(Part 2) Best bottles & water filtration systems according to redditors
We found 945 Reddit comments discussing the best bottles & water filtration systems. We ranked the 230 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the products ranked 21-40. You can also go back to the previous section.
I went through a few of your videos and checked out the subjects of each of them. As a recommendation, if you're putting videos together for broke ass preppers, it would probably be useful to start off with some real basics. Like for example, the cheap stove tops and fuel videos are interesting, but they don't mean much if you don't have anything to cook. So other than Ramen, people new to prepping could probably benefit from a guide on:
Etc.
Getting people to get just a month's worth of food built up in their pantry would be an amazingly useful feat, even if it had to occur over time. Especially for minimum wage folks who have bills to pay, there will be times that they have emergencies that they need cash for, and having a stocked pantry means that they can be prepped for redirecting those funds.
Similar for water. Your video was interesting to watch, but if you're asking someone to invest in water purification tablets, then it's just as reasonable to ask them to snag a Sawyer Water Filter for $20. It might have made that stream water you were drinking a little more palatable. There are other cheap tricks as well to clear that up a bit, like using coffee filters to pre-filter the water which will extend your filter's life and get a lot of little things out a bit better than a hanky. It might be good to research tips and tricks like that and include them in a new water video. And then there's also grabbing some flats of bottled water to rotate through at the house. You can easily get a week's worth of water in bottles pretty inexpensively at the right places, and having good clean drinking water on hand for a minor emergency is better than having to filter run off stream water.
The video's on MRE's and gadgets and do-dads are cool and add good flavor to your channel, but imo... the biggest parts of prepping on a budget are the fundamentals, and those seem to be missing from your library at the moment. I'd be more likely to recommend it for others to view if you did a really good job covering those.
Polar Pure is the shit for water purification.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00N5AGT1Q/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_OXh7CbBD852X1
I used:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0047QV0AM/ref=mp_s_a_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1482642857&sr=1-9&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65
(Mobile, sorry).
And hiked in an empty plastic jug. Worked great. Aim for the fast moving water, and you'll be fine.
Get you a Sawyer gravity drip. Pumping gets old really quick. Just fill the bladder and relax while your water vessel of choice gets filled.
Sawyer Products SP160 One-Gallon Gravity Water Filtration System with Dual-Threaded Mini Filter https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XZVBSMX/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_y2QgDbXQ3M671
Protip: the amount you have to purge in backflow will be determined by how dirty the source water is.
https://www.amazon.ca/Sawyer-Products-SP105-Filtration-System/dp/B00TOX6UM6
We use these for back country camping and they work very well. $30 for treated drinkable water.
No, let me recommend you something much better,
https://www.amazon.ca/Survivor-Filter-Multi-Purpose-Performance-Replaceable/dp/B00LA97I8M/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
Long lasting, cheap replaceable components, blows LifeStraw out of the water ( pun intended)
Red River Gorge in KY is the best backpacking you'll find within 4 hours of you.
As for the water filter - don't get that. Get this and never look back: http://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-SP137-PointOne-Hydration/dp/B00WG9AFW6/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1457558191&sr=8-4&keywords=sawyer+squeeze+filter+system
Reverse osmosis has no real debilitating effects, it's already in use to produce commercial drinking water, and it can easily be scaled down to devices with a pump that can filter more or less anything out of water, you can also use sugar to power it (if you put sugar on the dry side, the sugar will suck the water out of the salt water, giving you a drinkable solution with no energy input).
The issue with these devices are that you generally need very powerful pumps with large energy demands, because to get decent flow you need a high pressure, this graphene thing says they can reduce the power needed by the pump significantly (and then it goes onto claim that it wouldn't use energy, which is false, though it may be low enough to be a non-issue). Of course graphene is ridiculously expensive right now so it's not worth it (yet).
-This was generous gift from my SO's mom. It may not be the best tent out there, but at free it can't be beat.
-Got this for its small size and light weight. Future winter camping trips are a possibility, in which case I plan on snagging a wool blanket of sleeping bag liner.
-Simple basic sleeping pad, I've been using these since scouts and have wanted for nothing more, especially because of its light weight.
-In the event of winter camping, is this enough to insulate from the ground? If not, what could be added to my sleep system to keep me insulated from the ground?
-Lightweight and simple, these were cheap and seemed straight forward.
-They stack with the majority of either piece's empty space facing each other, allowing for decently dry storage for matches etc. inside.
-Comes with a tight fitting mesh ditty bag
-Another straight forward and cheap piece,
-This is really an optional piece, I plan on bringing it along on trips with big groups or when cooking meat is in the cards.
-These are the camping gold standard in my book, been using them since scouts.
-Came in a decently affordable combo pack, plan on using them for food/toiletries storage and bear bags.
-Love this little knife, cheap but durable and was a shaver straight out of the box.
-Came with a super thick plastic sheath
9)Hatchet: Estwing Hatchet - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004TNWD40?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
-Heard this was a classic, people say they've still got the one's their grandfather's used. It's heavy, but I'm happy with the tradeoff.
-Got it sharpened well enough to cleanly slice through paper at the moment
-Great sharpener, pretty much the go to field sharpener from what I've gathered.
-Only took a couple minutes to learn how to use, the only hard part is consistently following the bevel through each stroke, but it gets easier.
-Very great, medium size towels with their own tote
-Seems great, picked it up at REI physical store then read reviews and got spooked, we'll see though, a minority of the reviewers swear by it.
-Just in case it sucks, any suggestions for a collapsible water container of equal size/price?
-These came free with my water filter, and they have many good reviews. If they do well, I may buy some extras.
-More showing of my primitivist ass, and I thought I could take some weight off of my SO by carrying enough water for the two of us.
-Got these a long time ago when I knew less, they are pretty bulky and my first item I want to replace
-SO's mom gifted this this Christmas, so amazing and thoughtful, one of the best gifts I've ever gotten and I love the color
-Pack of flashlights (might not bring all four) - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00V639BNC?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s01
Items not shown:
-Always a tin or bag of Drum Tobacco and papers
-Kindle, old generation one
-Collapsible trowel
-Paracord
-Burlap shoulder bag for gathering kindling etc
Items still wanted (suggestions greatly appreciated):
-Knife for SO
-Work gloves
-Plastic flasks for booze
-Belt pouch
-Higher quality tarp
-Knife Sharpener
-Sleeping bag liner or wool blanket
-Any food suggestions!
-Rain cover for pack
-Smell proof food bags
I don't have much experience outside of scouts, so I'm very open to critique of my setup. I will warn that I am very much into primitivism, and camping for me is a gateway to a backcountry, esthetic lifestyle I one day I hope to live, so some of my gear choices may not always be the most efficient. Any advice from a primitivist or purist standpoint is doubly appreciated.
