Best camping & hiking water filters according to redditors
We found 523 Reddit comments discussing the best camping & hiking water filters. We ranked the 83 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the top 20.
We found 523 Reddit comments discussing the best camping & hiking water filters. We ranked the 83 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the top 20.
$18.39 for approximately 99736 more gallons of actual safe drinking water
A few more ideas :
I would suggest having a battery-powered FM radio (and extra batteries if it's battery powered, or get one which charges via USB like the one I linked) to listen to the news and get vital information.
Also (if not too late), order a sawyer mini (best) or lifestraw (not as good). If you don't have access to clean water it can help you stay healthy (beware of chemical contamination which cannot be removed by these).
If you have the money, get a Garmin inReach satellite communicator (requires a (relatively cheap) subscription, down to $15ish a month). You can request SOS (much like 911), and send/receive SMS and e-mails, even without cell coverage. Excellent to keep in touch with relatives and in case of emergency. Can be used year-round when hiking, snow-mobile, skiing, ... Don't tell anyone you have this...
Download the offline map of your area on Google Maps on your phone beforehand. Can be priceless to navigate around and doesn't require internet access. Also get the Maps.Me app and download the map of your area too. Google Maps offline maps will expire and disappear from your phone after 30 days (I believe), Maps.Me maps will not.
If the cell service in your area is out of order, use your phone in airplane mode so that it doesn't continuously and desperately looks for a cell to connect to, which will drain the battery VERY quickly. Also use it on the lowest practical brightness setting to save battery power.
If not too late, get big USB power banks (>=10000mAh such as this one) and fully charge them beforehand. It's good as barter items and it can be nice to recharge your things when you have no access to a generator (on the go, or if you don't want to run the generator to avoid attracting attention). You can also get USB lights (this one for instance) and your powerbank doubles as a flashlight with a very long battery life.
Get a first aid kit, and not just one with bandaids... Get a CAT tourniquet, trauma dressing, Celox (preferred) or QuikClot bandage, triangular bandage, SAM splint, ... and know how to use them. Also get the basic medecines (stomach/diarrhea relief, basic painkillers, anti-allergy, and any prescription medecine if you require any). Remember 911 service may be unavailable for some time and you need to be able to take care of injuries. Tourniquets save lives, everyone should have one readily available.
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I am a radio amateur and in these situations I like to have one or two portable radio for two-way communication but I realize it is not for everybody. Still, a pair of FRS/GMRS radio can be helpful. Please note that GMRS requires a (cheap) license in the USA. I would recommend this model which also allows to be used as a scanner and to program the NOAA weather frequencies (do it beforehand) and some local police/EMS/fire frequencies (if allowed in your juridiction).
Please DO NOT use a radio made for amateur radio use, where you can transmit on any frequency, such as the UV-5R; you may interfere with emergency communications, even if you can't hear them, miles away. Please stick to the FRS/GMRS frequencies. The radio above guarantees safe operation and still allows to be used as a scanner.
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Take pictures of all your important documents (ID, properties, ...) and store them in a waterproof plastic bag. Try to keep at least your passport and driver license with you during the storm...
If you have a sump pump, try to arrange so that it can be battery powered and/or connected to your generator. If using battery power, get a battery charger and/or a generator connection, if the outage lasts and the battery runs down. Sometimes homes are not affected by the main storm but are flooded due to the lack of power around the storm and are still ruined, and that's totally preventable.
Also, beforehand, depending of the situation you might want to BLOCK your main sewage pipe. This way you might avoid sewage backflow into your home. There are normally valves already installed but in case of serious flooding (high backpressure) they sometimes are not up to the task.
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Download a few offline movies on the Netflix app (if you have Netflix). I never lived though a hurricane but I assume after a few days/weeks, you might want some entertainment. You can also download e-books. Bonus if it's survival-related e-books.
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Hope this helps... good luck to those affected
PS: oooo, thank you stranger for the gold, I think I never had one before ! Happy prepping :)
Life straw is not a great product. Spend a little extra and get the Sawyer. It is a better, more useful product. It just doesn't have as cool of a name.
I went through a few of your videos and checked out the subjects of each of them. As a recommendation, if you're putting videos together for broke ass preppers, it would probably be useful to start off with some real basics. Like for example, the cheap stove tops and fuel videos are interesting, but they don't mean much if you don't have anything to cook. So other than Ramen, people new to prepping could probably benefit from a guide on:
Etc.
Getting people to get just a month's worth of food built up in their pantry would be an amazingly useful feat, even if it had to occur over time. Especially for minimum wage folks who have bills to pay, there will be times that they have emergencies that they need cash for, and having a stocked pantry means that they can be prepped for redirecting those funds.
Similar for water. Your video was interesting to watch, but if you're asking someone to invest in water purification tablets, then it's just as reasonable to ask them to snag a Sawyer Water Filter for $20. It might have made that stream water you were drinking a little more palatable. There are other cheap tricks as well to clear that up a bit, like using coffee filters to pre-filter the water which will extend your filter's life and get a lot of little things out a bit better than a hanky. It might be good to research tips and tricks like that and include them in a new water video. And then there's also grabbing some flats of bottled water to rotate through at the house. You can easily get a week's worth of water in bottles pretty inexpensively at the right places, and having good clean drinking water on hand for a minor emergency is better than having to filter run off stream water.
The video's on MRE's and gadgets and do-dads are cool and add good flavor to your channel, but imo... the biggest parts of prepping on a budget are the fundamentals, and those seem to be missing from your library at the moment. I'd be more likely to recommend it for others to view if you did a really good job covering those.
Those are not designed to purify water.
You want these guys: http://www.amazon.com/Potable-Aqua-Water-Purification-Tablets/dp/B0009I3T3S/
Or these: http://www.amazon.com/McNett-Aquamira-Water-Treatment-Drops/dp/B00CHRFQPI
filter? check out the Sawyer Mini: http://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-SP128-Filtration-System/dp/B00FA2RLX2
if you're in a pinch, do a little homework with using ordinary bleach ... or prepare to boil
Titanium Pot - 28 oz savings ($35)
Drop The mug, just use your pot - 4 oz savings (free)
Trowel instead of shovel - 16 oz savings ($20)
Drop the solar panel (doesn't really work well on the move) - 10-ish savings (free)
Sawyer Squeeze instead of Katadyn - 8 oz savings ($30)
Dance Pants instead of packed pants - 14 oz saved ($18) although you probably dont need these since you're wearing zip off pants
I would add a puffy to your clothing, it will get pretty cold - 10 oz gained (can be found on sale for $40)
Leave the extra shirts at home - 12 oz saved (free)
Just bring one extra payer of underwear and socks - 6 oz saved (free)
Leave campshoes at home - 23 oz saved (free)
I really don't know what the survival kit contains, but it can probably be paired down or eliminated
Don't know what the carabiners are for if you're hanging stuff outside your pack you're bringing too much - 4 oz saved (free)
Don't know what the tarp is for the sierras, you already have a tent
125 oz saved or almost 8 pounds. Coming in at a cost around $150.
I would start here and then look at replacing your bigger items. The easiest one to save the most weight would be your pack.
Hope this helps!
Get a sawyer mini instead, about the same price and you don't have to bend down and stick your face in the water.
Sawyer Products SP128 Mini Water Filtration System, Single, Blue https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FA2RLX2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_1FJXCbNV7FQ2S
I used:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0047QV0AM/ref=mp_s_a_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1482642857&sr=1-9&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65
(Mobile, sorry).
And hiked in an empty plastic jug. Worked great. Aim for the fast moving water, and you'll be fine.
I've recently bought a lot of this stuff after doing a good amount of research. Here are my recommendations:
Tent - I would get an Alps tent if you want a good value tent but aren't as worried about weight. How many people will you be going with?
Sleeping Bag - I have this sleeping bag which I absolutely love, but I haven't been able to find it online since I bought it. It packs as small as down sleeping bags but costs a fraction of the price and will still keep you warm in 30 degree weather (which it's done for me).
Pack - I just bought the Osprey Volt 75L which I think is a great value even though I haven't used it yet. I got it for $140 on amazon and the 60L version is less expensive than that. I'm not sure if this pack is bulletproof but it has great reviews and Osprey products are known for their high quality.
Cooking- I use this pot which works perfectly with a pocket rocket. I'm not sure what you mean by fire making equipment but if it's not below freezing or at a high altitude, the gas canisters are the most efficient and reliable way to cook food. Also, they're extremely light. If you're using a fire to cook you'll need a heavier duty pot/pan.
Clothes - I just look for good deals and buy when I find one. Get a good shell that's waterproof and breathable. I have a Marmot Nano AS Jacket that I love. Just make sure you have a baselayer that wicks sweat away and other layers that can pack down. DON'T USE ANY COTTON CLOTHES!
Tools - Other than a knife I have found any tools that are useful for their weight. If you have a solid knife you should be good.
Misc - Here's other things in my list for camping/backpacking:
Sleeping Pad - I use the Alps Sleeping Pad. You definitely need a sleeping pad if you're camping in colder weather for the insulating properties. You'll lose a significant amount of heat through the cold hard ground without a pad. The Alps pad is a little heavier but they're very durable and a great value.
Paracord - It's always useful to have paracord for different things.
Water Filter - You need this if you're going to the backcountry. It's not realistic to bring enough water with you for a weeklong trip. I have use this MSR water filter and the Sawyer Squeeze. The MSR filter costs more, but works very well and is fairly durable. The Sawyer Filter weighs almost nothing, but it's a little more difficult to use and definitely more difficult if you're trying to filter large quantities of water.
Not everyone will agree with everything on my list, but I try to find the best value in my gear. I look for the best value in terms of price, quality, weight, and packability. There are higher quality options that weigh less but cost more. There are other lower quality options that cost less. You'll have to decide what your balance is, but this should be a good list to get you started.
You just need to have what you might need, BOBs are generally for evacuations whereas what you are describing is just normal day to day things. I'll try to make a list anyway but you'll have to add things you want to have.
Since you don't plan on carrying this the bag could just be a large backpack, or even a duffle bag. You don't need the tacticool hi-speed lo-drag coolest BOB out there.
I would divide things into categories and keep them in their own dividers. For instance, you could get 2 of something like this and some sort of larger bag for all your clothing. It will make it much easier than just having a bag full of stuff. You could probably fit most clothing in one, and just have the jacket and jeans outside of it. You could also vacuum seal your clothing into compact flat bags to make them easier to handle.
Clothing
3 - comfortable t-shirts. You could even just buy a pack of 3 hanes shirts for the purpose.
1 - Jacket - just in case it's winter time
3 - underwear, whatever kind you wear
1 - athletic shorts
1 - pair of jeans
3 - pairs of socks
1 - towel? If they will provide showers but not towels
Toiletries
(all this should be travel sized, they sell everything I will name at walmart in travel sizes for $1)
1 - toothpaste
1 - toothbrush
1 - Shampoo/conditioner
1 - body wash (bar soap sucks to store after 1 use)
1 - deoderant (will melt and leak in a hot car, even the white powder kind. Keep this in mind
1 - pack of baby wipes. These are good for a 'hobo shower' which is likely what will be available to you. I would still bring the other stuff though just in case, and you can always wash your hair with a bucket of water to rinse.
Medications
These will spoil in a hot car, but you should keep a few days supply of any medications you might need on you somehow, or if there is a way to store them at the office do that (maybe they can be locked in a cabinet or something?) I'd keep them in an old prescription bottle with your info on it, you can scratch out the medicine name if you want.)
EXTRA GLASSES if you wear contacts or glasses.
Electronics
A completely spare phone charger that you will never remove from the bag unless you literally have no other choice. This cannot be left at home because you took it out and forgot to put it back in.
Other chargers for whatever you might need. If you might have your iPad for instance, bring a charger for that if it's different than phone.
You can consider a charging battery pack like this (I am not recommending that model though, it's first on Amazon)
Food
Don't know what kind of facilities they would have, but you can bring dehydrated food if there will be a way to boil water. If not you're going to have to stick with ready to eat foods like jerky, pop-tarts, tuna packets, granola bars, etc. Whatever you like, you won't want to be eating shitty food you hate in this situation.
Water
Typical recommendations are 1 gallon/person/day so that's 3 gallons. That's a lot of water to store, but if you need to then I'd recommend a case or two of water in the car. You want to switch these out every once in a while as plastic leeches into the water after a while. Just switch it every few months or so. You can also get a nalgene bottle and keep that full, but that's not even a days worth of drinking water.
If you somehow think you'll have non-potable water available and need a filter then I'd recommend this for cheap, this for a more pricey option that can also be more easily shared with others.
If you think you'll need to boil water/cook food you should be fine with this and a can of butane fuel for it. This you don't want to leave in a florida car in the summer either though.
You're asking a very broad question while looking for specifics, making it very hard to pinpoint an answer. I'll give my advice on bug out bag items.
The bag itself - Should be a solid backpacking bag. Keep it light enough that it's manageable. For a very fit individual, the max weight should be your body weight divided by 3. Most of us are not that fit, so adjust accordingly. It should have hip support, well stitched straps, several compartments and a way to attach things to the outside (molle webbing, carabiner loops or exterior straps). Should be weatherproof.
Water - Depends entirely on your location. I live in Canada - Land of lakes and rivers. I wont need to carry a ton of water all the time. I've got a sawyer squeeze as my primary water filter. The collapsible water bottles it comes with work great for water storage as well. Wife and daughter carry a lifestraw as backups. We have some iodine drops as well.
As far as water carrying devices go, i find nalgene bottles work great. Theyre light and strong, and come in various sizes. A canteen is great if you want to use it to cook over a fire. Its not a bad idea either to have a large (5 litre+) collapsible water container. They're plastic and light. I havn't used mine extensively enough to recommend.
Sharp Things - I've got a Kabar as my primary fixed blade. It's tried and true. Good metal, full tang. I've got a leatherman wave multitool. Carry it everyday on my belt. Super handy. I should really add a 3-4" folding knife to my pack as sometimes the kabar is too big, and the multitool is hard to clean.
I also carry a Cold steel shovel. I looked into folding shovels, and they didnt seem reliable. Moving parts means they're more likely to fail. I haven't used this one extensively, but the few times i have tried it, its done an excellent job. If your pack's too heavy, put this one in your car.
Food - Your typical protein bars, dried rice/bean mix, snickers, small jar of PB, oatmeal and dehydrated fruit. A small bit of olive oil packs a ton of calories and adds flavour. It's good to have a small container of salt and pepper, or other spices to add flavour. You can grab MRE's or those mountainhouse dried meals, but theyre expensive. If you regularly buy pepperettes or jerkey, stick some in your bag and rotate it out when you buy it next. Multivitamins can keep you up if youre not getting a ton of food, but dont rely on them. Bring any meds you need, as well as tylenol or aspirin.
Hygiene - Pack a couple rolls of TP. Toothbrush, toothpaste, deodorant (chuck if too much weight), wash cloth, soap, soap for clothing, feminine products (if applicable), couple garbage bags (can separate dirty clothes), wet wipes, lip balm, hand sanitizer. Sun screen and bug spray in small bottles.
Clothing - Carry at least 7 pairs of good socks. Some warm ones if the location's cold. Extra shirts, underwear are essential. Pants/shorts and sweater are optional (besides whatever you're wearing). Stick your clothing in a waterproof sack. Try to keep only clean, dry clothes in there (no airflow + damp = mold).
-Paracord and rope
-Carabiners
-Sewing kit
-Tent patching kit (if you have a tent or a tarp)
-Tarp (who saw that coming). Doesn't have to be massive. Just know how to set it up to keep you dry.
-Fire Source. Have many. Lighters are cheap, stash away a bunch (7?). The lighter leash is awesome. You should be able to find that cheap at a corner store. Storm matches, for when its rainy. I think these are what I got. You can light them in any weather, put them under water, and they'll still be lit. Not a bad idea to carry regualr matches in a waterproof container. Firestarter packets are great. I just soak cotton balls in Vaseline. Flint and steel is cool, but only useful if youve exhausted all other fire starting methods.
-Super Glue
-Safety pins
-Zip ties
-Light. Hand crank flashlight is awesome. If you have a battery powered one, carry spare batteries. The mini maglite has a belt holster. Those small LED flashlights are great too. Grab a few glowsticks.
-fork and spoon
-emergency blanket or emergency sleeping bag. Only useful if you're SOL.
-poncho
-sleeping bag for your location. If its warm you don't need this. Can use a hammock or sleeping pad. Try and keep these small as they take up a ton of space.
-Compass. Useful if you have a map.
-Map of your location/where youre going.
-Signal mirror and a good whistle.
-Fishing supplies. I've got an emmrod. You can put a fairly small cheap reel on here. I've got the shimano ix2000. It casts a pretty good distance. Hooks, weights, bobs etc. Can all fit in small waterproof containers or camera film containers. Dont forget line! Mines already on the reel. A fishing vest gives you lots of little pockets to keep things in arms reach.
-First Aid kit. There's extensive lists online depending on how large you want it. Some gauze, band aids, polysporin, burn cream are a good start. Try and build it yourself, don't buy the gimmikey premade ones. Keep yours in a waterproof Tupperware container.
-Tiny roll of Gorilla Tape
-Games. Some dice and a deck of cards go a long way. Don't underestimate the value of laughter. If a sudden collapse ever happens, these might save you from depression.
-Headlamp. I've got this rayovac one (i think). Seems easy on batteries and has lasted a few camping trips. Haven't put serious use on it tho.
-Eating equipment. A mug and a small plate go a long way. A folding pan goes a long way, but is heavy. I would love to learn to use a pressure cooker over fires.
-Handkerchief or travel kleenex
-Bandanas. 3 of them.
-Bungee cords can be useful, but they run the risk of snapping and taking out an eye.
-Ziplock bags are handy. Keeps a lot of small things organized and dry.
-Pencils, Pens, notepad/book, sharpie.
-Hatchet is useful, but heavy. Take one if you can. The sven saw is awesome and hasn't broke on me yet.
-Spare pair of glasses (if applicable)
-Some sort of firearm is almost necessary. I don't have one yet, but i was planning on a 10/22 takedown. It's small and easy to pack. Bullets are light. If you need more stopping power than a .22, you're in a heap of trouble. Guns are not my specialty (can you guess), so ill leave it up to you
-In lieu of a firearm, you could grab a crossbow. If that's still too much, a good slingshot will do great.
-phone booklet and address's. In case your phone craps out and you cant charge it.
-A small windable clock is great. A solar watch is better. I think thats the one i have.
All this stuff is useless unless you know how to use it. Do your research, take some courses. Learn the necessary skills to survive, because that's what's really necessary. I like Les Stroud's (survivorman) book Survive!. Learn to tie knots, fish, hunt, forage, fight, build a fire in all conditions, etc.
If you have questions on the use of any of the above items, ask away. Any advice or suggestions, I welcome those too.
