carry a water bottle with a built in carbon filter, after using these tablets, it does make things much more palatable.

u/spotdog14 · 1 pointr/preppers

I have a question about the Toledo water issue. Would you still be able to filter the tap water with a conventional backpacking filter such as the MSR Miniworks?

u/Bellski · 1 pointr/CampingGear

This thing literally saved my life once. I cannot recommend it enough.

MSR MiniWorks EX Microfilter Water Filter

u/Hopefully_helps · 1 pointr/bugout

i had snagged this for my BOB
MSR MiniWorks EX
and also
Nalgene 96Oz canteen

been pretty pleased with the ease of field cleaning, and quality of the filtering

u/justryde · 1 pointr/pitchforkfest

They sell something similar to these at Binny's:
I have never been patted down there, so stuff one of these badboys down your pants.

u/Frogstool · 1 pointr/funny

I'm pretty sure what you actually need is one of these: Refillable plastic flasks

u/molrobocop · 1 pointr/AdviceAnimals
u/Wonderbeat · 1 pointr/trailmeals

These are worth taking note of: rum runners

I love mine!

u/RobieFLASH · 1 pointr/Coachella

I purchased these lil plastic flask and bring them with me every time, they work like a charm, never leak

u/cdube85 · 1 pointr/Seattle

Rum Runners There are a ton of sizes on Amazon. I've seen them work great for everything from cruises to sporting events. You won't get them for today, but good resource for the season.

u/ChooChoo_Mofo · 1 pointr/DIY

Totally agree, it's not worth it. I've done this too and not only did it take forever to get ready, the alcohol just tasted like mouthwash. Couldn't drink any of it, so if I wanted to drink on the cruise I had to buy alcohol anyway. Get [these] ( instead. A little more expensive, but then you don't waste the alcohol or time. I've used the above and it worked like a charm.

u/_KKK_ · 1 pointr/videos

Actually no sir, none of that is needed with something like this. (absolutely worth the money if you go on long wilderness trips)

Never use a cheap filter like Brita, unless you are going to boil and add tablets. Those kinds of filters are only changing the taste, not the safety of the water.

u/Antistotle · 1 pointr/Fitness


I have one of these in the civilization's collapsing kit:


But maybe a couple of these for just in case.


u/coreyf · 1 pointr/camping

Here ya go! I assume he/she is referring to one of these. This one is awesome. Very light and compact. Turns even dirty water in to tasty drinkable water. The replaceable filter is good for around 600 liters, which for me is good for about 10 years. Easy to use and eliminates all dangers except for viruses, which generally are not a problem in North America.

You can buy chlorine tablets to add if you're concerned about viruses, but they make the water taste funny and are unnecessary IMO.

u/genericdude999 · 1 pointr/camping

> Any tips for keeping warm?

Don't rely on regular blankets for a winter camping trip. Get a decent 20 F sleeping bag and also a cheap rectangular 40 F bag. Unzip the 40 and have ready to use as a quilt on top if you get cold in the middle of the night.

For the day, consider some synthetic thermal underwear and a pair of wool socks. Cover your ears. Warm gloves. Dirt cheap at Walmart.

> What do I do if it rains?

Get an inexpensive but not flimsy poncho so you don't get soaked if it starts raining while you're out hiking. I like to use with a baseball cap to keep rain off my face.

> I do have a propane grill, but not sure if I can use that.

Consider a simple single burner propane stove. Not butane. Butane is for warm weather. Or just take Sterno and two bricks (set on edge in an L shape) to block the wind and prop up your pot. I'm serious. Sterno is a practically effortless simple way to cook, just a little slower than propane.

> Should I bring a cooler? With ice? how long will that last?

Yes, bring a cooler. Get some gallon size Ziplocs, fill with water, and freeze them solid a couple days before you leave. Put them in the bottom of the cooler, then food and drinks, then ice cubes to fill in. Should last three days.

Consider a 5 gallon jug with a tap if there is no running water at your campground.

Enjoy! Car camping is not that dangerous. You can just pack up and go home if the weather turns bad.

u/CSnarf · 1 pointr/BurningMan
u/tulameen · 1 pointr/LosAngeles

Alright here we what I got, I tried to price compare and review compare. Some stuff may be better elsewhere but it's what I went with regardless.

There are some products that I already have from camping so I didn't feel the need to double up. I also plan on supplementing the packs with more food and obviously water as well as medicine, change of clothes and a few other things. I also plan on adding a few things to the medkit, more aspirin, some more realistic materials as well. So all in all I felt this was a pretty solid starter survival kit for most situations. Just something to grab for a few days if shit hits the fan. It's going in my truck where some other camping gear already is (Axe, shovel, wd-40, lighters, mace, knives)

Only product I would buy differently would be the backpack. I didn't realize it ships from China, I'd only buy somewhere else due to the 1 month shipping time. (I didn't catch that initially) there's some decent similarly priced backpacks available elsewhere that will be at your door within a few days.

$13 - S.O.S. Rations Emergency 3600 Calorie Food Bar - 2 Pack -

$3 SE 6-in-1 Survival Whistle

$6 ER Emergency Ready Thermal Mylar Blankets, Pack of 4

$40 Ambient Weather Emergency Solar Hand Crank AM/FM/NOAA Digital Radio, Flashlight, Cell Phone Charger

$8 Potable Aqua Water Treatment Tablets

$9 8' X 10' Blue Multi-Purpose 6-mil Waterproof Poly Tarp Cover 8x10 Tent Shelter Camping Tarpaulin by Grizzly Tarps

$6 Survivor HK-106320 Outdoor Fixed Blade Knife 7 Overall WITH FIRE STARTER

$9 5038-3 PK Fix-It DUCTape 1.87-Inches x 60-Yards, 7-Mil, 3-Pack

$40 Outt(TM) Sport Outdoor Military Rucksacks Compact Assault Pack Camping Hiking Trekking Bag

$32 Fully Stocked MOLLE Tactical Trauma Kit First Aid Pouch

$5 550lbs. Military Paracord Type III Rope 100' Foliage Green

Total price for everything: $171 Probably spend another 30 or less on food/water/extras

u/noironeezy · 1 pointr/AskReddit

iodine tablets

Did this when spending a week hiking/camping in Kentucky. We'd just fill up our water bottle in the river/stream and then throw in a couple tabs. Made the water taste a little funny, but noone in our group suffered from any diarrhea or vomiting the entire trip.