Nalgene 38oz Guyot designs, with a nice flat bottom. Amazon Canada, $76 (stupid!),
Amazon US, $30
Kleen Kanteen 40oz, Amazon Canada, $70 (just slightly less stupid!),
Amazon US, $23
There's the best of the best options. Try not to live in Canada for the best deal.
If you want something easy and light get one of these https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-5-Gallon-Collapsible-Water-Carrier/dp/B000088O9Y/ref=sr_1_2 especially if you want potable water.
You can also repurpose the big laundry soap jugs. Don't drink from it.
You can get hard plastic water jugs https://www.amazon.com/Reliance-Products-Jumbo-Tainer-Gallon-Container/dp/B000GKDFH4/ref=sr_1_4
Otherwise, that's called a wall bucket the lid was likely handmade and honestly, the whole bucket might have been https://www.amazon.com/Panacea-83220-Galvanized-Buckets-Handles/dp/B01N0L4SO4/ref=sr_1_5
https://smile.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-SP131-PointOne-Squeeze/dp/B0797KBCFL/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=sawyer%2Bsqueeze&qid=1564810062&s=gateway&sr=8-3&th=1
I carry a Katadyn Hiker Pro, even on day trips. I have a 3L camelback, and I once ran out of water hiking the Harvard and Columbia linkup, on the way up to the summit of Columbia. Worst. Day. Ever.
Now I bring the filter on anything over a few hour hike. It's light, easy to use, it doesn't take very long to filter water, and it doesn't take up much space
I've never liked 72hours' kits, but I suppose they are easy if you want a click and forget experience. They do have the best prices on the #5 food grade Mountain House dehydrated food tins though. 20 year shelf life and you can take them camping to rotate your supply. Unfortunately they're packed with sodium.
In the event of a moderate earthquake or prolonged power outage, you can assume that you will be able to return to your home after the utilities have been checked and/or turned off. The key things you need to do are to save what food and water you can. 72 hours is wildly optimistic, in a city supplied by bridges on all sides I'd think the average prepared family should be able to sustain itself for at least a week. Some people buy a big turkey after Christmas and leave it in a deep freeze only to serve as an ice block in case the power fails. Water is the larger concern though.
By that, having a sink adapter for a water filter is invaluable. So is a bath tub waterBOB if you don't have space to stockpile flats of water or aquatainers. Assuming the water still has slight pressure, even if the pipes have cracked and the water is now contaminated with rust or dirt, as long as you can get some of it into a BOB (or even just a bathtub, just, be aware that bathtubs are notoriously filthy), you can treat it. Even toilet water... Having aquatabs, an aforementioned filter or even iodine (5-10 drops per quart) can easily get a bathtub full of dirty water into drinkable condition.
I think people almost fantasize about heading out into a park, setting up camp and defending their homestead. In an emergency event, you will want to be in your home. Authorities want you to be in your home. The backpacks on their websites... they're not going to keep you alive. A proper bugout bag needs to have clothes, money, medication, luxuries to keep children calm, high protein snacks, some water and more money. Any bug out bag will not keep you alive for a week, it's just not possible to carry that much alone. Focus on having enough to keep you alive while not being able to return to your home for 24 hours, because the chances are you will be able to return. In all likeliness you will end up in an emergency shelter which will have food and water, but not the personalized things mentioned above.
So the shitty tube tent, the $1 plastic parka, the gardening gloves, the water juiceboxes.. all that junk in the 72 hour bag.. you may find it useful but in all honesty it's not going to help you for fuck all in 99% of the emergencies we may experience in BC.
Added this guy Sawyer Products SP182 Squeeze Filter with Faucet Adapter for Boil Alerts https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0797KBCFL?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf to my kit. Have some reusable bags for it on the way as well. Only $10 for the 1500 ml evernew bag if you do the slower shipping option on Amazon.
Been cycling through the canned goods from winter.
Planted strawberries, grapes, and two blueberry bushes that are kicking ass.
Lost two sets of raised beds to frost in April and still haven’t replanted... considering a greenhouse for the backyard for seeds and saplings for next year. I don’t have a ton of space and the HOA might get pissy if it is too noticeable. I feel good about my water options but sustainable food concerns me.
Anyone know a site that can help you visualize the amount of vegetables it would take to sustain a family? Obviously hunting and trapping would supplement.
This has been great for me, a little pricey, but great.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004ASI9II/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Trying to save a couple bucks on a Sawyer... any reason not to buy the faucet adapter version ($22 vs $30) and use smart water bottles instead of the included pouch?
https://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-SP131-PointOne-Squeeze/dp/B0797KBCFL/ref=sr_1_2?s=outdoor-recreation&ie=UTF8&qid=1524549210&sr=1-2&keywords=sawyer%2Bsqueeze&dpID=51SJ5lM%252BhyL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch&th=1
It's not what you're describing, but Amazon sells the "faucet adapter kit," basically a squeeze and some plastic tubing, for $25.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0797KBCFL?ie=UTF8&tag=etalesawyer-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1634&creative=19450&creativeASIN=B005EHPVQW&th=1
I found it without the bag for about $7 cheaper than with the bag. It includes a faucet adapter too!
https://smile.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-SP131-PointOne-Squeeze/dp/B0797KBCFL/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=sawyer%2Bsqueeze&qid=1568058031&s=gateway&sr=8-3&th=1
Basically, yeah.
These are what I use.
I've stored water for weeks without any real problem. Just rinse them out every once in a while before you refill.
Not shilling, not selling anything neutral.
I bought the Alexapure.
I went with this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01G0Q61YQ
Based on cost of filter, filter quality, etc.
The comparable competitor would be the "berkey" filters which are 100% compatible. I can't remember the exact reason, but I liked the Alexapure filter or something better. I can put 4 filters in, to have it filter fast, or just 1 filter, and have to wait up to 1 hour for the water to filter (no big deal).
If you are a 2 person family (man + woman, whatevsare you are), you'll want 2 filters, and it goes in 20 mins on a full tank. Full tank lasts 3 days.
I went with Alexpaure + 2 filters, but that's just me. I think the Berkey are just as good, probably.
Good luck! I hate amazon, (bezos), just being honest.
I promise you it's worth the investment. Pass it on.
There is a real reason why most chain food restaurants no longer use spring onions as a raw garnish. As a raw vegetable, it's almost impossible to get you low-skilled, low salaried workers to clean them properly. Personally, I'll still get them for doing a stir-fry, but it's too much work usually for garnish. This LPT and many of the comments actually suggest growing your own E.coli.
To be honest, I usually use my Polar-Pure to make a dilute iodine solution to soak the onions in. But it was forced off the market for a while thanks to the War on (some) Drugs, and people have seems to gravitate to pump filters.
It's really not that unsafe.. Bringing some gallon jugs with you won't be the end of the world. If you have a bigger group, you can pick up a couple of these to bring your water in too. Plus there's no security lines so going back and forth between camp isnt as much of a hassle.