Sawyer Squeeze Water filter. You will be tempted to get the Sawyer mini instead, and save a few dollars and a miniscule amount of weight. Don't. Get the Squeeze instead.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B1OSU4W/ref=twister_B01MY8CBXB?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Sawyer Squeeze is only $20 on amazon right now https://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-SP129-Filtration-Squeezable/dp/B00B1OSU4W?psc=1&SubscriptionId=AKIAI2TWEDSMJWGPXOQQ&tag=camelanonalerts-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B00B1OSU4W
Get the Sawyer mini instead for $19: http://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-SP128-Filtration-System/dp/B00FA2RLX2
Anyone looking at this should look at the Sawyer as a (better) alternative.
Lifestraw:
Sawyer filter:
Lifestraw is $20. Sawyer is $20. I own the Sawyer and the flow through it is easy. It comes with a squeeze bag, but also attaches to regular bottles. Fill an empty Pepsi/Coke/Water bottle with nasty water, screw on the Sawyer and you are good to go. It works with Platypus bags, and as an inline or end filter for any hydration bladder.
If there is something special about the Lifestraw that I am missing, please let me know. I see tons of news, charaties buying them for 3rd world countries, and outdoor enthusiast recommending it. I do not see any advantage it has over a Sawyer filter.
Edit: One comparison: http://prepforshtf.com/sawyer-mini-water-filter-vs-lifestraw/
For me, the multiple ways of using the Sawyer have been the biggest benefit. I've used my Squeeze in a bucket gravity system, attached to bottles (ultralight backpacking) and with a straw (like a Lifestraw). I will often squeeze enough water to fill a Gatorade bottle or two before moving away from the water source. Now I have the mini and the flow rate is even better - best of any filter I've ever used, and it is still incredibly versatile.
/u/fetch04 is right. You are going to want to learn from youtube and practice before you show your son.
-Skills you will want to acquire:
-Basic equipment you'll want:
-Resources
Drop the Life Straw and use a Sawyer Mini.
Sawyer Products SP128 Mini Water Filtration System, Single, Blue https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FA2RLX2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_MzGzDbKTT58GD
I have an in-line attachment for hydration pack.
There’s a little pump too.
Water Purifier Pump with Replaceable Carbon 0.01 Micron Water Filter, 4 Filter Stages, Portable Outdoor Emergency and Survival Gear - Camping, Hiking, Backpacking https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NVCBWVV/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_MBGzDbY1W35D3
Posted this in the Nov 19th chat just yesterday, but figured it's worth reposting here since that thread closed almost immediately after I posted:
In-store picture of the green: https://imgur.com/a/81bZk. If you're crafty, you can also buy Old Navy/Gap giftcards for about 20% off to further reduce the price.
Sawyer Mini water filter. $20 Arguably the best lightweight backpacking filter available.
Also, the Leatherman Squirt is on my backpacking wishlist this year.
Instead of the lifestraw, I would suggest one of the sawyer filters.
Get you a Sawyer gravity drip. Pumping gets old really quick. Just fill the bladder and relax while your water vessel of choice gets filled.
Sawyer Products SP160 One-Gallon Gravity Water Filtration System with Dual-Threaded Mini Filter https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XZVBSMX/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_y2QgDbXQ3M671
Protip: the amount you have to purge in backflow will be determined by how dirty the source water is.
https://www.amazon.ca/Sawyer-Products-SP105-Filtration-System/dp/B00TOX6UM6
We use these for back country camping and they work very well. $30 for treated drinkable water.
Sawyer mini for $15.46
No, let me recommend you something much better,
https://www.amazon.ca/Survivor-Filter-Multi-Purpose-Performance-Replaceable/dp/B00LA97I8M/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
Long lasting, cheap replaceable components, blows LifeStraw out of the water ( pun intended)
I don't understand why y'all keep going for Lifestraws. Do you intend to have a cup with you, or to lay on the ground to have a drink? A Sawyer setup is more portable since you can fill a pouch with water and keep going. Bonus: it costs the same or a fistful of dollars more than a Lifestraw.
Take a look at the Sawyer Squeeze good for 1 million gallons with cleaning. I use it for backpacking. I work in outdoor retail and I will say that weve been having people report problems, including myself, with the O ring coming unseated and leaking dirty water, sometimes into the clean water. I really like the system overall though.
There is a lot wrong with this list, so I'm just going to work down it one by one with my thoughts on the matter.
USB flameless lighter? Why? That is going to be unreliable, at best. Throw a few BIC lighters and some stormproof matches in there and be done with it. IF you want to be fancy, get something built to be rugged, that will stand up to use in the field:
https://www.amazon.ca/Ultimate-Survival-Technologies-Floating-Lighter/dp/B00C85NBA6/ref=sr_1_2?s=sports&ie=UTF8&qid=1482173178&sr=1-2&keywords=camping+lighter
Speaking of, I didn't see any sort of firestarting material. Warmth is going to be important, and you need as few steps as possible between you and fire. Get some quality firestarters. I am trying to keep all my links relevant from amazon.ca, so some of the brands I'm most familiar with aren't there. But these work well (though there are options from Wetfire and other brands that take up less space):
https://www.amazon.ca/Ultimate-Survival-Technologies-Fire-Stix/dp/B00C6SHODK/ref=sr_1_20?s=sports&ie=UTF8&qid=1482173338&sr=1-20&keywords=emergency+fire+starter
What is with the mall-ninja "tactical" hatchet? That is a lot of weight and not a lot of utility. You'd be better served with a reliable and lightweight folding saw, and a good full-tang fixed-blade knife. Something like a 7 inch Corona saw:
https://www.amazon.ca/Corona-Cutting-Tools-RS-7041/dp/B00004R9YN/ref=sr_1_1?s=sports&ie=UTF8&qid=1482173467&sr=1-1&keywords=corona+folding+saw
If you insist on carrying a hatchet (and their function in a bugout situation is debatable, especially for the weight) get something quality like an Estwing:
https://www.amazon.ca/Estwing-E24A-14-Inch-Sportmans-Sheath/dp/B00BNQR4SG/ref=sr_1_1?s=sports&ie=UTF8&qid=1482173510&sr=1-1&keywords=estwing+hatchet
Nothing wrong with duct tape, but you'd do well to wrap just maybe 3-4 meters of it around a small core (like from doggy waste bags, or even just around itself).
The self-crank radio/flashlight/phone charger is shit. You also don't need four lights, especially if all of them are crap. Buy one good flashlight, and maybe one good headlamp.
A flashlight like a Nitecore P12 or something that runs on an 18650 and offers long runtime would be ideal. If you buy a diffuser cap for it, you can replace the lantern. Pick up some spare, high quality 18650 cells, as well. The P12 has SOS and beacon modes, which will run for days at a time, in addition to a nice throw and excellent brightness on Medium and High.
https://www.amazon.ca/Nitecore-Flashlight-Lumens-Meters-Distance/dp/B00PQE1D2E/ref=sr_1_2?s=sports&ie=UTF8&qid=1482173859&sr=1-2&keywords=nitecore+P12
As for headlamps, those don't need to be super bright. You want something with enough brightness and floodiness to work around camp. But ideally you also want a red-light or low-light mode for night time, when you don't need to destroy your night vision just because you need to take a piss or something.
https://www.amazon.ca/TACTIKKA-CONSTANT-LIGHTING-HEADLAMP-DESERT/dp/B00GCGIGHK/ref=sr_1_14?s=sports&ie=UTF8&qid=1482173989&sr=1-14&keywords=petzl+headlamp
The powerbank thing in the crank radio is crap, only 1000mah. Not enough to charge most modern smart phones even 25%. Figure that of that 1000mah, ~25% will be lost just due to inefficiency in the charging process. Get a 10,000mah or bigger high quality battery, with 2.1A ports, and be done with it:
https://www.amazon.ca/Anker-PowerCore-Portable-Ultra-Compact-High-speed-Charging-Technology/dp/B0194WDVHI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1482173708&sr=8-1&keywords=anker+usb+power+bank
Combine the money you'd spend on the shitty folding knife and the shitty Gerber multitool, and buy a proper multi-tool. You don't need two folding knives.
The Leatherman Wingman is a good value, though I prefer a nicer quality one like the Charge TTi, but at four times the price it may not be worth it just for an S30V blade.
https://www.amazon.ca/Leatherman-2996-831426-Wingman-Multi-Tool/dp/B005DI0XM4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1482174264&sr=8-1&keywords=leatherman+wave
Ditch the camp toilet paper, that stuff is like wiping your ass with cardboard. Get some biodegradable camp wipes from an outdoor store. You can now use these to clean your ass, and they also are useful for wiping your hands, or taking whore baths.
Same with the camp soap. Are you bugging out or camping for a week? Nothing you are going to do in a bugout situation is going to necessitate body soap. Toothbrush, floss, deodorant.
Ditch the giant first aid kit full of crap you don't need. Those things are heavy and 80 of the 85 pieces are just different sized bitch stickers. Build your own first aid kit tailored around the likely injuries you would face: sprains, cuts, burns. Maybe throw some Quik Clot Z-pack gauze or a tourniquet (CAT or similar) in there for larger trauma, if that is a concern to you. Limit the bitch stickers to 5-10. All gauze, tape, trauma pads, alcohol wipes, tincture of iodine, moleskin for blisters, tweezers, surgical shears, gloves, maybe burn cream. Small containers of medications you might need: aspirin, antihistamines like Diphenhydramine, anti-diarrheals, etc.
That survival paracord bracelet thing is garbage. You already have 100ft of paracord in your list (which you could probably cut down to 50ft). You don't need some shitty firestarter, whistle, and compass thing. Buy a real lensatic sighting compass. Not going to do you much good without a map and the ability to understand it, anyway.
https://www.amazon.ca/UST-Survival-Essentials-Lensatic-Compass/dp/B005X1YI3Q/ref=sr_1_5?s=sports&ie=UTF8&qid=1482174799&sr=1-5&keywords=compass
You have both a cookset AND a mug/pot. This is extra redundant and not needed in a bugout situation. Stick to food you don't have to prepare. Caloric density is your friend. Jerky, EPIC bars, Clif bars, etc.
If you need to boil water, use a single-wall metal canteen (NOT a thermos). Remove the plastic lid, fill with water, set in your fire. Widemouth canteens like those by Klean Kanteen are multi-purpose (multipurpose is your friend). You can sterilize water, you can cook and eat food out of it (because of the large opening), and you can fill with hot water, wrap in a sock, and warm your sleep system.
https://www.amazon.ca/Klean-Kanteen-Stainless-Bottle-27-Ounce/dp/B0027W6WHE/ref=sr_1_sc_4?s=sports&ie=UTF8&qid=1482174908&sr=1-4-spell&keywords=klean+kanteen+widemouth
You don't need a can opener if you have a good multitool.
Lifestraws suck ass. They only work as a straw, and I am going to guess you don't want to get your water by drinking out of puddles exclusively. Get a Sawyer Squeeze mini filter. This can be used in-line with a hydration bladder, can be used like a Lifestraw, or can be used to filter an fill your water storage containers/bladder:
https://www.amazon.ca/Sawyer-Products-SP128-Filtration-System/dp/B00FA2RLX2/ref=sr_1_1?s=sports&ie=UTF8&qid=1482175065&sr=1-1&keywords=sawyer+mini
One seriously lacking area for you is your sleep system. A tarp and a space blanket are not going to keep you functionally warm. You might survive a night, but you won't be useful the next day.
At the BARE minimum, you should get a good, reflective, breathable bivvy sack, like this one from SOL, AND a sleeping pad. A bivvy will reflect heat back onto you, helping with heat lost through convection, but no sleeping bag will help with heat lost through conduction (you touching the cold ground). That is why a sleeping pad is mandatory. I have used the Escape bivvy and the Klymit pad linked here together, and both kept me comfortably warm to about 50 degrees F. Below that, I've had to augment with base layers or jackets, and that still sucked. If you are hoping to sleep in below freezing temperatures, you'll need a properly sorted ultralight sleeping bag.
https://www.amazon.ca/Adventure-Medical-Kits-Escape-Bivvy/dp/B00EVGD0FQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=sports&ie=UTF8&qid=1482175280&sr=1-1&keywords=SOL+escape
https://www.amazon.ca/Klymit-06SVGR01C-Camping-Mattress-Green-Grey/dp/B007RFG0NM/ref=sr_1_1?s=sports&ie=UTF8&qid=1482175199&sr=1-1&keywords=sleep+pad
Other recommendations of mine would be to take survival, medical and foraging guides and put them on a smartphone, along with a GPS mapping software and pre-downloaded offline topographical maps at 1:24k resolution of your main bugout areas and 1:100k resolution elsewhere. Something like Gaia GPS for iOS or Backcountry Navigator Pro for Android:
The Sawyer Mini is an great all around filter that can be purchased for $20. tablets aren't a bad idea either. Do not waste your money on a lifestraw though. the sawyers are good for like 10-100x the lifespan(in gallons of course)
Patently false, and shill for Lifestraw detected.
Sawyer (and the one I have, full disclosure): http://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-Water-Filtration-System/dp/B00FHRADQ2
Lifestraw: http://www.amazon.com/LifeStraw-LSPHF017-Personal-Water-Filter/dp/B006QF3TW4
Sawyer has a .1 micron, Lifestraw is a .2. Next time please post accurate information, thanks :)
edit: my mistake on this statement, I thought the personal stick model was being discussed and NOT the Family model which can filter out viruses. I retract against the Family model but maintain it still applies to the personal "straw" model since that one is .2.
Here's a few things I've bought off Amazon that I've been really happy with:
Minus33 Merino Wool Day Hiker Sock
Magnesium Fire Starter
Bahco 396-LAP Laplander Folding Saw
Sawyer Products Mini Water Filtration System
Morakniv Companion Fixed Blade Outdoor Knife with Carbon Steel Blade
Nalgene Translucent Wide Mouth Bottle With Blue Lid
Outdoor Products 3-Pack Ultimate Dry Sack
Rayovac Sportsman 22 Lumen 1AAA Headlight
Adventure Medical Kits Adventure First Aid 2.0
Suunto M-3 D/L Compass
Personally, I don't like hatchets. Too much room for error. I'd advise the Bahco.
I'd also consider the Sawyer for water filtration, as I think most water purification tablets taste nasty. If you are going to use them, bring some Crystal Light, or sweetened Kool-Aid or Gatorade to kill the taste.
Definitely need a map and compass, otherwise ... how do you know when you've reached your destination?
What are the Sharpies and the tampons for? How long is it supposed to sustain you? Are there any options to procure more food after the 4 days of rat bars run out?
I'd say that it needs work. 5/10? But these things really aren't quantifiable like that. Try it out for a weekend, and objectively analyze the deficiencies.
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Get a Sawyer Mini and some disinfectant tablets or drops (Aquamira is popular). Use the Mini when you need water right then, use the tablets when you can wait.
So say you have two water bottles and you come up to a stream and need water. Fill one with water from the source and put the disinfectants in there (making sure to bleed the threads), and put it in your pack. Then take the Mini and fill your other bottle using the squeeze bag OR you can get a bladder and fill it with water straight from the source and have the Mini connected between the bladder and the mouthpiece so it filters as you drink. By the time your bottle with the filtered water runs out, the other bottle of water will be purified. You can also fill both bottles with the filter when you stop if you're gonna take a rest, but you should always have drops or tablets as backups.
EDIT: Outdoor Gear Lab did a good review of water treatment options. It's very comprehensive (as are all their reviews).
For water filtering, check out sawyer squeeze. They also have a mini version, but I'd say the squeeze is worth the extra money & weight for increased flow rate and less clogging.
The klymit static v sleeping pad is on massdrop right now.
The brs 3000t stove is often recommended a super light canister stove.
Or if your just boiling water and not actually cooking meals on your stove then a lot of redditors love their jet boils.
Sawyer Squeeze, $25, 3.2 oz
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005EHPVQW
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This is a popular filter for backpacking. It removes all bacteria (not viruses, but in Banff that should be okay). There are no chemicals or wait time - you simply push dirty water through the filter and out comes pure water.
You will scoop up water with the provided bag, screw it onto the filter, roll/squeeze, and either drink the water directly - or fill up your clean bottles/bladders for drinking/cooking later.
(the Sawyer Mini is also an option, for slightly less money/weight. I recommend this Squeeze because it requires less frequent cleaning and has a higher flow rate so filtering water is faster)
Lifestraws are kind of pointless because there's no way to fill containers. Most of the hiking community including myself use one of these:
Sawyer Squeeze
Also, jesus dude... carry an air pump? How heavy is your backpack????????
No worries at all on the questions, i hope i can help.
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>How much extra gear do you find yourself carrying for your little man?
Not all that much actually. Extra sleeping bag and pad, children's versions of all the normal first aid meds i carry, a little extra food, his blanket that he sleeps with, and a couple of books for bed-time stories.
>What are you guys doing for water?
Sawyer Squeeze water filter. That thing has been great. A side note that will probably not apply to you when taking a small child out: if you are going to be out in below freezing temps take special care not to let your filter freeze. When the water freezes and expands it will break the ceramic filter media and while water will still flow through it it will not necessarily be safe to drink.
> How did you prep him for the long days and potentially scary nights?
We've been on day hikes of varying lengths before and the nice thing about backpacking is its kind of self-limiting; you go as far in a day as your least capable team member then stop and set up camp. As far as scary nights i've found, for my son anyways, that as long as i'm relaxed and comfortable he will be too so it really wasn't an issue.
> What expectations do you have for your pace?
This first trip we did about 5 miles with no complaints at all. I'm planning a trip this fall and am expecting that we can make 10 miles a day. Again, though, if we get out there and find that this is too much we will just stop at the nearest site and set up camp rather than pushing on to the shelter.
> What do you expect your son to carry?
This first trip he was almost 6 years old and all he carried in his pack was his water bladder, a change of clothes, his toy binoculars, and his blanket. Probably came out to 2 or 3 pounds. Later this fall i'm hoping i can bring that up a little bit and let him carry some of the food. His little coleman backpack is very small and with as quickly as he's growing i'm not really ready to buy him a nice pack yet that will only last him a year or two.
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Hopefully we'll see you and yours out there in a few years; happy trails!
For 29$, you could get a Sawyer Squeeze water filter and save ~13oz
For ~150$ you could get a Hammock Gear Burrow Econ 30 to replace your sleeping bag and save ~24oz. A lot of people recommend the wide quilts, as Hammock Gear standards are designed for hammock sleeping.
A lot of people here will recommend not bringing a second pair of clothes. Just hike in the same clothes every day. Could save ~25oz.
If you install Gaia GPS on your phone, you could drop the delorme and save ~7oz. Not sure if its an InReach that you're using to keep in touch with people when you don't have service. Another personal call.