If you have the time/tools, boiling is probably the way to go.

u/AppalachianDm · 1 pointr/Silverbugs

Here is all you need to not worry, pal!




For water!

For Shelter!



More Fire!

u/trs100 · 1 pointr/CampingandHiking

I was looking at these for water treatment maybe instead of the sawyer, just to save some money
Potable Aqua Water Purification Tablets (50 Tablets)

u/SomeChicagoan · 1 pointr/bugout

OK, thanks for the advice. I'm definitely going to add the 550 cord. Pepper spray is another good defensive option that isn't banned in the People's Republic of Chicago. You've also sold me on the stainless steel canteen, so consider that and some water purification tablets added, too.

u/adamdecaf · 1 pointr/DoesAnybodyElse

There are many {#1, #2, #3} cheap water purification tablets that when paired with propel mix-ins provide a great and clean taste. That is if you're worried about the quality/taste of the water from a tap.

I've found that these work great on a trip, they are less expensive (long run) than bottled water.

u/TurningLane · 1 pointr/Random_Acts_Of_Amazon

Aqua! (You know, the band that sang the Barbie song? .."Im a barbie girl, in a barbie woooooooorld, dressed in plastic, its fantastic!" ... i can't believe i just sang that.. oye... lol

Potable Aqua Water Treatment Tablets

u/RhapsodyInRude · 1 pointr/preppers

I've got a stack of these, filled:

This model previously had a pretty weak spout that was easy to break if you handle it with the spout out (it's normally stowed on the inside of the screw-cap).

These containers are to get our household of 3 people through a short-term problem.

On top of that, I have a Sawyer Squeeze and a Platypus gravity filter system:

These are for medium-term use. I've also got a map of fresh water reservoirs nearby.

And, last, but not least -- purification tablets since they're cheap and very portable.

For me, none of it feels like wasted money. I also camp and hike, so the filtration gear gets used for that as well.

u/skyshadow42 · 1 pointr/sanfrancisco

Water cubes are cheap, stackable and can be stored away from your house. The water heater trick is great unless your house burns down or it tips over the ruptures.

They sell stabilization kits that'll keep the water drinkable for 5+ years, also not expensive. Just remember to label them with the date and set a reminder to refill them.

u/redditbeccag · 1 pointr/ZeroWaste

I would recommend a water storage container like this: Reliance Products Aqua-Tainer 7 Gallon Rigid Water Container
When you get back home you can continue using it to store water for a 72 hour emergency kit in case of hurricanes, etc.

u/SifuSeafood · 1 pointr/shrimptank

I got the 4 stage 50 GPD and it's been good so far.

I only have a 7 gallon and 9 gallon tank. So, I don't need much for water changes and top-offs.

I have a 7 gallon jug with a spigot which makes dispensing it very easy. I fill two 1 gallon jugs throughout the week for top offs and water changes.

It takes about 2.5 hours to fill the 7 gal. It varies with temperature.

I've heard you can get resin for the DI cartridge and save a lot more money that way versus replacing the cart each time.

Oh yeah, I use this faucet adapter instead of the included one. If your faucet is compatible, it makes connecting and storing so quick if you need this kind of solution.

u/theGalation · 1 pointr/Homebrewing

I have a cheap old mini fridge from Craigslist. I didn't feel like ripping it up just to fit a bucket so I bought a 7 gal water aquatainer. My first batch is running now but I've seen older posts of people successfully using it.

u/heygreatcomment · 1 pointr/NorthCarolina

Yeah I am actually on a well now but I don't drink that water either. Too close too the river. I like to buy water and store it in something like this

u/ktg0 · 1 pointr/pics

Lots of us planned to do that, however all of the large water storage containers are also sold out locally, on backorder on Amazon, or Amazon is allowing price gouging on the containers that are available. Check out these aquatainers that normally sell for ~$15: Reliance Products Aqua-Tainer 7 Gallon Rigid Water Container

u/isolatedvirus · 1 pointr/pics

Why? Because she bought all the water? Its first come first serve. Sure, a little compassion would always be nice but you should never expect people to show it, especially during an emergency.

The fact is: If seeing this pisses you off, you're woefully unprepared yourself. Most Americans don't even have the FEMA recommended amount of supplies, and wait until something is imminent before doing anything. This is why stores are flat out of stock and its a giant shit show. If you'd spend time/money on basic emergency preparedness (and were prepared yourself) you'd be looking at this photo and instead of getting angry at the woman buying all the water, you'd worry for the obviously under prepared.

Water doesn't need to be in a bottle to be clean. You can filter/sanitize it yourself if need be, but most tap water is absolutely fine.

Here are some solutions for water in an emergency:

WaterBOB Emergency Drinking Water Storage (100 Gallons)

New Wave Envrio Products BPA Free Bottle, 5-Gallon

Reliance Products Aqua-Tainer 7 Gallon Rigid Water Container

If all else fails, get a steel cup and a bunch of those butane/propane camping fuel sources. You can boil your own water. Filters can and do work, but I usually don't recommend them unless youre willing to at least read how they work, and what they can/can't filter. I never recommend the iodine tablets for water purification unless its an absolute emergency.

u/Sehc · 1 pointr/vandwellers

I used a marine type freshwater pump that lifts the water. Needs power. Other wise get a diferant reliance can with pipe thread in the cap.

u/mrthedon · 1 pointr/Homebrewing

I tried "No Chill" brewing this weekend using an HDPE Aqua-Tainer as my container. After transferring the hot wort and squeezing the air out as recommended by a few of the guides I read, I let it sit overnight to cool and then transferred to the fermenter. The container seems to have retained its "squeezed all the air out" shape though and looks all deformed, however.