That's where the "bathtub of water" comes in to play. Plus, if an area doesn't have water for weeks, it's going to be an enormous disaster area and i would expect the feds will be there for support.
But i guess as a "survival" backup, I'd get one of these that'll get you 100K gallons of drinking water from a river/lake: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TOX6UM6/
they are good and compact and pretty cheap. If you ever run out of water you'll wish you had one as most water sources are contaminated anymore.
I prefer my hand pump. I've had mine 10 years and it works great. I really doesn't weigh much and you can change out the filter.
https://www.amazon.com/Katadyn-Hiker-Microfilter-Water-Filter/dp/B0047QV0AM/ref=sr_1_9?crid=3OJ6CP0N5E4XC&keywords=water+filter+hand+pump&qid=1556483509&s=gateway&sprefix=water+filter+hand%2Caps%2C274&sr=8-9
I did it twice last year. If you're not needing to wade too deep, here's what I suggest:
I also started hammock camping which helped cut down on size/weight a little.
This worked really well for me. Here's why:
Pic of packed gear
Tiny fish
I've never heard of this thing. It has 3 different sizes listed for pore size in the product description. First is says: With the first layer of 0.2~0.01 Hollow Fiber UF Membrane, which means it is has 0.2 micron holes as well, but then later it says Filter to an amazing 0.1 microns. That being said, even the 0.2 size is good enough for bacteria and parasites.
I would spend a couple bucks and go with a Sawyer. Super light and the folks at ultralight and appalachian trail swear by them.
Water Filter!
https://www.amazon.com/Katadyn-8013418-Survivor-06-Desalinator/dp/B000F395X0
If you order the "faucet adapter" option (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0797KBCFL/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_hzAyCb2C6SD3Q ), it's only $24. It still comes with the regular Squeeze and the cleaning plunger. If you already have collection bags and such, it's a very affordable option to get a new full size Squeeze.
You may want to consider a Sawyer.
Sawyer Products SP101 Mini Water Filtration System, Single, Green https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MPH1M80/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_2geBzbDJWJJNB
Safe travels!
2 things for the sawyer setup.
Gear-wise- try your best to make use of stuff you already have. You don't need to get expensive name brand outdoor gear if you already have stuff that will work.
For a dayhike, I would recommend using a pack you already have like a school pack.
Food and water are important. Especially water. Depending on the route, you could just make sure to carry enough water the whole way, but that can get heavy. I would recommend buying cheap bottled water like Smartwater rather than a heavy nalgene bottle. If you'll be crossing streams along the way, I would recommend you get a Katadyn BeFree. It's a waterbottle that filters water you get from streams and makes it safe to drink. That way you only have to carry enough water to get to the next stream.
I would also recommend you bring a flashlight. If you, worst case scenario, end up being out there past dark, you want a way to continue hiking back to the car in the dark. This is my favorite but any flashlight will do.
Make sure to put sunscreen on at the trailhead and bring sun protection like a long sleeve shirt, maybe a hat. And bring enough layers to stay warm. A cotton t-shirt is okay but the rest of your clothes should be material made to dry quickly and keep you warm when wet like wool, nylon, fleece, etc.. Most of my hiking clothes are thrift-store or TJ Maxx finds. For a rain jacket, I just use $20 Frog Toggs from Walmart. It's light and does a great job. I like to hike in sneakers, so don't feel like you need hiking boots. I use [ankle gaiters](https://dirtygirlgaiters.com) to keep pebbles out of my shoes but that's not super important for starting out.
I would also recommend visiting /r/ultralight for gear inspiration. What I like about that sub is that they're good at focusing on the essentials of what you'll need without the distraction of frivolous camping gear like folding chairs, coffee makers, and camp showers. Once you get your essential gear then you can decide if you want to get the non-essential stuff too. A lot of their suggestions are also very cheap (contrary to popular belief). They have a link in the sidebar to a budget gear list for people just getting started.
You probably won't have to worry much about wildlife but it's always a good idea to research the area you're going to. I usually stop by the ranger station on my way to a hike and ask them if I should be aware of any bear problems or anything.
In terms of etiquette, as long as you leave things the way you found them and don't litter, stomp on plants, or cut down trees, you should be be fine. I hope that helps a little and that you have a fun time out there!
The 3-Way is one of Sawyer's older models that has quick connects on either end. I love those Platypus Big-Zip bags, which use quick connects for their hose attachments already. So I just repurposed an old Camelbak bag that I didn't like for the dirty reservoir, and hooked the filter up between them. Then you just let gravity do all the work (as long as you make sure to purge the air from the filter and hoses first).
You can do the same thing with the Mini right out of the box with the hose barb fittings on either end. Or you can get screw-on hose barb adapters for the Squeeze that do the same thing. And if I were doing it from scratch now that's probably what I'd do.
Good looking cup. I would advise against drinking from rivers and streams. If an animal dies/defecates upstream and you drink that water, your not in for a fun hike. Violent bloody stools in between blackouts is 100% hellish. Get a nice UV water purifier pen if you want to keep drinking from streams.
Buy water storage jugs from camping supply sections or amazon prime and fill them with tap water.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001QC31G6/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_dp_x_0jSRzb8EWX3BY
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000GKDFH4/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_dp_x_0kSRzb4TS9GW0
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KX1DLCY/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_dp_x_CjSRzbVPGKN0C
Welcome to camping! You could try and x-post this to r/campingandhiking if you haven't yet, to get more feedback.
I think the biggest paperweights you've got on that list are in the tools section: You don't need a leatherman, it's expensive, and there's not much use for pliers or philips screwdrivers in the outdoors. A knife is very helpful, but you only need one, not 3 (4 if you count the knife in the fire kit).
You don't need that whole fire kit; I like how much you're planning for emergencies, but you could just buy some fireproof matches and make the rest of the kit yourself. (the cord saws are hard to work with and tend to break).
You also have 4 different lights listed, headlamp is more useful than a flashlight you have to hold, lantern could be useful, but an inflatable one would shave some weight. Do you need the keychain light?
Cans are heavy to hike with, if you can buy similar food in pouch form, you can use your knife to open your food and don't need the can opener.
Is the shovel for poop holes? A lot of people use this thing, which is a lot lighter than the folding shovel.
I don't know if Bear spray is necessary, but you should have a bear bag system with you, if only for the little bears (mice and other critters).
For water filtration, I have to recommend the katadyne BeFree because it is super fast. I'd try and buy a second bag for it, since they sometimes delaminate. Either way, I'd recommend trying out your system at home, so you know if you like it before you're depending on it.
there's a bunch on Amazon :)
Amazon Reviews
No my came with a cap set that fits over nalgene and hydroflasks, and a smaller cap that fits in klean kanteens. I posted a link to it.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B074WJDZYK/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1521064915&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=lifestraw+universal&dpPl=1&dpID=41h26wg0VvL&ref=plSrch
Thanks for the input, sorry if it is a bit unclear, I've edited it without the weight of the water.