*Edit: Fixed weight savings for quilt.
Why would you not just buy the Sawyer Mini for $18.97 on Amazon?
Sawyer Products SP128 Mini Water Filtration System https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FA2RLX2/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_qhWfub0018FS9
What do you think of the http://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-SP128-Filtration-System/dp/B00FA2RLX2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1406720934&sr=8-1&keywords=sawyer+mini It has a 0.1 Micron Filter. I believe that still won't remove Viruses in water though. And do you know what are the chances of North American Streams, or Lakes etc containing viruses in the water?
$19.99 with shipping on Woot for 1,000 liters of filtering capacity or $19.06 with shipping on Amazon, which is strange because Woot is owned by Amazon.
Or you can get a Sawyer Mini for $19.97 with shipping for 100,000 gallons (378,541 liters) of filtering capacity, while filtering at 0.1 microns instead of 0.2 microns for the Lifestraw. It comes with a straw so you can use it the same way as the Lifestraw, plus has the greater flexibility of being able to be used with a hydration bladder or set up as a gravity filter systems, and also comes with a small water pouch.
http://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-Water-Filtration-System/dp/B00FHRADQ2
Change the color to from the special edition black to blue or anything else and set the quantity to 1 and it comes out to around $20.
https://www.amazon.com/Survivor-Filter-PRO-Emergency-Cleanable/dp/B00QFXGSIY/ref=zg_bs_3402141_14?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=WVJ8Y364J60S8H9T12PD I use this one in the desert. the push is great for wet sand, and sometimes in the desert thats all you get. Its bigger and heavy. But this thing is not going to let me down..
i also use towel, t shirt or sock as pre filter. sock filled with wet sand works well enough.. . You can find wet sand under many many desert cactus and other plants.. I have used this method and got usable amounts of water. You fill a sock with wit sand and then you wring it down and drip it into the filter.. It takes about 20 loads of sand in the sock but, you can get a gallon in about hour or so..
I highly recommend running the water through a t shirt or sock at all times. desert Dust is hard and fine. It tends to do a number on seals.
Sawyer Products SP150 Coupling for Water Filtration Cleaning https://www.amazon.com/dp/B018NJC1A6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_nvOVCbJ8V7G82
I carried one of these. I only ever cleaned my sawyer in town so I’d just fill up my platypus and attach the sawyer to it with the coupler. But, also as someone said the plungers are practically in every hiker box.
Polycro Goundsheet
Sawyer Squeeze Mini
Cascade Mountain Aluminum Trekking Poles
Including shipping its the same price as on amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-Water-Filtration-System/dp/B00FHRADQ2
For trail hiking the LifeStraw didn't meet my expectations or my needs. Ever try hiking a 14er in Colorado while one hand hold your Nalgene of "dirty" water and the other is holding a straw with your trekking poles tucked under your arms? For the same price the Sawyer Mini beats the life straw hands down. The Sawyer is even on sale right now. Though it was 19.99 yesterday...
Only time that I ever buy bottled water is when I go camping. A 6 day trip requires a single gallon. When it's empty I just refill it with one of these:
https://www.amazon.com/Survivor-Filter-Purifier-Emergency-Nanofiltration/dp/B00QFXGSIY/ref=pd_sbs_468_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=ZEM3MHGVXXNPQSTDJZJY
Meanwhile, my buddy consistently brings along a 24 pack of water, it weighs a goddamn ton, and now you have 24 empty plastic containers to pack up when you leave. Yeah, I'll save that space for beer, tyvm.
I've been researching this same issue. I ended up going with a Steripen, instead.
I feel like filters just don't do the job as well for a similar price. Some less expensive ones might be just as effective, but they might be a little unwieldy, like this one. Or you'll have something like this, which is comparable in price to a good Steripen, but it's still bulkier, has a lot of moving parts, and isn't particularly durable. I'd probably only be comfortable with a filter if I went with something like this, which is still, admittedly, a little bulky -- and a hell of a lot more expensive.
Of course, Steripens have their own problems. They require batteries -- a fully charged rechargeable battery might get you 40 uses for most of the popular Steripen models, while a single-use lithium set might get you a hundred uses.
Finally, don't forget that big bottles of water in India run about Rs. 15 each. (You can go for the off brands, which might run as low as Rs. 7. Some NRIs warned me against drinking the off brands, but I've never had a problem with them.) To combat the mountains of plastic, some places sell potable water for you to refill your bottles with, but these are few and far between. (The only one I've seen marketed to backpackers was in Leh, which is a mecca for hippies.)
Of course, there are tablets, but those get disgusting after a while.
I don't think there is reason to believe collapse is "imminent", but it does seem inevitable. I came to that conclusion after the congressional battle over the debt limit. If it was so difficult to accomplish almost nothing, then the actual changes that would be needed are just impossible.
Do you have a water source nearby, like a river? If so, you may be better off with just a good water filter, something like this. Maybe you can get one for your birthday or something under the guise of use for camping and such. Then just get some ziplock bags or something, and then you can go and create your own water supply whenever you need.
So in short, no, don't hide your preparations. Do it in plain sight but come up with an alternate reason.
I was given a Katadyn Hiker filter a while back but I had a lot of problems with it. I'm sure Katadyn makes some good products, and I've had my eye on their Pocket Filter for a while, but instead I replaced the Hiker with the MSR MiniWorks, which is more in line with what you want to spend. The MSR filter has been fantastic. It's tough, fairly lightweight and compact for the capacity, and it's easy to clean the ceramic filter (even in the back country) with a small scrubby pad when it starts getting clogged. It's easy to use (so anyone on the trip can feel comfortable gathering water), fits right onto a nalgene bottle (no extra tubes), and fills a bottle in about 60 seconds.
I carry a Katadyn Hiker Pro, even on day trips. I have a 3L camelback, and I once ran out of water hiking the Harvard and Columbia linkup, on the way up to the summit of Columbia. Worst. Day. Ever.
Now I bring the filter on anything over a few hour hike. It's light, easy to use, it doesn't take very long to filter water, and it doesn't take up much space
If you're staying for some reason:
Go to the camping/outdoor isle of your local Walmart and buy a Sawyer Squeeze water filter. (Amazon link) I have one and use for backpacking all the time.
Also buy a bottle of Smartwater if they're still around. They hold 1 liter and the Sawyer filter is the same threading as the Smartwater bottle, so if you had too, you could fill up the Smartwater bottle with flood water, screw the filter on the end of the bottle, and drink directly from it.
NOTE: This is for filtering FRESHWATER/RAINWATER, not sea water! No water filter will remove salt from water, but it WILL remove bacteria/viruses and other junk. You will have to have a freshwater source (inland flood waters, collected water from rainfall, etc). The water in the canals down there is brackish (mix of salt and freshwater, I used to live there for 5 years).
And don't forget to fill your bathtub with water before it hits... and know that you can get water from your water heater, too. There's usually a drain valve at the bottom.
Is there a particular reason that you want a filter with a pump in it? After using several different water pumps (MSR Miniworks, MSR Sweetwater, a couple Katadyn filters, etc.), and several kinds of tablets (PolarPure, MicroPur, Portable Aqua), I would highly recommend the Sawyer Squeeze style water filters.
The only thing that I dislike: you can't allow the filter cartridge to freeze. If you do, it has to be replaced. The ceramic and fiberglass cartridges for the Miniworks and Sweetwater pumps didn't have this restriction.
Some people say that they have problems with the Sawyer bags leaking, but I haven't had this problem yet. On the other hand, I never squeeze my bag - I always let gravity do my work for me. Dehydration is a major safety issue in the backcountry, so I always carry a backup bag and MicroPur tablets, just to be safe. You can also use your stove to boil water in a pinch.
Normally I don't get really excited about particular pieces of my outdoor gear, but buying my squeeze filter really changed the way that I backpack. It used to be that producing a liter of fresh water was such a pain that I didn't want to let a single drop go to waste. Now I'm much more relaxed with my water use - I feel like I've got more time to enjoy my trip rather than stand on a slippery rock hunched over a stream.
Check out the Sawyer Squeeze. I had a lifestraw at first, but found the Sawyer Squeeze to be infinitely more useful. You can attach it to smartwater bottles and filter as you go. It is better in both day to day use and emergencies.
You only need to filter drinking and cooking water which comes to about 2L/p/d.
For personal hiking/camping use, I have something like this that'll last most of a lifetime:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B1OSU4W/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_5?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
http://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-SP131-PointOne-Squeeze/dp/B005EHPVQW/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1463003067&sr=1-1&keywords=sawyer+squeeze
The Sawyer Squeeze is the reason the Mini is called the Mini -- it's a larger version of the same filtering concept. I use a Mini with absolutely no complaints when I'm out by myself or one other person. If I'm out with more than that I use an older Sawyer 3-Way in a homemade gravity rig so I can just leave it run itself.
Honestly, I can't think of one possible scenario where I'd rather have a LifeStraw than a Sawyer. Also, that Massdrop is only a two bucks cheaper ($18 shipped) if you've already got Amazon Prime, making it barely worth considering.
Nimm eine erweiterte Erste Hilfe Ausrüstung mit und sorg' dafür, daß deine Reisebegleiter davon wissen und im Notfall dafür sorgen, daß die verwendet wird. Diese Seite hat eine gute Liste von dem, was man einpacken sollte. Besonders die Einmal-Spritzen, Kanülen und Disinfektionsmittel sind notwendig. Bei der Abreise kannst du alles nicht verwendete an jemanden Spenden, der dort wohnt.
Medikamente gegen Durchfall und Verstopfung kann ich auch empfehlen. Wasserfilter wie diesen oder diesen, und zusätzlich noch Wasserreinigungstabletten, sollten auch nicht fehlen.
DR Kongo hat die zweit-höchste Malaria Infektionsrate der Welt, also sollte Malariaprofylaxe und Insektenabwehr hoch in deiner Prioritätsliste sein. Kleidung sollte wenn's geht leicht sein aber die Arme und Beine bedecken. Das hilft sowohl beim Sonnenschutz als auch gegen Insekten. Es gibt mit Permithrin imprägnierte Kleidung die sehr empfohlen ist. Ansonsten gutes Insektenabwehrspray mitnehmen und ausgiebig verwenden.
You can buy a Sawyer Mini SP128 for not much more and get .1 micron filtration. Clean sip doesn't even list its filter specs on its website, most likely because it doesn't compare to more reputable manufacturers. Just because it's "the world's smallest", doesn't necessarily make it a smart purchase.
Do not get a Lifestraw! Get a Sawyer mini filter instead. They're back-flushable (you can unclog them if they get clogged) and they're guaranteed for more gallons of water than a Lifestraw. The mini filter will also screw on to a lot of plastic drink bottles, like the 12-20oz bottles you can get from vending machines.
As a back up, you can buy one of these pretty cheap:
Sawyer Products SP128 Mini Water Filtration System, Single, Blue https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FA2RLX2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_8tgBDbGGF66B7
Or just grab a couple sawyer filters for $20 a pop. Still good to have some backup bottled water I suppose and fill up the tub, but with a sawyer I can literally just go drink out of a puddle if I need to.
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https://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-SP128-Filtration-System/dp/B00FA2RLX2/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1536624885&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=sawyer+mini&psc=1
| Lifestraw | Sawyer Mini
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Membrane | 0.2 microns | 0.1 microns (2x better)
Capacity | 264 gallons | 100,000 gallons (378.8x better)
Bacteria | 6 LOG | 7 LOG (10x better)
Bacteria% | 99.9999% | 99.99999% (10x better)
Protozoa | 3 LOG | 6 LOG (1000x better)
Protozoa% | 99.9% | 99.9999% (1000x better)
Price | $19.89 | $19.41 or 4 for $67.51 ($16.88 each)
The mini is also smaller and comes with a 32 oz squeezable water pouch, 7" tube, syringe for cleaning (if it clogs)
>Attaches to included drinking pouch, standard disposable bottles (28 mm thread), hydration packs, or use the straw to drink directly from your water source
http://sawyer.com/products/sawyer-mini-filter/
Sawyer mini with water bottle
it's the best system in my opinion. However, the Sawyer squeeze might be better, but still use it with the water bottle.
if you just want 1 - they are about 30 cents cheaper on amazon if you have prime, after paying for shipping on woot - otherwise this is a good deal!
Definitely a sawyer mini water filter.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00FA2RLX2/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1405573467&sr=8-1&pi=SX200_QL40
Gorruck 34L GR2 Coyote Tan - a good bag, heavy, uncomfortable, probably give it to my grandchildren in like 50 years
Flip Flops - generic things
Bigblue 28W solar charger - very good, can charge my battery up during the day if i leave it in the sun which I've never really done honestly
Jakemy hardware tools - seamed useful? i've never needed this
Army glove shells - i thought i used these a lot and were indistructable but now that i think of it, i don't use them that often and are probably pretty cheaply made.
Sharpie, pen, all weather notebook - probably should switch over to a fisher space pen...
Straws - these are probably already broken.
Whistle - really really really loud
Fire-striker, matches, lighter - i'm not sure i have enough ways to start a fire
Fresnel lens - ok, now i have enough
LED flashlight - i used to go running in the middle of the night with this flashlight, its tiny
LED flashlight - this isn't the one i have but looks kinda similar? i don't remember where i got mine
Earbuds - generic cheap earbuds
Leatherman Surge - given to me by my wife for passing the bar. thanks wife!
First Aide kit - i put mine together from stuff i've stolen from friends houses whenever i go over and use the bathroom
playing cards - these look very similar to the ones i have, they are plastic so they won't get rained on
glasses/ sunglasses - i have really bad vision
personal hygiene kit - aahhhh dry shaving
Sawyer Mini / syringe, collapsible canteen (dirty), heavy duty straw - i've never used this
collapsible canteen (clean) - i've never used this either
sewing kit - i've used this a lot
ID tags - i guess if i get blown up they'll know my blood type?
garbage bag - for when my pockets are full
elastic bands - i use these when packing to keep rolled socks and things from falling apart
Salt - i have nooooo idea why i have this
cooking grate - i'm not going to hold meat over a fire with a stick like some sort of caveman
heavy duty ziplock bag - in case my mapcase breaks and other reasons
rip-patch - leftover from when i needed a pack because i bought a crummy cheap inflatable sleeping pad.
Army Fleece Beanie - i always keep this at the top of my pack
4 Bungie Cords - not the one i use but similar. to make a field-expedient shelter
Trowel - for disposal of biological wastes
Lensatic compass - because GPS should only be a backup
Pocketboy 130 folding saw - i have a bigger one for yardwork, this small one is really great
Tent stakes - for tent staking
Ravpower 26800 Battery - use this all the time can fast chage my stuff
Battery Battery holder, cables, wall charger - all fits togehter like glove!
Army Poncho - wear it, make a tent out of it etc
Microfiber towel - not the one i use but similar. i mainly use this for when the kids accidentally fall in a lake like they tend to do for some reason
Down Jacket - cheap chinese knockoff... i feel bad for not buying american
Wet weather top - not sure this is worth the space/weight
Wet Weather bottom - not sure if this is worth the weight/space
Silkweights - PJs! and warmth
Jungle Blanket - this is a lot better than the army's woobie. lighter and warmer
Gransfors Bruks Wildlife Hatchet - again, gift from wife. she wanted me to chop things and be more manly, generally. now i come home with parts of wildlife for her to cook
Map of New England - or, how i stopped worrying and love dismounted land navigation
PT belt - keeps me safe in all situations
Compression straps - i don't like lashing things to the outside but i guess i can if i wanted to
Fork and Spoon - stole these from the kitchen. i'll probably be replacing this soon with something titanium.
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EDIT: i just priced it out: $1,585.08 total
Here is a great little stove. It's a Chinese whisperlight, but I've been using it quite a bit over the past 2 years and have no complaints whatsoever. Also super cheap, which gives you more money to play with.
The Sawyer mini squeeze is also a great item to have. You should have $20-25 left after these two items.
Here's a decent magnesium fire starter for cheap as well.
With these items, all essential/survival items, you should have about $15-20 to play with. Maybe some socks?
It's probably fine, but if it concerns you at all, it's probably worth the $20 to just buy a [sawyer mini] (http://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-Water-Filtration-System/dp/B00FHRADQ2). You'll gain some peace of mind and save some weight off your back.
> Is it true that water isn't something to worry about
Water is absolutely something to worry about. Keep a few gallons on hand to get you through a couple of days, then have something to filter water with. Sounds like you are a minor so I'd stick to something more affordable like one of these sawyer filters and then get you a few smart water bottles (the 1 liter ones) as the threading fits perfect on the filter.
I'd recommend instead of that the Sawyer product line:
https://sawyer.com/products/type/water-filtration/
I use the Saywer Mini, personally:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MPH1LEU
It's excellently built, light, and filters a lot of water very fast (fast enough to drink easily, basically). I use it all the time with lower-quality tap when traveling. Everything that comes out of it tastes basically exactly the same (completely neutral). Couldn't recommend it enough; I've had it about 1 full year, and it shows no signs of slowing down.
I did it twice last year. If you're not needing to wade too deep, here's what I suggest:
I also started hammock camping which helped cut down on size/weight a little.
This worked really well for me. Here's why:
Pic of packed gear
Tiny fish
That's where the "bathtub of water" comes in to play. Plus, if an area doesn't have water for weeks, it's going to be an enormous disaster area and i would expect the feds will be there for support.
But i guess as a "survival" backup, I'd get one of these that'll get you 100K gallons of drinking water from a river/lake: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TOX6UM6/
Well that can be a long list... here goes though:
Water
Dehydrated food
Cooking utensils (I just bring a small pot/cup and a spork personally)
Stove
Sleeping bag
Tent (two pound, two person from Big 5)
550 paracord
2 tarps
Katadyn base camp filter
Sunshade for camping pad
Multi-tool
Compass
Map
Lighter & matches
Water purifying tablets
I'm sure I'm leaving a few things off, but those are several of the basics
Did a ton of research for a camping trip last year. (assuming you mean hiking and camping, not just driving your car around)
For high-quality at a low price, my friends and I were completely satisfied by:
(p.s. I bet /r/Camping has better tips than /r/amazone )
they are good and compact and pretty cheap. If you ever run out of water you'll wish you had one as most water sources are contaminated anymore.
I prefer my hand pump. I've had mine 10 years and it works great. I really doesn't weigh much and you can change out the filter.
https://www.amazon.com/Katadyn-Hiker-Microfilter-Water-Filter/dp/B0047QV0AM/ref=sr_1_9?crid=3OJ6CP0N5E4XC&keywords=water+filter+hand+pump&qid=1556483509&s=gateway&sprefix=water+filter+hand%2Caps%2C274&sr=8-9
Most long-distance and wilderness hikers would recommend the sawyer squeeze. Make sure to get the full size on and not the mini. Should last several years at least with proper backflushing.