Will it eventually regain its original shape, or have I managed to ruin it somehow and need to toss it? Am I going to die if I drink the final product due to something harmful being released when the container got all deformed?

u/duluth55811 · 1 pointr/SuperiorHikingTrail

thanks for the reply!

I've been looking at the Sawyer PointOne Squeeze Though i've been seeing some having problems with their bags leaking for this model, but doesnt seem to be a major issue. It is though, a lot cheaper than the GravityWorks .. but i must agree, the look and ease of the gravityworks makes me want to spend the extra cash to get it.

u/chrisbluemonkey · 1 pointr/outdoorgear

Thank you. Its funny but I didn't really look at the size on the non personal ones because I assumed they'd be much bigger. I'm assuming that you're referring to this product, right?

u/crick2017 · 1 pointr/preppers

Check here:

Mini was also on sale at 14 dollars. But now it is 19.99 for orange model. If you wait and follow the product it would again fall to 14 bucks in Cyber Monday Week.

u/nekidfrog · 1 pointr/pics

Per Amazon it has a 1 million gallon guarantee warranty. I don't see myself using 1 million gallons through it during MY lifetime... maybe I'm not hardcore enough :(

Heck even through Sawyer's website themselves, list it as having a 1 million gallon guarantee warranty.

u/_rather_be_outside · 1 pointr/Yosemite

As far as practicing for it, just go hiking somewhere local as much as possible.

As far as what to bring on the actual half dome hike, there are definitely some mandatory things:

  1. Water- bring more than you think you will need. I also HIGHLY reccomend picking up a sawyer squeeze. That way you don't have to carry as much water at any given time, and its not the end of the world if you drink all your water as you can refill. Just be strategic and make sure you have plenty of water at any given time.

  2. Food- bring lots of high calorie snacks. Bring more than you think you need. Things like energy bars and trail mix have lots of calories and don't take up too much space.

  3. Sun Protection- Definitely a hat and sunscreen. Lots of people, myself included like the hiking specific sun protective clothing, and its worth checking out if you think you'll be getting into hiking.

  4. Layers- its an all day hike in the sierra, the weather can change, you can be out while it starts to get cool. Bring at least a fleece layer and a waterproof/ windproof layer. You don't have to spend a lot of money on either of these items.

  5. Headlamp or flashlight. You probably will be getting back before dark, but just in case you get held up, its good to carry some sort of light source.

  6. appropriate footwear- people like different things so I won't recommend trail runners over hiking boots or vice versa, but I will say that whatever you pick should be comfortable to YOU. Try on different things and make sure you like them. Also, make sure you pick a shoe that is meant for the trail, not the sidewalk, trail shoes or boots will have noticeably better grip walking up and down half dome. Also make sure that you have enough room for your toes. Your toes should not be running into the front of your shoes when walking downhill. Also, get a nice pair of hiking socks. Your feet will thank you.

  7. Basic first aid kit- definitely have a way to deal with blisters and small cuts as those are the most common injuries. You can carry more stuff if that is something that you want to do and if you are interested, I can tell you what is in my kit.

  8. Just note that there are more things that can be considered "essential", and depending on where you are hiking they may be super important to bring. The above list is just top of my head what I would say someone should definitely have on the half dome hike.

    Some optional things are:

  9. An extra pair of socks. It can feel soooo nice to let your feet air out mid hike and then put on a fresh, dry pair.

  10. Trekking poles. They really save your joints going downhill!

  11. A more exhaustive emergency kit. The half dome hike is really well travelled, so if you have an issue, there will be people around that can help, but if you are going to get more into hiking after this, it can't hurt to start learning about how to handle wilderness emergencies.

    Things to keep in mind regarding hiking anywhere:
    An experienced hiker can look at the distance and elevation change, as well as the starting elevation of a hike, and immediately have a rough idea of how hard the hike will be for THEM. To build this skill, pay attention to the stats on the hikes you are doing. Also pay attention to how the weather affects your ability to hike. Extreme heat and cold both present challenges and require proper preparations.

    Whenever traveling to a new place, take the time to read up on the regulations for that place, specifically regarding best Leave No Trace (LNT) practices for the area and about staying safe around the wildlife for that area- in general, never approach wildlife, but there are also things you can do to minimize having a negative encounter with an animal that you should be aware of- these best practices will often be different depending on where you are and what wildlife lives in that area.
u/GoneWithYourMom · 1 pointr/PKA

Have you used something like this: I bought it but haven't used it yet. Aren't they very good with a great price?

u/soil_nerd · 1 pointr/backpacking

This product comes up a lot, and almost every time someone says the sawer squeeze is better. I have the mini sawer, and it works great, screws into water bottles and 2-liters, can backflush to keep it clean, has a super small pore size, is lightweight. I've never used a life straw though, so maybe I'm missing something.

u/Oreoloveboss · 1 pointr/CampingGear

In my experience 'squeezing' doesn't work unless it's into your mouth from a water bottle, or using the small 500ml dirty bags Saywer provides, which then is a PITA because they're so small. With the bigger bags (I even have the 2Gal sawyer bag) they don't squeeze well and you run into air/vacuum issues while trying to do so. Squeezing also isn't much faster, it's going to take a couple minutes either way to filter 2l so it's much more convenient to let gravity do the work.