Tarp is gone, along with 10m of para cord for putting it up with.
Picked up a new fleece with saves 300grams today (had No idea that it would save that much) and the trainers I'm replacing as well, definitely getting lighter one and I'll probably replace most the the clothes as well with lighter weight trekking ones.
This is the Eco straw which seems like it will do the job, apologises if Eco Straw was unclear.
The sponge / soap / cloth is all because of lessons from my last trip where we had to throw away a meal or two because we didn't properly clean our dishes so everything tasted soapy. The wire mess and tent pegs look something like this, I'm looking for a different wire mess than what I've got at the moment to bring down the weight some more, but the whole thing is on the ditch list if it isn't very useful.
The solar charger is also a battery bank, and I may ditch one of the camera lenses to save 600grams (fuck that thing is heavy)
Oh and a pot has gone as well.
I have a source hydration bladder and a universal tap adapter for it. The tap adapter is stretchy, so you can also put it over a bottle or hose if you want. The Q&A on the universal tap adapter page mentions that it fits on camelbak systems, but I can't verify that as I don't own one. This system is solid: I've taken it running, hiking, etc. and on a goruck challenge and it's has no noticeable damage.
Full disclosure: those are my Amazon affiliate links.
In Sweden if you save up hit the Hairy Pig restaurant. Best meal I’ve had in maybe 10 years! Worth paying for. Also I just got back from
Many of the location you mentioned. We took power bars but saved a ton on water by bringing nagal bottles and lifestraw water filters! We got the adapter kits with straw for $15 at Walmart and bottles for $6 off amazon (32oz bottle). We filled up from bathroom sinks, outdoor water fountains etc! Saved us a ton on bottled water and was healthier then the bottled stuff. Definitely do that it will save you a ton on europe
LifeStraw Universal Water Filter Bottle Adapter Kit Fits Select Bottles from Hydroflask, Camelbak, Kleen Kanteen, Nalgene and More https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074WJDZYK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_7SfzDbQ406G95
My favorite thing about the Source pack is this gadget. It goes on the sink in my trailer and I can fill my pack without even taking it off. Previously I had an MSR bladder and it was a pain to disassemble and fill, and too often I wouldn't bother if I thought I could get by with what I had left. I haven't run out of water on the playa since I got the fill adapter.
The adapter also serves as a directional sprayer on the faucet, so it stays there all the time. Well worth the $8.
I use this one in line with my water bladder. It works great, I just fill my bladder with dirty water and drink.
Nice thorough review. +1.
I have the similar AK rig, and I have to admit, I wish I had gone with a 100% MOLLE rig.
I did a chunk of research the other day, and I think personally I'd have to go with a waist-loaded option. For whatever reason, having straps on my shoulders makes it annoying to really couch a blaster in my shoulder, on top of the straps -- don't ask me why, it's just always... Not quite right.
That said, if I had to rebuy my rig, I'd spend a bit more and get this setup:
I'd probably go with a double pouch on each side, carrying 8x18 + 2 or 3 in/on the blaster + sidearm + holdouts. More than enough.
Everything's on the waist, out of the way so you keep utmost in upper-body maneuverability. Everything's also off to the side, so you can go prone/flat against walls pretty easily on either side, whereas the chest rig made bellying up to a wall less than ideal.
If I wanted to go for extras, I'd want to look at a Mag Recovery Dump Pouch for one side.
For those that want the shoulder support, you can get an H-Harness
Now for the really crazy research that I did.
I considered adding hydration of some kind, which gets a bit tricky for waist packs. The slickest hydration pack I could probably find was the Condor Hydro Harness which actually fits nicely with all of their gear -- but you need to have a compatible chest rig to use it properly... Which means things on the shoulders. Even more cobbled together solutions, such as an H-Harness + Hydration carrier has the same problem, although less so.
Fortunately, there are solutions! MOLLE-compatible 'side' hydration pouches, such as the Source Kangaroo 1L or the Blackout! Side Hydration Pouch would take the water off the back. 1L is a lot less, as most backpacks are 2, 2.5, or even more in capacity. The downside of any hydration pouch is twofold in this case:
That said, Source does make some pretty awesome extras, both of which seem really useful the former of which may even work to deal with problem #1 in this case.
There's another alternative to this, too, though! I personally find my Nerf habit totally niche, so I always feel a bit guilty getting something JUST for Nerf... But Nalgene bottles or the like are really useful otherwise, so that's always a nice option.
I personally think I'd lean towards the straw option, as it's easier to clean and more universally usable, although I'm not entirely certain I'd like the bulk of a Nalgene bottle on my waist and the slosh factor, both of which are lesser issues when dealing with a bladder. Maybe I'll try and find a suitable pouch for a 32oz Nalgene canteen and get the SNEP...
EDIT: Malformed link.
I use my Sawyer 3-way on hydro packs all the time. I spliced it into the tubing and use Sawyer's quick disconnects that came with the filter.
If you're not worried about viruses, this is a better option. If you are worried about viruses I'd get a Steripen in addition to that. With some iodine, bleach or aquamira as a backup for course.
Bleach is great but for taste I recommend Polar Pure it also in basically infinite. https://www.amazon.com/Polar-Pure-Iodine-Purifier-Sterilizes/dp/B00N5AGT1Q
You take your mouthpiece off and put the adapter on in place. Put a liter or two bottle in the other end of the adapter and hold it above your pack.
https://www.amazon.com/Source-Tactical-Universal-Adapter-Hydration/dp/B005QI8M5Q/
First, the most effective water treatment is boiling. Period.
Iodine for water purification is perfectly safe and effective. It's cheaper, lighter, and more reliable than filters and battery-powered light pens, etc., etc. Get some Polar Pure, a bottle will last you a lifetime, and get on with your life.
You should also note that the recommended dosages on iodine water treatment packages are usually 10x the dose needed to treat your water. Those dosages are written by lawyers, not scientists (iodine is so safe that recommending a 10x overdosage for water purification doesn't worry company lawyers—think about that). One should also note that iodine is as effective as boiling in killing viruses.
There is no undisputed science backing up claims of long term iodine toxicity in trace/moderate amounts of ingestion. For a typical adult, the highest recommended tolerable daily dose is 1,100 μg/day which is almost impossible to achieve without large amounts of supplementation (one exception is a diet high in certain species of seaweed).
The only iodine toxicity there is, is acute i.e. ingesting a large amount in a short amount of time (drinking an entire bottle) and even then, it is extremely rare for it to be fatal. Usually the majority is vomited back up without being absorbed. Boston General Hospital had hundreds of patients admitted for acute iodine poisoning during the initial years of the Great Depression, because the old wives' tale of iodine overdose as a means of suicide, and for the hundreds of attempted suicides by iodine: zero fatalities.
I haven't really looked in to long term storage treatment that much. Usually around this time of year, I'm dumping them into the rain barrel and refilling. The rain barrel is still quite full however.