Sawyer mini is the way to go for water filtering.
It's a little expensive but I got the Katadyn Pocket Filter with the carbon add-on & extra carbon (frequently bought together section). Figured if I'm ever in a bug-out predicament, I wouldn't want to be carrying a buncha bottles of water. It can filter 13,000 gallons...right from the source into your water bottle. I was able to stuff the carbon add-on in the pack that comes with the filter...I'd say total the pack is about a foot long and 4-5 inches wide. Weighs maybe a pound.
I carry a backpacking waterfilter. You can hike across the US without carrying water with a bit of planning. Actually, most surface water in the US is safe to drink.
water filter
Water Filter!
Petzl e+LITE headlamp
Katadyn Micropur water purification tablets
Sawyer Squeeze water filtration system
Titanium Shepherd stakes
Victorinox Swiss Army classic
Morakniv Companion knife
Darn Tough Merino wool socks
What is the difference between the Katadyn and the Sawyer Squeeze?
http://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-PointOne-Squeeze-Filter-System/dp/B005EHPVQW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1333648214&sr=8-1
Trowel: If you can't find a hundred rocks, sticks, and pieces of wood that can dig a hole for your deuce, you're not looking hard enough. I prefer flat rocks, myself.
Filter: I'm not a huge fan of tablets/drops, but I also solo primarily, so I don't want to have a 1lb+ filter system. My solution was to get a Sawyer PointOne Squeeze Water Filter System. It works like a charm, filters quickly, and serves as a backup bladder in case your primary water vessel is damaged. It functions in the same way as an inline filter. If you want to have a drink immediately, you just attach the filter to the dirty water bladder, and drink from the clean end. 3oz for the filter and the small bladder.
Water Bottle: The Nalgene is dead weight. If you're smart and careful, you can get away with a bottle and a backup bladder for less weight than the Nalgene, alone. I picked up a Smart Water bottle a while back, and have been using it ever since. Modern 'disposable' water bottles are so absurdly over-designed that they're strong enough to stand up to everyday use. (Especially those made by soda companies, as they usually design their bottles with enough toughness and wall thickness to withstand the pressure of carbonation.)
Toothbrush: Unless you've inherited Andre the Giant's hands, you don't need a full toothbrush handle. Cut that sucker in half! Then drill holes in it for more weight savings! Then brag to all of your friends about the amazing weight savings your toothbrush modification provides! (It's late, I'm tired and delirious. Sue me.)
Cookset: Depending on what sort of stuff you're cooking, you can get away with a lot less than what you've got. Now, if you're going gourmet, I can see having 2lbs of cookstuffs, but as a soloer who cooks mostly by re-hydration, my cookset weighs (and this is just an estimate) about 8oz, with fuel. My pot is a modified Heineken Keg Can, and my stove is from Minibulldesign. It's enough for packaged backpacking meals, ramen, pasta and sauce, soup, tea, coffee, oatmeal... Nothing too fancy, but good enough.
Tent Stakes: I can't see what you've got or how many, but I'll just throw out my personal preference in case it happens to be lighter than whatever you've got.
I would go with a squeeze or gravity fed filter instead. They'll be lighter and usually cheaper than a pump filter, too. Most people prefer the Sawyer Squeeze or the Sawyer Mini.
As others have mentioned, it will depend on what kind of camping he likes to do and what he already owns, but here are some of my favorite pieces of gear I've picked up over the years:
This little guy is a pretty good rechargeable lantern/flashlight with magnets so you can stick it to stuff and a usb output so you can charge other things with it.
I've had one of these for YEARS and I just lost it the other day. There was $200 worth of gear in the pannier that fell off my bike and I'm more pissed about that cup than the rest of the gear combined. It looks like they made it a little taller, which I do not like, but he may. There are several other brands that make something similar in both steel or titanium. It's not just a cup though...it will slip perfectly over the bottom of a nalgene, you can cook directly on a stove or fire with it, and you can pair it with the smaller jetboil coffee press or the guts of a standard bodum press and turn it into a french press. It's the exact same diameter.
A Sawyer can be an AMAZING if you're going to be anywhere long enough to pack water in. The squeeze bag it comes with sucks, but it has standard bottle threads, so you can screw it into a 2-liter bottle with the bottom cut off and it turns it into a gravity filter. Just pour more river/lake water into the 2 liter every minute or so and it will keep pouring clean water into your bottles. Also, you notice the weird skinny part in the middle? It's exactly the width of duct tape. You can wrap several yards of it around there.
EDIT: forgot some words
Replace the $70 Katadyn filter with a $20 Sawyer filter.
Replace the $60 Petzl with a $20 Wowtac A2.
> I am also looking for a set of hiking poles.
The $30 Monoprice CF poles are considered the best/lightest for the money. You really don't want heavy poles.
> Do I need any other cookware?
Are you planning to actually cook or are you eating trail mix the entire time?
Get a Sawyer filter over the lifestraw. https://www.amazon.ca/Sawyer-Products-SP128-Filtration-System/dp/B00FA2RLX2/
You don't have to suck water through, and it's rated for way more water.
Forgot to mention above, I do have a water filter, and was planning on filtering on-the-go as I was camping. Does that change anything?
Uhh.. Since nobody else is helping, I will give it my best shot. On a normal day, the average reccomended amount of water per person will be 64 oz., or .5 gallons. This is a rough estimate for an average person. If you are larger, pack more. If you are smaller, pack less. Depending on the heat, you may end up sweating alot of the water out.
I would reccomend no less than .75 Gallons per person per day.
As far as containers go, something like this would probably be best. I think that stores like walmart have a similar option....
To purify lake water you have several options. There are a multitude of water filters that backpackers use to make drinking water safe. /r/ backpacking raves about this one in particular for its low price, easy use, and low weight. It should filter out bacteria and other nasty things in water.
Alternatively, water purification tablets can be bought to do the same thing. These will not filter out sediment though. They only kill bacteria.
Since this is car camping and the weight/size of gear is not as big of a concern, simply overpacking on water will do no harm. Just keep track of how much you drink as a gauge for next time!
Are you dead set on a Geigerrig filter? They seem awfully expensive for something that will only last 50-100 gallons.
I'd get a sawyer mini - http://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-SP128-Filtration-System/dp/B00FA2RLX2
I'm going deep in to the woods. We are going to stay in awesome hammocks and we will be wrapped in fleece sleeping bags. We will also bring a water filtration system so we can drink from the spring rather than lugging water with us. After all, lugging a cooler or four full of beer and whiskey will be enough of a task for us.
I'm so excited that the weather is getting better that I have super duper camping on my mind. :)
For anyone thinking this is a good buy, please check out the Sawyer Mini. It may cost more, but the Lifestraw filters up to 1,000L. The Sawyer does 360,000L and also filters out more than the Lifestraw. The Sawyer also works with fittings and attachments for hydration bags meaning you can set it up to work as a gravity filter in addition to using it as a straw.
It's better than the the Lifestraw in every single way. I have used both and have no affiliation with either company.
You're welcome!
>Is there a good compass or gps you would reccomend?
I'm afraid I'm not a good authority on GPS. I use a DeLorme InReach which is a two-way communicator with GPS ability if tethered to a phone. It's overkill for someone starting out, I wouldn't recommend it unless you've got piles of money burning a hole in your pocket.
As for compasses, I carry a cheap Brunton baseplate compass. Similar to this Silva, but I don't go off trail or crosscountry. More importantly is that you know how to use one. Watch some youtube videos first, figure out if you need a compass that has sights, or if you live in a higher/lower latitude and need something to match your magnetic zone.
Hold off on the GPS and learn how to use a compass and map first. Then if you think it's necessary (or more convenient) step up to a GPS. Remember that maps and compasses don't need batteries.
>How much water is enough water?
General rule is 1 gallon/day, but it varies from person to person, terrain, temperature, etc. If you're in an area with decent water sources, get yourself a Sawyer Mini.
>When deciding where to go in back country do most people just choose a thing and then travel there and back and around or are there trails that people take and camp along?
Choosing a thing and traveling there is called "cross-country hiking" which means hiking off-trail and making your own path. This is allowed in some places and frowned upon at others, depends on how fragile/protected the terrain is. If you're going cross-country, you better be proficient at orienteering.
I'd wager the majority of people hike on trails and camp along the way at established camp sites.
I like this water filter for light weight packs.
Might want to look at [this] (http://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-SP128-Filtration-System/dp/B00FA2RLX2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1419254970&sr=8-1&keywords=sawyer+mini).
Filters better and filters more:
| Lifestraw | Sawyer Mini
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Membrane | 0.2 microns | 0.1 microns (2x better)
Capacity | 264 gallons | 100,000 gallons (378.8x better)
Bacteria | 6 LOG | 7 LOG (10x better)
Bacteria% | 99.9999% | 99.99999% (10x better)
Protozoa | 3 LOG | 6 LOG (1000x better)
Protozoa% | 99.9% | 99.9999% (1000x better)
Price | $19.20 | $19.97 or 4 for $67.51 ($16.88 each)
The mini is also smaller and comes with a 32 oz squeezable water pouch, 7" tube, syringe for cleaning (if it clogs)
>Attaches to included drinking pouch, standard disposable bottles (28 mm thread), hydration packs, or use the straw to drink directly from your water source
http://sawyer.com/products/sawyer-mini-filter/
I grew up in Louisiana and always had these at the ready in case another Katrina came by. Barebones and lightweight in case you need to get up and move.
Multitool - Something that's sturdy, offers plenty of options, but also is lightweight. If I got washed out, this would be one of the top things I'd want coming with me.
First Aid Kit - You just never know. Water can hide a lot of nasty stuff like sharp metal edges, broken glass, etc. The kit I've linked to also comes with a multitool.
Water Filtration System - Dehydration will get you before anything else. Southern heat combined with physical exertion takes a lot out of anyone and tiny filtration systems like this will take care of you without adding bulk.
Meal Replacement Bars - You'll ideally want a few days emergency food. I recommend meal replacement bars that are high in protein and fiber and no less than 500 calories. They'll provide decent nutrition and should make you feel satiated for at least 2-4 hours. I don't have a recommendation on this one because there are so many brands and flavors.
Hand Crank Lantern - A reliable source of light that you can crank on your own. Generally, I avoid using generators and the like. I'm paranoid about electricity after flooding occurs.
Whistle - Great for alerting people without tearing up your vocal chords. It's also very, very, very good to have in case animals that shouldn't come by are nearby.
Dust Mask - If your city floods, there's going to be a lot of crud that comes up from the sewers and a lot of things accumulating inside buildings. Save your lungs and your noses.
Portable Battery - I love this age of technology we're in. Charge this a few days before the storm hits and you'll be able to keep your phone charged for days if the power goes out.
Insect Repellant - The ample amount of still water after a hurricane is prime bug nesting. A little repellant goes a long way.
Paddle Your Own Canoe by Nick Offerman - Or any book really to help pass the time. This is a fantastic read though. :)
I thought you might like this a Mini Water Filter. Happy tax day
I remember reading that the Sawyer Filter is a much better product than the LifeStraw.
LifeStraw claims it can filter 1,000 liters. The Sawyer claims 100,000 gallons. Also the Sawyer filters protozoa much better (99.9999% vs 99.9%)
I have one of these filters and it serves me well if there is a water source on long rides http://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-Water-Filtration-System/dp/B00FHRADQ2
Sawyer Mini
If you know that you'll be going past a water source, like a river, you could always bring a portable water filter. Sawyer makes one that's pretty compact.
These are just suggestions, I'm sure there are cheaper or better quality alternatives to these, but it's a good start.
Also, you're a cool brother.
How are you going to get filtered water into your bladder? Or effectively get unfiltered water out of it? I do not think the lifestraw can be connected in line with a hose either.
I would look at something like the Sawyer Squeeze: better filtration, can filter more gallons (100,000), able to screw onto a bladder/bottle or use inline with hydration hose (connect between end of hose and mouthpiece).
Or Aqua Mira drops.
You may want to consider a Sawyer.
Sawyer Products SP101 Mini Water Filtration System, Single, Green https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MPH1M80/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_2geBzbDJWJJNB
Safe travels!
If only there was an affordable way to purify a lot of water from any source. Wait. Yes. There. Are. Several.
I've never heard of this thing. It has 3 different sizes listed for pore size in the product description. First is says: With the first layer of 0.2~0.01 Hollow Fiber UF Membrane, which means it is has 0.2 micron holes as well, but then later it says Filter to an amazing 0.1 microns. That being said, even the 0.2 size is good enough for bacteria and parasites.
I would spend a couple bucks and go with a Sawyer. Super light and the folks at ultralight and appalachian trail swear by them.
Thanks for the input, sorry if it is a bit unclear, I've edited it without the weight of the water.
Tarp is gone, along with 10m of para cord for putting it up with.
Picked up a new fleece with saves 300grams today (had No idea that it would save that much) and the trainers I'm replacing as well, definitely getting lighter one and I'll probably replace most the the clothes as well with lighter weight trekking ones.
This is the Eco straw which seems like it will do the job, apologises if Eco Straw was unclear.
The sponge / soap / cloth is all because of lessons from my last trip where we had to throw away a meal or two because we didn't properly clean our dishes so everything tasted soapy. The wire mess and tent pegs look something like this, I'm looking for a different wire mess than what I've got at the moment to bring down the weight some more, but the whole thing is on the ditch list if it isn't very useful.
The solar charger is also a battery bank, and I may ditch one of the camera lenses to save 600grams (fuck that thing is heavy)
Oh and a pot has gone as well.
I bet you could lose 0.5 oz by replacing the 2 connectors and the hose with just the Sawyer Products SP150 Coupling for Water Filtration Cleaning https://www.amazon.com/dp/B018NJC1A6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_s9vIDb1RH14A4
:-)
I would recommend upgrading to an Evernew 2L soft bottle. In my experience Platypus's leak. I would also recommend getting this little dude to make it a handsfree operation if you will be using a smartwater bottle.
Gear-wise- try your best to make use of stuff you already have. You don't need to get expensive name brand outdoor gear if you already have stuff that will work.
For a dayhike, I would recommend using a pack you already have like a school pack.
Food and water are important. Especially water. Depending on the route, you could just make sure to carry enough water the whole way, but that can get heavy. I would recommend buying cheap bottled water like Smartwater rather than a heavy nalgene bottle. If you'll be crossing streams along the way, I would recommend you get a Katadyn BeFree. It's a waterbottle that filters water you get from streams and makes it safe to drink. That way you only have to carry enough water to get to the next stream.
I would also recommend you bring a flashlight. If you, worst case scenario, end up being out there past dark, you want a way to continue hiking back to the car in the dark. This is my favorite but any flashlight will do.
Make sure to put sunscreen on at the trailhead and bring sun protection like a long sleeve shirt, maybe a hat. And bring enough layers to stay warm. A cotton t-shirt is okay but the rest of your clothes should be material made to dry quickly and keep you warm when wet like wool, nylon, fleece, etc.. Most of my hiking clothes are thrift-store or TJ Maxx finds. For a rain jacket, I just use $20 Frog Toggs from Walmart. It's light and does a great job. I like to hike in sneakers, so don't feel like you need hiking boots. I use [ankle gaiters](https://dirtygirlgaiters.com) to keep pebbles out of my shoes but that's not super important for starting out.
I would also recommend visiting /r/ultralight for gear inspiration. What I like about that sub is that they're good at focusing on the essentials of what you'll need without the distraction of frivolous camping gear like folding chairs, coffee makers, and camp showers. Once you get your essential gear then you can decide if you want to get the non-essential stuff too. A lot of their suggestions are also very cheap (contrary to popular belief). They have a link in the sidebar to a budget gear list for people just getting started.
You probably won't have to worry much about wildlife but it's always a good idea to research the area you're going to. I usually stop by the ranger station on my way to a hike and ask them if I should be aware of any bear problems or anything.
In terms of etiquette, as long as you leave things the way you found them and don't litter, stomp on plants, or cut down trees, you should be be fine. I hope that helps a little and that you have a fun time out there!
Welcome to camping! You could try and x-post this to r/campingandhiking if you haven't yet, to get more feedback.
I think the biggest paperweights you've got on that list are in the tools section: You don't need a leatherman, it's expensive, and there's not much use for pliers or philips screwdrivers in the outdoors. A knife is very helpful, but you only need one, not 3 (4 if you count the knife in the fire kit).
You don't need that whole fire kit; I like how much you're planning for emergencies, but you could just buy some fireproof matches and make the rest of the kit yourself. (the cord saws are hard to work with and tend to break).
You also have 4 different lights listed, headlamp is more useful than a flashlight you have to hold, lantern could be useful, but an inflatable one would shave some weight. Do you need the keychain light?
Cans are heavy to hike with, if you can buy similar food in pouch form, you can use your knife to open your food and don't need the can opener.
Is the shovel for poop holes? A lot of people use this thing, which is a lot lighter than the folding shovel.
I don't know if Bear spray is necessary, but you should have a bear bag system with you, if only for the little bears (mice and other critters).
For water filtration, I have to recommend the katadyne BeFree because it is super fast. I'd try and buy a second bag for it, since they sometimes delaminate. Either way, I'd recommend trying out your system at home, so you know if you like it before you're depending on it.
No my came with a cap set that fits over nalgene and hydroflasks, and a smaller cap that fits in klean kanteens. I posted a link to it.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B074WJDZYK/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1521064915&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=lifestraw+universal&dpPl=1&dpID=41h26wg0VvL&ref=plSrch
For water, I would suggest going for filtering. There are some cheap filters you can get your hands on that. One of my favorites is Sawyer SP160 which I use for backpacking. Filter lasts for 100,000 gallons and replacement filters are only $20ish. Takes up much less space than storing water.
For food, are we talking #10 cans? You could look into building a rotating can rack for the appropriate can size. Googling found a pinterest board with several links to different styles you could make.
Honestly I have a preference to be even cheaper and seemingly better storage space usage if you are going with bulk food items. Getting bulk rice or bean bags and then putting them into food safe buckets if you can source them cheap (if you know people who work at food plants, for example a Nestle factory that I get mine from).
Hint you can get bulk food items from an LDS Storehouse (Latter Day Saints prepping is part of their religion) for a really good price. Bonus is that they let anyone buy even if you aren't a LDS.
A month is easy. For less than $100 you can get a good water filter and bucket of nonpersishable food
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But if you are really preparing for collapse, you need to plan for the long haul. Two years supply of food, start gardening, figure out plans for heating and cooking fuel.