If I were you I'd buy the Saywer Squeeze or mini + inline adapters ($5) and then get a cheap platypus 3l (a 2l bladder will never fit exactly 2L in it, you'd always be short a little, but you can always fill a 3L one to 2.25l or something. Platypus has a built in handle you can hook up to a tree or something, and with the hose + adapters just screw the other end right on to the smartwater bottle and leave it on the ground- this way you don't have to worry about leaks or overflowing, you can just come back to it when it's full. lift the bottle up above the platypus, unscrew it and then screw on the next bottle and put it back down on the ground.

It would look like this but just imagine instead of going into another bladder that was one of your smartwater bottles on the ground.

I do something similar except i gravity from the 2gal saywer bag (also built in handle) into my platypus and then into my partners smartwater bottles since our system is communal and she prefers bottles to bladders.

u/ttbblog · 1 pointr/CampingGear

Sawyer Squeeze is only 20.69 right now.

u/VerySuperGenius · 1 pointr/Ice_Poseidon

LifeStraws are shit.

They should have gotten Sawyer filters. They come with a bag you can fill with water then you screw the filter into it and drink it. Much better.

u/Captain-Kielbasa · 1 pointr/CampingandHiking

I have a good eye :)

Apologies for the wall of text, but I tend to ramble on topics that I'm passionate about, hopefully some of the ramble below will help.

Which Inflatable pad do you have, I'm guessing you're a side or stomach sleeper like myself?

I have the Klymit kings static V inflatable pad, I like that it packs really small and it's very light weight, but it's not entirely comfortable for side sleeping or stomach sleeping. I did once camp with my tent on sand and this was comfortable, but on regular dirt it's not.

I then tried the REI camp bed 3.5 self inflating pad. It's a self inflating pad which is a hybrid between a foam and an inflatable. At 3.5" thick, it's incredibly comfortable for side & stomach sleeping, but the drawback is weight (~5lbs) and it does not pack down small, I have to strap it to the outside of my pack.

If you are a similar sleeper like myself, you may want to check out hammock camping. I picked up an ENO double nest for just relaxing around camp or in the back yard at home and found it to be the most comfortable naps I've taken outdoors. While I can't sleep on my stomach, side sleeping is very comfortable and I actually fall asleep on my back which is unheard of. I'm not saying to run out and buy a full hammock camping set up, but maybe at the next REI garage sale, see if there is a really cheap ENO double nest and straps and give it a try in the back yard, you may want to convert afterwards :)


Headlamps? As in more than one? + a lantern? If I may suggest an alternative / weight savings..... This year I switched over to using a Olight S1 Mini baton because I always hike with a hat and the double clip allows it to slide right on the brim. It's also incredibly light weight and has several light levels. The back cap is also magnetic, so when tent camping, it sticks to the tent poles, for hammock camping I just hang it on the ridge line by the clip. The lowest level is 5 lumens I believe, which is dim but more than enough to see your foot placement on the trail at night. It also has the strobe setting which can come in handy if you find yourself in trouble to disorient an individual or an animal. (your post above mentions the fear of being a solo hiking woman, so this would be a good tool in conjunction with a decent knife). While it doesn't have a red filter, there are tons of youtube videos on how to make your own red filter cap for night vision savings.


A Camelbak is always a must have for me, I get dehydrated quickly, so I carry the 3L version. I also carry a smart water bottle on the exterior side pocket of my atmos. Reason being is they are significantly lighter than a nalgene or other plastic bottles on the market and they're very very cheap to replace. Also, you can use this bottle for water enhancers such as Mio, crystal light, or a hydration powder, without risking an issue to your Camalbak. I've found having Mio on a trip is a great mental pick me up when it's hot and I'm tired.

I have not used a life straw, but for any overnight or distance trip, a must have for me is my Sawyer filter and 1 squeeze bag. I went with the Sawyer because it will allow me to refill the giant 3L Camelbak with this adapter without digging out the Camelbak, (see the 4th picture down). The squeeze bag is for dirty water only, so I do not have to worry about dirty water contamination with other items. Lastly, with this adapter I don't have to bring the syringe to clean it, this adapter's threads will fit the smart water bottle, or a coke bottle, and allow me to flush out the filter. While I've yet to have to flush it on a trip, it's a good thing to have for after the trip and cleaning things.


I used to have a few must have items, but recently I've been weeding them out to save weight. Most of them are comfort items and I am the individual who packs with the mindset of "what if this happens.....", so I tend to pack things I rarely use. I really love having a warm meal, so my Jetboil is usually a staple. Since it is a gas burning stove, I could (in a survival situation) use it to boil water or start a fire to keep warm. However, foods can be re-hydrated with cold water, it might take longer and not be as delicious, but it saves the weight of the jetboil and I have the sawyer for clean water anyway, and a small bic lighter is a fraction of the weight, so I've done without it on the last few trips.

I've moved on to the mentality of packing items that are multi-purpose, try to cut out any redundancies to save weight. While I am no where near being considered ultralight, I've started incorporating their ideals into my packing to help out. You may want to check out their subreddit.

My buddy Scott is the one I always go to for questions related to backpacking/ hiking, he's been doing it far longer than I have, and seems to always be ahead on the new gear or techniques. He started a blog recently on his findings and tips/suggestions, it may be worth a look: Hack your pack

Hopefully this ramble helps!

u/goundo · 1 pointr/hiking

So, I think you are a bit crazy on the water treatment. I know a bunch of people who don't treat their water at all - lighter pack weight, less things to keep track of, no hassle with getting water. Besides, drinking untreated water is how people lived for all of human history, minus the past hundred years. Millions of people still drink untreated water regularly, and while this is a significant cause of death in developing nations, in most developed nations (and developing nations if you have money) you will not die from a water borne illnesses as long as you reach definitive medical treatment withing a reasonable time frame.