I have 2 types of 7 gallon container. These ones and these ones. If I get more, they'll be the jerry can style as they are easier to move around and take up less floor space. If you have a lot of space, something like this could keep you in water for a month and maybe be a hero to your neighbors as well.
It is - I like it a lot - its not insulated though just a standard Nalgene design made out of stainless.
https://www.amazon.com/Nalgene-Stainless-Bottle-38-oz/dp/B004ASI9II/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1525010531&sr=8-1&keywords=Nalgene+341955+38+Oz.+Standard+Stainless+Steel+Bottle
First Aid Kit - you might not need it ever, but you should always have it. All kits are different but there are fundamental items that should be carried, you can check out the NOLS Kits
and either buy one or for less, make your own that is custom to your needs and desires.
Tools - First, carry a knife that can cut decent size branches, again, you might not need it but its good to have. Second, I recommend getting a water filter such as a Sawyer mini or Katadyn Be Free as they are both lightweight and will probably decrease your pack weight if you hike near water. Third, Fire can be helpful in many situations but must be used carefully and with respect. If you live somewhere that allows it, a wood burning camp stove will be worth some warmth and also allow you to cook if you bring along a mess set. I personally use an MSR Pocket Rocket. As a day hiker, you might not use a stove often but it's not bad to have if you do longer hikes or are far from civilization so if that's the case, look into tablet stoves. generally, you should have a lighter or two just in case. You may also consider carrying a survival blanket just in case (as goes for most these objects).
The Front Pouch - So the idea behind having this pouch is to have things that you want quick access too on the trail, the most important of which is your map. Navigation is important when hiking so if you're not familiar with an area buy a map and bring a compass. I personally don't use a compass but I've learned how to navigate without one, however you should always have a map. You may also need to have a permit for some hiking areas and it's nice to have within reach, usually with your map. you may also like to have TP and a camp trowel in there so that it is not hard to find at the wrong moment. along with that, a trash bag of any kind should be carried. Finally, carry snacks in there so that you don't have to dig around to find them.
Summary - This is all advice from a Backpacker so there will be many things you don't need on every hike but could save your life if you get caught in a bad situation, many of the objects I recommend are the same. If I'm close to home or not going out too far on a day hike, I usually carry a Knife, Be Free Filter, Lighter/Stove (depending on mileage) an extra coat, and extra food, but each hike and hiker are different. You will eventually find a system that works well for you, but it's always good to carry things that make life on the trail easier and can get you through a night in the wild. With thought on my comment, you should also check out the Ten Essentials as they will almost always be worth their weight.
If you have any other questions feel free to ask!
I wouldn't overthink the fire starter. A couple cheap lighters and a magnesium fire starter combined with the tinder options below should cover just about any situation. Total cost $7. You can also check out /r/edcexchange & /r/knife_swap for a decent fixed blade.
For the price, these are hard to beat. https://www.amazon.com/Glock-Field-Knife-Fixed-Battlefield/dp/B01DOOWT3O
Hell, I'll send you a good Kabar for $45.
Water
https://www.amazon.com/Katadyn-8018270-Hiker-Microfilter/dp/B0047QV0AM
Everything except the flashlight for $100
when u wake up drink water straight away . i drink a quart of water once i wake up . i bought this water filter and the water is really good
>I've only hiked to the base of subdome but I'm going to the top in 1 week.
I would suggest carrying a small water filter (this one is everywhere and cheap), and you can refresh off the Merced river and Sunrise Creek. Around here is probably your last stop for water, roughly 6 mile round trip from the top. Otherwise your last stop is the water fountains, which is a 12 mile round trip. You'll be get away with way less weight going up the Mist Trail and conserve your strength for the main event.
And you already know this if you've seen the cable queues from subdome, but get there early as you can manage. You'll have much better weather conditions and avoid the queue of tourists making the cables far more dangerous and far more aggravating. Personally I wouldn't depart later than 4 AM.
I got up there at 7:00, chilled and had breakfast and coffee for half an hour while watching the sunrise from subdome. On my way up, I actually ran into a couple people who were on their way down probably around 6:30. By the time I was on my way down around maybe 9:30, crowds were starting to gather and if I showed up later than 10 I'd probably skip the cables entirely (but that's only because I REALLY hate crowds).
You get this:
https://www.amazon.com/Nalgene-Stainless-Bottle-38-oz/dp/B004ASI9II/
Just fill up your container and put AquaMira drops in to extend the life. After several months, it might taste stale even if it's still good to drink. Just shake it up or pour it back and forth between two cups and it'll re-oxygenate the water, and it'll taste better.
I keep mine in these plastic 5-gal Scepter Cans like the U.S. military uses, and some 7-gal stackable jugs from Walmart. They're cheaper but don't travel as well.
I rotate mine every year-ish.
You'd take the Camelbak over Source? I had a Camelbak years ago and it seemed fine but something put a hole in it before I could use it in a game. I've heard Source are a bit nicer and they have the Tactical universale tube adapter which is cool, if a bit expensive. The tube is also coyote rather than bright blue for added Tacticalness. If quality is the same though I'd be happy to save the $12 and get the Camelbak.
here you go
i used to use a source one (great bladders btw) but moved to one of these and I'll never go back. fits into my Crye JPC very nice. tight fit so holds form well.
not a huge fan of the stock bite valve. like i said I had a source one already. I would suggest buying their valve separate if you want. (ofc run the stock 1st to see how you like it.)
also this you can refill on the go and without taking it out of your PC
Or you could just spend $15 on MSR Sweet Water Purifier Solution.
Or $40 on a SteriPen, if you don't want to mess up the flavor.
oh this is what i was talking about https://www.amazon.com/Polar-Pure-Iodine-Purifier-Sterilizes/dp/B00N5AGT1Q
Nalgene Stainless Bottle 38 oz. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004ASI9II/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_FlHNDbMRJF85F
Not the OP, but I believe they mean something like this:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005E0U9YS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_HMLLDb679WQW4
Sawyer makes water filters for camping that require zero electricity. You can use lake or river water. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XZVBSMX
They make smaller versions too.
Ahh, ok. I'm not aware of a bottle that the BeFree screws into outside of the Hydrapak (they also make the collapsible one that it comes with). On the JMT last year I just filled up the 2L seeker, filtered 1L into a Smart Water bottle which takes all of 20 sec, then left the 1L in the Seeker until I needed to refill the SW. The BeFree really does filter fast if you only want to use the .6L or 1L container that it comes with and filter into your existing SW/evernew.
Otherwise, it's heavier but Lifestraw has a universal adapter that you may be able to customize for your needs.
I use the Survivor Filter I prefer it over the Sawyer.
Link: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LA97I8M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_TqCqybSCCAFA1
I'd go Saw instead of Axe, less exersion/calorie use, better cuts.