This one https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B06XZVBSMX/ref=sspa_mw_detail_5?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Never had a moment trouble
In Sweden if you save up hit the Hairy Pig restaurant. Best meal I’ve had in maybe 10 years! Worth paying for. Also I just got back from
Many of the location you mentioned. We took power bars but saved a ton on water by bringing nagal bottles and lifestraw water filters! We got the adapter kits with straw for $15 at Walmart and bottles for $6 off amazon (32oz bottle). We filled up from bathroom sinks, outdoor water fountains etc! Saved us a ton on bottled water and was healthier then the bottled stuff. Definitely do that it will save you a ton on europe
LifeStraw Universal Water Filter Bottle Adapter Kit Fits Select Bottles from Hydroflask, Camelbak, Kleen Kanteen, Nalgene and More https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074WJDZYK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_7SfzDbQ406G95
Ahh, ok. I'm not aware of a bottle that the BeFree screws into outside of the Hydrapak (they also make the collapsible one that it comes with). On the JMT last year I just filled up the 2L seeker, filtered 1L into a Smart Water bottle which takes all of 20 sec, then left the 1L in the Seeker until I needed to refill the SW. The BeFree really does filter fast if you only want to use the .6L or 1L container that it comes with and filter into your existing SW/evernew.
Otherwise, it's heavier but Lifestraw has a universal adapter that you may be able to customize for your needs.
I have a camelbak steel body with lifestraw mouth piece. It come with two different mouth piece to fit most.
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B074WJDZYK?psc=1&ref=yo_pop_mb_pd_title
Katadyn Pocket Water Microfilter
http://www.amazon.com/Katadyn-8013618-Pocket-Water-Microfilter/dp/B0007U00YE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1345068689&sr=8-1&keywords=Katadyn+Pocket+Water+Filter
I think this is the best there is in the market. It's not quite compact and is a bit pricy but its built to last and the reviews on it are great.
Is there a filtered water bottle you can recommend for me? I was reading reviews of cheap ones, and people were claiming you can't use them for water in the wild- just for basic tap water filtering. My research took me to a $280 water bottle, if you really want to purify water. I really would rather spend much less. What is your opinion?
One of my personal concerns about a society collapse is that I drink about 2.5 gallons of water per day. It makes it tough for me to be any kind of survivalist with that handicap.
I have also done the Na Pali Coast trail. Spent 7 days in the valley with 15 of my best friends. One of the best weeks of my life. The trail is not easy. We did it all in one day. Maybe like 5-6 hours of hiking. Depending on the fitness of your group it can take considerably longer to finish. Some people camp at campsites along the trail.
I would be seriously concerned about a dog on the trail at certain points because of how narrow it gets at points all their general unpredictability. Especially if you to have them on a leash.
If you're really worried about weight you can ask/hire someone to kayak stuff in for you.
The best piece of equipment we had was a hanging water filter, I think this was the one:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0007U0148/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1SMJNN6CS2RW1&coliid=I1ZWUTY8R65P3O&psc=1
You may not need it, depending on the size of your group but with 15 pumping water was just going to be a pain in the ass.
Please feel free to PM with any questions, would love to help.
This is also just over $100, but it is awesome for camping. Never worry about your water again.
This is a slightly cheaper, more physical way to purify water in the woods.
EDIT: Filters kind of ruin the BIFL philosophy, unless you're looking at the possibility of it saving your life in woods.
My friend had that Katadyn water filter -- it was compact but once the pump action got harder it was very incovenient, you don't have a huge range of motion so my hand would cramp up if pumping a lot.
I have the MSR MiniWorks EX Microfilter, which looks very similar to the Sweetwater. I have been very pleased with it, especially since you can just screw it onto a nalgene.
Buy a .22 LR rifle, for hunting and longer range zombie sniping, preferably something light and portable like a henry AR-7, and a handgun, preferably reliable and durable with a common caliber, like a 9mm Glock. As much ammo as you can comfortably carry along with your other supplies. As far as supplies, I would carry basic fire starting equipment, such as a lighter or waterproof matches, or if you want to get fancy a magnesium fire starter. I would carry as many power bars as possible for food, they have a lot of calories for their size and weight. I would get a water purification pump, because making fresh water will be the hardest challenge. The UV pens will run out of batteries, and you will eventually run out of iodine pills, but something like this is field maintainable and will last nearly forever, and can produce a large supply of water.
Also a good plan is basic first aid supplies, including pain killers, disinfectant, bandages, etc. I would also include some quik clot, they sell it at REI and other sporting stores, it is good for gunshot wounds or other wide open and seriously bleeding wounds.
Tools - wrenches, sockets, vice grips.
For a more complete check list see this guy's [packing list] (http://www.backcountrydiscoveryroutes.com/WABDR-Packing-List)
So when it comes to keeping it under $500, don't sounds so blue as $500 can get you a longs ways if you shop around.
I bring this and 2 Nalgene bottles with me when I hike in the Sierras. Worth every penny. You can get fresh drinking water from any river or stream.
https://www.amazon.com/MSR-56425-MiniWorks-EX-Microfilter/dp/B000BBF2RY/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1504405572&sr=8-5&keywords=water+filter+pump
If you want a real cheap gravity filter that you can put together with a couple of buckets, check out Monolithic:
http://www.monolithic.org/water-filters
You can get white food-grade buckets at Lowes here in Albany for under $5. That's a LOT less than buying online.
Or if you want to get a more pre-made (but also more expensive) solution, the Katadyn Gravidyn is very nice:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0007U011G/
One tip on the Gravidyn filters - don't drop them! I did with one, and they are very fragile. Boom, $60 down the drain. :P
Also for water you might look at the hiking filters, for example I really like the MSR Miniworks:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BBF2RY/
I like carbon-based ceramic filters, over the new-fangled nanotube ones, because activated carbon not only removes many chemicals, but it also improves the taste of the water.
Hmmm....
I would also argue those water clarification tablets. I used them once while on a long hike and boy did they give me the shits. It looked so much like curry it could've fooled an Indian. Not to mention it makes the water taste like shit. I would recommend some lifestraws or something like this and a few of its filters.
I use this one in line with my water bladder. It works great, I just fill my bladder with dirty water and drink.
I use my Sawyer 3-way on hydro packs all the time. I spliced it into the tubing and use Sawyer's quick disconnects that came with the filter.
I wouldn't overthink the fire starter. A couple cheap lighters and a magnesium fire starter combined with the tinder options below should cover just about any situation. Total cost $7. You can also check out /r/edcexchange & /r/knife_swap for a decent fixed blade.
For the price, these are hard to beat. https://www.amazon.com/Glock-Field-Knife-Fixed-Battlefield/dp/B01DOOWT3O
Hell, I'll send you a good Kabar for $45.
Water
https://www.amazon.com/Katadyn-8018270-Hiker-Microfilter/dp/B0047QV0AM
Everything except the flashlight for $100
Yeah it is a long drive, but just get up early and drive out there, takes a couple hours, and trust me, it's worth it. In Ocala, you can hike all day, then setup camp, and then walk over and go swimming in a spring, two nights in a row. But you need to either hike with a partner and self shuttle, or pay someone to drop you off on the other end of the trail. But definitely you want some easier overnights under your belt. I think Hillsborough and Starkey would be good shakedown hikes.
Edit: alcohol is cheaper, and since you're student, if you want advice on making an alcohol stove, you can start here: http://andrewskurka.com/2011/how-to-make-a-fancy-feast-alcohol-stove/
I just got one of these and it's pretty awesome. I generally carry Aquamira as a backup.
I'm not terribly concerned about Crypto, depending on the water source. I do treat all water, because I don't trust other hikers not to shit near it. How I treat it depends on where I am: Sierra? I'm generally OK with chemicals and maybe a bandanna. One of my local spots with free-range cattle nearby? I'll filter even the best looking water. With the new filter being so light and fast I might just use it all the time. No wait time is nice.
If you're really concerned you could get this for $30.
The life straw and aquamira are both good choices. However I found that the life straw was overly bulky and large for the job it completes. Also I had two of the aquamira carbon elements break on me. My suggestion is to go with the sawyer mini - http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00FA2RLX2/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1417445721&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX200_QL40
Or the sawyer squeeze- http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005EHPVQW/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1417445858&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SY200_QL40
(Sorry I don't know how to condense these links.)
If you look at their weight vs. Filtering capacity it's almost unbelievable. They weigh just ounces and it's something like 100,000 gallons for the mini and 1,000,000 gallons for the squeeze. Plus walmart sells these so they are never to far away. Best $20 I ever spent!
I think there are a couple of questions you should ask yourself first.
If you are using the Sawyer Squeeze, you could use something like 3L CNOC bags (the thread on top matches the Squeeze, unlike other bags), and the 3L CNOC bag is 3.7oz each ($23 https://www.amazon.com/Cnoc-Outdoors-Vecto-Container-Orange/dp/B07F1BBWHC). Good lightweight construction. If you plan to use Aquatabs, Aquamira, or bleach, you could use something even more lightweight like the Platypus 2L bags at 1.3oz each ($9 https://www.amazon.com/Platypus-2-Liter-Ultralight-Collapsible-Bottle/dp/B000J2KEGY/). Those do not match the Squeeze threads, but if you're not using Squeeze anyway it wouldn't matter. Both the CNOC and Platypus bags roll down to nothing when empty, and are easy to travel with. You could carry 2 of the CNOC or Platypus bags + 2 1L Smartwater bottles (again, the threading on these matches Sawyer Squeeze) for a total of 6-8oz, without using that much space, and without costing that much money. Just remember that water itself is pretty heavy, which is why most people try to camel up and drink a lot at water stops, and then not have to carry as much all day.
Here's the Amazon link . I am also in Toronto, and bought this in April. It arrived fairly quickly, and has no import duties. It says it comes with one pouch, but mine came with two bags, and the hanging pouch and adapter/tube for gravity filtering. I wasn't expecting that! I may have lucked out, or it's listed incorrectly. It was cheaper than buying it in store in the States, with the exchange rate.
Your pack is going to have weight or you're going to suffer. In the Army, as a Medic I carried standard load: Body armor, helmet, 240 rounds of 5.56, M4, 9mm with 4 mags of ammo, and a 30 lb Aid Bag.
I know you won't be using all that stuff, but a 30lb pack isn't that heavy. You should be wearing some of the stuff you need.
Water: I strongly invest in two items. A Camelbak with at least a 3 liter bladder and a Sawyer Mini Filtration kit:
https://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-SP128-Filtration-System/dp/B00FA2RLX2/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1466464554&sr=1-1&keywords=sawyer+mini+water+filter
6 within a mile? It's short sighted if you're going to stay in the area, but bugging out has the goal of getting to a further away safe location where you have your permanent setup. If you have no place to go, it's pointless in leaving unless where you live/are is more dangerous if you stay.
You'll need to learn many various ways to filter water you find. Some water cannot be cleaned, like stagnant water in ponds have higher amounts of germs in them. Moving water doesn't go bad; rivers and fast moving streams. However this water must still be purified, but has less chance of being infected. Any prepper needs to master water purification.
I suggest getting a map of the area you live; larger if your BoL can be found on the map. From there you can mark any water sources you find as well as paths from your house (Point A) to your BoL (Point B)
I stole the whole setup design from a friend, just a bladder and a filter.
https://www.amazon.com/Geigerrig-G2-070-0Z-p4-Hydration/dp/B00870DGDS
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FA2RLX2?psc=1
The pump adds air to a separate compartment to pressurize the water reservoir and lets you fill cups/pots with water straight from the mouthpiece, without it you would have to carry the extra Sawyer squeeze bag. Only thing I would change is using a bigger sawyer filter, this one flows pretty slow (maybe buy the geigerrig filter instead). The geigerrig is a really awesome piece of equipment though; super easy to fill and really durable.
Water Filter
http://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-SP128-Filtration-System/dp/B00FA2RLX2/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1395805266&sr=8-3&keywords=sawyer+squeeze
this would be an easy, cheap upgrade and would save some ounces.
70.4 ounces for the half dome? REI Specs it at 92. I have the same tent, but am looking at upgrading to the quarter dome 1 person. When someone else is with, I can split up the weight for the half dome.
As some one else recommended, lose one of your knifes. For how much they're used, I don't find multi tools worth while and just carry a small folding blade.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FA2RLX2/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=2CXXD1Y7Z7KMA&coliid=I3S0PSH4ATHBEB&psc=1
This isn't an Amazon affiliate link or anything, I used to work for them and I never figured that out, this is the best portable filter money can buy and it's $21. It removes almost all of the bacteria and protozoa from water- though it doesn't removes viruses or pharmaceuticals.
>High performance filter fits in the palm of your hand, weighs 2 ounces and filters up to 100,000 gallons (30 times more than comparable filters)
>Attaches to included drinking pouch, standard disposable water bottles, hydration packs, or use the straw to drink directly from your water source
>Removes 7 log (99.99999%) of all bacteria and 6 log (99.9999%) of all protozoa (Each filter is certified for absolute microns; that means there is no pore size larger than 0.1 in size. This makes it nearly impossible for harmful bacteria, protozoa, or cysts like E. coli, Giardia, Vibrio cholerae and Salmonella typhi (which cause Cholera and Typhoid) to pass through the Sawyer Mini filter.)
this site has some good bags for the cheap.
Your priorities sound like they should be shelter, water,food.
Pick a bug out location. Go out into the woods you mentioned and maybe set up a campsite for the weekend. Maybe go back to the same site next weekend and practice some bushcraft skills and make your site better, practice building fire, hunting, things you'll be doing in a SHTF situation.
You'll need a means to treat water. I think I'm gonna be ordering a sawyer mini in the near future after reading some good reviews. But boiling water should be fine as long as it hasn't been tainted by chemicals.
Food kind of depends on how long you plan on bugging out for.
These are just a few quick ideas to help get the brain storm going and just to kinda throwing them out there. Pick up a few survival books, maybe hook up with someone that knows wild edibles in your area.
how do you define pure water?
don't water bottles become reusable bottles after yo drink them down?
why cant my tap water be filtered?
question 8, what type of water filter? the ones from question 7 where i had to decide which of two styles i like?
i use one of these. make something better and cheaper and i'll use that. http://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-SP128-Filtration-System/dp/B00FA2RLX2/ref=sr_1_2?s=outdoor-recreation&ie=UTF8&qid=1412024242&sr=1-2&keywords=water+filter
I have the katadyn Vario and i've used the MSR Sweetwater EX. They are both good. My favorite now is the cheap ($20) Sawyer squeeze filter. I use it with a Platypus bag as a gravity filter. The Vario and MSR weigh too much and there is much more maintenance. The sawyer squeeze is very popular. You don't need the Platypus bag, you can use the sawyer squeeze by itself.
sawyer squeeze
platypus big zip
Firstly for the sleeping bag what temperatures are you looking at needing it for? also have you considered the possibility of a quilt?
How much water depends on the availability of it where you're hiking, but generally 2-4L as a start is usually good. For purification I bring a Sawyer Mini with a 2L bag and aquamira as a backup.
I prefer baby wipes as they can be used for other things but make sure you get biodegradable ones as well
My stove is a MSR Pocket Rocket but as a cheaper option [this] (http://www.amazon.com/Ultralight-Backpacking-Canister-Ignition-silvery/dp/B00ENDRORM/ref=sr_1_2?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1411302345&sr=1-2&keywords=msr+pocket+rocket) stove works well too. You also have the option of small alcohol stoves and other liquid fueled types.
It costs 37€ in Germany.... Wtf Amazon... :/
http://www.amazon.de/Sawyer-Wasserfilter-Wasseraufbereitung-Outdoor-Filter/dp/B00FA2RLX2/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1407264857&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=sawyermin
First Aid Kit - you might not need it ever, but you should always have it. All kits are different but there are fundamental items that should be carried, you can check out the NOLS Kits
and either buy one or for less, make your own that is custom to your needs and desires.
Tools - First, carry a knife that can cut decent size branches, again, you might not need it but its good to have. Second, I recommend getting a water filter such as a Sawyer mini or Katadyn Be Free as they are both lightweight and will probably decrease your pack weight if you hike near water. Third, Fire can be helpful in many situations but must be used carefully and with respect. If you live somewhere that allows it, a wood burning camp stove will be worth some warmth and also allow you to cook if you bring along a mess set. I personally use an MSR Pocket Rocket. As a day hiker, you might not use a stove often but it's not bad to have if you do longer hikes or are far from civilization so if that's the case, look into tablet stoves. generally, you should have a lighter or two just in case. You may also consider carrying a survival blanket just in case (as goes for most these objects).
The Front Pouch - So the idea behind having this pouch is to have things that you want quick access too on the trail, the most important of which is your map. Navigation is important when hiking so if you're not familiar with an area buy a map and bring a compass. I personally don't use a compass but I've learned how to navigate without one, however you should always have a map. You may also need to have a permit for some hiking areas and it's nice to have within reach, usually with your map. you may also like to have TP and a camp trowel in there so that it is not hard to find at the wrong moment. along with that, a trash bag of any kind should be carried. Finally, carry snacks in there so that you don't have to dig around to find them.
Summary - This is all advice from a Backpacker so there will be many things you don't need on every hike but could save your life if you get caught in a bad situation, many of the objects I recommend are the same. If I'm close to home or not going out too far on a day hike, I usually carry a Knife, Be Free Filter, Lighter/Stove (depending on mileage) an extra coat, and extra food, but each hike and hiker are different. You will eventually find a system that works well for you, but it's always good to carry things that make life on the trail easier and can get you through a night in the wild. With thought on my comment, you should also check out the Ten Essentials as they will almost always be worth their weight.
If you have any other questions feel free to ask!
I skimmed through your list, but am short on time. Some of my stuff overlaps with yours, but I'm a firm believer in redundancy. Shit gets lost or you loan it out or it gets up and walks away and then you have none. You'll notice it happens to us even when we're NOT in a natural disaster emergency situation.
I'm assuming your bug out bag is for more than 3 days. I hate the 3 day scenario.
I did CTRL-F. What I did not find was:
If you want to get by cheap, pare the list down to essentials.
You need water, food, good shoes/boots, and shelter and to keep it light. Everything else is periphery.
The cheapest and lightest way to carry water is to use an empty quart milk jug or two with a rope on it. It's not as good as a camel back style bladder, but it's more reliable in my experience for fractions of pennies on the dollar.
I recommend a Lifestraw or a Sawyer filter for water purification. They cost about 20 bucks and they're really effective. Not necessarily essential for short trips, but it does a lot for peace of mind and you never know when bad stuff will happen. They don't filter out heavy metals or dissolved materials (ie anything <.1 microns).
REI has a really good info primer on sleeping bags
I wouldn't worry about poles for overnight stuff at all. That's for like weeks of constant hiking or alpine stuff. They can be useful and are helpful, but they can be passed by most of the time.
I get by with a rubberized army poncho and a blanket instead of a tent and bag. It's good enough to keep the rain off and a bit of body heat in, but it's not ideal and it's time consuming. I got it at a yard sale for two bucks. But for one night, it's good enough. A rain fly or tent foot print, or plain tarp is also effective. There are some pretty legit one person backpacking tents out there for about 70-100 bucks, I'll probably get one next. Not sure which brands are good though.