That said, I do still treat my water. Sawyer filters are all the rage now. 1 million gallons guaranteed, and for $35. No laborious pumping, no scrubbing a ceramic filter when it clogs, no replacing filter cartridges. It also fits on the most universal bottle threading, so you don't even need to use the bag it comes with - you can screw it on a smart water bottle, a pepsi bottle, or even put it inline with the tube on a platypus bladder. Oh, and you can force water through any way you want: squeezing, sucking, or gravity. Only downside: you can't let it freeze, which also applies to ceramic filters.

Sorry if this sounds like an ad for Sawyer. I just like them a lot.

u/Artyom33 · 1 pointr/preppers

I can tell you that almost every thru-hiker (hiker who does >1,000 miles continuously in ~3-5 months) on the Appalachian Trail uses a Sawyer Squeeze filter ($30) for their water purification needs and they use it daily to purify water from back country sources like streams and creeks and it works reliably for thousands of gallons with some periodic backflushing (equipment provided). Most thru-hikers carry 2L of water or less (for weight) and just frequently refill at water sources they cross. During my section-hike, I carried a Sawyer Mini and had some issues with the gaskets separating from the unit, causing leaks of the dirty water but only onto the ground - you will know if dirty water has leaked to the clean water side. The hikers I encountered told me that this was less of an issue with the Sawyer Squeeze. Highly suggested. Scroll down on the linked page to read about the technology, filtration efficiency and limitations.

Still, two is one and one is none - so I also carried Aquamira liquid purification drops.

u/maxillo · 1 pointr/preppers

You will be happy i found a bargain of $33!

u/PhoenixEnigma · 1 pointr/lightweight

I use a 1.8L Platypus Hoser, since I've found that if I don't use a hydration bladder, I tend not to drink enough water to keep hydrated if it's above about 5C, but I am generally hiking pretty close to water sources and don't need to carry a ton. I've solved the annoying refill issue with the fast fill adapters for my Sawyer filter. Total weight penalty vs a pair of clean SmartWater bottles is on the order of 40g, and I get the benefits of a gravity feed setup when filtering into my bladder. The bladder itself weighs 40g, the tube/mouthpiece/quick disconnects add up to 71g, plus whatever the filter and dirty water container of your choice are. I've stuck with the Sawyer bags (23g for 16oz), because I have them, and if you're gravity feeding instead of squeezing the hell out of them, they're plenty durable.

The only drawback is that a small bit of air works its way into the system with every refill, and you have to deal with that every couple of days to keep a decent usable capacity. I consider it a small price to pay.

u/wilfordbrimley1 · 1 pointr/DIY

I use this quick disconnect on the drink tube of my hydration pack to make it easier to fill w/ filtered water:

I have an Osprey pack, but it should work w/ a Camelbak assuming that the tubing diameter is similar.

u/ldt003 · 1 pointr/assholedesign

DUDE! These caps are the best! Get yourself a sawyer mini like this. They fit those caps perfectly! I think it’s the reason smartwater is dominating the premium water market. Because backpackers keep buying them up.

u/matthewrozon · 1 pointr/backpacking

You do not have to spend a lot. Here are some suggestions that I choose to use even though I could spend the money on more expensive gear.

Pack: Rent until you decide you want to do this a lot and have already bought the rest of your gear

Tent: rent it for this trip if you don't already have one. If you do, it's best to split it up, poles and fly for you and tent for him or vice versa

Sleeping bags, bring them if you have them or rent

Stove: Works just as well as the 50$ one.

Water filter: cheap, durable, no moving parts to worry about and it's super light

Pot: A lot of people use this, but it might be a bit small for you depending on what kind of food you're going to cook but this works well for freezer bag meals

Long Johns and other clothing: Walmart usually has decent options. Make sure that they are synthetic. You may find that you already have a few things if you look through your clothes at home. Depending how thick they are your snowboarding socks might make good hiking socks or if you have long underwear for snowboarding they would be useful camping.

What are you doing for shoes? Do not waste money on boots if you don't already have them. 90% of trails can be done in good running shoes and 95% of trails can be done in light hiking shoes.

Misc hints: For water bottles just re-use old gatorade bottles, those nalgenes are super heavy. Think about getting two hiking poles instead of just walking stick but this is a preference thing. Avoid cotton at all costs and have fun!

u/keepsharp · 1 pointr/CampingandHiking

Try the Sawyer Mini! Its half the weight, and $21 on amazon.

u/VGooseV · 1 pointr/backpacking

+1 on the sawyer mini. It works like a champ.

u/alphasixtwo · 1 pointr/Survival

Starter knife look at the Buck Nighthawk(you dont need the tops version.) Amazing knife well priced and near indestructible. The choice of steel also makes it fairly easy to sharpen.

The one thing Sukram 85 is missing is a water filter. All you need though is a cheap basic one like the life straw or the sawyer mini.

I saw go with the sawyer. The price is similar but it will last way longer and can be used in line with a water bladder.

Don't use a plastic water bottle. Try and find one with made with steel(not aluminum) then you can boil water in it too in case you don't have your filter on you or the filter broke.

u/rukiddingdood · 1 pointr/LosAngeles

Might I suggest people check out this or a similar water filter for such emergencies. Could really be a lifesaver.

u/NATOMarksman · 1 pointr/zombies

The [Sawyer Mini water filter] ( is smaller, can be screwed onto standard disposable plastic water bottles, and is capable of filtering far more water since you can reuse it. If you pick up a [stainless steel water bottle] (, you can boil water in it as well.

You should always have a backup when it's a survival situation; [Israeli water purification tablets] ( will both look legit and be legit if she actually needs to use them.

There are always more items you might add to a first aid kit, but [this one is pretty well rounded] ( If you want a cheaper base kit (i.e if you want to add your own items), [this other kit] ( will also do the job.

Battery-free lights can be good, but AA batteries are common enough that a [good tactical light that takes AAs] ( might be a more convenient option.