Dump the gill net, in the case of season 3, your inland, not on the ocean, if you don't get lucky enough to get a stream on your site you wasted one of your 10. If you are lucky and get a stream, building fish traps is easy.
Maybe Bow, but only if your skilled in it's use
Definately cordage should be added, there are too many things that you can do with it.
Here is the list of what I would bring...
1, 100 Yard 30lb test (Additional Cordage, Snare wire)
2, 100 yard 20lb test (Additional Cordage, or use as heavy line)
3, 100 yard 15 lb test (for actual fishing)
for the 25 hooks, get the "red" colored hooks [Here is why] as they may be a built in attractant, a bonus within the rules is a bonus...
My Start
Day 1, job 1: temp shelter and fire building Prep for first night... NOTE! If in an area of Large Predators (Boar, Big Cat, Bears, etc) First order of Business Make a Boar Spear! 8 feet long, and mount a cross bar about a foot down (Boar Spear, else they will climb the spear torwards you)
Day 2, water production and evaluate the site, dig into a little of the rations for food for the day. Plan out the permant camp (if located), fishing/food prep/trapping areas, Freshwater sources. Try to make the permant cam centrally located between food and water, but away from food prep area and possible larger predator areas.
Day 3, Water Production, Hunting gathering morning, Camp building after noon. Food prep and bed.. Basically I'll follow the rule of 3s mostly (3 minutes air, 3 hours exposure, 3 days water, 3 weeks food) everything has it's priority, Shelter fire 1st, water 2nd, food last, beyond that is comfort to survive and thrive in the situation.
So much scepticism. Guys this concept does work, you can create this sort of pressure by hand an ounce of water every two minutes can be done with survival RO units.
Hand RO units have been on the go for a long time, Katadyn make them. Here's an example. http://www.amazon.com/Katadyn-8013418-Survivor-06-Desalinator/dp/B000F395X0
I know you seem to have vetoed the life straw due to price, but I just wanted to say that I would absolutely recommend the sawyer mini water filter over the life straw, as it can be hooked to a bottle or bag to squeeze filter water into another container, where the lifestraw cannot.
this little stove is a pretty solid item. Does a great job, is portable, and can use multiple fuel sources (wood, alcohol, solid fuel tablets)
A long term storage heirloom seed package could be a neat idea, and isn't too pricey.
you can buy the refill bits for first aid boxes that generally come with a lot more stuff for a lot cheaper than the actual kits inside a pretty bag or box.
A cheap portable propane heater ?
For water, I would suggest going for filtering. There are some cheap filters you can get your hands on that. One of my favorites is Sawyer SP160 which I use for backpacking. Filter lasts for 100,000 gallons and replacement filters are only $20ish. Takes up much less space than storing water.
For food, are we talking #10 cans? You could look into building a rotating can rack for the appropriate can size. Googling found a pinterest board with several links to different styles you could make.
Honestly I have a preference to be even cheaper and seemingly better storage space usage if you are going with bulk food items. Getting bulk rice or bean bags and then putting them into food safe buckets if you can source them cheap (if you know people who work at food plants, for example a Nestle factory that I get mine from).
Hint you can get bulk food items from an LDS Storehouse (Latter Day Saints prepping is part of their religion) for a really good price. Bonus is that they let anyone buy even if you aren't a LDS.
Katadyn Befree
A month is easy. For less than $100 you can get a good water filter and bucket of nonpersishable food
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But if you are really preparing for collapse, you need to plan for the long haul. Two years supply of food, start gardening, figure out plans for heating and cooking fuel.
This one https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B06XZVBSMX/ref=sspa_mw_detail_5?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Never had a moment trouble
I have a camelbak steel body with lifestraw mouth piece. It come with two different mouth piece to fit most.
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B074WJDZYK?psc=1&ref=yo_pop_mb_pd_title
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00TOX6UM6/ref=mp_s_a_1_1/145-0298543-3420436?ie=UTF8&qid=1504365684&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=sawyer%2Bmini&dpPl=1&dpID=51ccU8hhfNL&ref=plSrch&th=1&psc=1.
They are fabulous for camping! Not as great for chemical spills, but pretty handy if you can't boil or are out of iodine tablets and bleach.
Well... I'll get you started. As you're new to this, please ask lots and lots of questions.
Temperature in late September: it can range from 8-20 C during the day. For the most part, it'll be around 0-2 C overnight, but you might run into a -5C night.
There is access to the Highlands trail from the back of the Mew Lake campground. However, in the fall (I'm not sure of the exact date), I believe that you have to check in at the West Gate for the Highlands. But, either way, don't worry - your bus will stop at the West Gate.
For Western Uplands, you definitely have to check in at the West Gate year-round. From there, its a 3km walk up the road to the Oxtongue River Picnic Area which is also the trailhead for Western Uplands. You may also be able to hitch a ride from the West Gate.
There are next to no bugs in the fall.
The lakes will be cool. Certainly, some brave souls do swim. Personally, its a bit cold for me.
Yes, Algonquin does have both black bears and wolves. It'll be unlikely that you see one, and extremely unlikely that one will pursue you. However, make sure to hang your food, dishes, and toiletries as night about 200' from your tent.
Water is abundant throughout Algonquin. I doubt you could hike more than an hour without crossing a lake or stream. Of course, like everywhere, there are viruses and bacteria - so, make sure to boil, chemically treat, or filter your water. Personally, I use a Sawyer Squeeze and also bring backup Aquatabs in my med kit - but there are lots of choices available.
Is it safe for a solo female? For the most part - 99.9% - yes. I've never heard of any harassment in the Algonquin backcountry.
In the fall, I would not expect to see a lot of people on the trail. Probably 1-3 groups of hikers each day. The campsites are fairly secluded, so there won't be anyone around at night.
As for cell phone reception: there is reception along the highway, but expect none on the backpacking trails.
I'll remember that for next time. I've already packed it all away, but I might drag it out and take some pics. My foot is pretty banged up so it'll be a minute. But Ill give you a short list :)
Pack: Osprey Exos 58
Sleeping Bag: Teton Sports Tracker
Tent: ALPS Mountaineering Lynx 1
Tarp: Ultimate Survival Hex tarp
Mess kit: Mess kit and Mug
Water Filtration: Sawyer Mini
Tools/Defense: Note: Normally I would only take one knife, but I wasn't sure which I would prefer as they're two quite different blades. Ka-Bar Becker BK2, Condor Bushlore, and Bear Spray
Stove: MSR PocketRocket
First Aid: I had the Adventure Medical Kits Day Tripper, and then added to that with Celox and an Israeli Bandage
Trekking Poles: Cascade Mountain Tech CF with Cork Grips
In addition I had a few little things in a small kit; Ferro rod, duct tape, trail blazes, chemical water purifiers in case my Sawyer failed, bug spray, a small thing of sunscreen (which I didn't end up needing as it was overcast), deodorant, TP, etc.