For food, I'd do the mountain house meals and hoist my garbage high and away from camp after wards, preferably in an air tight bag of some kind when you haul it out.
Normally I prefer to do something like pilot bread, PB, dried fruit, a big bag of spinach for the first day or two, green beans, nuts, and maybe some quality sausages and cucumbers, but the convenience of the MRE style foods is often appealing. army steel canteen cups are good for boiling stuff in, but the canteens are kinda useless.
A lighter, some matches, and wet fire packets are great.
Get a mid grade belt knife, like a buck or a k-bar or similar. It's a whole nother can of worms to discuss however. Just be careful as some buck knives are made in china, the ones made in idaho are always marked american made on the packaging.
Silva makes a good compass, a good topographic map, a small 10ths scale ruler (or any cheap one) are a good idea. Know your pace count and hwo to use these tools effectively. Compasses are pretty useful in foul weather or unfamiliar places, but navigational things aren't really essential.
I'd get some biodegradable toilet paper and read this.
That's about all I can think of right now, there's probably more to say and think about. Good luck! Park jobs are a ton of fun! Wish I was going with.
Lifestraw is good, but for the same amount of money you can get a Sawyer mini filter. http://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-SP128-Filtration-System/dp/B00FA2RLX2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1412635189&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=sawyer+mini
It seems to be the go-to backpacking filter, has 100,000 gallon guarantee on it, and a smaller micron filter at .01. I agree with 12pieces though, a filter is a good way to go.
I've rarely had people stop in at my campsite, we usually hang a clothes line out front so they know the site is taken.
We've swung by on our boats if we saw people at a site we wanted and asked when they planned on leaving.
For water, i usually go with big groups. Boiling would be a paint.
We bring two of these: https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-5-Gallon-Collapsible-Water-Carrier/dp/B000088O9Y/
picked up a hose to filter it through: https://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-SP128-Filtration-System/dp/B00FA2RLX2
Then I just take the dirty 5 gallon bucket down to the water, fill it up, and then hang it from a tree and drain it into a clean water tote. The clean tote is used for filling nalgenes and such. Then if you just need a little water to brush your teeth grab it from the dirty bucket hose.
I dug through some photos and found a picture of my setup in the background.
http://imgur.com/a/jjFD2
as for the wind... Paddle slow, tie your gear into your canoe. We use Gear Ties by nite ize to secure most things.
I've paddled in some sketchy stuff.
Sawyer Mini water filter. 1 for $15.46, 2 for $29.47
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FA2RLX2/ref=twister_B06XVV54DF
I carry a Sawyer Mini Filter. Haven't had to use it, though.
First I see no rain protection. Even if you are wearing some, you should have a rain cover for your pack. A multitool is going to be far more useful than a big hunting knife. A Sawyer Mini Water Filter is far more versatile than a Lifestraw. Nothing beets Beef jerky and GORP for on the go food that is high in calories. The magnesium bar is great and all, but a mini Bic lighter is easy to use and almost as reliable. Carry both.
I would highly recommend looking at some gear lists over at /r/Ultralight. These are people who obsess over coming up with gear lists that they can spend weeks in the woods with but weigh next to nothing. Take their lists and add in a few items for those extra scenarios that worry you the most, and you'll have a good item list.
Here is the desktop version of your link
Just an FYI, I spend a LOT of time in the woods and put a lot of research into which leatherman to buy. Im so very happy I let a guy at Le Baron talk me into buying the Victorinox SwissTool RS. Its locking mechanism is way better IMO, the selection of tools is a little better, its got a much higher quality feel...all around just a way better product.
Does he spend time in the backcountry? Id highly recommend a Sawyer Mini. Pretty much the best filter you can buy. Can throw it right in line on a camel pack too. Super cool.
Every few weeks a post emerges somewhere on Reddit talking about this amazing innovation called the LifeStraw, and inevitably someone chimes in saying the Sawyer Mini is objectively better for the same amount of money.
This time, I'll be that guy.
http://www.amazon.ca/Sawyer-Products-SP128-Filtration-System/dp/B00FA2RLX2/ref=sr_1_1?s=sports&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1417660764&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=sawyer+mini
Awesome, I'd like to see it in action. I am looking at getting a Sawyer Mini for my trip.
So I want to think you’re going for “grey man” due to your backpack, but carrying around an AK might make you stand out a bit. You could try storing your rifle in one of those bags that come with folding chairs. It would help a little at least.
You have a lot of heavy stuff like people have already said. That backpack won’t hold up to much weight over distance. You shouldn’t ever cheap out on the one thing that holds all of your gear. I understand backpacks can get quite expensive, but it really is a must.
You should pack more cordage. That can be used for a million things.
Get you a smaller bottle of water and a water filter. (Sawyer Mini )
I’m sure everyone is talking about weight, so I won’t say much about that other than cans, pots, and pans are heavy.
I’d like to see what changes you make, so feel free to post again once you have updated it a bit! Good luck! Welcome to the club!
I'm newer to this, but have done a bunch of research and searched for deals, plus gone on several trips now, so I'll just throw out some options on a few things that have worked for me. Just my $0.02; take it for what it's worth.
Knife: I've have several Mora's. They get tons of recommendations. Plus they're small, light and capable. I've used them to split wood. The one with the firestarter in it is nice.
Water bottles: I use store-bought bottled-water ones. My Sawyer Mini water filter screws right onto them. Granted, that's not a useful option to put hot water in your Nalgene to warm your feet in your sleeping bag, so for cold weather that may not be a good option for you.
Light: Use a headlamp. Much lighter-weight and allows for hands-free.
Clothing: No cotton as others have said. Search for deals on Sierra Trading Post. Sign up for their emails. They'll send you 2-4 every day, but I've gotten a lot of nice stuff for low cost going that route. I put stuff in my cart I think I want, and STP will send you deals regularly. I click through the flyers and then look at the prices in my cart. When the stuff in my cart is a price I like, I buy the stuff then.
Do you want to cook with filtered water? If so, these systems are not great. I really like this Sawyer filter, it's very versatile.
I also like the Sawyer, it's ~$22.00 on Amazon. It's not the fastest filter, but it works pretty well.
Iodine is blegh. Takes a while to purify the water and leaves a taste.
instead get a
sawyer mini from amazon for 20 bucks.
Removes 99.99999% of all bacteria, up to 100,000 gallons.
Becker BK22 - This knife is a freakin beast. I've batoned 4in thick hardwood logs with this badboy with no problems and it still held its edge. And at 1/4 thick you could pry open a car door with it if needed.
Sawer Mini Water Filter
Mountain House Meals - Lightweight long storage and taste great.
Laplander Folding Saw
Good inexpensive water filter http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00FA2RLX2?pc_redir=1395985123&amp;robot_redir=1
For a first aid kit just build your own; a few band aids, bandage, neosporin, ibprofin, anti diarrhea
For a water purifier I would go with the sawyer water filter. You can filter water into any bottle you want or use it like a straw. http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00FA2RLX2/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1457621423&amp;sr=8-1&amp;pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&amp;keywords=sawyer
I have a straw filter in my bug out bag, but for home I keep this one around.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FA2RLX2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
I also have some water purification tablets.
I honestly haven't tried any of the freeze dried food yet, need to do that! Canned food rotation is good, but we don't really eat much canned food regularly, so doesn't work too great for us. We try to eat as much fresh / local produce & meats as possible.
It's actually a .1
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FA2RLX2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s02?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
High-Vis version of this kit.
I'm not a fan of the Knife+Ferrocerium rod combos. The Mora Survival one specifically is more expensive than the counterparts purchased separately. I prefer purpose built strikers because trying to exercise mechanical force using something other than the business end of something sharp and pointy sounds like a recipe for injury. Plus, if you lose your knife you're fucked because now you don't have a striker.
Get some:
Not pictured: the sharpener I keep with this kit. It's just a 6$ Arkansas stone I picked up at the local hardware store.
Get a cheap Sawyer water filter. I usually only take a 32oz bottle of water with me and take my mini water filter. You can get one for $20 on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-Water-Filtration-System/dp/B00FHRADQ2
I have a few of these. I keep one in my car, one in my motorcycle saddlebags, one in my hiking backpack. It's always the first thing I check for when packing my gear.
There's a bunch of different ways to use it, you can even use it as a straw and drink from a puddle in a muddy pothole in a dirt road. But mostly I fill the bag full of water from a stream and squeeze it out of the filter into my regular water bottle.
I got the cheaper one:
http://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-Water-Filtration-System/dp/B00FHRADQ2/ref=pd_sim_468_2?ie=UTF8&amp;dpID=51XhN0Nb-CL&amp;dpSrc=sims&amp;preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&amp;refRID=00YVJJ5S1FENCBG2QDW5
If you're not worried about viruses, this is a better option. If you are worried about viruses I'd get a Steripen in addition to that. With some iodine, bleach or aquamira as a backup for course.
Highly recommend the Sawyer Mini. It might not be the most efficient but it's crazy lightweight and get's the job done.
Based off my many years of backpacking, 70 pounds is way too heavy. Honestly, I would seriously try doing a 20 mile 2 day 1 night backpacking trip with that setup (replace the guns and ammo with water that weighs as much and you cant touch if you are backpacking in gun restricted areas). However, I'm 90% sure you will find that you're ditching your stuff left and right. Even when I am backpacking and sleeping out in 5 degree weather, my pack weight is only 25 pounds at max. I would look at the r/ultralight to learn what you really need.
Ways to lighten up your pack load:
-titanium pot
-alcohol stove instead of the butane/propane stoves (http://www.woodgaz-stove.com/starlyte-burner-with-lid.php)
-use a sawer mini (only $20 at 2 oz and filters 100,000 gallons) instead of a pump filter https://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-Water-Filtration-System/dp/B00FHRADQ2)
-Switch to a cuben fiber tarp and try tarp camping (https://www.hyperlitemountaingear.com/flat-tarp.html)
-if bugs are an issue you can get a net tent insert with the tarp http://www.yamamountaingear.com/bug-shelter-2p/)
-ditch the nalgene water bottle/stainless steel kleen canteen (you already have the titanium pot that weighs less, just use a platypus soft water bottle, they weigh less/can be rolled up for storage/can hold boiling water so you can put that in your sleeping back to stay warmer at night) (https://www.rei.com/product/849826/platypus-softbottle-water-bottle-34-fl-oz)
-switch to a hydrophobic treated down sleeping bag instead of a synthetic bag (https://www.rei.com/product/895819/marmot-hydrogen-down-sleeping-bag?cm_mmc=aff_AL-_-34947-_-46631-_-NA&amp;avad=46631_cdb0d0a3&amp;CA_6C15C=120217890002095893)
-Ditch the wilderness gps. Put your phone on airplane mode, turn on the gps, and use the app gaia gps. (https://www.gaiagps.com/)
If you can stay away from iodine tablets in the long run, especially for a 3 month trip, try to do so. Iodine tablets are okay to use for short periods of time, but can be extremely unhealthy and damaging to your kidneys and liver if used for too long. I would recommend the Sawyer Mini Water Filter. Sounds like an awesome trip though!
the sawyer mini is so much better than the life straw and it's less money. The sawyer is smaller, filters 10x smaller particulates, and has a lifetime much longer than the lifestraw (100,000 gallons).
if it's an urban area (i'm assuming because you said apartment its a city/town) your going to need to leave. and local streams won't be safe whatsoever possibly even after boiling if sewage systems are no longer functioning. not to mention the types of people you could find in control of a water source. best to leave to crown land and find a pond/stream. also lifestraws great but the sawyer http://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-Water-Filtration-System/dp/B00FHRADQ2 is my go to. i use both and one huge drawback i've found on the lifestraw is in the winter you can't get all the water out after use and the ice REALLY degrades the filter
If I'm going to be near water on a really long ride or hike, I'll throw my Sawyer Mini in my pack. Cheap, light, and you can fill a Camelbak through the drink tube by taking off the bite valve.
http://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-Water-Filtration-System/dp/B00FHRADQ2
Thanks.
Linkage.
http://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-Water-Filtration-System/dp/B00FHRADQ2
I use the Survivor Filter I prefer it over the Sawyer.
Link: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LA97I8M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_TqCqybSCCAFA1
this is a must have! https://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-SP103-Filtration-System/dp/B00MPH1LEU/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1466009311&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=sawyer+water+filter
First I'd make sure you both have all the clothing and footwear you need to be comfortable and the things you'd need for an urban day out (pack, water bottle, some snacks, etc.). Nothing ruins a day like an unexpected blister / rain shower that causes a chill / burned hand from a fire.
After that I'd consider basic survival needs and comforts that might be different in the woods. A small survival kit (and the knowledge required to use it), toilet paper, bug spray, gloves to protect your hands from heat and thorns, a tarp (which you already say you have) to escape the sun or rain, etc.. One suggestion I have that I don't see mentioned often is a lightweight foam kneeling pad. You can get them at the dollar stores in the gardening section usually and for the negligible weight and space they're worth having in my opinion. They are great for kneeling on (obviously), which you'll be doing a lot when practicing bushcraft skills like fire making, and they make a huge difference for the backside when sitting on ground / logs / rocks that are hard / wet / dirty.
With comfort and survival covered you can look at the real 'tools' of bushcraft. The most important thing, in my opinion, is a good knife for each of you. Soooo many projects / skills that are considered 'bushcraft' require / are made easier when you have a decent knife. You don't need to spend a lot (a Mora Companion is a great choice for under 10 dollars), just be sure to do your homework before spending money so you don't end up with something that looks cool but isn't practical for your bushcraft needs.
Beyond the knife I won't go into details about the rest of my suggestions but I think you'll find reasoning behind them fairly self-evident. I've been bushcrafting / camping / hunting for the better part of 2 decades now and all items I list below are all ones that I've personally used many, many times and wouldn't recommend if I didn't find them awesome and reliable. If you look into them further I think you'll find most / all are considered the best 'bang for your buck' option in their given class.
Mora Companion fixed blade knife - carbon or stainless doesn't matter, both are great: ~$12-15
Nalgene leak-proof water bottle - The cheaper HDPE bottle is actually better believe it or not: ~$5-8
Bahco Laplander folding saw - Silky saws are worth the upgrade price in my opinion but are definitely just a 'nice to have', considering Bahcos can't be beat for the price / function / reliability: ~$20-25
Sawyer Mini water filter - filters twice as good as the LifeStraw (0.1 vs 0.2 microns), lasts 10 times longer (100k vs 1k gallons), is much more versatile (you can screw the Sawyer onto a 2 litre coke bottle), and costs less to boot: ~$19
Fiskars X7 hatchet - I know you already have one bust I figured I'd mention it. For a bombproof, light weight, made in Finland hatchet it can't be beat for the price: ~$20-25
Tramontina 18" machete - great balance and blade, just sand or wrap the handle in some tape if yours isn't finished perfectly to avoid potential blisters (this is also where good gloves come in) - ~$15-18
You'll need a big backpack (around 70+ liters) in order to hold bear canisters. Considering you'll be out for around 4 days, I'd assume around 2 bear canisters would be sufficient.
Talk to rangers in the area about weather, routes, etc.- they know a lot more than you probably ever will about Yosemite.
I personally bring a lot of dried fruit and individual, home-made meals in a bag (see this website for some ideas).
Good luck! Be sure to take some means of water filtration (such as the sawyer mini), and don't be too ambitious in your first adventure.
https://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-SP103-Filtration-System/dp/B00MPH1LEU
buy one of these
and this https://www.amazon.com/Survival-Magnesium-Starter-Compass-Whistle/dp/B016UWWS2O/ref=sr_1_3?s=sporting-goods&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1503134173&amp;sr=1-3&amp;keywords=flint+and+steel
that should buy you about 30 days if you don't get murdered when shit hits the fan
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00MPH1LEU/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?qid=1463868196&amp;sr=8-7&amp;pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&amp;keywords=water+filter
I know you seem to have vetoed the life straw due to price, but I just wanted to say that I would absolutely recommend the sawyer mini water filter over the life straw, as it can be hooked to a bottle or bag to squeeze filter water into another container, where the lifestraw cannot.
this little stove is a pretty solid item. Does a great job, is portable, and can use multiple fuel sources (wood, alcohol, solid fuel tablets)
A long term storage heirloom seed package could be a neat idea, and isn't too pricey.
you can buy the refill bits for first aid boxes that generally come with a lot more stuff for a lot cheaper than the actual kits inside a pretty bag or box.
A cheap portable propane heater ?
I'm looking to buy
Cascade DesignsMSR SweetWater Microfilter, but this looks really good for how cheap it isIs Survivor Pro Filter a junk or a legit product for outdoor purpose?
Edit: flow rate is really low, but it has surprisingly high filter life span and really small pores.
Is this like MSR Guardian, aka virus filter, for dirt poor?
>I've only hiked to the base of subdome but I'm going to the top in 1 week.
I would suggest carrying a small water filter (this one is everywhere and cheap), and you can refresh off the Merced river and Sunrise Creek. Around here is probably your last stop for water, roughly 6 mile round trip from the top. Otherwise your last stop is the water fountains, which is a 12 mile round trip. You'll be get away with way less weight going up the Mist Trail and conserve your strength for the main event.
And you already know this if you've seen the cable queues from subdome, but get there early as you can manage. You'll have much better weather conditions and avoid the queue of tourists making the cables far more dangerous and far more aggravating. Personally I wouldn't depart later than 4 AM.
I got up there at 7:00, chilled and had breakfast and coffee for half an hour while watching the sunrise from subdome. On my way up, I actually ran into a couple people who were on their way down probably around 6:30. By the time I was on my way down around maybe 9:30, crowds were starting to gather and if I showed up later than 10 I'd probably skip the cables entirely (but that's only because I REALLY hate crowds).
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00TOX6UM6/ref=mp_s_a_1_1/145-0298543-3420436?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1504365684&amp;sr=8-1&amp;pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&amp;keywords=sawyer%2Bmini&amp;dpPl=1&amp;dpID=51ccU8hhfNL&amp;ref=plSrch&amp;th=1&amp;psc=1.
They are fabulous for camping! Not as great for chemical spills, but pretty handy if you can't boil or are out of iodine tablets and bleach.
https://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-SP150-Coupling-Filtration/dp/B018NJC1A6
Here is a product sawer makes that fits the squeeze & smart water bottles/evernew bags perfectly - http://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-SP150-Coupling-Filtration/dp/B018NJC1A6?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;redirect=true&amp;ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00
$2.50 part - no modifications needed, definitely worth the cost.
A battery pack to recharge the phone if it gets low?