If she has a tablet (if tablet, go for the 12W) or E-reader (7W), [solar power might be an option] ( With [rechargeable AA batteries] ( and a [USB recharger] (, the flashlight and any other AA device (like a [small, separate radio] ( could work indefinitely, as well as any regular USB-charged device.

[ResQme] ( may not be strictly zombie-related, but if you buckled up as per Rule #4, you may want a way to quickly exit your vehicle if your seatbelt jams and the windows and door won't open normally.

There are a lot of compasses out there, but [this one] ( is simple, reliable, and won't break easily. It's also designed to be laid over maps without getting in the way of reading them.

[Pocket chainsaw] ( Won't be useful against zombies, but if you ever needed to cut a tree or thick branches and don't want to carry an axe...

...You can also carry a [hatchet] ( instead. This one has a short blade, which will cut into their heads and not get stuck like others. It'll also do a fine job cutting smaller branches.

For non-zombie/woodwork related tasks, the [Victorinox Forester] ( has your bases covered.

You should also include World War Z (the book, and the movie if you'd prefer), I Am Legend (both the book and the film), and the Walking Dead series (TV, comics, and both seasons of the Telltale game series on Steam).

u/JoeIsHereBSU · 1 pointr/preppers

Sawyer Mini is much better IMO. For BOBs I would suggest a gravity fed system like Sawyer SP160.

u/Flagrant_Geek · 1 pointr/CampingGear

The closest thing I used to a life straw is the "Soldier water filter". An ultra small membrane type filter built inside a real tiny hand pump.

While it worked incredibly well as a filter, as a pumping device it sucked. Took circa 30 minutes of minutia pumping while crouched by a water source to suck up a single liter of water.

To me those straw, look more like a last resort type of water filter for similar reasons. They probably work well as a filter but are rather tedious to use. They have a truly limited use scenario.

Also because of it's method of use you are likely not to be fully hydrated as you will likely not drink as much as actually needed for long hikes in hot weather, as it's designed to be only used at the water source. Water sources can be rather far apart. Good sucking skills are also required.

I have images in my head of sucking that straw until I turn blue with my face suspended a few inches above the lake or river bank attempting to suck water then sliding and falling into the water while simply attempting to have a drink.

I don't know about you but it seems likely to produce some rather comical photo opportunities for other hikers while simply attempting to get a drink.

I personally used the Katadyn 6L base camp water filter (The revised Version #2) and found it an amazing high speed device that allowed me to filter enough water to fill my 3L bladder and cook dinner and breakfast as well as provide water for other hikers with me. This each and every night at base camp. This in a mater of minutes. it filters really fast. An entire days supply only takes minutes.

Aside this I would perhaps consider the Sawyer squeeze filter, which is somewhat similar but designed for smaller quantities of water. You don't have to suck until you turn blue.

Simply fill bag and squeeze, Around a liter per squeeze bags and is about the size of a life straw while stored in your bag. This is the real economical yet highly functional solution. Small, compact. The only draw back is you have to do this multiple times a day. Other than that it's the perfect kit.

Katadyn and a few others make better hand pump type water filter that are more usable than what I had. However they are truly cost prohibitive and I personally cant see why pay this much makes sense for me.

In the end for me it's a gravity filter, less work, fast, more quantity per water pull from lakes and rivers and fast easy filtering. It is a real blessing to have ease of use, when tired and having to setup camp and prep food etc. I cant say a single bad thing about that filter, yet.

Albeit I have read some rather bad reviews on the same filter I use, but so far it's not my experience with them. Not a single issue ever...

u/Gffcom · 1 pointr/Documentaries

Man, it must feel great to be that self righteous!

To bad it won’t last. This will give you 100,000 potable gallons for 20 bucks.

u/langzaiguy · 1 pointr/camping

Water purity concerns are for bacteria, viruses, protozoa, and chemicals/contaminants. In the past, I've used a Steripen with good results. It protects against the first three dangers. I recently bought one of these but haven't tried it yet:

It only protects against bacteria and protozoa. If you're going to the Boundary Waters, I think that would be your primary concern. When I did my portaging trip there, we drank untreated water from the middle of lakes. Probably a baaad idea, but my point is that the water quality is generally pretty good there.

u/defeldus · 1 pointr/drumcorps

Related note for anyone that hates dealing with nasty tap water, I use one of these for hiking but you could easily take it on tour (it's the size of your palm) and always have safe and clean tasting water for $20.

u/Brute1100 · 1 pointr/CampingandHiking

Yes it is. One of the cheapest and also one of the highest filtration ratings on the market. The regular has like a 4 oz field weight. The mini is like 2-3 oz.

u/vibeee · 1 pointr/coloradohikers

Thank you so much. Thank you taking your time to explain it to me.

I have this Sawyer. I think we might have drank some water from one of the lakes in Titans but we survived that without getting sick. We also mostly boiled it as it was really cold outside(October).

I'm definitely going to get the tablets for treating. It sounds it's good to have them in your pack.

Lastly, which USGS maps do you use? I just went to their website and I am kinda lost. I have been buying the National Geographic maps where ever I go. Are those good enough? Would they show mining sites?

Thanks again. I really appreciate you typing all of this. It's super helpful.

u/brighamthediggler · 1 pointr/LifeProTips

Sawyer water filter

Have one in my kit and it has been extremely useful.

u/Shibbyman24 · 1 pointr/CampingGear

My wishlist for this year:

  • ZPacks 900 Fill Down - Lightest warmest 900 fill down sleeping bag on the market and for a reasonable price! Sadly I can't afford it for my 6 month bicycle tour that I'm going on this year :'( I'm stuck lugging around a 4lb synthetic sleeping bag that takes up about 25L of volume - If I had the ZPack sleeping bag I wouldn't need a front rack and two front panniers which would save me considerable weight as well.