You can get a filter that has chemical filtration capability for as low as $50.
http://www.amazon.com/Katadyn-8018270-Hiker-Microfilter/dp/B0047QV0AM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1462453899&sr=8-1&keywords=Hiker+Microfilter
.2Micron and less gallons than the life straw posted.
You should absolutely plan for your particular area. 38% of ground water wells in California have high levels of arsenic. Source. The increased levels of arsenic will not kill you out right but will cause a increased chance of things like cancer.
If money is a concern I suggest building your own filter. It's actually pretty easy and cheap. Cheaper than that mylar blanket actually. Here is a good article.
Day One I'll have about 35 lbs (15.45 kg) of weight. This is my first time so there are probably several items in there I'll never take with me again, but I'd like to try 'em out once; I also have a shit sleeping bag that desperately needs upgraded. If you want specs, just ask and I'll happily share my spreadsheet!
Edit: The List
The Gear
The Food
I use this Ketadyn filter and then this Steripen UV purifier if the water is from a lake. If taking water from a running river, then I don't usually steripen.
hmmm, I see 7 gallon Jerry Cans, wonder if I could ferment in these guys too...amazon link
It's still very available. I use it quite a bit.
https://www.amazon.com/Polar-Pure-Iodine-Purifier-Sterilizes/dp/B00N5AGT1Q/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?keywords=Polar+pure&pldnSite=1&qid=1563745529&s=gateway&sr=8-1
Sawyer Squeeze (not mini) and Katadyn BeFree are great water filters. AquaMira makes great drops.
Check out our wiki on Water for more info.
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Yes, polyester is a fine choice for t-shirts. It's a synthetic material that dries quickly and wicks sweat.
Merino wool would be another fabric that works well for hiking/camping.
Katahdin microfilter. It is a pump filter and as long as you maintain it and run clean water after your trip you will have a quality filter for a long time.
https://www.amazon.com/Katadyn-8018273-Hiker-Pro-Microfilter/dp/B002CN82V2/ref=sr_1_1?s=boost&srs=12034909011&ie=UTF8&qid=1495471794&sr=8-1&keywords=katahdin+water+filter
Something like this?
I have one and it fit my tablet and everything when I was traveling. I did use a collapsible water bottle when I traveled.
Alexapure Pro Stainless Steel Water Filtration System - 5,000 Gallon Throughput Capacity https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01G0Q61YQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_Tc71BbH4EQ1N1
The sawyer squeeze is just a better filter than the life straws. It has better flow and is more functional because of the threading on it and closeable cap. The best way to go is you get a durable bag type water bottle like this
Then you attach the Sawyer squeeze and you can squeeze out 3 liters super fast to fill up other containers like your hydration carrier or water bottles.
I'm kind of in the same boat as you are. Started backpacking maybe about 2 months ago and had a ton of old gear. Carrying 35 lbs over 26 miles was no fun, and when I came back home to research lighter stuff I kept finding things that were hundreds of dollars a piece. I did a ton of research and found some good quality gear at a budget level.
Mind the formatting/spelling errors. On mobile.
Tent - $70 - Geertop 1 Person 3 Season 20D Ultralight Backpacking Tent for Camping Hiking Climbing (Trekking Poles NOT Included)(Inner Tent is Green) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01J9XWJEI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_hE-PBbG3XQVVQ
Sleeping System (2 parts)
Quilt - $35 - Double Black Diamond Packable Down Throw with Stuff Sack, 60" x 70" (Peacock) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079YX2W79/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_.F-PBbJ5R45V4
Pad - $40 - WellaX Ultralight Air Sleeping Pad – Inflatable Camping Mat for Backpacking, Traveling and Hiking Air Cell Design for Better Stability & Support –Plus Repair Kit (Green) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076PHYVD8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_60-PBbA71XR3R
*note I sleep warm and wear layers. I found the quilt to be good for 3 season camping in the temperate CA conditions. The pad helps with the cold and I'm a side sleeper so the pad is a requirement for me. YMMV.
Poles - $22 (needed for the tent listed above) - BAFX Products - 2 Pack - Anti Shock Hiking / Walking / Trekking Trail Poles - 1 Pair, Blue, Royal Blue https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007YT854S/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_sI-PBb1S6HSMG
Cook pot - $11 - G4Free Outdoor Camping pan Hiking Cookware Backpacking Cooking Picnic Bowl Pot Pan Set 4 Piece Camping Cookware Mess Kit(2 PCS-Green) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MQSHG3N/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fK-PBb0YKV8R3
I cook simple meals that mostly require just boiling water. It's also large enough to fit my soap, stove, and gas can in.
Stove - $14 - Etekcity Ultralight Portable Outdoor Backpacking Camping Stove with Piezo Ignition https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B4FY8YO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_dM-PBb3M334JD
Water filtration (4 parts)
Dirty water bag - $20 - Cnoc Outdoors Vecto 2L Water Container, 28mm, Orange https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075NQT5KP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_DN-PBbFGE74F0
Clean water bag - $13 - Platypus Platy 2-Liter Ultralight Collapsible Water Bottle https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000J2KEGY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_CO-PBbZ2HXVZV
Filter - $37 - Sawyer Products SP137 PointOne Squeeze Water Filter System with 16-Ounce Pouch, Straw, and Hydration Pack Adapters https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00WG9AFW6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_1P-PBbX4F8JW4
Filter attachment - $3 - Sawyer Products SP150 Coupling for Water Filtration Cleaning https://www.amazon.com/dp/B018NJC1A6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_YQ-PBbDFGGM0D
With this water system you have the option of gravity feeding your water supply at camp. You can also simplify by just buying the $37 kit and just squeeze directly into your water bottle/bladder, but I find this setup more convenient.
After that, the rest are kind of up to you. Food, clothes, etc. I wouldn't skimp on shoes though. Look into trail runners or hiking SHOES (not boots).
Optional things I'd look into is paracord and a tarp especially if you're going to camp in the rain. You can also look into hammock camping which would be a little more budget friendly than the tent + blanket option.
Overall there are definitely cheaper options but I find this to be a good balance of price, weight, and convenience.
All in all this is about $265.
These are pretty well liked in the camping community, and they are pretty well made IMO
https://www.amazon.com/Reliance-Products-Aqua-Tainer-Gallon-Container/dp/B001QC31G6/ref=sr_1_4?crid=188BU925CUZ5H&dchild=1&keywords=reliance+aqua-tainer+7+gal+water+container&qid=1571190451&sprefix=reliance+%2Caps%2C247&sr=8-4
This is a more common shape
https://www.amazon.com/Reliance-Products-Jumbo-Tainer-Gallon-Container/dp/B000GKDFH4/ref=sr_1_5?crid=188BU925CUZ5H&dchild=1&keywords=reliance+aqua-tainer+7+gal+water+container&qid=1571190481&sprefix=reliance+%2Caps%2C247&sr=8-5
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I've got a pair of the reliance desert tanks. They have poor reviews, but I've been bouncing them around the desert for about 5 years without a leak.