Maybe replace the plunger with the coupling to backwash (this use to be $3.50 as an add on, so you can probably get it cheaper somewhere else)
https://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-SP150-Coupling-Filtration/dp/B018NJC1A6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1487096769&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=Sawyer+Products+Coupling
You don't need the full gravity kit. Get this $3 adapter (Sawyer Products SP150 Coupling for Water Filtration Cleaning https://www.amazon.com/dp/B018NJC1A6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_jGn9BbS8Z5S6C) and a CNOC Vecto for your dirty water bag. Use the hook at the wide end of the bag to hang it from a branch or use paracord to create a hang. Attach a water bottle or another bag on the clean end. Bam. Gravity system. I usually leave it hanging at camp while I'm cooking or setting up and I've got clean water by the time I'm done. You can also squeeze if you're really in a rush.
Like pretty much everyone else, Sawyer squeeze for filtration. I finally got a CNOC Vecto bag this year for it, and its a gamechanger. I've also got a cheap coupler so I can use my smartwater bottle to backflush it (the coupler also comes in handy for just hanging bag+filter+bottle and letting gravity do the work).
I'm a sidesleeper, and I'm usually cold - the NeoAir X-Lite is by far the warmest and most comfortable sleep pad I've ever had.
Stove-wise, I just use a tiny, folding 25g titanium screw-on FOME stove I bought on Amazon. I only use a 600ml titanium mug as a pot, so it doesn't take much fuel to bring water to a boil. This is my third year with that stove, and I absolutely love it.
This one. You screw it onto the clean end of the sawyer, then then onto the clean bottle. It also helps with backflushing.
Still comes with that giant ridiculous syringe that everyone throws away.
Sawyer should just concede, partner up with CNOC, and package their filter with the following accessories & call it a day:
If you go that route, consider also getting and using the Sawyer backflush collar (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018NJC1A6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1). This allows water bottle to be connected to "out" end of the filter. With filter threaded onto CNOC bladder, all you have to do is hold the bladder and roll the top to squeeze water into bottle. Wish I had had this during my last hike! Without it, you have to hold both the bladder and bottle.
Katadyn Befree
Sawyer makes water filters for camping that require zero electricity. You can use lake or river water. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XZVBSMX
They make smaller versions too.
Starter knife look at the Buck Nighthawk(you dont need the tops version.) Amazing knife well priced and near indestructible. The choice of steel also makes it fairly easy to sharpen.
The one thing Sukram 85 is missing is a water filter. All you need though is a cheap basic one like the life straw or the sawyer mini.
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I saw go with the sawyer. The price is similar but it will last way longer and can be used in line with a water bladder.
Don't use a plastic water bottle. Try and find one with made with steel(not aluminum) then you can boil water in it too in case you don't have your filter on you or the filter broke.
Might I suggest people check out this or a similar water filter for such emergencies. Could really be a lifesaver.
The [Sawyer Mini water filter] (http://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-SP128-Filtration-System/dp/B00FA2RLX2/) is smaller, can be screwed onto standard disposable plastic water bottles, and is capable of filtering far more water since you can reuse it. If you pick up a [stainless steel water bottle] (http://www.amazon.com/Klean-Kanteen-40oz-Classic-Loop/dp/B0093IRPSA/), you can boil water in it as well.
You should always have a backup when it's a survival situation; [Israeli water purification tablets] (http://www.amazon.com/Taharmayim-Israeli-Water-Purification-Tablets/dp/B0077TB65U/) will both look legit and be legit if she actually needs to use them.
There are always more items you might add to a first aid kit, but [this one is pretty well rounded] (http://www.amazon.com/Adventure-Medical-Kits-Weekender-Kit/dp/B000G7YIL4/). If you want a cheaper base kit (i.e if you want to add your own items), [this other kit] (http://www.amazon.com/Adventure-Medical-Kits-Tripper-First/dp/B0033B4I9C/) will also do the job.
Battery-free lights can be good, but AA batteries are common enough that a [good tactical light that takes AAs] (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006O4CELO) might be a more convenient option.
If she has a tablet (if tablet, go for the 12W) or E-reader (7W), [solar power might be an option] (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F3LPODY). With [rechargeable AA batteries] (http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-BK-3MCCA8BA-Pre-Charged-Rechargeable-Batteries/dp/B00JHKSN5I) and a [USB recharger] (http://www.amazon.com/SunJack-Battery-Charger-Ni-Mh-Batteries/dp/B00PZ6V99U/), the flashlight and any other AA device (like a [small, separate radio] (http://www.amazon.com/Sony-ICF-S10MK2-Pocket-Radio-Silver/dp/B00020S7XK)) could work indefinitely, as well as any regular USB-charged device.
[ResQme] (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000IE0F12/) may not be strictly zombie-related, but if you buckled up as per Rule #4, you may want a way to quickly exit your vehicle if your seatbelt jams and the windows and door won't open normally.
There are a lot of compasses out there, but [this one] (http://www.amazon.com/Suunto-SS012063013-A-10-Compass/dp/B000FEXZGW) is simple, reliable, and won't break easily. It's also designed to be laid over maps without getting in the way of reading them.
[Pocket chainsaw] (http://www.amazon.com/Chainmate-CM-24SSP-24-Inch-Survival-Pocket/dp/B0026OOS60). Won't be useful against zombies, but if you ever needed to cut a tree or thick branches and don't want to carry an axe...
...You can also carry a [hatchet] (http://www.amazon.com/Fiskars-78506935-X7-Hatchet-14-Inch/dp/B0002YTO7E/) instead. This one has a short blade, which will cut into their heads and not get stuck like others. It'll also do a fine job cutting smaller branches.
For non-zombie/woodwork related tasks, the [Victorinox Forester] (http://www.amazon.com/Victorinox-Swiss-Army-Grip-Series/dp/B003EH82TC/) has your bases covered.
You should also include World War Z (the book, and the movie if you'd prefer), I Am Legend (both the book and the film), and the Walking Dead series (TV, comics, and both seasons of the Telltale game series on Steam).
I go backpacking alot and I own/use this filter, http://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-SP128-Filtration-System/dp/B00FA2RLX2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1453530791&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=sawyer+mini+water+filter
would it be able to filter out lead?
not a bottle but... probably one of the smallest and best reusable filters out there.
http://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-SP128-Filtration-System/dp/B00FA2RLX2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1420235171&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=sawyer+mini+water+filter
The closest thing I used to a life straw is the "Soldier water filter". An ultra small membrane type filter built inside a real tiny hand pump.
While it worked incredibly well as a filter, as a pumping device it sucked. Took circa 30 minutes of minutia pumping while crouched by a water source to suck up a single liter of water.
To me those straw, look more like a last resort type of water filter for similar reasons. They probably work well as a filter but are rather tedious to use. They have a truly limited use scenario.
Also because of it's method of use you are likely not to be fully hydrated as you will likely not drink as much as actually needed for long hikes in hot weather, as it's designed to be only used at the water source. Water sources can be rather far apart. Good sucking skills are also required.
I have images in my head of sucking that straw until I turn blue with my face suspended a few inches above the lake or river bank attempting to suck water then sliding and falling into the water while simply attempting to have a drink.
I don't know about you but it seems likely to produce some rather comical photo opportunities for other hikers while simply attempting to get a drink.
I personally used the Katadyn 6L base camp water filter (The revised Version #2) and found it an amazing high speed device that allowed me to filter enough water to fill my 3L bladder and cook dinner and breakfast as well as provide water for other hikers with me. This each and every night at base camp. This in a mater of minutes. it filters really fast. An entire days supply only takes minutes.
Aside this I would perhaps consider the Sawyer squeeze filter, which is somewhat similar but designed for smaller quantities of water. You don't have to suck until you turn blue.
Simply fill bag and squeeze, Around a liter per squeeze bags and is about the size of a life straw while stored in your bag. This is the real economical yet highly functional solution. Small, compact. The only draw back is you have to do this multiple times a day. Other than that it's the perfect kit.
Katadyn and a few others make better hand pump type water filter that are more usable than what I had. However they are truly cost prohibitive and I personally cant see why pay this much makes sense for me.
In the end for me it's a gravity filter, less work, fast, more quantity per water pull from lakes and rivers and fast easy filtering. It is a real blessing to have ease of use, when tired and having to setup camp and prep food etc. I cant say a single bad thing about that filter, yet.
Albeit I have read some rather bad reviews on the same filter I use, but so far it's not my experience with them. Not a single issue ever...
Man, it must feel great to be that self righteous!
To bad it won’t last. This will give you 100,000 potable gallons for 20 bucks.
https://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-SP128-Filtration-System/dp/B00FA2RLX2/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1527296707&amp;sr=8-1-spons&amp;keywords=sawyer+squeeze+mini&amp;psc=1
Water purity concerns are for bacteria, viruses, protozoa, and chemicals/contaminants. In the past, I've used a Steripen with good results. It protects against the first three dangers. I recently bought one of these but haven't tried it yet:
http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FA2RLX2/ref=oh_details_o07_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
It only protects against bacteria and protozoa. If you're going to the Boundary Waters, I think that would be your primary concern. When I did my portaging trip there, we drank untreated water from the middle of lakes. Probably a baaad idea, but my point is that the water quality is generally pretty good there.
Related note for anyone that hates dealing with nasty tap water, I use one of these for hiking but you could easily take it on tour (it's the size of your palm) and always have safe and clean tasting water for $20.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FA2RLX2/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=B00FA2RLX2&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=cleve05e-20&amp;linkId=63MQIKRUTLVEUC52
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00FA2RLX2?pc_redir=1405213547&amp;robot_redir=1
Yes it is. One of the cheapest and also one of the highest filtration ratings on the market. The regular has like a 4 oz field weight. The mini is like 2-3 oz.
Thank you so much. Thank you taking your time to explain it to me.
I have this Sawyer. I think we might have drank some water from one of the lakes in Titans but we survived that without getting sick. We also mostly boiled it as it was really cold outside(October).
I'm definitely going to get the tablets for treating. It sounds it's good to have them in your pack.
Lastly, which USGS maps do you use? I just went to their website and I am kinda lost. I have been buying the National Geographic maps where ever I go. Are those good enough? Would they show mining sites?
Thanks again. I really appreciate you typing all of this. It's super helpful.
Sawyer water filter
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FA2RLX2/ref=abs_add_sc_?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
Have one in my kit and it has been extremely useful.
My wishlist for this year:
Future trips wishlist:
Stuff I bought this year:
I actually have a Green MSR Hubba Hubba with Gear Shed that I bought last year and only used for a handful of days last Summer - no wear N tear at all. I'm going to be selling it soon for a steal at $420CAD on Amazon.ca (would cost you $620CAD+ to buy new) if you are interested feel free to let me know. Here is what it looks like http://i.imgur.com/hSjfpZb.jpg except the gear shed vestibule expands more than that http://i.imgur.com/ePVtarF.jpg
When are you going to be here? I can loan you a water filter or if you have enough time, you should get this one https://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-Water-Filtration-System/dp/B00FHRADQ2
Amazon.com : Sawyer Products Mini Water Filtration System ...
I day hike quite a bit and I've been backpacking for years.
For a long day hike I carry:
Water
Food(high protein/low weight)
Flashlight
Lighter
First Aid
Hat
Sunscreen
Weather protection(warm jacket/rain jacket depending)
Probably some other misc things I'm not thinking of.
Also with some modern water filters like this filtration is so cheap and lightweight that if you're hiking somewhere with good water sources(much of Colorado) carrying a filter only makes sense.
Backpacking is a bit more complicated of course. On top of the day hiking kit I carry:
Extra clothes/socks(you need less than you think, but don't skimp on the socks)
Tent/shelter
Sleeping pad
Backpack
some kind of pack cover/liner to keep your stuff dry
Stove/Pot
bowl/spoon
Camp food
I think that's most of it. Obviously there are more things you could bring, this list is a bit spartan so some luxury items might be nice.
The other big thing to think about is footwear. Everyone has strong opinions about what footwear is the best, but if I was starting out I would just pick up a nice pair of mid-height lightweight hiking boots, probably non-waterproof(for ventilation) from a good manufacturer(I swear by Merrell personally).
I have a pair of these that are great.
Nowadays I usually just wear lightweight hiking/running shoes that are really comfortable but don't offer a lot of protection. Just the other day I did a 15 mile day hike largely off trail at elevation in the Sierras with no problems. But I have strong ankles and tough feet so that may not be advisable for a beginner.
Hope that helps!
Very reliable, if you're looking to get one with longer use Id recommend the https://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-Water-Filtration-System/dp/B00FHRADQ2
inline - so I use mine with a camel back. I put dirty water in the camel back... and the filter is between my bag and my mouthpiece. saves time by just filling my camel back and walking away. usually have to buy these adaptors in addition to the mini, but not always so double check.
screw top - fits on top of most plastic bottles (water, soda, etc). Already included as a feature of most sawyer filters.
I suggest these methods because the bags that come with the sawyer filters can be problematic and why should you have to keep up with one extra thing.
Anyone know how the Sawyer compares to the Survivor Filter?
https://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-SP103-Filtration-System/dp/B00MPH1LEU
Civ here, gonna get an IR reflective flag patch like the one you have (I'm guessing). I thought you only get the reverse flag for the shoulder?
Also
Water, check
TQ, check
ammo, check,
pack, check.
and then depending on where you live, you may want some climbing equpment, like a descender or ascender and some rope.
do you have streams? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MPH1LEU/
I know this isn’t what you asked for, but in emergency situations, this is a much better solution unless you live in the desert: Sawyer Products SP103 Mini Water Filtration System, Single, Orange https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MPH1LEU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_W8qKzbF0AP2E3
You can get filters that will do thousands of gallons for just $20. No excuse to not have one.
I'll remember that for next time. I've already packed it all away, but I might drag it out and take some pics. My foot is pretty banged up so it'll be a minute. But Ill give you a short list :)
Pack: Osprey Exos 58
Sleeping Bag: Teton Sports Tracker
Tent: ALPS Mountaineering Lynx 1
Tarp: Ultimate Survival Hex tarp
Mess kit: Mess kit and Mug
Water Filtration: Sawyer Mini
Tools/Defense: Note: Normally I would only take one knife, but I wasn't sure which I would prefer as they're two quite different blades. Ka-Bar Becker BK2, Condor Bushlore, and Bear Spray
Stove: MSR PocketRocket
First Aid: I had the Adventure Medical Kits Day Tripper, and then added to that with Celox and an Israeli Bandage
Trekking Poles: Cascade Mountain Tech CF with Cork Grips
In addition I had a few little things in a small kit; Ferro rod, duct tape, trail blazes, chemical water purifiers in case my Sawyer failed, bug spray, a small thing of sunscreen (which I didn't end up needing as it was overcast), deodorant, TP, etc.
Was looking at these filters on Amazon and saw this one as a similar item: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00QFXGSIY/ref=psdc_3402141_t2_B00FM9OBQS
Any thoughts? Not nearly the same amount of gallons but claims to filter chemicals as well as .01 micron filter. Looks like additional filters are relatively cheap as well.
I personally have a Life Saver water bottle that I have used countless times in really gross conditions, like mosquito larvae in the water stagnate and didn't get sick. I also recently purchased a Survivor Filter PRO off Amazon. It is much much more portable HOWEVER I have not had a chance to try it in the same conditions as my Life Saver though it does state that it can also filter out a lot of heavy metals so I would imagine that would be desirable in a filter you want to use in a different country. https://www.amazon.com/Survivor-Filter-PRO-Cleanable-Attachable/dp/B00QFXGSIY/ref=sr_1_7?s=sporting-goods&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1525118583&amp;sr=1-7&amp;keywords=water+filter
Would you be interested in water purifying tablets? Pristine Tablets are available at Sportchek for 12$/50pc. Use one tablet per 1 litre. They have them elsewhere as well (Mountain Warehouse, Sail, outdoorsy stores), this is just a brand I’ve looked into before. I recommend a mini filtration system like Lifestraw as well. It’s only for individual use so you’ll have to grab one for each of you, but it’s totally worth it. Not to say you and hubs can’t take turns drinking if you’d rather buy one!
Have an awesome time!! 😊
Edit: I searched for a small water filter for two people and I can’t find one! I did find this though! it’s small and will take a while to filter, but it’s a small pump! 😊
Survivor Filter PRO – Virus and Heavy Metal Tested 0.01 Micron Portable Water Filter for Camping, Hiking and Emergency. 3 Stages - 2 Cleanable 100,000L UF Membranes and a Carbon Filter. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00QFXGSIY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_.k5TBbX17H8ZD
Or just get a water filter so you don't have to carry large amounts of water? Both are a good idea really.
50$ right now: Survivor Filter PRO-LE
> 0.01 Micron
>Tests show Removal of - 99.9% Virus, Staph and Bacteria and Reduction of Heavy Metals - 99.5% of Mercury and 93% Lead - surpassing EPA standards for water filters.
If you end up buying and traveling with this unit, would love to have an update on it's performance.
Currently? Nowhere, but I'm intending to pack across Europe and just don't want to risk it in general. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00QFXGSIY/ref=mp_s_a_1_8?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1520981704&amp;sr=8-8&amp;pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&amp;keywords=water+filter+backpacking&amp;dpPl=1&amp;dpID=41zxTVah4gL&amp;ref=plSrch
I have a good eye :)
Apologies for the wall of text, but I tend to ramble on topics that I'm passionate about, hopefully some of the ramble below will help.
Which Inflatable pad do you have, I'm guessing you're a side or stomach sleeper like myself?
I have the Klymit kings static V inflatable pad, I like that it packs really small and it's very light weight, but it's not entirely comfortable for side sleeping or stomach sleeping. I did once camp with my tent on sand and this was comfortable, but on regular dirt it's not.
I then tried the REI camp bed 3.5 self inflating pad. It's a self inflating pad which is a hybrid between a foam and an inflatable. At 3.5" thick, it's incredibly comfortable for side & stomach sleeping, but the drawback is weight (~5lbs) and it does not pack down small, I have to strap it to the outside of my pack.
If you are a similar sleeper like myself, you may want to check out hammock camping. I picked up an ENO double nest for just relaxing around camp or in the back yard at home and found it to be the most comfortable naps I've taken outdoors. While I can't sleep on my stomach, side sleeping is very comfortable and I actually fall asleep on my back which is unheard of. I'm not saying to run out and buy a full hammock camping set up, but maybe at the next REI garage sale, see if there is a really cheap ENO double nest and straps and give it a try in the back yard, you may want to convert afterwards :)
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Headlamps? As in more than one? + a lantern? If I may suggest an alternative / weight savings..... This year I switched over to using a Olight S1 Mini baton because I always hike with a hat and the double clip allows it to slide right on the brim. It's also incredibly light weight and has several light levels. The back cap is also magnetic, so when tent camping, it sticks to the tent poles, for hammock camping I just hang it on the ridge line by the clip. The lowest level is 5 lumens I believe, which is dim but more than enough to see your foot placement on the trail at night. It also has the strobe setting which can come in handy if you find yourself in trouble to disorient an individual or an animal. (your post above mentions the fear of being a solo hiking woman, so this would be a good tool in conjunction with a decent knife). While it doesn't have a red filter, there are tons of youtube videos on how to make your own red filter cap for night vision savings.