  • Ortlieb Folding Bowl 5L - This folding bowl serves multiple purposes and can be used for doing laundry, washing dishes, washing smelly feet, and can even be used reverse side for food prep.

  • Sawyer Mini Water Filtration System - Most versatile compact water filtration system (I don't really need this one yet but it will come in handy for future trips outside of North America)

  • Keen Commuter 3 - Hiking/Biking sandal with SPD cleats (Apparently Keen Commuter 4 is coming out this year so I will wait and see how much that one has improved)

  • Icebreaker Anatomica Boxers - I would have bought these for only $18CAD but they don't have any in my size :'( I can't justify spending $30+ on a pair of boxers on my budget

  • Therm-a-rest Evolite Plus - I have a feeling this is going to be on par if not better than the NeroAir XLite because apparently it doesn't crinkle nearly as much! If I didn't already buy a Trail Pro this year then I would be purchasing the Evolite Plus

    Future trips wishlist:

  • MSR Dromedary Water Bladder 4L

  • dhb Merino Zip Neck Base Layer 200

    Stuff I bought this year:

  • Hennessy Hammock Expedition Asym Zip - Can't wait to try this out, it only weighs 2.4lbs, takes up little space since no tent poles, and it can be used virtually anywhere

  • Thermarest Trail Pro Sleeping Pad - I don't why it's marked "Irregular"? There's nothing wrong with it, no blemishes or anything

  • Eureka Cimarron 15 Degree Sleeping Bag - This sleeping bag is stupidly heavy, but cheap and very warm

  • Marmot Zeus Down Vest - 700 Fill Power - Lightweight warm high quality down vest that I got for stupidly cheap (Originally $200CAD got it on sale for $76CAD 61% off!)

  • Icebreaker Tech Lite National Park Shirt - 100% merino wool T-shirt for only $40CAD, nothing to complain about there

    I actually have a Green MSR Hubba Hubba with Gear Shed that I bought last year and only used for a handful of days last Summer - no wear N tear at all. I'm going to be selling it soon for a steal at $420CAD on (would cost you $620CAD+ to buy new) if you are interested feel free to let me know. Here is what it looks like except the gear shed vestibule expands more than that
u/8bitmorals · 1 pointr/maui

When are you going to be here? I can loan you a water filter or if you have enough time, you should get this one : Sawyer Products Mini Water Filtration System ...

u/tiredofpegging · 1 pointr/CampingandHiking

I day hike quite a bit and I've been backpacking for years.

For a long day hike I carry:

Food(high protein/low weight)
First Aid
Weather protection(warm jacket/rain jacket depending)
Probably some other misc things I'm not thinking of.

Also with some modern water filters like this filtration is so cheap and lightweight that if you're hiking somewhere with good water sources(much of Colorado) carrying a filter only makes sense.

Backpacking is a bit more complicated of course. On top of the day hiking kit I carry:

Extra clothes/socks(you need less than you think, but don't skimp on the socks)
Sleeping pad
some kind of pack cover/liner to keep your stuff dry
Camp food

I think that's most of it. Obviously there are more things you could bring, this list is a bit spartan so some luxury items might be nice.

The other big thing to think about is footwear. Everyone has strong opinions about what footwear is the best, but if I was starting out I would just pick up a nice pair of mid-height lightweight hiking boots, probably non-waterproof(for ventilation) from a good manufacturer(I swear by Merrell personally).

I have a pair of these that are great.

Nowadays I usually just wear lightweight hiking/running shoes that are really comfortable but don't offer a lot of protection. Just the other day I did a 15 mile day hike largely off trail at elevation in the Sierras with no problems. But I have strong ankles and tough feet so that may not be advisable for a beginner.

Hope that helps!

u/_Jias_ · 1 pointr/hiking

Very reliable, if you're looking to get one with longer use Id recommend the

u/KhalduneRo · 1 pointr/AppalachianTrail

inline - so I use mine with a camel back. I put dirty water in the camel back... and the filter is between my bag and my mouthpiece. saves time by just filling my camel back and walking away. usually have to buy these adaptors in addition to the mini, but not always so double check.

screw top - fits on top of most plastic bottles (water, soda, etc). Already included as a feature of most sawyer filters.

I suggest these methods because the bags that come with the sawyer filters can be problematic and why should you have to keep up with one extra thing.

u/Jacks_Grin · 1 pointr/tacticalgear

Civ here, gonna get an IR reflective flag patch like the one you have (I'm guessing). I thought you only get the reverse flag for the shoulder?


Water, check
TQ, check
ammo, check,
pack, check.

  • 1 change of clothes
  • Provisions (high calorie good nutrient)
  • large knife
  • concealed back up pistol in case you are disarmed
  • 1 bobby pin
  • 2 handcuff keys - one in your bag and one on your person.
  • pocket saw
  • water filter
  • a good pair of gloves (I've got camelback magnums, they're awesome)
  • Compass
  • Magnesium fire starter
  • emergency blanket
  • bug spray you'll thank me
  • a couple contractor trash bags (this will help waterproof your shelter and it's amazing insulation.
  • medkit (you said its on your list)
  • sighting device (unless you have a scope on your rifle)
  • flares/flaregun
  • chemical lights
  • flashlight
  • bear mace
  • compact cookset for boiling water, cooking/retaining nutrients.
  • 100 ft paracord
  • toilet paper or wet wipes (trust me)
  • 1 bar antimicrobal/antibacterial soap
  • toothbrush/paste

    and then depending on where you live, you may want some climbing equpment, like a descender or ascender and some rope.
u/therealw00zy · 1 pointr/bicycling
u/ribo · 1 pointr/BuyItForLife

I know this isn’t what you asked for, but in emergency situations, this is a much better solution unless you live in the desert: Sawyer Products SP103 Mini Water Filtration System, Single, Orange

u/GBFel · 1 pointr/collapse

You can get filters that will do thousands of gallons for just $20. No excuse to not have one.