I got the gallon Sawyer bag with the Sawyer mini and I’m surprised how much I like it. The gallon bag is bulkier to pack, but the handle makes it a lot easier to fill. The gravity fill system is pretty easy to use, if a little slow. I use Smart Water bottles for clean water while backpacking.
It’s an especially great system if you’re collecting water for multiple people, or setting up base camp for a couple days. The big bag means fewer trips to the creek!
lifestraws are dope.
get the lifestraw universal kit
https://www.amazon.com/LifeStraw-Universal-Adapter-Hydroflask-Camelbak/dp/B074WJDZYK/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1522185651&sr=8-7&keywords=lifestraw+go+water+bottle+with+filter
i also like the ketadyn filter as well....do a search for those on amazon or rei
Sawyer in-line. Cannot sing the praises of this thing enough:
http://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Quick-Release-Inline-Water-Filter/dp/B0034VR8ES/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1346301982&sr=8-3&keywords=sawyer+water+purifier
There was a guide on what to do if you get your snowmobile stuck, I can't find it but that may be useful (look for it in this subreddit).
Here's a few helpful things to get, in this order:
Water canteens
Thermal blanket
High protein food (like Nature Valley Peanut Granola bar, nuts, etc.)
Warm clothes, maybe a jacket, sleeping bag, etc.
Snow shovel
Tire chains
Battery backup for your phone
Definitely stay with the car, someone might come along and be of help (maybe not though). Don't leave work or home without a fully charged phone and battery backup. It doesn't seem like you'll be there very long, so don't worry too much, but if you are going to be there more than 24 hours, make a shelter with the solar/thermal blanket and your car doors, and make a fire if you can... might be useful to carry some fire starters and a hatchet.
http://www.amazon.com/Katadyn-8013418-Survivor-06-Desalinator/dp/B000F395X0
I use a Katadyn Hiker filter. Easy to use, no waiting for chemicals to work, long-lasting cartridge.
How bout that Brain Force product that was advertised in the video? do you use that?
They're Choline pills.
Brain force you get 156mg of Choline (2pills) for $30.
Choline Supliment you can get 600mg Choline (2pills) for $19
Its literally cut and re-branded Choline, the products claims are literally the same effects as Choline supplements. You're paying 6x markup for Choline.
The profit margin for the product is between 2-5x. that's why you see 50% off as the deal.
The man's smart and has been running the same business model for over a decade. Making products, and promoting content to sell those products to the viewership. its the old "We have a terrible problem and I have the solution conveniently right here for you for only $19.99" strategy, add in some emotional trigger lines like "protect yourself and your family"
That water filter looks like its a well functioning product when it works, a reverse osmosis machine will still save you in the long run. (for the cost of 2 filter changes for an Alexa pure filtration setup, you can buy a reverse osmosis system and have it run for half a decade.)
NSF Certified Resverse Osmosos Machine $136, filters last a year. $25 filter set. standardized filter sizes through the industry. no brand locked filters.
Reverse osmosis membranes have a pore size of 0.0001 micron. The most cost effective system type if you have water pressure. filters over an order of magnitude better than sand filter systems.
Alexapure Water filtration system $156
Passes all filtering standards for public consumption also has some problems , $90 filters
Big Berkey Stainless Steel Water Filtration System not so great product reviews,
Passes all filtering standards for public consumption with higher reductions than the Alexapure product. $258 , $50 filters
cheaper filters. setup becomes cheaper long-term after 3 filter changes. product also has some problems, but seemingly less
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I think any time you are looking for something that can deal with sea water, it's probably an emergency desalinator that is kept as standard equipment on life rafts and such. But unfortunately this type of pump desalinators are exceptionally expensive.
There are cheaper options using reverse osmosis kits but are still fairly expensive for the purpose of handling water (i.e. one time use kit), in addition to requiring quite some time for them to work.
Hey sorry to necro this, but do you need a hydration pack to use this? Going to be doing a lot of hiking next summer - I've always carried water in for most of my trips, as they're usually only a few days, but it's about time I convert to a filter I think. What is the flow rate with this? I was looking at the quick release version, seemed to get outstanding reviews: http://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Quick-Release-Inline-Water-Filter/dp/B0034VR8ES/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1349042010&sr=1-1&keywords=sawyer+3-way
I have http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005QI8KKI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005QI8M5Q/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005QI8S46/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
on the way. The ability to fill the bladder without taking everything off is going to be awesome.
Here is the mobile version of your link
That's pretty cool, a bit pricey and slower than I'd like (1.6 gal per hour of hand operation) but useful for sure.
Anyone know how the Sawyer compares to the Survivor Filter?
Ooohhhh. I’m going to jump in here, and suggest what I use. I use a katadyn filter unit, it’s one you could probably grab from any outdoor rec place. I’m going to link to it on amazon, just so I know you know what I’m talking about. It has a micron filter, you could go to Mexico and find the dirtiest shittiest puddle their is, filter from it, and not get sick.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B002CN82V2/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1520439185&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=katadyn+hiker+pro+water+microfilter&dpPl=1&dpID=41Ic1VVqN8L&ref=plSrch
What size Rucker?
The Rucker capacity is measured in liters. In the beautiful consistent logic of the Metric system, 1 liter of water = 1 kg (2.2 lbs).
So, the smallest 15 liter Rucker should be able to hold around 30 pounds (15l x 2.2 lbs. = 33 lbs., but that's under ideal jug form factor conditions).
However, that particular bladder holds only 20 pounds. You can get smaller bottles to add weight.
Water filters. Use iodine unless you're in an area where you're drinking out of stagnant, opaque, or fecally polluted sources.
Iodine is NOT toxic, doesn't break like a filter can, doesn't get clogged, doesn't weigh more than a few ounces and doesn't cost an arm and a leg. You can also use it to treat open wounds on the trail (or at home).
One bottle of PolarPure will probably last a lifetime. I'm still using a bottle I bought in 1988.
http://www.amazon.com/Plastic-Water-Can-Gallon-Desert/dp/B005E0U9YS
I'm pretty sure it only disinfects because it gets heated up. Sadly, that's only UV-C radiation that does that, and that is filtered out almost 100% by the atmosphere. UV-A and UV-B doesn't really do this. You CAN however buy a steripen for clear water
http://www.amazon.com/SteriPEN-Traveler-Portable-Handheld-Purifier/dp/B0041EB6EU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1416079178&sr=8-1&keywords=steripen
If you really want to go techy, you could rig a hand crank flash light to double as a AA battery charger and have virtually unlimited purifications, but then it's getting overly complicated and you might as well have just used the iodine.
EDIT: I just looked it up, turns out UV-A IS in fact enough to do disrupt the DNA structure of pathogens.
http://modernsurvivalblog.com/health/how-to-purify-water-with-sunlight/