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A Camelbak is always a must have for me, I get dehydrated quickly, so I carry the 3L version. I also carry a smart water bottle on the exterior side pocket of my atmos. Reason being is they are significantly lighter than a nalgene or other plastic bottles on the market and they're very very cheap to replace. Also, you can use this bottle for water enhancers such as Mio, crystal light, or a hydration powder, without risking an issue to your Camalbak. I've found having Mio on a trip is a great mental pick me up when it's hot and I'm tired.
I have not used a life straw, but for any overnight or distance trip, a must have for me is my Sawyer filter and 1 squeeze bag. I went with the Sawyer because it will allow me to refill the giant 3L Camelbak with this adapter without digging out the Camelbak, (see the 4th picture down). The squeeze bag is for dirty water only, so I do not have to worry about dirty water contamination with other items. Lastly, with this adapter I don't have to bring the syringe to clean it, this adapter's threads will fit the smart water bottle, or a coke bottle, and allow me to flush out the filter. While I've yet to have to flush it on a trip, it's a good thing to have for after the trip and cleaning things.
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I used to have a few must have items, but recently I've been weeding them out to save weight. Most of them are comfort items and I am the individual who packs with the mindset of "what if this happens.....", so I tend to pack things I rarely use. I really love having a warm meal, so my Jetboil is usually a staple. Since it is a gas burning stove, I could (in a survival situation) use it to boil water or start a fire to keep warm. However, foods can be re-hydrated with cold water, it might take longer and not be as delicious, but it saves the weight of the jetboil and I have the sawyer for clean water anyway, and a small bic lighter is a fraction of the weight, so I've done without it on the last few trips.
I've moved on to the mentality of packing items that are multi-purpose, try to cut out any redundancies to save weight. While I am no where near being considered ultralight, I've started incorporating their ideals into my packing to help out. You may want to check out their subreddit.
My buddy Scott is the one I always go to for questions related to backpacking/ hiking, he's been doing it far longer than I have, and seems to always be ahead on the new gear or techniques. He started a blog recently on his findings and tips/suggestions, it may be worth a look: Hack your pack
Hopefully this ramble helps!
It's this one: https://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-SP150-Coupling-Filtration/dp/B018NJC1A6/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1505259462&amp;sr=8-16&amp;keywords=sawyer+filter
It allows you to screw two bottles (or bags, or a combination) together. Assuming you don't have a bunch of air trapped in there, it will gravity filter at a slow but steady rate. I put some holes in my included Sawyer bags to make a makeshift Evernew/Platypus style bag. I would stop at a creek, fill the bag, connect the bottle, hang the bag, and gravity filter while I did other stuff.
I knew I forgot something I gave up on the bottle caps to backlash the filterm and found this guy also a hat. The jacket while awesome is definitely going to be replaced and I love my Montell versalite so Ill probably look at there stuff. Also didn't know about GG pack liner stuff. And I haven't thought about the Rvalue being low. My SO i's a cold sleeper for sure however but we haven't got her system down just yet but it will most likely include thermals for sleep and socks.
Edit: as for storms that tarps done awesome. Survived a storm at 9700 feet jus below paintbrus device in Grand Teton NP this summer, just have to pitch it right. And it ha's 12 tie outs but I admit I've not played to much with using less of them so it's a thought for sure!
I got the gallon Sawyer bag with the Sawyer mini and I’m surprised how much I like it. The gallon bag is bulkier to pack, but the handle makes it a lot easier to fill. The gravity fill system is pretty easy to use, if a little slow. I use Smart Water bottles for clean water while backpacking.
It’s an especially great system if you’re collecting water for multiple people, or setting up base camp for a couple days. The big bag means fewer trips to the creek!
lifestraws are dope.
get the lifestraw universal kit
https://www.amazon.com/LifeStraw-Universal-Adapter-Hydroflask-Camelbak/dp/B074WJDZYK/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1522185651&amp;sr=8-7&amp;keywords=lifestraw+go+water+bottle+with+filter
i also like the ketadyn filter as well....do a search for those on amazon or rei
here's the tourniquet I use in the field.
I have a lot of redundancy for water, but my favorite system is the katadyn pocket. It's pricy and one of the heavier items I carry at a pound and a half, but it's got a 20 year warranty and 50,000 liter filtration capacity (more if you take care of it).
For 20$ I might have to give the Sawyer Mini a try, but I would be hard pressed to rely on it the way I do with my Katadyn system.
I've actually made a point to start scoping out areas in town that I would go during certain events. Zombie apocalypse? I'd book it to the ferry with a supply of canned food, soil and vegetable seeds, along with a water purifier. I'd then drive to the middle of the lake and park it there. I can come back in for supplies as I need, but for the most part I'm parked in the middle of the water.
Military, I'm not 100% sure. I'd definitely want more people with me for the military than for zombies. Zombies I just want to survive and can camp pretty well untouched. The same plan wouldn't work as well for living people and I'd need to be able to be more mobile.
Anyone in Kingston, ON want to make a plan?
A 12" Stanley Wonderbar, Katadyn Base Camp, Kabar Straight Edge Knife, fire steel, Star Flash signal mirror, food, and other miscellaneous stuff.
I can't honestly give you one because I haven't used it. However, I think it would be ideal for what you're doing. Just top it off every time you see water. Check out the reviews on Amazon
I have this: http://www.amazon.com/Katadyn-Base-Camp-Water-Filter/dp/B0007U0148 It has great reviews. I like a lot, it packs up relatively small and you get a shitload of water
These filters are highly effective & super convenient. Go to REI or something and check them out
This. Katadyn Base Camp Water Filter. What's cool about it is that it uses gravity to filter the water. You fill it up, hang it from a tree, and then have the tube fill something up (bladder, bottles, canteen, etc.) while you go about other tasks. Excellent time/effort saver. I probably would avoid using it on stagnant water except in an emergency, but it wprked splendidly on all the lakes and creeks we found. Excellent product. Makes your life so much easier with no pumping or drops of purifier. Also, keeps that natural water taste as well.
I have a question about the Toledo water issue. Would you still be able to filter the tap water with a conventional backpacking filter such as the MSR Miniworks?
This thing literally saved my life once. I cannot recommend it enough.
MSR MiniWorks EX Microfilter Water Filter https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000BBF2RY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_97lXCb5H3H96M
i had snagged this for my BOB
MSR MiniWorks EX
and also
Nalgene 96Oz canteen
been pretty pleased with the ease of field cleaning, and quality of the filtering
Actually no sir, none of that is needed with something like this. (absolutely worth the money if you go on long wilderness trips)
Never use a cheap filter like Brita, unless you are going to boil and add tablets. Those kinds of filters are only changing the taste, not the safety of the water.
Ok.
I have one of these in the civilization's collapsing kit: https://www.amazon.com/Katadyn-Technology-Microfilter-Backpacking-Preparedness/dp/B000KUVVY4
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But maybe a couple of these https://www.amazon.com/LifeStraw-Personal-Water-Filter/dp/B072BC51LT/ for just in case.
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000KUVVY4/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1372532548&amp;sr=8-1&amp;pi=SL75
Here ya go! I assume he/she is referring to one of these. This one is awesome. Very light and compact. Turns even dirty water in to tasty drinkable water. The replaceable filter is good for around 600 liters, which for me is good for about 10 years. Easy to use and eliminates all dangers except for viruses, which generally are not a problem in North America.
You can buy chlorine tablets to add if you're concerned about viruses, but they make the water taste funny and are unnecessary IMO.
I use this Ketadyn filter and then this Steripen UV purifier if the water is from a lake. If taking water from a running river, then I don't usually steripen.
Katahdin microfilter. It is a pump filter and as long as you maintain it and run clean water after your trip you will have a quality filter for a long time.
https://www.amazon.com/Katadyn-8018273-Hiker-Pro-Microfilter/dp/B002CN82V2/ref=sr_1_1?s=boost&amp;srs=12034909011&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1495471794&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=katahdin+water+filter
Ooohhhh. I’m going to jump in here, and suggest what I use. I use a katadyn filter unit, it’s one you could probably grab from any outdoor rec place. I’m going to link to it on amazon, just so I know you know what I’m talking about. It has a micron filter, you could go to Mexico and find the dirtiest shittiest puddle their is, filter from it, and not get sick.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B002CN82V2/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1520439185&amp;sr=8-2&amp;pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&amp;keywords=katadyn+hiker+pro+water+microfilter&amp;dpPl=1&amp;dpID=41Ic1VVqN8L&amp;ref=plSrch
Day One I'll have about 35 lbs (15.45 kg) of weight. This is my first time so there are probably several items in there I'll never take with me again, but I'd like to try 'em out once; I also have a shit sleeping bag that desperately needs upgraded. If you want specs, just ask and I'll happily share my spreadsheet!
Edit: The List
The Gear
The Food
Sawyer in-line. Cannot sing the praises of this thing enough:
http://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Quick-Release-Inline-Water-Filter/dp/B0034VR8ES/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1346301982&amp;sr=8-3&amp;keywords=sawyer+water+purifier
Hey sorry to necro this, but do you need a hydration pack to use this? Going to be doing a lot of hiking next summer - I've always carried water in for most of my trips, as they're usually only a few days, but it's about time I convert to a filter I think. What is the flow rate with this? I was looking at the quick release version, seemed to get outstanding reviews: http://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Quick-Release-Inline-Water-Filter/dp/B0034VR8ES/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1349042010&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=sawyer+3-way
You can get a filter that has chemical filtration capability for as low as $50.
http://www.amazon.com/Katadyn-8018270-Hiker-Microfilter/dp/B0047QV0AM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1462453899&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=Hiker+Microfilter
.2Micron and less gallons than the life straw posted.
You should absolutely plan for your particular area. 38% of ground water wells in California have high levels of arsenic. Source. The increased levels of arsenic will not kill you out right but will cause a increased chance of things like cancer.
If money is a concern I suggest building your own filter. It's actually pretty easy and cheap. Cheaper than that mylar blanket actually. Here is a good article.
I use a Katadyn Hiker filter. Easy to use, no waiting for chemicals to work, long-lasting cartridge.
Here is the mobile version of your link
thanks for the reply!
I've been looking at the Sawyer PointOne Squeeze Though i've been seeing some having problems with their bags leaking for this model, but doesnt seem to be a major issue. It is though, a lot cheaper than the GravityWorks .. but i must agree, the look and ease of the gravityworks makes me want to spend the extra cash to get it.
Thank you. Its funny but I didn't really look at the size on the non personal ones because I assumed they'd be much bigger. I'm assuming that you're referring to this product, right?
Check here:
https://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-SP131-PointOne-Squeeze/dp/B005EHPVQW
Mini was also on sale at 14 dollars. But now it is 19.99 for orange model. If you wait and follow the product it would again fall to 14 bucks in Cyber Monday Week.
Per Amazon it has a 1 million gallon guarantee warranty. I don't see myself using 1 million gallons through it during MY lifetime... maybe I'm not hardcore enough :(
Heck even through Sawyer's website themselves, list it as having a 1 million gallon guarantee warranty.
As far as practicing for it, just go hiking somewhere local as much as possible.
As far as what to bring on the actual half dome hike, there are definitely some mandatory things:
Some optional things are:
Things to keep in mind regarding hiking anywhere:
An experienced hiker can look at the distance and elevation change, as well as the starting elevation of a hike, and immediately have a rough idea of how hard the hike will be for THEM. To build this skill, pay attention to the stats on the hikes you are doing. Also pay attention to how the weather affects your ability to hike. Extreme heat and cold both present challenges and require proper preparations.
Whenever traveling to a new place, take the time to read up on the regulations for that place, specifically regarding best Leave No Trace (LNT) practices for the area and about staying safe around the wildlife for that area- in general, never approach wildlife, but there are also things you can do to minimize having a negative encounter with an animal that you should be aware of- these best practices will often be different depending on where you are and what wildlife lives in that area.
Have you used something like this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005EHPVQW/ref=oh_details_o00_s02_i04?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1 I bought it but haven't used it yet. Aren't they very good with a great price?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005EHPVQW
This product comes up a lot, and almost every time someone says the sawer squeeze is better. I have the mini sawer, and it works great, screws into water bottles and 2-liters, can backflush to keep it clean, has a super small pore size, is lightweight. I've never used a life straw though, so maybe I'm missing something.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005EHPVQW/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1480094674&amp;sr=8-1&amp;pi=SY200_QL40&amp;keywords=sawyer+squeeze&amp;dpPl=1&amp;dpID=51SJ5lM%2BhyL&amp;ref=plSrch
Ok thanks! Do you mean this one? It comes with the option of personal system, all in one system, or hydration kit.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005EHPVQW/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1449757899&amp;sr=8-1&amp;pi=SY200_QL40&amp;keywords=sawyer+squeeze&amp;dpPl=1&amp;dpID=51SJ5lM+hyL&amp;ref=plSrch&amp;th=0
Sawyer Squeeze is only 20.69 right now.
LifeStraws are shit.
They should have gotten Sawyer filters. They come with a bag you can fill with water then you screw the filter into it and drink it. Much better.
https://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-SP129-Filtration-Squeezable/dp/B00B1OSU4W
So, I think you are a bit crazy on the water treatment. I know a bunch of people who don't treat their water at all - lighter pack weight, less things to keep track of, no hassle with getting water. Besides, drinking untreated water is how people lived for all of human history, minus the past hundred years. Millions of people still drink untreated water regularly, and while this is a significant cause of death in developing nations, in most developed nations (and developing nations if you have money) you will not die from a water borne illnesses as long as you reach definitive medical treatment withing a reasonable time frame.
That said, I do still treat my water. Sawyer filters are all the rage now. 1 million gallons guaranteed, and for $35. No laborious pumping, no scrubbing a ceramic filter when it clogs, no replacing filter cartridges. It also fits on the most universal bottle threading, so you don't even need to use the bag it comes with - you can screw it on a smart water bottle, a pepsi bottle, or even put it inline with the tube on a platypus bladder. Oh, and you can force water through any way you want: squeezing, sucking, or gravity. Only downside: you can't let it freeze, which also applies to ceramic filters.
Sorry if this sounds like an ad for Sawyer. I just like them a lot.
I can tell you that almost every thru-hiker (hiker who does >1,000 miles continuously in ~3-5 months) on the Appalachian Trail uses a Sawyer Squeeze filter ($30) for their water purification needs and they use it daily to purify water from back country sources like streams and creeks and it works reliably for thousands of gallons with some periodic backflushing (equipment provided). Most thru-hikers carry 2L of water or less (for weight) and just frequently refill at water sources they cross. During my section-hike, I carried a Sawyer Mini and had some issues with the gaskets separating from the unit, causing leaks of the dirty water but only onto the ground - you will know if dirty water has leaked to the clean water side. The hikers I encountered told me that this was less of an issue with the Sawyer Squeeze. Highly suggested. Scroll down on the linked page to read about the technology, filtration efficiency and limitations.
Still, two is one and one is none - so I also carried Aquamira liquid purification drops.
You will be happy i found a bargain of $33!
http://amzn.com/B00B1OSU4W
DUDE! These caps are the best! Get yourself a sawyer mini like this. They fit those caps perfectly! I think it’s the reason smartwater is dominating the premium water market. Because backpackers keep buying them up.
You do not have to spend a lot. Here are some suggestions that I choose to use even though I could spend the money on more expensive gear.
Pack: Rent until you decide you want to do this a lot and have already bought the rest of your gear
Tent: rent it for this trip if you don't already have one. If you do, it's best to split it up, poles and fly for you and tent for him or vice versa
Sleeping bags, bring them if you have them or rent
Stove: http://www.amazon.com/Ultralight-Backpacking-Canister-Ignition-silvery/dp/B00ENDRORM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1396264963&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=backpacking+stove Works just as well as the 50$ one.
Water filter: http://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-SP128-Filtration-System/dp/B00FA2RLX2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1396265006&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=sawyer+mini+water+filter cheap, durable, no moving parts to worry about and it's super light
Pot: A lot of people use this, but it might be a bit small for you depending on what kind of food you're going to cook but this works well for freezer bag meals http://www.amazon.com/Stanco-Non-Stick-Grease-Strainer-Black/dp/B000MVTIOQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1396265044&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=grease+can
Long Johns and other clothing: Walmart usually has decent options. Make sure that they are synthetic. You may find that you already have a few things if you look through your clothes at home. Depending how thick they are your snowboarding socks might make good hiking socks or if you have long underwear for snowboarding they would be useful camping.
What are you doing for shoes? Do not waste money on boots if you don't already have them. 90% of trails can be done in good running shoes and 95% of trails can be done in light hiking shoes.
Misc hints: For water bottles just re-use old gatorade bottles, those nalgenes are super heavy. Think about getting two hiking poles instead of just walking stick but this is a preference thing. Avoid cotton at all costs and have fun!
Try the Sawyer Mini! Its half the weight, and $21 on amazon.
+1 on the sawyer mini. It works like a champ.
BAM NIGGER. Couple extra canisters, you're set.
Promode: 55 gallon drum filled with pebbles down to progressively finer gravel down to sand. Run any water through that first, it takes out a lot of stuff and saves wear on the filter as listed above.
Ok for a good shoe look into trail running shoes. I recommend Solomon. You could always go old school and just boil your water or you could get a filter. http://www.amazon.com/Katadyn-Vario-Multi-Water-Microfilter/dp/B000KUVVY4/ref=sr_1_1?s=outdoor-recreation&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1332845095&amp;sr=1-1 I have one like this and it works dandy. For sleeping arangements go with a bivy. There are many different styles. Find one that works for the kind of camping you are doing. Also a simple tarp setup will work too. Use tyvec sheets you get at the hardware store. Light and cheep. Low cover is the key there. Stove. http://www.rei.com/product/785338/soto-od-1r-micro-regulator-stove I just picked up one of these bad boys up. I like it. small and pretty durable. Your pup will probably sleep with you. if you go the tent route it's a non issue. He will sleep in the tent with you. it's a win win. he feels the love and you get a little free body heat.
Must have items!!
http://www.amazon.com/Leatherman-830039-Multitool-Leather-Combination/dp/B0002H49BC
http://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-SP128-Filtration-System/dp/B00FA2RLX2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1419737405&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=sawyer+water+filter
http://www.amazon.com/Celox-Clotting-Granule-Applicator-Plunger/dp/B004NG8V1W/ref=pd_sim_indust_1?ie=UTF8&amp;refRID=0XX9NA73S1HE0KDKWJWB
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Not quite as amazing as a $22 piece of kit :/ stupid .au Amazon.
this is good too
Katadyn Pocket Water Filter
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Check this