u/RTM512 · 1 pointr/preppers

Was looking at these filters on Amazon and saw this one as a similar item:

Any thoughts? Not nearly the same amount of gallons but claims to filter chemicals as well as .01 micron filter. Looks like additional filters are relatively cheap as well.

u/Fluffy_Potato · 1 pointr/CampingGear

I personally have a Life Saver water bottle that I have used countless times in really gross conditions, like mosquito larvae in the water stagnate and didn't get sick. I also recently purchased a Survivor Filter PRO off Amazon. It is much much more portable HOWEVER I have not had a chance to try it in the same conditions as my Life Saver though it does state that it can also filter out a lot of heavy metals so I would imagine that would be desirable in a filter you want to use in a different country.

u/0818wedding · 1 pointr/hiking

Would you be interested in water purifying tablets? Pristine Tablets are available at Sportchek for 12$/50pc. Use one tablet per 1 litre. They have them elsewhere as well (Mountain Warehouse, Sail, outdoorsy stores), this is just a brand I’ve looked into before. I recommend a mini filtration system like Lifestraw as well. It’s only for individual use so you’ll have to grab one for each of you, but it’s totally worth it. Not to say you and hubs can’t take turns drinking if you’d rather buy one!

Have an awesome time!! 😊

Edit: I searched for a small water filter for two people and I can’t find one! I did find this though! it’s small and will take a while to filter, but it’s a small pump! 😊

u/TheTimespirit · 1 pointr/AppalachianTrail

Survivor Filter PRO – Virus and Heavy Metal Tested 0.01 Micron Portable Water Filter for Camping, Hiking and Emergency. 3 Stages - 2 Cleanable 100,000L UF Membranes and a Carbon Filter.

u/I_AM_CANADIAN_AMA · 1 pointr/preppers

Or just get a water filter so you don't have to carry large amounts of water? Both are a good idea really.

u/SnowySaint · 1 pointr/Survival

50$ right now: Survivor Filter PRO-LE
> 0.01 Micron

>Tests show Removal of - 99.9% Virus, Staph and Bacteria and Reduction of Heavy Metals - 99.5% of Mercury and 93% Lead - surpassing EPA standards for water filters.

If you end up buying and traveling with this unit, would love to have an update on it's performance.

u/artsielbocaj · 1 pointr/Ultralight

It's this one:

It allows you to screw two bottles (or bags, or a combination) together. Assuming you don't have a bunch of air trapped in there, it will gravity filter at a slow but steady rate. I put some holes in my included Sawyer bags to make a makeshift Evernew/Platypus style bag. I would stop at a creek, fill the bag, connect the bottle, hang the bag, and gravity filter while I did other stuff.

u/twoknives · 1 pointr/Ultralight

I knew I forgot something I gave up on the bottle caps to backlash the filterm and found this guy also a hat. The jacket while awesome is definitely going to be replaced and I love my Montell versalite so Ill probably look at there stuff. Also didn't know about GG pack liner stuff. And I haven't thought about the Rvalue being low. My SO i's a cold sleeper for sure however but we haven't got her system down just yet but it will most likely include thermals for sleep and socks.

Edit: as for storms that tarps done awesome. Survived a storm at 9700 feet jus below paintbrus device in Grand Teton NP this summer, just have to pitch it right. And it ha's 12 tie outs but I admit I've not played to much with using less of them so it's a thought for sure!

u/BilboTeaBagginsLOL · 1 pointr/bugout

Get one of these for carrying water.
Get a large mouth metal water bottle as well. Can be used to boil water in.

u/RADMFunsworth · 1 pointr/Ultralight

The CNOC Vecto (this is the one I have) has the big fill opening on the opposite side of the bag as the screw top opening, which helps keep the "clean water" side of things away from the "dirty water" side. I also like the softer rubbery feel of the CNOC as compared to the Evernew (I have this one.) I also like the closing mechanism better on the CNOC. Much easier when your hands are cold/wet. Weight and the space they take up in your pack when empty seem pretty comparable.

I do like both of these better than anything else I've used though, because of the wide opening that makes it easier to fill from most sources. They're much easier than something like THIS, for example, or the bags that come with the Sawyer which only have the one small opening.

u/Takingbackmemes · 0 pointsr/AskReddit

BAM NIGGER. Couple extra canisters, you're set.

Promode: 55 gallon drum filled with pebbles down to progressively finer gravel down to sand. Run any water through that first, it takes out a lot of stuff and saves wear on the filter as listed above.

u/dyer346 · 0 pointsr/CampingandHiking

Ok for a good shoe look into trail running shoes. I recommend Solomon. You could always go old school and just boil your water or you could get a filter. I have one like this and it works dandy. For sleeping arangements go with a bivy. There are many different styles. Find one that works for the kind of camping you are doing. Also a simple tarp setup will work too. Use tyvec sheets you get at the hardware store. Light and cheep. Low cover is the key there. Stove. I just picked up one of these bad boys up. I like it. small and pretty durable. Your pup will probably sleep with you. if you go the tent route it's a non issue. He will sleep in the tent with you. it's a win win. he feels the love and you get a little free body heat.

u/DrunkenGolfer · 0 pointsr/holdmyfeedingtube

Seems like a bad idea to use the same color for water and kerosene.

u/AussieEquiv · 0 pointsr/PacificCrestTrail
u/Baerne · 0 pointsr/Ultralight

Still going through the list with a few options but I noticed the hate on the filter and I've recently been using the Versa Flow and I think mine weighed in around 1.6-7oz and its got a decent flow rate and being able to hook up directly to the [CNOC Dirty Bag] ( and bottles was a big plus from my original Platypus bladder/hose setup

u/Sacmo77 · -1 pointsr/pics

this is good too

Katadyn Pocket Water Filter


Check this